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General Discussion => Campfire Talk => Topic started by: James. on February 23, 2023, 01:14:01 pm
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I have noticed on recent posts there are some members and Pedro comes to mind who have done nothing except slag off Royal Enfield and constantly used the word crap when talking about the quality of the bike.Why are you here?Go and buy a Honda or BMW if that's what you want.Dont annoy members with your hate of the brand.My final thoughts to those of you "go and take a flying fuck at the moon".
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There is a solution for your problem sweetheart, its called ignore button ok snowflake, use it , so you dont read things that hurt your sensible feelings ;D ;D
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There is a solution for your problem sweetheart, its called ignore button ok snowflake, use it , so you dont read things that hurt your sensible feelings ;D ;D
There are forums for people writing like you do. This one is none of these, as I realised.
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I agree with you James, the constant negativity and school girl sniveling by certain members here is just annoying.
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Just ignore them, not feeding the trolls is the best solution.
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I agree with James 100%
If you can’t play nice please go play somewhere else.
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Go to your profile and on the left hand column under "Modify Profile" select "Buddy/Ignore Lists"
https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=lists;sa=ignore
Then click "Edit Ignore List" and add "Pedro___" or any user you consider not adding value.
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If the RE came with more tools than you own, you probably bought the wrong bike. ;D
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If the RE came with more tools than you own, you probably bought the wrong bike. ;D
PERFECT.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pedro's tool inventory extends no further than a few allen wrenches that came with Ikea furniture and a nail file he found somewhere.
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I have noticed on recent posts there are some members and Pedro comes to mind who have done nothing except slag off Royal Enfield and constantly used the word crap when talking about the quality of the bike.Why are you here?Go and buy a Honda or BMW if that's what you want.Dont annoy members with your hate of the brand.My final thoughts to those of you "go and take a flying fuck at the moon".
Having members supporting RE by telling people to EXPECT issues after spending thousands on a brand new motorcycle isn't much better.
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ONE thing is certain . . . . you wouldn't see a thread like this on a Honda forum. ;D
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I have noticed on recent posts there are some members and Pedro comes to mind who have done nothing except slag off Royal Enfield and constantly used the word crap when talking about the quality of the bike.Why are you here?Go and buy a Honda or BMW if that's what you want.Dont annoy members with your hate of the brand.My final thoughts to those of you "go and take a flying fxxk at the moon".
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I have noticed on recent posts there are some members and Pedro comes to mind who have done nothing except slag off Royal Enfield and constantly used the word crap when talking about the quality of the bike.Why are you here?Go and buy a Honda or BMW if that's what you want.Dont annoy members with your hate of the brand.My final thoughts to those of you "go and take a flying fxxk at the moon".
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Having members supporting RE by telling people to EXPECT issues after spending thousands on a brand new motorcycle isn't much better.
i think this is one of my issues too. its weird when people say "well its a cheap bike, so obviously you're gonna run into a few problems!"
thats some weird low expectations here. the only other bike i bought brand new was a suzuki tu250x. it was cheap as hell. absolutely nowhere online would you see anyone going "well its a low priced bike, so expect random issues you'll have to fix!"
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Go to your profile and on the left hand column under "Modify Profile" select "Buddy/Ignore Lists"
https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=lists;sa=ignore
Then click "Edit Ignore List" and add "Pedro___" or any user you consider not adding value.
If he's here I want to know what he is saying.Ignoring a problem won't make it go away.
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One of the principal benefits (among many) of enthusiast forums, such as this one, is to permit fellow enthusiasts to express concern about a specific problem with their car, bike, crossbow, metal detector, parachute or whatever implement or avocation that brings us together. Invariably, the mass of membership in the forum rises up in support of the aggrieved member with expressions of condolences and/or the offering of suggestions re how to fix the problem.
Bellyaching to the max and/or denouncing broadly the object of our affection does little to engender outpourings of support and leaves the harried petitioner no better off.
Ralph
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One of the principal benefits (among many) of enthusiast forums, such as this one, is to permit fellow enthusiasts to express concern about a specific problem with their car, bike, crossbow, metal detector, parachute or whatever implement or avocation that brings us together. Invariably, the mass of membership in the forum rises up in support of the aggrieved member with expressions of condolences and/or the offering of suggestions re how to fix the problem.
Bellyaching to the max and/or denouncing broadly the object of our affection does little to engender outpourings of support and leaves the harried petitioner no better off.
Ralph
Yes and I don't want them here.
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There is a solution for your problem sweetheart, its called ignore button ok snowflake, use it , so you dont read things that hurt your sensible feelings ;D ;D
Where the fk is the ignore button. I need to use it!
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Where the fk is the ignore button. I need to use it!
Your User Name
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Thanks!
I don't like "silencing" a contributor, but his contributions are worthless.
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Thanks!
I don't like "silencing" a contributor, but his contributions are worthless.
Calling him a contributor is a gross misuse of the word.
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i think this is one of my issues too. its weird when people say "well its a cheap bike, so obviously you're gonna run into a few problems!"
thats some weird low expectations here. the only other bike i bought brand new was a suzuki tu250x. it was cheap as hell. absolutely nowhere online would you see anyone going "well its a low priced bike, so expect random issues you'll have to fix!"
The tu was a bike built for almost 30 years with a very old engine platform so all its kinks had been ironed out. Issues are more commonly associated with new designs like the Enfield twins. People are often advised not to buy the first of anything if you want to minimise the issues you might have. The most famous case Phil has already mentioned which is the so called chocolate camshafts of the VF750 or Interceptor for the US folks.
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Yes and I don't want them here.
It's called free speech, it's much better than the alternative.
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It's called free speech, it's much better than the alternative.
Yes, I agree. Turning forums into woke, backslapping, "you're not welcome to comment unless you agree with me" is the thin end of the wedge. A robust exchange of views is good. I remember a member that was here that went to great lengths to modify the aesthetics of his bike to eliminate what he couldn't stand then when another member modified his bike to precisely the opposite look he posted about how he thought it looked so great and he loved it. That's just being disingenuous and pathetic. Lets hear what people genuinely think about things even if you personally think it's annoying and wrong. The alternative is the path we are starting down now as a society. If you are going to say anything meaningful then you risk offending "someone" but the alternative is much, much worse.
