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on: December 15, 2019, 07:44:18 pm
I am going to order these driving lights for my Interceptor.  They are a bit pricey.  Has anyone used them?
https://youtu.be/Mmvs18x3tSw
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Reply #1 on: January 04, 2020, 09:58:42 pm
Well, I sent the installation info to my RE dealer and they confirmed that installing them will not affect my warranty ... and that they can install them for me.
So today I went ahead and placed my order from Twisted Throttle.
It was $529.00 including the DataDim module so they will switch from high to low beam using my stock dimmer switch, and a pair of fork tube mounts.
Pretty pricey I have to admit. 
But I do a lot of riding on twisty mountain roads here in Idaho, and the last thing I need is to become one with a deer jumping out of the brush.
I already have an LED headlight, so with these it ought to be like daylight.
https://youtu.be/QiE944mX4xQ
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Reply #2 on: January 05, 2020, 02:12:39 am
Cool, post some photos and a review when you can.


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Reply #3 on: January 05, 2020, 12:31:33 pm

But I do a lot of riding on twisty mountain roads here in Idaho, and the last thing I need is to become one with a deer jumping out of the brush.
I already have an LED headlight, so with these it ought to be like daylight.
https://youtu.be/QiE944mX4xQ


          How much further ahead do you reckon you'll sight the deer over stock lighting? At speed it can happen really, really quickly.

           Good luck with these lights. There have been tremendous improvements over just a few short years ago when you were literally driving blind at night on a pitch black road.

           Of course, I suppose they're illegal here in the states because they're so damn good :o :o Wouldn't that be a surprise  ::)
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Reply #4 on: January 05, 2020, 09:07:31 pm
          How much further ahead do you reckon you'll sight the deer over stock lighting? At speed it can happen really, really quickly
Hopefully before the OH SHIT BANG DING OW moment.  :D
I have only had that happen once.  It was in my Olds 442 and it was a bull elk.  Came around a sharp corner and there he was.  He just stood there transfixed, broadside to me. I managed to get stopped with the hood of the car about one foot from going under his belly.
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Reply #5 on: January 11, 2020, 09:12:48 pm
Well, they got here, they have arrived.  I am very impressed!  They are VERY ruggedly built, and surprisingly heavy ... a testament to how rugged they are.  The fork tube mounts are extremely heavy-duty.  The module to coordinate high/low beam with my stock dimmer switch is back-ordered and I don't have that yet.

But I LOVE the lights and mounts and don't regret spending the money.

« Last Edit: January 11, 2020, 09:16:59 pm by jimku »
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Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 09:43:56 pm
How much power do they draw?   Whats the wattage rating?   Will the alternator handle the additional load, or will they draw down the battery?


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Reply #7 on: January 12, 2020, 01:29:37 am
How much power do they draw?   Whats the wattage rating?   Will the alternator handle the additional load, or will they draw down the battery?
They draw 6.6 amps.  I have an aftermarket LED headlight that draws a lot less than the stock halogen one did, so lots available just from that.  These Dinali D4 lights are used on many many bikes, so I doubt if there is any problem with running down batteries or overwhelming alternators, they are pretty much recognized as the best world-wide.  They are not rated in wattage, they are rated in Lumens and these are rated at 8,760 Lumens (4,380 per light).  All I know is that they are brighter than hell. https://youtu.be/QiE944mX4xQ
https://denalielectronics.com/collections/led-driving-lights/products/dnl-d4-050

My headlight is 3,200 Lumen and it is brighter than hell all by itself, at least three times brighter than stock and reaches WAY farther down the road.
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/220-2402/pathfinderled-7-classic-styling-led-headlight-chrome?mrkgcl=444&mrkgadid=3308569190&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=492101368761_product_type_motorcycles_product_type_lights_and_license_plates_product&utm_campaign=Google+Shopping++Generic+-+Lights+and+License+Plates&product_id=220-2402&utm_content=pla&adpos=1o4&creative=278867792822&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjwxYLoBRCxARIsAEf16-tlgkviycR8cnHPv13EkQHj9rBWYanGb9J1dP6o0V4YZ68AyfSS9tgaAkfyEALw_wcB


You might ask why I "need" these lights with that powerful headlight.  Because that headlight just punches a bright, narrow beam way out in front and these lights will provide a much wider spread of light.  These Dinali lights are nearly three times brighter than my LED headlight with all 8 LEDs going.  When on high beam their low beam LEDs remain on (unlike my headlight), and the Dinali low beam LEDs are diffused for a wide spread of light.

The nominal output of the Interceptor alternator is 18 amps at 3000rpms, so I ought to be good.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 03:50:19 pm by jimku »
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Reply #8 on: January 12, 2020, 07:59:05 am
80 to 90 watts.........6.6 amps x volts...use 12volts...or  13.8volts...or 14volts.....

