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Royal Enfield Motorcycles => Bullet with the UCE engine => Topic started by: JamesC5 on April 24, 2009, 08:12:22 pm

Title: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: JamesC5 on April 24, 2009, 08:12:22 pm
Hey All!

Sorry it's taken a while but I finally got to start riding the C5 this week!

Not only does she turn alot of heads parked up but on the road the throaty sound and classic looks get alot of attention. I seem to be stopped at least afew times a day by people asking about the bike, especially older chaps who remember owning Enfields in years gone by.

I'm no bike expert, going from a Honda I've noticed some quirks with the RE but it's part of the charm, and learning how a new bike ticks is part of the fun.

Perhaps if I had owned previous Enfields I could give a more specific breakdown on performance but I'll try to answer anyones questions as best I can.

I know a couple of people have asked to have a photo of me on the bike to show how the bike sits with weight on it and I'll get that done soon as I can, probably over the weekend.

Now for those in the know about the new UCEs, I have a question. Tonight I started to notice that sometimes while using the front break the petrol indicator lamp has been flashing up briefly. Previous to tonight I've not ridden at night on the C5 so I'm not sure if this is regular and I just didn't notice or if it's an indicator of a problem or a lose connector. Does anyone have any idea? It's also flashed up going down hill with the engine breaking.
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: Marrtyn on April 24, 2009, 08:56:55 pm
This may seem a bit of a daft response, but I assume that it is not running on or very near to reserve, this low fuel light comes on with about 3.5 litres of petrol left in the tank ( on the G5 DL). The hand book says not to run for long with the light on continuously.( don't know what happens if your miles from anywhere)
Regards Martyn
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: ace.cafe on April 24, 2009, 09:02:33 pm
My guess is that when braking, the fuel sloshes away from the fuel sensor, and causes the light to come on.
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: JamesC5 on April 24, 2009, 09:08:12 pm
I've thought about that, could be that the tanks got less juice and when I've been breaking tonight it's been on a hill (Devon England = HILLS) so I'm gonna go fill her up tomorrow and see if that remedies it.

Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: Bullet Bill on April 25, 2009, 01:47:00 am
I'm sure RE will fix this fuel indicator issue in time, but I'm a little confused.  Why didn't they stick with the usual reserve system?  If it isn't broken...
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: drooartz on April 25, 2009, 03:09:56 am
Can't use a reserve setup with fuel injection -- it's not good to run a fuel injected system out of fuel.
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: Bullet Bill on April 25, 2009, 07:34:11 am
My mistake, but I thought that somehow even Harley had managed to keep the reserve system.  Never noticed a fuel light on them.  Bah, but I'm ignorant.  Auto mechanics courses, here I come!
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: UK-Classics on April 25, 2009, 06:07:03 pm
Hopefully it will just be the reduced fuel sloshing around on those lovely hills you have down there!

How many miles have you on her now James?
The black C5 looks (& sounds) great out on the road - easily mistaken by most as an old bike at first glance.

Hows the running in period going?
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: drooartz on April 26, 2009, 06:18:30 pm
I could certainly be wrong, Bill, but that's what I've read/seen on fuel injected bikes. I might even just be that there is now a fuel pump instead of the gravity feed petcock.

I always reserve the right to be wrong. :)
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: Kevin Mahoney on April 27, 2009, 04:11:50 am
The fuel pump uses fuel to keep the pump cool, hence the low fuel light. When it comes on you have plenty of time to get petrol, just don't ignore it until you run out.
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: UK-Classics on May 07, 2009, 09:48:50 pm
James - how's the C5 going & how many miles on the clock?>

Having only had a brief test ride there seems to be some issues coming up in other forums about the light front wheel steering - I'm sure your only doing slow speeds but have you noticed any issues?
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: Rusty on May 07, 2009, 10:38:20 pm
Having only had a brief test ride there seems to be some issues coming up in other forums about the light front wheel steering

Interesting that, when I had a test ride I took it up to 70 briefly and the steering started to wobble, it was quite easy to induce at 60'ish. I put it down to road surface/me being a bit lardy and assumed that adjusting the rear shocks would help, didn't think much of it at the time.
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: UK-Classics on May 08, 2009, 08:16:59 am
Having only had a brief test ride there seems to be some issues coming up in other forums about the light front wheel steering

Interesting that, when I had a test ride I took it up to 70 briefly and the steering started to wobble, it was quite easy to induce at 60'ish. I put it down to road surface/me being a bit lardy and assumed that adjusting the rear shocks would help, didn't think much of it at the time.

Rusty - yes, v interesting. I thought you had the E5 rather than C5 - was it the C5 you were talking about that had the wobble? There have been no such issyes with the 19" wheeled electra framed EFI bikes.  A few different people on a number of forums have picked up on this after test rides at different locations. It seems strange if this is a common fault as the C5 bikes have been ragged round test tracks at higher speeds than this.