Phil
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If anyone remembers some of the epic trolls on the Ducati.ms (come in tye1138) Pedro has a long way to go. You would have to assume that if Pedro actually owns a RE then he must quite like it (just like our Canadian friend who could easily sell it if he hates it). I love my bike despite it on paper being a pretty unimpressive motorcycle.
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Yes and I don't want them here.
Don't worry about it. There have been more disagreeable forum members than the ones you mean that have come and gone, before you blew in.
If you wait long enough, they fizzle out. And if they don't, you can just ignore them as the others suggested.
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Don't worry about it. There have been more disagreeable forum members than the ones you mean that have come and gone, before you blew in.
If you wait long enough, they fizzle out. And if they don't, you can just ignore them as the others suggested.
Blew in?😜 I love it.
I will maybe be blowing out if I have to read any more of pedros shite.
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These high stakes plays remind me of a certain "ballet of death"
https://youtu.be/cWs4WA--eKU
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These high stakes plays remind me of a certain "ballet of death"
https://youtu.be/cWs4WA--eKU
Love it👍
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These high stakes plays remind me of a certain "ballet of death"
https://youtu.be/cWs4WA--eKU
“Let’s not get carried away”…😂
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These high stakes plays remind me of a certain "ballet of death"
https://youtu.be/cWs4WA--eKU
;D That was hilarious! :D
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These high stakes plays remind me of a certain "ballet of death"
https://youtu.be/cWs4WA--eKU
Thank you for that.
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Yes, I agree. Turning forums into woke, backslapping, "you're not welcome to comment unless you agree with me" is the thin end of the wedge. A robust exchange of views is good. I remember a member that was here that went to great lengths to modify the aesthetics of his bike to eliminate what he couldn't stand then when another member modified his bike to precisely the opposite look he posted about how he thought it looked so great and he loved it. That's just being disingenuous and pathetic. Lets hear what people genuinely think about things even if you personally think it's annoying and wrong. The alternative is the path we are starting down now as a society. If you are going to say anything meaningful then you risk offending "someone" but the alternative is much, much worse.
Phil
These people can very easily have their perfect version of a forum, where all users give each other reach arounds, he simply can mute anyone whose opinions hurt him.
Its as simple as that, everyone who has an opinion that hurts him, bam mute, then he can give reach around to others and receive them in a safe snowflake environment. ;D
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These high stakes plays remind me of a certain "ballet of death"
https://youtu.be/cWs4WA--eKU
;D ;D ;D
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These people can very easily have their perfect version of a forum, where all users give each other reach arounds, he simply can mute anyone whose opinions hurt him.
Its as simple as that, everyone who has an opinion that hurts him, bam mute, then he can give reach around to others and receive them in a safe snowflake environment. ;D
Still here to spread your word how crap a motorcycle the Royal Enfield interceptor is?
Pedro I don't want to mute you I am waiting to hear you say something good about Royal Enfield.
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Still here to spread your word how crap a motorcycle the Royal Enfield interceptor is?
Pedro I don't want to mute you I am waiting to hear you say something good about Royal Enfield.
James, it sounds like he's got you right where he wants you.
Well played, Pedro_, ya bastard. 8)
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These people can very easily have their perfect version of a forum, where all users give each other reach arounds, he simply can mute anyone whose opinions hurt him.
Its as simple as that, everyone who has an opinion that hurts him, bam mute, then he can give reach around to others and receive them in a safe snowflake environment. ;D
mob mentality is online too. i remember at one point, people thought i was LYING about my gt650 breaking down lol. its like they couldn't believe it could possibly happen to this precious perfect bike.
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James, it sounds like he's got you right where he wants you.
Well played, Pedro_, ya bastard. 8)
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mob mentality is online too. i remember at one point, people thought i was LYING about my gt650 breaking down lol. its like they couldn't believe it could possibly happen to this precious perfect bike.
That one is easy enough to prove or disprove. Provide the link to that comment
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That one is easy enough to prove or disprove. Provide the link to that comment
Who were these people who thought you were lying or is it you think these people think you were lying.
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If I remember correctly it was less that people accused him of lying and more a general lack of sympathy due to constant vitriolic outbursts.
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James, it sounds like he's got you right where he wants you.
Well played, Pedro_, ya bastard. 8)
Well I have heard he has been banned so hopefully this will be confirmed.
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Well I have heard he has been banned so hopefully this will be confirmed.
Yeah, he was banned after I reported his AIDS comment. I don't mind the naysayers, just don't be an insufferable tool about it.
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Yeah, he was banned after I reported his AIDS comment. I don't mind the naysayers, just don't be an insufferable tool about it.
I'm not sure if his user name is a common user name for trolls but a quick search will find same name from the same claimed location booted from other forums as well. It is just what they do. One was even a cooking forum. A lot of times they even brag about being previously banned from other forums. Maybe even 10 times...
_ As far as I'm concerned it is not about free speech any more than spam is free speech. It's just a form of bullying for cowards.
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I feel he got away with a lot for too long before he was ejected.If this post helped , bad language and all that's how strongly I felt.
We need to call these guys out early doors.Hitting the ignore button wasn't an option for me.
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I feel he got away with a lot for too long before he was ejected.If this post helped , bad language and all that's how strongly I felt.
We need to call these guys out early doors.Hitting the ignore button wasn't an option for me.
My hero! Thank the good lord we've got you, James, to protect us from these nefarious internet warrior types.
I like the spice that the likes of Pedro bring. It's all good fun and adds to the mix. Some of you take this motorcycling thing way too seriously!
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My hero! Thank the good lord we've got you, James, to protect us from these nefarious internet warrior types.
I like the spice that the likes of Pedro bring. It's all good fun and adds to the mix. Some of you take this motorcycling thing way too seriously!
I accept the sarcasm in your first line.
I have a different scale for "spice". Yes, there is a reverence about motorcycles that can cause us to get in our own way. Motorcycles make me feel better and are extremely efficient within a narrow band.
_ When it comes to forums, one thing that I take seriously is my time. I enjoy the camaraderie and personalities, I hate time-wasters. More specifically, I hate posters who subordinate my time for their own mental masturbation of being annoying.
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I accept the sarcasm in your first line.
I have a different scale for "spice". Yes, there is a reverence about motorcycles that can cause us to get in our own way. Motorcycles make me feel better and are extremely efficient within a narrow band.
