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African Boy

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on: November 16, 2024, 12:49:48 pm
What size socket for removal of neutral switch .


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Reply #1 on: November 17, 2024, 02:22:54 pm
What size socket for removal of neutral switch .

   I don't remember, but isn't it easy enough to try a couple? Or is it that you don't have any sockets?

   Anyway. A hint: Undo the wire connection first or you'll twist the wire off.

   Then when you put it back in, attach the wire connection loosely so it will spin. Then tighten the switch. Then tighten the wire.

   The other thing one could do is put a bullet or bayonet connector in the wire while it's out. And don't forget the shrink tube.

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Reply #2 on: November 20, 2024, 11:54:23 am
 Removed the switch with a 17mm Tube spanner . The switch is working perfectly , checked my wiring all good . Can there be a fault in the gearbox ?


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Reply #3 on: November 20, 2024, 11:04:56 pm
It's not really a "switch", it's just an insulated contact, that comes in contact with a metal surface in the gearbox and in so doing, is grounded.   That means that, should that internal gear train surface build up a layer of crud, or oxidation, which appreciably changes the surface conductivity, the "switch" stops working.   At least, this was the situation on my 2012 Classic 500.


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Reply #4 on: November 21, 2024, 03:01:35 am
Can there be a fault in the gearbox ?

If you ground the switch to (-) earth the neutral light has to come on IF:
>the bulb is good
>the socket is good
>(+) is supplied to the neutral light socket
>intervening wiring is intact

Starter solenoid also grounds thru the neutral switch as well as clutch switch.
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Reply #5 on: November 25, 2024, 01:14:57 pm
 I found the fault was not the switch in fact it was the  gear cam plate position . When I bought the bike it had been changed into a Cafe Racer with the footpegs moved further back on the frame and  so the previous owner had in his wisdom had positioned the gear change leaver facing the back of the bike were it should face the front ! When I eventually  finished the bike and took it for a short ride I found that i could only change up one gear where in fact I was changing up into first and down was second gear . My only choice now is to have a Cafe Racer one up and four down . I don't know if that will work ? Any one else has had this issue ?


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Reply #6 on: November 25, 2024, 02:04:44 pm
Is your bike right foot gearchange? The pattern on a right foot change Bullet is up for first, down for second, third, fourth.
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Reply #7 on: November 25, 2024, 02:28:30 pm
One up and four down? Is your gearbox a 5 speed?
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Reply #8 on: November 26, 2024, 05:58:54 am
Thanks for the replies , it is a 5 speed left hand gear change . Obviously some Bullet have a 1 up 4 down . That is the only way it will work on my bike unless there is major surgery on the linkage .


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Reply #9 on: November 26, 2024, 12:34:40 pm
1 down and 4 up (with the gear lever facing forwards!), left foot change is standard on the 5-speed gearbox. The prototype 5-speed box was actually a right-foot shift, however, and right foot conversions are a quite a common thing. Hitchcocks' offered a right foot conversion which also swapped the change pattern over to i up and 4 down for up-graders who missed the Albion gear box 1 up and 3 down pattern.

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Reply #10 on: November 26, 2024, 05:35:35 pm
The component needed to change "one down, four up" to "one up, four down" is the cam plate in the gearbox.

According to Hitchcock's information from the old catalogue, if the "one up, four down" camplate is fitted the neutral light facility is lost.
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Reply #11 on: November 27, 2024, 06:37:00 am
1 down and 4 up (with the gear lever facing forwards!), left foot change is standard on the 5-speed gearbox. The prototype 5-speed box was actually a right-foot shift, however, and right foot conversions are a quite a common thing. Hitchcocks' offered a right foot conversion which also swapped the change pattern over to i up and 4 down for up-graders who missed the Albion gear box 1 up and 3 down pattern.

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Thanks Adrian ,  would the box work with one up four down as the gear change leaver can only face back ?


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Reply #12 on: November 27, 2024, 12:43:53 pm
Just reversing the gear lever from its normal position will give 1 up and 4 down. Why can't the lever go in its normal position? Have the normal footrests gone? The alternative could be a proper set of rear set controls for cafe racer use.

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