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Black fingernail

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on: February 02, 2020, 02:22:21 pm
I have a pair of Mitas H02 tyres on my Bullet, they were fitted new in June last year, just before I got her.
I really don't feel all that confident in their performance, they are 350 x 19 and 300 x 19. I suppose they would be better on rough ground, going by the block tread and tough construction.
I am considering changing them for a pair of Avon roadriders, 100/90 x 19 and 90/90 x 19, are these the right size? has anyone any experience of them?
All opinions and suggestions welcome.

 
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Reply #1 on: February 02, 2020, 03:45:36 pm
Back in 2011 a Forum member in Germany with the handle "Maturin" cobbled together what looks like a fairly comprehensive list of the various rubber then available for Bullets. He hasn't posted to this Forum in many years, and his list may now be a bit out of date (for example, back then the Czech Mitas brand weren't even yet available in the USA, though nowadays they have a factory in Iowa), but it might still serve as a good jumping off point for scanning online reviews.

I'm sure other Bulleteers will be along directly with their own insights and preferences. I swapped my old Iron Cylinder's OEM Avon Speedmaster IIs for Dunlop K70s awhile back, and plan to stick with them. They certainly look the part, and have given me absolutely no cause for complaint handling or wear-wise, given my rather sedate riding style.

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Reply #2 on: February 02, 2020, 05:34:24 pm
Back in 2011 a Forum member in Germany with the handle "Maturin" cobbled together what looks like a fairly comprehensive list of the various rubber then available for Bullets. He hasn't posted to this Forum in many years, and his list may now be a bit out of date (for example, back then the Czech Mitas brand weren't even yet available in the USA, though nowadays they have a factory in Iowa), but it might still serve as a good jumping off point for scanning online reviews.

I'm sure other Bulleteers will be along directly with their own insights and preferences. I swapped my old Iron Cylinder's OEM Avon Speedmaster IIs for Dunlop K70s awhile back, and plan to stick with them. They certainly look the part, and have given me absolutely no cause for complaint handling or wear-wise, given my rather sedate riding style.

That is a very good thread, giving great food for thought. However, the old crossply tyres certainly look the part, but technology moves on, I know modern tread patterns look a bit 'tribal tattoo-ish' but around here the roads and lanes are worn out, the roundabouts are in fact polished, so modern compounds and modern weird tread patterns with radial construction, must be the way to go.
I have TT100's on my Benelli, they are very good but my mate out corners me with his honda, same size, same vintage, but he has the roadriders on. Yet these are maybe not for the Bullet.
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Reply #3 on: February 02, 2020, 07:42:56 pm
3.25x 19 Avon AM26 front (stick out for the exact size, lots of places will sell 90/90x19), 100/90x19 Avon AM26 rear. Sorted.

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Reply #4 on: February 02, 2020, 08:10:29 pm
Thanks Adrian, I have seen all sorts of conflicting advice regarding the size, I was under the impression a 325 x 19 was a cross ply, and a 90/90 x 19 was a radial, and they shouldn't be mixed.
Am I just being confused?
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Reply #5 on: February 02, 2020, 08:18:37 pm
That is a very good thread, giving great food for thought. However, the old crossply tyres certainly look the part, but technology moves on, I know modern tread patterns look a bit 'tribal tattoo-ish' but around here the roads and lanes are worn out, the roundabouts are in fact polished, so modern compounds and modern weird tread patterns with radial construction, must be the way to go.
I have TT100's on my Benelli, they are very good but my mate out corners me with his honda, same size, same vintage, but he has the roadriders on. Yet these are maybe not for the Bullet.
My head hurts.


I believe those Avon AM26 Roadriders are bias-ply not radials, but seem to be very highly regarded, with dogged grippiness, long wear and excellent tractability in the wet often mentioned by reviewers. I should think the last of the these characteristics might be a key selling point for one blazing around those slippy roundabouts yonder in "Old Blighty." If you search these Forums for past postings mentioning "Avon AM26", it seems many folks here concur. Our esteemed Bullet Brother "Solg" perhaps summed up the ancient Dunlop vs. Avon choice most succinctly when he wrote, "For a classic street bike look K70s. For more of a Rip Snorter go with the Avon AM26."

One thing that was repeatedly pointed out to me during my time over there in the '70s was the folly of mixing the two brands.

Addendum: The Venerable Adrian II posted whilst I was in a reverie. Considering the source, not unlike an infallible mediaeval Pope where Enfields are concerned, you can consider his advice as a canonical addendum to the Holy Book of the Service Manual.
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Reply #6 on: February 04, 2020, 01:33:23 pm
Good job I wasn't drinking anything when I read that!

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Reply #7 on: February 06, 2020, 02:28:27 am
Heidenau K34s look the part and feel great to me...stickier than the K70s.


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Reply #8 on: February 06, 2020, 01:45:25 pm
Good job I wasn't drinking anything when I read that!

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Reply #9 on: February 22, 2020, 07:35:30 pm
My Bullets are shod with Dunlop 3.50 x 19 K70's front & rear. My area has the typical Sierra-foothill twisty country tree-lined lanes, so expect leaves, sand, gravel, smatched squirrels, etc. on the pavement at all times. K70's are open enough to deal with dirt-like conditions, and speeds are usually 25-45. These seem to work fine on the occasional sections of 55-60 two-lane as well. Without serious attention to brake and suspension improvement, and with only 22 BHP (maybe) on tap, the Dunlops work well for me. The mild power allows for the K70's to function satisfactorily on the dirt fire roads too. Being both 3.50 x 19's, one tube covers all as well.


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Reply #10 on: February 23, 2020, 01:21:24 pm
Can't speak to application to Bullets in size but I have the Avon Roadriders on my Bonneville and am pleased with them. Pretty much THE tire recommended for the Hinckley twins.
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Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 02:35:58 pm
I's have to say the Dunlop K70's are the way to got, at least for me. The wear isn't the greatest for longevity but the grip is great for such a skinny tire. Plus it really is an all road tire, dirt or pavement it feels very solid and safe.


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Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 01:35:57 am
I had Roadriders on my 2012 C5, got my 2003 with Speedmasters on, but over the winter I decided to get a set of the highly regarded K70s. No regrets at all. These tires look good, and feel great.
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Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 07:49:03 pm
I have done a bit of research and discovered that these Mitas H02 tyres are aimed at sidecar use, in fact, Cossack Urals are mentioned more than once. No wonder they don't like being chucked about.
I have a pair of Avon Roadriders winging their way to me as I write this and will fit them asap.
So, if anyone needs a pair of hardly used Mitas H02 tyres, pm me.
Bearing in mind I'm in Devon, England.
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