_ When it comes to forums, one thing that I take seriously is my time. I enjoy the camaraderie and personalities, I hate time-wasters. More specifically, I hate posters who subordinate my time for their own mental masturbation of being annoying.
+1
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I accept the sarcasm in your first line.
I have a different scale for "spice". Yes, there is a reverence about motorcycles that can cause us to get in our own way. Motorcycles make me feel better and are extremely efficient within a narrow band.
_ When it comes to forums, one thing that I take seriously is my time. I enjoy the camaraderie and personalities, I hate time-wasters. More specifically, I hate posters who subordinate my time for their own mental masturbation of being annoying.
I have a great deal of respect for you and your incisive, informative posts on this forum, but I can't countenance a view that any poster whose views, extreme as they might be, are a waste of recourses and somehow that subordinates your oh so valuable time, simply by posting on a forum.
Pedro is simply a nuisance, probably a troll, but he, inadvertently, adds balance. And there's an underlying truth, amongst the bitter nonsense, to what he posts. The RE 650s are deeply flawed. Doesn't stop me from loving mine.
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I have a great deal of respect for you and your incisive, informative posts on this forum, but I can't countenance a view that any poster whose views, extreme as they might be, are a waste of recourses and somehow that subordinates your oh so valuable time, simply by posting on a forum.
Pedro is simply a nuisance, probably a troll, but he, inadvertently, adds balance. And there's an underlying truth, amongst the bitter nonsense, to what he posts. The RE 650s are deeply flawed. Doesn't stop me from loving mine.
When a post is made that is intended solely to irritate as many readers as possible, and there have been many, it is a complete waste of everyone’s time.
Opinions are fine, I give mine often, but deliberately trying to be obnoxious is something completely different and has no place anywhere.
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I feel he got away with a lot for too long before he was ejected.If this post helped , bad language and all that's how strongly I felt.
We need to call these guys out early doors.Hitting the ignore button wasn't an option for me.
Nothing is offensive until one person TAKES offence, it is not given. Who decides what that point is, you?
This is the begining of the removal of free speech, it's the cancel culture we are now suffering.
Rather than cancel someone, ask them why they feel like they do.
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It's the internet. There's always that genius, the one that knows your bike better than you, is an expert on every conceivable subject of conversation, and has done everything ever thought of perfectly multiple times.
I picture them as a balding morbidly obese schlub, living in his mom's basement wasting away their days online, while most of us spend a few minutes reading the news and checking out a couple motorcycle forums before going on with our day.
If they own or have ridden an actual motorcycle more than a few miles, it would come as a shock to me.
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@ Reply #49: +1, well spoken.
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Nothing is offensive until one person TAKES offence, it is not given. Who decides what that point is, you?
This is the begining of the removal of free speech, it's the cancel culture we are now suffering.
Rather than cancel someone, ask them why they feel like they do.
OTOH, some people speak or post malicious lies with no other intent than to offend and cause damage. Is calling them out "cancel culture"? Should we just meekly let them flood the conversation with harmful propaganda with no consequences? The flip side of "cancel culture" is "my feelings and opinions are more valid than verifiable facts". We should hold ourselves and each other to some standards of honesty.
I have not seen a whole lot of Pedro's posts, but of the ones I did, not one was constructive or factually informative about the bikes, and too many were blatantly dishonest. I will not miss him a bit. In comparison, that 10x guy has countered his own admitted trolling with some reasoned commentary and admits that his decision to sell his 650 is more about how he feels about it than the bike being actually unreliable. That's fair enough. Few of us buy and ride bikes because they are sensible.
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It's the internet. There's always that genius, the one that knows your bike better than you, is an expert on every conceivable subject of conversation, and has done everything ever thought of perfectly multiple times.
I picture them as a balding morbidly obese schlub, living in his mom's basement wasting away their days online, while most of us spend a few minutes reading the news and checking out a couple motorcycle forums before going on with our day.
If they own or have ridden an actual motorcycle more than a few miles, it would come as a shock to me.
Hold on just a second! I'm skinny, have all my hair and don't live in my mom's basement!
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Me too !
now, I have some grapes and fruit trees to prune before lunch.
;D
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This is my final word on Pedro.
There's constructive intelligent criticism and there's plain hatred.If anyone else comes on this forum and posts about Royal Enfield being an absolute crap brand and crap quality motorcycle and urges potential buyers not to buy I won't hit the ignore button.Anyone who thinks he "adds to the mix" or there is freedom of speech issue,well sorry.
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This is my final word on Pedro.
There's constructive intelligent criticism and there's plain hatred.If anyone else comes on this forum and posts about Royal Enfield being an absolute crap brand and crap quality motorcycle and urges potential buyers not to buy I won't hit the ignore button.Anyone who thinks he "adds to the mix" or there is freedom of speech issue,well sorry.
Frankly I don’t understand why you think you should decide for everyone else. Just use ignore. Maybe you are too tied up with the brand. I couldn’t care less what anyone says about RE or anything else. I make my own choices and rate my opinion far higher than some rando in the web.
Remember what George Carlin reminded us of “think of how stupid the average person is … 50% of them are more stupider than that”
In real life we choose who we interact with. Do the same online and you’ll be much happier.
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Frankly I don’t understand why you think you should decide for everyone else. Just use ignore. Maybe you are too tied up with the brand. I couldn’t care less what anyone says about RE or anything else. I make my own choices and rate my opinion far higher than some rando in the web.
Remember what George Carlin reminded us of “think of how stupid the average person is … 50% of them are more stupider than that”
In real life we choose who we interact with. Do the same online and you’ll be much happier.
I am not deciding anything for anyone except me.Yes you can hit the ignore button that's your choice.I didn't ,called him out pointed the finger now he's gone.Objective achieved
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This is my final word on Pedro.
There's constructive intelligent criticism and there's plain hatred.If anyone else comes on this forum and posts about Royal Enfield being an absolute crap brand and crap quality motorcycle and urges potential buyers not to buy I won't hit the ignore button.Anyone who thinks he "adds to the mix" or there is freedom of speech issue,well sorry.
well to be fair...RE prior to the 650s was WIDELY regarded as a crap brand lol. every motorcycle circle knew this. the 650 line definitely helped change that narrative but they're still fighting an uphill battle in reputation.
