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Royal Enfield Motorcycles => Bullet with the UCE engine => Topic started by: dhanisch on March 08, 2010, 01:15:59 pm

Title: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: dhanisch on March 08, 2010, 01:15:59 pm
Weird.  I did the 300 mile 1st oil change after laying the bike up for the long, long winter.  I put in 2 liters of oil, which completely filled the bloody sight window.  Rode the bike a bit, rechecked.  Still above the sight window.  Drained oil out to the point where the level dropped to the upper mark.  Rode a few miles; waited a few minutes then rechecked the level.  now the level is at the lower mark.  Added oil to just below top mark, restarted engine.  Now the level is back ABOVE the sight window.  What gives?  Like someone else, the small o-ring on the filter housing is missing, would that have anything to do with this strangeness.  And yes, it WAS on the Center stand.
Input appreciated.
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: t120rbullet on March 08, 2010, 01:24:45 pm
Don't beat yourself up too bad. It's a PITA to get it just right. It's real easy to overfill it.
I usually fill it up real slow and stop just when it reaches the bottom of the window.
Take it out for a ride and check it later.
CJ 
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: singhg5 on March 08, 2010, 03:56:56 pm
As CJ has pointed out don't sweat too much.  After several oil changes on my G5, I pour in carefully measured 1.7 to 1.8 liters of oil and it reaches UPPER mark on the window.  Any more than that, even 0.2 liters (200 ml), will pass the top of window.  With 1.8 liters of oil, you can safely ride and the oil level will stay within upper and lower marks (closer to upper).

When draining old oil, It is a good idea to tilt the bike to the left and then right to remove all the dirty oil.  Some owners gently kick with foot once or twice, without starting the engine, to remove oil from the engine.  Also wet the clean oil filter before replacement.

Happy riding. 



Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: dhanisch on March 08, 2010, 04:26:22 pm
Thanks guys, I did everything  but stand the little beast on it's head to get all the oil out.  Love the bike, including the hair-pulling Brit design cues.  The whole oil filter deal is absurd.  How may parts to make the whole?  Reminds me of my Lee-Enfield rifles.  Why use one part when you can use 6?
Will drain a bit more out and pray.  How about the little o-ring in the filter housing cover?  Does it actually DO anything?
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: csbdr on March 08, 2010, 06:43:19 pm
I'd been essentially running without the o-ring, as mine tore at some point and I'm sure wasn't sealing anything.  My dealer, who specializes in classic brit iron, can't think of a single reason why that thing is there, and advised leaving it off.  No problems so far....
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: ScooterBob on March 08, 2010, 10:19:11 pm
This is the fix for that pesky oil filter cap ...... It's available from CMW - No more torn o-ring and filter bypassing! - Plus - You'll not risk turning the bike over to compress the darn spring .....  ;)
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: r80rt on March 08, 2010, 10:22:51 pm
How do I get one of those handy dandy items?
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: hocko on March 08, 2010, 11:30:36 pm
Are they a locally sourced item ie US, is there a part number or reference I could make enquires locally here in Oz, failing that a price for the item.

Thanks

 :)
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: singhg5 on March 09, 2010, 04:13:39 am
Thanks guys, I did everything  but stand the little beast on it's head to get all the oil out.  Love the bike, including the hair-pulling Brit design cues.  The whole oil filter deal is absurd.  How may parts to make the whole?  Reminds me of my Lee-Enfield rifles.  Why use one part when you can use 6?
Will drain a bit more out and pray.  How about the little o-ring in the filter housing cover?  Does it actually DO anything?

The oil filter design is certainly very REish - Well, if it was not, it will be too Japanese !  How else would your hands get dirty ? ;D There is not much else to tweak - I mean valves, points, carburator, etc. Strange but without these niggling parts, touching and caressing, there will be no bonding with the bike.

Some one has to sell 6 other parts and rags too and RE makes sure they don't go out of business  ;D.  
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: dhanisch on March 09, 2010, 01:19:34 pm
Good point.  Here's to spare parts.
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: ScooterBob on March 09, 2010, 03:38:20 pm
How do I get one of those handy dandy items?

Part number Z91501 for the G5 - part number Z91502 for the C5. Either one for $39.95. That will be the END of the miserable filter changing on the UCE engine .... it'll be .... EASY after you get one!! Hahaha!!
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: thefieldworker on March 09, 2010, 08:18:51 pm
Fantastic! I will be ordering one right away. That oil filter cap has been truly annoying. Thank you for pointing out this part, Scooter Bob.

