[ace.cafe]

Gremlinsteve,
Not sure if you said you were going to powder coat the clutch & magneto cover.
If you did or if anyone else has do you have to remove the top and bottom needle roller bearings in the clutch cover or can they be left in and just re grease them?
I do not want to oder the special tool unless I have to.
Thanks.

Powder coat baking temps are usually 350°- 450°F. Much over 350°F will probably start to turn the needle bearings to a very light straw color. While I have seen good results from bearing races that have turned light straw without any problem, you might want to specify that they bake the powder coat at 350°F to keep the effect on bearing temper to a minimum.
Or else, remove the bearings.

[Breaker Express]

Thanks. I just looked on Hitchcocks and the special tool are not available so I would have to find an alternate way if I have to remove them. Any idea's?

[ace.cafe]

I have found good results removing bearings from alloy cases by heating the case in the oven to about 300°F and then quickly turning the case with the bearing facing down on the workbench and tapping on the case and the bearing/race usually just drops out due to difference in thermal expansion of the alloy case vs steel bearing/race. If it is stubborn, you could heat to 320°F and help get it out with a wooden stick.
To reinstall, put the bearing in the freezer in a ziploc bag, and re-heat case up again, remove bearing/race from ziploc bag, and drop the bearing/race into its seat in the case, and let it all cool down.
Re-grease, and Bob's your uncle!

Haven't tried it with a powder coated case, but maybe ask the powder coating guy about whether heating it up would be any problem.

[Gremlinsteve]

I agree with ace
Mine are set to go back on in a day or so
I’ll snap pics

I used a semi gloss powder coat

[Breaker Express]

Thanks for the help. I will be doing this in about 3K miles. I have already powder coated the sprocket cover, heel guard and FI covers. I have a friend that has access to the equipment

[zimmemr]

I have found good results removing bearings from alloy cases by heating the case in the oven to about 300°F and then quickly turning the case with the bearing facing down on the workbench and tapping on the case and the bearing/race usually just drops out due to difference in thermal expansion of the alloy case vs steel bearing/race. If it is stubborn, you could heat to 320°F and help get it out with a wooden stick.
To reinstall, put the bearing in the freezer in a ziploc bag, and re-heat case up again, remove bearing/race from ziploc bag, and drop the bearing/race into its seat in the case, and let it all cool down.
Re-grease, and Bob's your uncle!

Haven't tried it with a powder coated case, but maybe ask the powder coating guy about whether heating it up would be any problem.

We use to call removing a bearing like that "fwapping." The first time an old hand showed it to me I couldn't believe it, but I've been removing blind bearings like that for 50 years now and it still works just fine.

[Jack Straw]

"Heat soak" is a great method.  When I was still living at home I would now and then sneak engine cases into my moms' oven.  Worked great.  She finally busted me one time when she found an entire Ducati crankcase assembly in there.  I was splitting the cases but they were just too darn stuck. It worked nicely and since I put tin drip pan underneath the consequences were not bad.

I've used that temperature differential treatment in many instances even on some guitar restoration work.

[Gremlinsteve]

Pics

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One more

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Clutch installed

[Jared_Lee]

I wish there was a "Like" button I could smash for your picture updates. Looking good, Gremlinsteve!

[wachuko]

I wish there was a "Like" button I could smash for your picture updates. Looking good, Gremlinsteve!

YES!!

[Gremlinsteve]

Some assembly porn

[Gremlinsteve]

Slight set back today
The install was going good till I opened the packaging for the magneto cover and clutch covers

I found both of the where broken. 

So I had to order two more

Then the jugg install went south after I clipped a ring on install and broke it

So I was forced to order a new set of rings from wiseco  for the motor build

Yes. Wiseco is the manufacturer of the pistons used in the s&s 865 kit