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I am not deciding anything for anyone except me.Yes you can hit the ignore button that's your choice.I didn't ,called him out pointed the finger now he's gone.Objective achieved
Pedro is no longer here because You complained and pointed Your finger, he is now cancelled through Your actions. No one else. You wanted to silence somebody because he irritated you. You decided for everyone else.
Worse still, the mods listened to you.
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Pedro is no longer here because You complained and pointed Your finger, he is now cancelled through Your actions. No one else. You wanted to silence somebody because he irritated you. You decided for everyone else.
Worse still, the mods listened to you.
I can tell you absolutely categorically it wasn't just down to me and it wasn't what I was complaining about that he was eventually banned for.So I would say you are pointing the finger and making totally false allegations.
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well to be fair...RE prior to the 650s was WIDELY regarded as a crap brand lol. every motorcycle circle knew this. the 650 line definitely helped change that narrative but they're still fighting an uphill battle in reputation.
I will add "and deservedly" to your WIDELY. The Bullets were slightly evolved 1930s motorcycle technology. People loved them for that, but that love didn't make them reliable in modern terms. And as you indicate, reputations take time to change. That's what the current management is doing.
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Pedro is no longer here because You complained and pointed Your finger, he is now cancelled through Your actions. No one else. You wanted to silence somebody because he irritated you. You decided for everyone else.
Worse still, the mods listened to you.
Pedro got banned for being an unmitigated intentional asshole who didn't contribute anything to the forum or operate within forum rules, but did his best to do all the harm he could. And here you are judging and blaming the wrong person for his banning. I know you can do better because you nearly always do.
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Pedro is no longer here because You complained and pointed Your finger, he is now cancelled through Your actions. No one else. You wanted to silence somebody because he irritated you. You decided for everyone else.
Worse still, the mods listened to you.
Nope, plenty of us were tired of his deliberate obnoxiousness. He was just trying to irritate people, not offer any facts or even opinions, his sole purpose appeared to be to stir up trouble.
Unfortunately there are people in the world that are hell bend on making sure everyone is miserable.
Free speech, at least in the US, is specifically to prevent the government from regulating speech.
Society is still free to set standards of behavior and discipline those who break them.
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The moderators of this site banned him, no forum member is responsible. When I reported his AIDS comment I got an email reply from one of the moderators stating, "Thanks he has been removed." I was honestly surprised they canned him.
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I will add "and deservedly" to your WIDELY. The Bullets were slightly evolved 1930s motorcycle technology. People loved them for that, but that love didn't make them reliable in modern terms. And as you indicate, reputations take time to change. That's what the current management is doing.
Except in the rest of the work where people remember them as dependable, well performing sporty motorbikes that won ISDTs and did millions of trips to work and down to the shops. Redditch Enfields were good motorbikes. Even the lightweights are good. The Continental GT can even be made to work properly. They were no worse than any other British bike, and better than some.
Moving to manufacturing in India got Enfield the reputation it enjoys today. I know they're the ones you mean. Just pointing out there's more to the RE story than the Indian bikes.
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Nope, plenty of us were tired of his deliberate obnoxiousness. He was just trying to irritate people, not offer any facts or even opinions, his sole purpose appeared to be to stir up trouble.
Unfortunately there are people in the world that are hell bend on making sure everyone is miserable.
Free speech, at least in the US, is specifically to prevent the government from regulating speech.
Society is still free to set standards of behavior and discipline those who break them.
Yes. Some folks have the mistaken idea that "freedom of speech" means they can say anything they want without any repercussions from anybody, when what it really means is that the government isn't permitted to prohibit them from saying it in the first place. Does not apply to private venues such as this forum.
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Except in the rest of the work where people remember them as dependable, well performing sporty motorbikes that won ISDTs and did millions of trips to work and down to the shops. Redditch Enfields were good motorbikes. Even the lightweights are good. The Continental GT can even be made to work properly. They were no worse than any other British bike, and better than some.
Moving to manufacturing in India got Enfield the reputation it enjoys today. I know they're the ones you mean. Just pointing out there's more to the RE story than the Indian bikes.
You are quite correct. I was referring specifically to the Bullets that were already somewhat outdated when the tooling was moved to India. And I think I would honestly enjoy owning a Bullet, just not as a primary bike, and I would expect it to be what it is, an old crock that can still be fun. Kinda like me.
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I've been a member of the Miata.net forum for 19 years and was a moderator for a portion of that time. In the earlier days, you couldn't even curse. Type shit, fuck, or asshole and you'd get yourself a demerit.
I always thought that was a little draconian and silly, but people bellyaching over a troll like pedro getting banned kinda makes my eyes roll back in my head. A line needs to be drawn somewhere or we'll all eat each other.
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My Bullet served me well for years. No complaints.
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My Bullet served me well for years. No complaints.
One would be really lovely for tootling around the local backroads at sedate speeds. But it would be a third motorcycle, and I don't want to keep up with that many.
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My Bullet served me well for years. No complaints.
If you had to ride a Iron Bullet a thousand miles to qualify for a INT/GT purchase, there would be a lot fewer of us here.
And zero complaints. ;D
Reminds me of those vintage car races where you had both a driver and mechanic.
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If you had to ride a Iron Bullet a thousand miles to qualify for a INT/GT purchase, there would be a lot fewer of us here.
And zero complaints. ;D
Reminds me of those vintage car races where you had both a driver and mechanic.
And some really snappy shoes.
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well to be fair...RE prior to the 650s was WIDELY regarded as a crap brand lol. every motorcycle circle knew this.
Yah and no. To some of us, it was an Old World Bike, from Old World tooling, being produced in the time capsule of India, at that time. I'd love to have an older (new) Bullet to park next to my old BSA. I think it would accent it quite well in the herd. That said, bikes to me aren't just a means of reliable fun and transport. I have my DRZ for that. I also need bikes that need my TLC and pampering, as a wrenching hobby.
Regarding the folks here, I'm glad to be the newby and hope I can affect this place positively. After all, I don't have my INT650 yet, but come Spring (and the snow finally stops), that will change. It's just a matter of color now. In the meantime, I'm here to enjoy the read, collect tech info, and get to know some of the regulars personalities through reading, so I can blend as well as possible. Regarding this thread, some folks just like to stir the pot. Doesn't bug me none. I just ignore them. I'm not going to let someones pot-stirring drive me from collecting info on a serious buying decision. These guys are everywhere online. Nothing new.