Around 90 watts...


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They draw 6.6 amps.  I have an aftermarket LED headlight that draws a lot less than the stock halogen one did, so lots available just from that.  These Dinali D4 lights are used on many many bikes, so I doubt if there is any problem with running down batteries or overwhelming alternators, they are pretty much recognized as the best world-wide.  They are not rated in wattage, they are rated in Lumens and these are rated at 8,760 Lumens (4,380 per light).  All I know is that they are brighter than hell. https://youtu.be/QiE944mX4xQ
https://denalielectronics.com/collections/led-driving-lights/products/dnl-d4-050

My headlight is 3,200 Lumen and it is brighter than hell all by itself, at least three times brighter than stock and reaches WAY farther down the road.
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/220-2402/pathfinderled-7-classic-styling-led-headlight-chrome?mrkgcl=444&mrkgadid=3308569190&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=492101368761_product_type_motorcycles_product_type_lights_and_license_plates_product&utm_campaign=Google+Shopping++Generic+-+Lights+and+License+Plates&product_id=220-2402&utm_content=pla&adpos=1o4&creative=278867792822&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjwxYLoBRCxARIsAEf16-tlgkviycR8cnHPv13EkQHj9rBWYanGb9J1dP6o0V4YZ68AyfSS9tgaAkfyEALw_wcB



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Reply #9 on: January 12, 2020, 12:50:47 pm
So what the devil does that tell you when they aren't measured in Watts but Lumens?
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Reply #10 on: January 12, 2020, 07:50:15 pm



Compare lumens to watts

Lumen is the term used to describe the total amount of light emitted by a light source, while wattage merely indicates the amount of energy it uses. As lighting becomes more and more energy-efficient, the same number of lumens is being achieved with lower and lower wattages.


So the "strain" on the bike's electrical system is meaured by watts...(or amps x volts)

The actual "brightness" or amount of light projected by the bulb is measured in lumens.


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So what the devil does that tell you when they aren't measured in Watts but Lumens?


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Reply #11 on: January 12, 2020, 08:49:47 pm


Compare lumens to watts

Lumen is the term used to describe the total amount of light emitted by a light source, while wattage merely indicates the amount of energy it uses. As lighting becomes more and more energy-efficient, the same number of lumens is being achieved with lower and lower wattages.


So the "strain" on the bike's electrical system is meaured by watts...(or amps x volts)

The actual "brightness" or amount of light projected by the bulb is measured in lumens.


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Watt you say?  ;) Well said. If you buy LEDs for your house they say the actual wattage and the "equivalent". So a 10 watt draw puts out as much light as a 60 watt incandescent. Lumens are a bright way of rating them.


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Reply #12 on: January 12, 2020, 09:41:19 pm
Keep the advertising bullshit separate from the reality!

Led bulbs make more light for the same Watts...or you could say same the same light for less watts...Fluorescent bulbs also make more light for a given wattage...

But Led light is still weird to me...funny color of the light, and it does not project evenly....although they are getting better.

But 90 additional watts added to a small electrical system..I'd worry a bit....LED or filament bulb...90 watts is 90 watts...strain on the system.


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Watt you say?  ;) Well said. If you buy LEDs for your house they say the actual wattage and the "equivalent". So a 10 watt draw puts out as much light as a 60 watt incandescent. Lumens are a bright way of rating them.


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Reply #13 on: January 13, 2020, 01:14:11 am
Well, I'll stick with simply looking at amps. 
So I won't strain myself worrying about LED lights that draw 6.6 amps from an 18 amp alternator that puts out three times what the lights will draw
(or lghts that draw 79.2 watts from a 216 watt alternator). 

I'll let those who worry about the pedantic strain themselves worrying about the current loss from the switch and connectors and restance in the wires and color of the insulation and other things don't matter any more than a fart matters to a tornado.

Strain away!

 
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Reply #14 on: January 18, 2020, 04:44:34 am
I just received the back-ordered DataDim module that lets my stock hi/low switch also control the Dinali hi/low functions.  Yay Twisted Throttle!  ;D
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Reply #15 on: January 18, 2020, 04:37:47 pm
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Reply #16 on: January 18, 2020, 04:46:51 pm
Jimku - any issues getting this to fit in your bike? As with most sites, this one says "Sorry, it won't fit your Interceptor" but it looks pretty standard size/fit. Any sealing issues with our headlight bracket?
This light is totally plug and play.  It fits the headlight ring exactly the same as the stock headlight and plugs directly into the existing wire harness where the stock headlight was.