I guess it could be something simple such as tyre pressure or maybe even the choice of tyres fitted front & rear.  :-\ I guess there should be some answers coming up from dealers in the UK. (I was actually going for a better test ride this weekend & was looking forward to putting an order in - I'm sure if there is an issue it will be quickly sorted but I'll await an answer before splashing the cash)
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: JamesC5 on May 08, 2009, 10:06:42 am
Hey All!

Sorry for the lack of posts, been hectic as always. I'm slowly going through the break-in, but have not had the time for a nice long ride. Currently she's at 150 miles. Hopefully the weather will be decent this weekend so I can clock many more on the C5.

Thats interesting / worrying about the shake. The most I've had her up to is 45 as I've just been riding locally. Ride on the whole is getting better, but that could just be me getting more used to it.

I've been hearing some friction at slower speeds or while coasting with the clutch in, so I'm going to try lube, wouldn't think it would be necessary with so few miles but if it's not that then I'll have to take her 60+ miles to the dealer.

While at the BMAD bike show last weekend, Torre Motorcycles had a black C5 with the rear pillion pad, made me happy to just have nothing back there.

Edit:
Forgot to mention, the break light issue was solved with a trip to the petrol station! Even though I had a fair bit of petrol left I guess the placement of the sensor + hills caused it.
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: UK-Classics on May 08, 2009, 12:11:43 pm
Hey All!

Sorry for the lack of posts, been hectic as always. I'm slowly going through the break-in, but have not had the time for a nice long ride. Currently she's at 150 miles. Hopefully the weather will be decent this weekend so I can clock many more on the C5.

Thats interesting / worrying about the shake. The most I've had her up to is 45 as I've just been riding locally. Ride on the whole is getting better, but that could just be me getting more used to it.

I've been hearing some friction at slower speeds or while coasting with the clutch in, so I'm going to try lube, wouldn't think it would be necessary with so few miles but if it's not that then I'll have to take her 60+ miles to the dealer.

While at the BMAD bike show last weekend, Torre Motorcycles had a black C5 with the rear pillion pad, made me happy to just have nothing back there.

Edit:
Forgot to mention, the break light issue was solved with a trip to the petrol station! Even though I had a fair bit of petrol left I guess the placement of the sensor + hills caused

James - Good to get an update from you. Is your first dealer service at 300 miles?
It's a fairly long break in but I guess things will loosen up after about the first 1000 miles - the UCE engine comments have so far been very good from all those who have ridden the bike. It could be a number of simple things ref the friction - if it's not too bad I'm sure the dealer will sort it on your forthcomimg service.

The 'pillion add on' fits neatly onto the tubeler bracket hidden under your single seat. Its quite a neat idea but don't think the bike looks great without someone sitting on it.
keep us posted
cheers

Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: Rusty on May 08, 2009, 05:02:31 pm
Rusty - yes, v interesting. I thought you had the E5 rather than C5 - was it the C5 you were talking about that had the wobble?

Yes it was, I pick my red one up tomorrow. I’ve read a couple of reviews which have been very favourable so find it hard to believe that there would be major handling issues (TL1000S?), it did surprise me a bit though.

My bike won’t be seeing those speeds for a while yet.
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: UK-Classics on May 09, 2009, 08:03:16 am
Rusty - yes, v interesting. I thought you had the E5 rather than C5 - was it the C5 you were talking about that had the wobble?

Yes it was, I pick my red one up tomorrow. I’ve read a couple of reviews which have been very favourable so find it hard to believe that there would be major handling issues (TL1000S?), it did surprise me a bit though.

My bike won’t be seeing those speeds for a while yet.


I really don't think there are any major handling issues as we are informed the bike has been well tested. I think some people have picked up on the US 'cycleworld' review done on the test track in India.
This is a very positive overall review, he does say quote:

"…the steering is very light, with a little more twitch than you would expect from this type of motorcycle. At parking lot speeds, minimal bar input and care with your actions give the best results. In the 20-50 mph range – prime cow dodging velocity – the bullet is light and agile feeling. Above 50 mph and when you are cornering hard, the bars shimmy slightly, but in its intended mode of use, this bike handles well.”

Read the full article at www.cycleworld.com
Title: Re: C5 Impressions and question about gas light.
Post by: JamesC5 on May 09, 2009, 12:46:06 pm
Another issue I've noticed, which happened twice today, was changing from 3rd to 4th. I make the change, it seems to be all cool then I'm putting revs on as if the gears didn't actually engage, but I'm sure they did when I gear changed. I then need to clutch in and re-engage the gear.

Maybe it's me getting used to the gears on the C5 but the others seem to go through without issue, is there a difference for 3-4?

Probably another dealer issue. My first service is I believe 500miles, or between 300-500 IIRC, so Im only about halfway there though.