Glad to be here, and I look forward to reading lots of great information.
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Yah and no. To some of us, it was an Old World Bike, from Old World tooling, being produced in the time capsule of India, at that time. I'd love to have an older (new) Bullet to park next to my old BSA. I think it would accent it quite well in the herd. That said, bikes to me aren't just a means of reliable fun and transport. I have my DRZ for that. I also need bikes that need my TLC and pampering, as a wrenching hobby.
Regarding the folks here, I'm glad to be the newby and hope I can affect this place positively. After all, I don't have my INT650 yet, but come Spring (and the snow finally stops), that will change. It's just a matter of color now. In the meantime, I'm here to enjoy the read, collect tech info, and get to know some of the regulars personalities through reading, so I can blend as well as possible. Regarding this thread, some folks just like to stir the pot. Doesn't bug me none. I just ignore them. I'm not going to let someones pot-stirring drive me from collecting info on a serious buying decision. These guys are everywhere online. Nothing new.
Glad to be here, and I look forward to reading lots of great information.
Nicely put. I'm pretty much the same; fettling is part of the fun. A RE isn't an appliance like a toaster and some folk can't cope with that.
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What?! Six pages?!! That's all there is?
Oh well...did the valves at 1500 miles (bought it second hand), yes--three were tight, one was loose.
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What?! Six pages?!! That's all there is?
Oh well...did the valves at 1500 miles (bought it second hand), yes--three were tight, one was loose.
Welcome back, Pedro.
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Welcome back, Pedro.
Have you just blown his cover?
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Have you just blown his cover?
I was just messin' :o...I can assure you I'm not any Pedro...maybe Paul or even Mary, but not Pedrito.
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I was just messin' :o...I can assure you I'm not any Pedro...maybe Paul or even Mary, but not Pedrito.
Have a word with Martz64 I think he is a bit confused.
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Have you just blown his cover?
Not unless Pedro posted as a completely different persona on Adventure Rider and carried the long-established pdedse username and posting style over here.
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Peter,. Paul and.Mary. Puff the Magic Dragon (not Spooky). Seekers of the morning train.
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@ #60:" Pedro is no longer here because You complained and pointed Your finger, he is now cancelled through Your actions. No one else. You wanted to silence somebody because he irritated you. You decided for everyone else. Worse still, the mods listened to you. "
Too funny. Really? James the all-powerful? Pedro didn't participate at all in his own situation? Can you really for a moment really believe the Forum administrators answer to a sole contributor? If so, i'd be vewwy vewwy careful not to offend James if that was the case. More likely Pedro became a potential liability to the Forum, not just an irritant to the other participants.
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@ #60:" Pedro is no longer here because You complained and pointed Your finger, he is now cancelled through Your actions. No one else. You wanted to silence somebody because he irritated you. You decided for everyone else. Worse still, the mods listened to you. "
Too funny. Really? James the all-powerful? Pedro didn't participate at all in his own situation? Can you really for a moment really believe the Forum administrators answer to a sole contributor? If so, i'd be vewwy vewwy careful not to offend James if that was the case. More likely Pedro became a potential liability to the Forum, not just an irritant to the other participants.
The guy who's quote you are using has already got egg on his face.Read all the posts .
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I did. I'm in your court. You didn't post #60. The premise of #60 was absurd.
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I did. I'm in your court. You didn't post #60. The premise of #60 was absurd.
I have reread it for the umpteenth
time and it wasn't clear to me.that you were giving me support however thank you.
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Guys like Pedro make it difficult for the rest of us to have civil discourse. Keep on keepin' on! - ACR -
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This forum reminds me of many others where I read most all the posts to find out how to upgrade my basically cool vehicle with all the improvements other people discovered individually and shared. I like that the factory designs weren't everything up front.
For me that means I upgraded my Yamaha RD350, Datsun 240Z, and Shasta Airflyte Camper Trailer based on other people's insight. Same has been my journey with my GT650, which I love in its current modified state.
On this forum I most like Hoiho, respect Phil's knowledge and grumpiness (Italian like me?), and appreciate Jess's persistence and aesthetic result. Thanks NJ Mike for the cam info.
End result, I don't enjoy the trolls humor, but I do appreciate people sharing what works and didn't for them. I wanted a re-issued 70's motorcycle design with disk brakes and fuel injection, and I have it now.
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Pedro is no longer here because You complained and pointed Your finger, he is now cancelled through Your actions. No one else. You wanted to silence somebody because he irritated you. You decided for everyone else.
Worse still, the mods listened to you.
I reported his posts as well, and got the response that the admins had decided to ban him. I have no idea who was the straw that broke the camel's back with that, but it definitely wasn't just James that was disgusted with Pedro's bullshit. No one person here has that much sway.
Free Speech Absolutionists really need to pull their heads out of their asses sometimes. We live in a society, and occasionally society needs to tell people to sit down and shut up.
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These high stakes plays remind me of a certain "ballet of death"
https://youtu.be/cWs4WA--eKU
Thanks! That was superb!
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Interesting thread.
I go away for week or so and this happens…….
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I reported his posts as well, and got the response that the admins had decided to ban him. I have no idea who was the straw that broke the camel's back with that, but it definitely wasn't just James that was disgusted with Pedro's bullshit. No one person here has that much sway.
Free Speech Absolutionists really need to pull their heads out of their asses sometimes. We live in a society, and occasionally society needs to tell people to sit down and shut up.
If that is the case, I apologise to James for assuming it was just him.
So, that's two then, any more?
At least we now know who ask where our free speech stops.
I still don't think that Pedro should have been banned. As Pedro suggested to those that were annoyed, hit that ignore button. That way if everyone is annoyed and hits the button then he would be shouting into the wind. Not everyone was annoyed by him, yes, a bit of a stuck record, so what?
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I appreciate being 'Free' from Pedro's pish.
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I appreciate being 'Free' from Pedro's pish.
You are entitled to your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, I would defend to the last your right to voice it.