Sorry, don't have a better pic.
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Reply #17 on: January 18, 2020, 10:30:33 pm
This light is totally plug and play.  It fits the headlight ring exactly the same as the stock headlight and plugs directly into the existing wire harness where the stock headlight was.

Sorry, don't have a better pic.


Outstanding. Thanks.
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Reply #18 on: January 19, 2020, 03:41:48 pm
This light is totally plug and play.  It fits the headlight ring exactly the same as the stock headlight and plugs directly into the existing wire harness where the stock headlight was.

Sorry, don't have a better pic.


In the picture on this post, it looks as though your bike no longer has an O2 sensor.  A couple of questions, please.  Did you replace the entire system, not just the muffler?  How do you adjust for the missing O2 sensor?  Power Commander or similar?  Did you use the 'stock' map or dyno tune?  How do you like the result?  What kind of mileage are you experiencing?

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Reply #19 on: January 19, 2020, 06:25:59 pm
In the picture on this post, it looks as though your bike no longer has an O2 sensor.  A couple of questions, please.  Did you replace the entire system, not just the muffler?  How do you adjust for the missing O2 sensor?  Power Commander or similar?  Did you use the 'stock' map or dyno tune?  How do you like the result?  What kind of mileage are you experiencing?

Thanks, John
My bike has all of the original sensors.  I just put the slip-ons on, start the bike and let it run at idle for 15 minutes without blipping the throttle and let the ECU re-learn.  I am putting a Booster Plug and DNA filter on the bike next day or two and will just do the same thing.  I will never replace the stock pipes because they are just excellent with their double-wall, no-discoloration constructtion.  I took another look at the photo ... I put a pair of Freeway Blaster horns on it, which are black, and the horn is hiding the sensor from view.
https://www.amazon.com/FIAMM-72112-Freeway-Blaster-Note/dp/B000DINKPQ
https://www.amazon.com/FIAMM-72102-Freeway-Blaster-HIGH/dp/B000FKKOK6
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Reply #20 on: January 19, 2020, 07:23:06 pm
My bike has all of the original sensors.  I just put the slip-ons on, start the bike and let it run at idle for 15 minutes without blipping the throttle and let the ECU re-learn.  I am putting a Booster Plug and DNA filter on the bike next day or two and will just do the same thing.  I will never replace the stock pipes because they are just excellent with their double-wall, no-discoloration constructtion.  I took another look at the photo ... I put a pair of Freeway Blaster horns on it, which are black, and the horn is hiding the sensor from view.
https://www.amazon.com/FIAMM-72112-Freeway-Blaster-Note/dp/B000DINKPQ
https://www.amazon.com/FIAMM-72102-Freeway-Blaster-HIGH/dp/B000FKKOK6
 

OK.  Thanks.


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Reply #21 on: January 19, 2020, 07:52:41 pm
Have you turned on everything at the same time...lights, horn, etc....
At Idle?  Does stuff sort of dim down?

No blown fuses?

Have you checked the battery voltage at idle with everything turned on?

At cruise rpm probably all OK?

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Reply #22 on: January 19, 2020, 08:28:49 pm
Have you turned on everything at the same time...lights, horn, etc....
At Idle?  Does stuff sort of dim down?

No blown fuses?

Have you checked the battery voltage at idle with everything turned on?

At cruise rpm probably all OK?

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Everything works just fine.  Don't have to check the battery voltage to know that. 

The headlight dims ever so slightly when I honk the horn at idle, but I am not concerned about that because using the horn is so short in duration and done so infrequently.  I did try a couple of very looong horn blasts and no fuses blew and nothing got hot, so all is good.  These horns are LOUD ... no pitiful little "meep meep".

As for the Booster Plug, well, I haven't seen a single negative review of it in the 300 - 500 videos I have watched, and it is sold by Tec Bike Parts specifically for the Interceptor and I know they have done their own testing.  Good enough for me.
https://www.tecbikepartsusa.com/Fuel_Booster_Plug_for_RE650_p/re-bplug.htm
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Reply #23 on: February 18, 2020, 10:44:08 pm
Got my Dinali D4 driving lights mounted ... not wired up yet, but mounted.
https://youtu.be/QiE944mX4xQ
« Last Edit: February 18, 2020, 11:03:37 pm by jimku »
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Reply #24 on: February 21, 2020, 05:51:35 am
Got the wires neatly zip tied to the forks with chrome zip ties today and the switch mounted on the bars.
I m going to have my dealer wire them up so I won't bugger something up getting the tank on and off or screw something up tapping into the wrong wire for a switched source or some such.  That will have to wait until spring 'cause it is so cold here that dogs are sticking to fire hydrants and it is a 20 mile drive to my dealer.
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