[Leofric]

The Falklands War was fought over fishing rights. This sounds worse.

The Falklands residents and British would say the Falklands war was fought to kick the Argentinians out because they had invaded British territory !

[AzCal Retred]

The billions in minerals & fisheries around the island drove the conflict. Nobody cared about a few square miles of sheep & bird dookey encrusted rocks. The Falklands have swapped owners a few times in the wayback when people were few and the ocean wasn't full of plastic.

Search Falkland on the forum for previous discussion and links.

[GlennF]

The idea that the Falkland war was fought over a handful of locals wanting to drink British beer down the pub is ludicrous.

It is like saying the gulf wars were fought over things like WMD rather than oil.

[Leofric]

The idea that the Falkland war was fought over a handful of locals wanting to drink British beer down the pub is ludicrous.

It is like saying the gulf wars were fought over things like WMD rather than oil.

Do you deny 'the Falklands war was fought to kick the Argentinians out because they had invaded British territory ' ?

[AzCal Retred]

The response would have been muted to say the least if billions in mineral & fisheries rights weren't in play. It's that cost/benefit thing. The US doesn't go to war if their citizens are stuck in Russian prisons do they? Changing the street sign(s?) in the Falklands is way down the priority list of reasons for sending a UK Naval battle group 12,000 miles one way. When you add in a few $$$Billions$$$ in potential resource losses, NOW you have incentive.

[Leofric]

The response would have been muted to say the least if billions in mineral & fisheries rights weren't in play. It's that cost/benefit thing. The US doesn't go to war if their citizens are stuck in Russian prisons do they? Changing the street sign(s?) in the Falklands is way down the priority list of reasons for sending a UK Naval battle group 12,000 miles one way. When you add in a few $$$Billions$$$ in potential resource losses, NOW you have incentive.

Yes, I suppose you are right,  (it would certainly have been a lot cheaper to just evacuate a few thousand Falklands islanders to Britain. ) but not sure the British soldiers ,sailors and airmen saw it that way.
I don't suppose there was some ulterior motive for the British confronting Hitler and the Nazis though was there ?!

[AzCal Retred]

It's not ulterior, it's THE motive. Wars are always fought over resources, either direct possession or access. Nazis (Axis) were obviously intent on reallocating Allied resources. The Allied governments pushed back, eventually in some cases. Interestingly there was an American Nazi party pushing the USA to remain isolationist...a lot like the eejits currently delaying Ukraine funding. I wonder what Putin is promising our eejits.

[Leofric]

i think my comments about the Falklands islanders being evacuated were mistaken.The Falkland islanders determine their own future.
The following is a quote from Quora that clarifies some points -
' Who do the Malvinas/Falkland Islands really belong to?
The islands belong to those inhabitants that hold deeds to the land and property on the islands.
The people that live there own the islands.
Who they ask to provide them with protection is entirely up to them.
And as of the last time of asking them, the UN determined that the islanders wished to be protected by the UK. '
The islanders voted by about 99% to stay connected to the UK.
 

[GlennF]

Showing the flag - US style. The Buff can deliver a horrendous payload. Now if we just had one over Ukraine...
Decline in fish output seen amid destruction of 21,000 acres of West Philippine Sea coral reefs
Bella Cariaso - The Philippine Star ; February 24, 2024 | 8:00am
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/02/24/2335793/decline-fish-output-seen-amid-destruction-21000-acres-west-philippine-sea-coral-reefs

B-52 Flies with Philippine Fighters over the South China Sea ; Feb. 21, 2024
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/b-52-philippine-fighters-flies-south-china-sea/

The B52 is one of Boeings older designs still in service, first flown on 15th April 1952.

The 737 is getting up there though, the 737 first flew just 15 years later on 9th April 1967.

Most people do not realise that the 737 is just a spruced up and modded (some would say ghetto modded) 57 year old Vietnam War era design .  The 737 was around and carrying passengers while Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix were still alive and performing.

The oldest 737 still operational is in Venezuala and was manufactured 45 years ago in 1978.

[AzCal Retred]

" The people that live there own the islands. "

Hawaii? Australia? Ireland? Taiwan? England in Roman times? Most of Africa and the Americas had "First People". The organized people with better tech & superior military resources ended up being the people handing out "Deeds & Titles".

I thoroughly enjoyed New Mexico's Federal Representative Deb Haaland ( Laguna Pueblo people ) who ran as a "35th Generation New Mexican"....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_Haaland

[him a layin]

sorry, not relevant. hard to keep up with the thread drift.

[Leofric]

sorry, not relevant. hard to keep up with the thread drift.

At the moment it seems some people think Britain shouldn't have sent a task force to remove the Argentinians who had invaded from The Falklands.
They need a few Royal Marines to have a word with them 

[GlennF]

At the moment it seems some people think Britain shouldn't have sent a task force to remove the Argentinians who had invaded from The Falklands.
They need a few Royal Marines to have a word with them 

Seems to me they did the right thing (standing up to aggression).

But for the wrong reasons (resource issues and to garner votes at home).

[Leofric]

Seems to me they did the right thing (standing up to aggression).

But for the wrong reasons (resource issues and to garner votes at home).

and to evict the Argentinians as Britain had agreed to protect the Falkland islanders as the islanders wanted.

[AzCal Retred]

"At the moment it seems some people think Britain shouldn't have sent a task force to remove the Argentinians who had invaded from The Falklands.They need a few Royal Marines to have a word with them  "

"Some People" think that the primary reason the Royal Marines (and a Naval task force) were sent was that there was money/resources at stake. "Some People" think that the response is proportional to value. If the Falklanders had oil the USA might have offered to help...