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If you are trying to have a sane discussion at a get together and a small child is melting down, raging around the room throwing things and screaming "look at me!!", either everyone goes home or the child goes to bed. Better for the attention seeking non-participant to leave. Few if any of the other participants here that are actually interested in the forum behave this way. If YOU went to someone else's house YOU wouldn't behave that way. It is unreasonable to attend a forum with the intent of being disruptive for your own amusement. It's unreasonable to deliberately tie up bandwidth with aggressive, unhelpful repartee. It's also OK to control access to a private, on-line shared-interest informational forum to the people willing to exercise enough self-control to further the topic, not regress into attention seeking behavior. "Free speech" isn't intended to function as cover for malicious behavior.
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So, the dude's been gone since four pages ago, and folks are STILL talking about him?
Kinda makes me feel like I've been too nice in life. Or, that folks have too much time on their hands, ... not sure which.
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If that is the case, I apologise to James for assuming it was just him.
So, that's two then, any more?
At least we now know who ask where our free speech stops.
I still don't think that Pedro should have been banned. As Pedro suggested to those that were annoyed, hit that ignore button. That way if everyone is annoyed and hits the button then he would be shouting into the wind. Not everyone was annoyed by him, yes, a bit of a stuck record, so what?
Nope. To ignore a malicious liar is to passively approve of the message and the behavior. The way to stop it is to call it out and to apply consequences. Neville Chamberlain tried the other approach, and it didn't work out well.
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If you are trying to have a sane discussion at a get together and a small child is melting down, raging around the room throwing things and screaming "look at me!!", either everyone goes home or the child goes to bed. Better for the attention seeking non-participant to leave. Few if any of the other participants here that are actually interested in the forum behave this way. If YOU went to someone else's house YOU wouldn't behave that way. It is unreasonable to attend a forum with the intent of being disruptive for your own amusement. It's unreasonable to deliberately tie up bandwidth with aggressive, unhelpful repartee. It's also OK to control access to a private, on-line shared-interest informational forum to the people willing to exercise enough self-control to further the topic, not regress into attention seeking behavior. "Free speech" isn't intended to function as cover for malicious behavior.
👍🏻
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If you are trying to have a sane discussion at a get together and a small child is melting down, raging around the room throwing things and screaming "look at me!!", either everyone goes home or the child goes to bed. Better for the attention seeking non-participant to leave. Few if any of the other participants here that are actually interested in the forum behave this way. If YOU went to someone else's house YOU wouldn't behave that way. It is unreasonable to attend a forum with the intent of being disruptive for your own amusement. It's unreasonable to deliberately tie up bandwidth with aggressive, unhelpful repartee. It's also OK to control access to a private, on-line shared-interest informational forum to the people willing to exercise enough self-control to further the topic, not regress into attention seeking behavior. "Free speech" isn't intended to function as cover for malicious behavior.
Rather than shout at the child to shut up then upon failure send it to bed, why not ask it why it is crying..
You never know.
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If you are trying to have a sane discussion at a get together and a small child is melting down, raging around the room throwing things and screaming "look at me!!",
Excellent description.
Totally agree.
If they could be humorous, there might be some comedic value.
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Rather than shout at the child to shut up then upon failure send it to bed, why not ask it why it is crying..
You never know.
Great strategy for actual children, I have three toddler grandchildren so I know, but Pedro was not a child. He is an adult who enjoys the distress of others, a situation completely different from the child analogy.
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Great strategy for actual children, I have three toddler grandchildren so I know, but Pedro was not a child. He is an adult who enjoys the distress of others, a situation completely different from the child analogy.
It's fine for you to thumbs up the original child analogy, but not for me to comment?
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Anyone else think it is now high time for Bilgey to lock this thread? ::)
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" It's fine for you to thumbs up the original child analogy, but not for me to comment? "
non sequitur /ˌnän ˈsekwədər/ ; noun
a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.; "his weird mixed metaphors and non sequiturs"
What JessH said was clear. There was nothing in it regarding your ability to comment.
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It's fine for you to thumbs up the original child analogy, but not for me to comment?
I sorry if my response was unclear. I was ‘thumbs up’-ing the other part of the post, not the child analogy.
Here is what I liked:
“ Better for the attention seeking non-participant to leave. Few if any of the other participants here that are actually interested in the forum behave this way. If YOU went to someone else's house YOU wouldn't behave that way. It is unreasonable to attend a forum with the intent of being disruptive for your own amusement. It's unreasonable to deliberately tie up bandwidth with aggressive, unhelpful repartee. It's also OK to control access to a private, on-line shared-interest informational forum to the people willing to exercise enough self-control to further the topic, not regress into attention seeking behavior. "Free speech" isn't intended to function as cover for malicious behavior.”
Sorry for any misunderstanding.
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" It's fine for you to thumbs up the original child analogy, but not for me to comment? "
non sequitur /ˌnän ˈsekwədər/ ; noun
a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.; "his weird mixed metaphors and non sequiturs"
What JessH said was clear. There was nothing in it regarding your ability to comment.
I think you know exactly what I meant.
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You aren't a victim. You had your say. Nobody has to agree with you.
Note that civil discourse with folks here hasn't got you booted. Things aren't that bad, the Forum Admin is very laissez-faire.
As far as "I think you know exactly what I meant.", written statement/response communication format is fraught with "comm error". Earlier James interpreted a response from me to your post at #60 as a criticism of himself. It's an iterative process. Try to be very clear in your remarks, ask if you require clarity from another.
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Nope. To ignore a malicious liar is to passively approve of the message and the behavior. The way to stop it is to call it out and to apply consequences. Neville Chamberlain tried the other approach, and it didn't work out well.
Putin,of course, would be a more up to date example.
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Putin,of course, would be a more up to date example.
I wanted a reference with a known outcome.
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I wanted a reference with a known outcome.
The outcome was the invasion of Ukraine wasn't it ?!
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The outcome was the invasion of Ukraine wasn't it ?!
I don't follow the news. Raises my blood pressure too much. But Russia/USSR invaded Afghanistan for years, too. That didn't quite go as planned after a while. So I'm withholding judgement on the outcome of that one.
In any case, bullies and liars should be kept on a short leash.
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I don't follow the news. Raises my blood pressure too much. But Russia/USSR invaded Afghanistan for years, too. That didn't quite go as planned after a while. So I'm withholding judgement on the outcome of that one.
In any case, bullies and liars should be kept on a short leash.
All I meant was the lack of response to Putin's earlier invasions was a more up to date example than Chamberlain's waving of a piece of paper after his meeting with Hitler. Nobody knows what the outcome of the war in Ukraine will be of course.
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All I meant was the lack of response to Putin's earlier invasions was a more up to date example than Chamberlain's waving of a piece of paper after his meeting with Hitler. Nobody knows what the outcome of the war in Ukraine will be of course.
Makes sense. Now, do you prefer a digital or analog clock, and would you have either on your bike?
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Makes sense. Now, do you prefer a digital or analog clock, and would you have either on your bike?
Sorry,you've lost me .
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Sorry,you've lost me .
I'm just trying to turn the discussion away from potentially really getting into politics by introducing another unrelated subject. Could have been about what kind of oil you prefer, or Arai vs. Shoei.
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I'm just trying to turn the discussion away from potentially really getting into politics by introducing another unrelated subject. Could have been about what kind of oil you prefer, or Arai vs. Shoei.
I'm going to stick to the 350 J platform, this 650 twin platform is confusing me. ;D
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I'm going to stick to the 350 J platform, this 650 twin platform is confusing me. ;D
The J is the same as half of a 650, only different. Does that help?
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I'm just trying to turn the discussion away from potentially really getting into politics by introducing another unrelated subject. Could have been about what kind of oil you prefer, or Arai vs. Shoei.
Shoei.
Analog clock.
Have one on my bike.
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You can’t beat analog.
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If you are trying to have a sane discussion at a get together and a small child is melting down, raging around the room throwing things and screaming "look at me!!", either everyone goes home or the child goes to bed. Better for the attention seeking non-participant to leave. Few if any of the other participants here that are actually interested in the forum behave this way. If YOU went to someone else's house YOU wouldn't behave that way. It is unreasonable to attend a forum with the intent of being disruptive for your own amusement. It's unreasonable to deliberately tie up bandwidth with aggressive, unhelpful repartee. It's also OK to control access to a private, on-line shared-interest informational forum to the people willing to exercise enough self-control to further the topic, not regress into attention seeking behavior. "Free speech" isn't intended to function as cover for malicious behavior.
It's not even remotely the same thing. A small child meltdown is an order of magnitude more disruptive to social discord than a few objectionable posts on an internet forum. And 'malicious behaviour'? Fuck off.
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...and a hearty FOAD back to you too sir! ;D
Just to be clear, as an adult person you really believe that other people are somehow obligated to wade thru an obstructive individuals self-entertainment psychodrama? Last time I looked this was an enthusiasts "technical" information sharing forum, not a mandatory hand holding session for the emotionally stunted. Pretty sure there are $200/hour professional listeners and drugs for that.
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Guys, can we just let this thread die? The direction it's going isn't good.
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...and a hearty FOAD back to you too sir! ;D
Just to be clear, as an adult person you really believe that other people are somehow obligated to wade thru an obstructive individuals self-entertainment psychodrama? Last time I looked this was an enthusiasts "technical" information sharing forum , not a mandatory hand holding session for the emotionally stunted. Pretty sure there are $200/hour professional listeners and drugs for that.
Oh, I'm sorry, I came here to complain and looking for Abuse 😉
https://youtu.be/xpAvcGcEc0k
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Oh, I'm sorry, I came here to complain and looking for Abuse 😉
https://youtu.be/xpAvcGcEc0k
No you didn't.
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...and a hearty FOAD back to you too sir! ;D
Just to be clear, as an adult person you really believe that other people are somehow obligated to wade thru an obstructive individuals self-entertainment psychodrama? Last time I looked this was an enthusiasts "technical" information sharing forum, not a mandatory hand holding session for the emotionally stunted. Pretty sure there are $200/hour professional listeners and drugs for that.
I don't see the obligation (or the 'psychodrama' for that matter). Just scroll on by, or block the poster, if you find his content objectionable. Also, I didn't get the 'this is a forum for technical information sharing only', memo. Perhaps I didn't look hard enough.
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Guys, can we just let this thread die? The direction it's going isn't good.
This seems to be a good suggestion.
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No you didn't.
Sounds like "You want 12A, next door." 🤗
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This seems to be a good suggestion.
+1. And I started this thread.
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Reply #127: I don't see the obligation...Also, I didn't get the 'this is a forum for technical information sharing only', memo.
Most folks here aren't real interested in confrontation, hence the admonishment to not continue. However, your asocial response leaves it an open question that we've actually communicated.
It's not "I don't see the obligation", it's "I won't see (or perhaps acknowledge) the obligation". It's pretty clear that everyone else is trying to get along and keep debate on an even keel, not warp it for personal recreation. And adding an "only" to my original quote was nicely revisionist, but not particularly truthful. You're a sharp guy, sharp enough to modify a quote to alter the meaning of a quote by adding a word, so obviously sharp enough to understand the social contract we live under.
https://iep.utm.edu/soc-cont/#:~:text=Social%20contract%20theory%2C%20nearly%20as,society%20in%20which%20they%20live.
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+1. And I started this thread.
No you didn't.
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Sounds like "You want 12A, next door." 🤗
Sorry,I'm not arguing any more .
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Sorry,I'm not arguing any more .
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Reply #127: I don't see the obligation...Also, I didn't get the 'this is a forum for technical information sharing only', memo.
... sharp enough to modify a quote to alter the meaning of a quote by adding a word
Not sharp. Just fuggin sneaky.
But I suppose plain lies count as free speech for some.
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Enough already!
This is a forum about motorcycles, not getting the last word. If you want to bicker, take it to messages. Otherwise, own being the problem and get over it.
Speaking of which, where did this Hall Monitor badge come from?
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Enough already!
This is a forum about motorcycles, not getting the last word. If you want to bicker, take it to messages. Otherwise, own being the problem and get over it.
Speaking of which, where did this Hall Monitor badge come from?
If everyone keeps bumping it, we should be able to keep it alive indefinitely…
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If everyone keeps bumping it, we should be able to keep it alive indefinitely…
I've been following this thread with great interest but held my opinion until now ...
I think Pedro was a wonderful chap and a real asset to the forum.
James on the other hand appears to be a spoilt school boy who only accepts the things he likes and kicks and screams when he doesn't get his own way.
Come on crew let's start a movement to get Pedro back and all of the anti Pedro people banned.
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I've been following this thread with great interest but held my opinion until now ...
I think Pedro was a wonderful chap and a real asset to the forum.
James on the other hand appears to be a spoilt school boy who only accepts the things he likes and kicks and screams when he doesn't get his own way.
Come on crew let's start a movement to get Pedro back and all of the anti Pedro people banned.
Welcome back, Pedro!!
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this entire thread has turned more hilarious and sad than the pedro stuff. i guess in the end, pedro won!
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It’s interesting to see what internet bantering can turn into when the participants meet in real life. The anonymity of the web usually assures that this would never happen.
I work for a traveling automotive event series, and one of the components of our events is a car show. This past weekend at one of our shows, I got a radio call that two guys were about to start fighting. I grabbed a security officer and ran over.
We found two guys yelling at each other, insulting each other and, not joking, threatening too poop in each other’s cars. Turns out they had been lobbing insults at each other on a forum for that particular type of car. When they realized that they had both shown up at the same show, the fun began.
Both of them looked like they spent little time out of their Mom’s basements. We settled the argument but it was hard to hold back the laughter.
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I am glad Pedro is no longer here .
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I've been following this thread with great interest but held my opinion until now ...
I think Pedro was a wonderful chap and a real asset to the forum.
James on the other hand appears to be a spoilt school boy who only accepts the things he likes and kicks and screams when he doesn't get his own way.
Come on crew let's start a movement to get Pedro back and all of the anti Pedro people banned.
Do you realise that Pedro came on here called Royal Enfield a crap quality motorcycle and urged potential buyers not to buy one.But this is the best bit it's not what he got banned for.😆
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this entire thread has turned more hilarious and sad than the pedro stuff. i guess in the end, pedro won!
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No I won he's no longer here and we now have the benefit to identify all the Pedro clones coming out the woodwork in his defence.
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No you didn't.
What school did you go to?
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I am glad Pedro is no longer here .
+1
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I've been following this thread with great interest but held my opinion until now ...
I think Pedro was a wonderful chap and a real asset to the forum.
James on the other hand appears to be a spoilt school boy who only accepts the things he likes and kicks and screams when he doesn't get his own way.
Come on crew let's start a movement to get Pedro back and all of the anti Pedro people banned.
Alright here's an opportunity to tell members WHY you think Pedro should still be here.Hes come on here Posted Royal Enfield is a crap motorcycle and one of his posts urged potential buyers not to buy one.So let us know the reasons he should still be here.
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+1 for #145 thru #150.
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I am glad Pedro is no longer here .
I kinda miss messing with him ;D
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Do you realise that Pedro came on here called Royal Enfield a crap quality motorcycle and urged potential buyers not to buy one.But this is the best bit it's not what he got banned for.😆
pedro isn't even here anymore and yet youre still talking about them. so i'd say he's won.
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pedro isn't even here anymore and yet youre still talking about them. so i'd say he's won.
Well, he's won the distinction of being talked about as a bad example.
I was surprised to run across some old posts of his that seemed at least somewhat constructive. But I'm not interested enough to dig through old posts to see what happened. He got toxic enough that I'm glad he's gone.
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What school did you go to?
I went to the Intybe post124 and Hoiho post 137 schools of comedy where we were trained to have a sense of humour.
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Glad somebody gets it :)
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pedro isn't even here anymore and yet youre still talking about them. so i'd say he's won.
Naw. This current crap will die down and he still won't be here, and in the end maybe every once in a while someone will bring up that piece of shit that did nothing but whine and bash the brand...
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OEM general Rules of the Road from the wayback:
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Oh, I'm sorry, I came here to complain and looking for Abuse 😉
https://youtu.be/xpAvcGcEc0k
Brilliant post reminding us of Monty Python. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to have lost a sense of the ridiculous nowadays.
ps although even John Cleese seemed to get a bit 'up himself' in later years.
Sorry if I digress - what was the thread about anyway !
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pedro isn't even here anymore and yet youre still talking about them. so i'd say he's won.
Well there's not many of you thank god.Were you the guy who complained about a dealer giving you a total replacement bike because you had a faulty one.?
Still being talked about.
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Alright here's an opportunity to tell members WHY you think Pedro should still be here.Hes come on here Posted Royal Enfield is a crap motorcycle and one of his posts urged potential buyers not to buy one.So let us know the reasons he should still be here.
Post #124, nailed it.
Post #137, could I have the full half hour please.
While educational, forum activity should be a laugh and Pedro was fodder for such.
Me thinks, James takes life and himself way too seriously.
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Well there's not many of you thank god.Were you the guy who complained about a dealer giving you a total replacement bike because you had a faulty one.?
Still being talked about.
yep thats me! a testament to me remaining faithful to the brand!
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Post #124, nailed it.
Post #137, could I have the full half hour please.
While educational, forum activity should be a laugh and Pedro was fodder for such.
Me thinks, James takes life and himself way too seriously.
Me thinks.
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Kudos James.
11 pages! 8)
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If you are upset or have had one too many pints of ale or wine, please consider waiting before you push the send button.
Pints of wine! When men were men!
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Pints of wine! When men were men!
Bring me your finest box of wine. 🍷
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Pints of wine!
The single serve size…
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The single serve size…
A pint is hardly sufficient for proper quaffing. We require a hogshead at a minimum.
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This forum is proper vanilla. Not saying that that is necessarily bad, but compared to most I (occasionally) post on, this is definitely more mumsnet than stormfront. The likes of James (try mumsnet, James, it will undoubtedly appeal to you) and ozcal retred (soz if I got that wrong) would have this board sanitised to their bland, overreaching liking. Bring back the biff!!
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Sounds like you're in it for the aggravation potential, not the content, stirring the shit across multiple formats just to get a fix. I think most people here are tired of being goaded by recreational provocateurs and just want to enjoy & share their chosen hobby with like minded others. Information presented in a deliberate, reasoned manner has a wider audience. OK "AresLXIV"?
"The surname of MARTZ is of Spanish origin, a baptismal name 'the son of Martin' belonging to Mars, the God of war."
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This forum is proper vanilla. Not saying that that is necessarily bad, but compared to most I (occasionally) post on, this is definitely more mumsnet than stormfront. The likes of James (try mumsnet, James, it will undoubtedly appeal to you) and ozcal retred (soz if I got that wrong) would have this board sanitised to their bland, overreaching liking. Bring back the biff!!
You need to accept that Pedro was banned for a reason.This site depends on Royal Enfield members sharing information and giving advice on their love of the brand.