Now why can't I find this part on the website?
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: hocko on March 09, 2010, 10:07:55 pm
Part number Z91501 for the G5 - part number Z91502 for the C5. Either one for $39.95. That will be the END of the miserable filter changing on the UCE engine .... it'll be .... EASY after you get one!! Hahaha!!

ScooterBob, is this a genuine RE part or an aftermarket item, just thinking that if it's genuine RE I should be able to get it from the Aussie Distributor.

Thanks again  :)
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: Ice on March 10, 2010, 01:14:55 am
 All of the sight glasses I have seen to date have tiny "bleed holes" in the metal behind the glass.
 It is customary for the sight glass level ( indicated ) to lag behind the actual fluid level by several to many seconds as the actual fluid level changes.

The thicker the fluid, the longer the wait for accurate indication.
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: ScooterBob on March 10, 2010, 01:24:38 am
ScooterBob, is this a genuine RE part or an aftermarket item, just thinking that if it's genuine RE I should be able to get it from the Aussie Distributor.

Thanks again  :)

This is a genuine ScooterBob Part! I made this out of utter frustration at the OEM design - we are the only ones to have it to date. It's SO new it isn't on the website yet .... It is composed of all OEM RE parts except for one screw ....
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: r80rt on March 10, 2010, 03:26:08 am
Thanks Bob  ;)
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: hocko on March 10, 2010, 05:01:13 am
This is a genuine ScooterBob Part! I made this out of utter frustration at the OEM design - we are the only ones to have it to date. It's SO new it isn't on the website yet .... It is composed of all OEM RE parts except for one screw ....

It's definately a must have, I've never brought anything on the internet or from overseas, is anyone here able to tell me how I would get a genuine ScooterBob part paid for and set down under, please don't tell me about paypal or anything like that I just can't follow it, cash , cheque or mastercard are the only methods I know. Dumb as dog sh#t I know, but that's the way I am. ???

Cheers all and thanks  :)


Oh and by the way how much ScooterBob?  In USD is fine my daughter can convert

Cheers
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: ScooterBob on March 10, 2010, 06:24:43 pm
It's definately a must have, I've never brought anything on the internet or from overseas, is anyone here able to tell me how I would get a genuine ScooterBob part paid for and set down under, please don't tell me about paypal or anything like that I just can't follow it, cash , cheque or mastercard are the only methods I know. Dumb as dog sh#t I know, but that's the way I am. ???

Cheers all and thanks  :)


Oh and by the way how much ScooterBob?  In USD is fine my daughter can convert

Cheers

From the previous post:

Part number Z91501 for the G5 - part number Z91502 for the C5. Either one for $39.95. That will be the END of the miserable filter changing on the UCE engine .... it'll be .... EASY after you get one!! Hahaha!!

The old MasterCard works just fine as well - just email "customerservice@enfieldmotorcycles.com" to get going with that. I think you'll like how easy the oil change on this bike will suddenly become!  ;)
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: hocko on March 10, 2010, 10:40:21 pm
Again thanks ScooterBob, I'll get going with the email as soon as the daughter returns my creditcard  :o  BTW what is your price on oil filters, just curious to compare to the prices being quoted here. It might be cheaper in the long run to just get one bulk order etc.

Take care all  :)
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: ScooterBob on March 11, 2010, 12:42:37 pm
Well - So much for me copying the picture out of the online store ... you get the idea though! these kits come with ALL the "pesky o-rings" and stuff you need to do the job RIGHT ..... It's in the online store .... I swear ......  ::)

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Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: Gypsyjon on February 11, 2013, 09:30:53 pm
Part number Z91501 for the G5 - part number Z91502 for the C5. Either one for $39.95. That will be the END of the miserable filter changing on the UCE engine .... it'll be .... EASY after you get one!! Hahaha!!

Does any one know if this is still available??

Who is CMW??
TIA

Gypsyjon
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: Arizoni on February 11, 2013, 09:50:00 pm
CMW is Classic Motor Works, the company that imports the Royal Enfield.

The nfieldgear button in the upper left column is their store here in the USA.
(Although you can order things on line there it is a much better idea to call them at their 1-800-358-0938 phone number and speak directly with them.  There are a lot of things their store shows that are not in stock and may take months to get.)

CMW is owned by Kevin McHoney who also owns this web site.
He visits this site often to see what we are doing/saying and often joins into discussions.
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: mattsz on February 11, 2013, 10:32:11 pm
CMW is owned by Kevin McHoney who also owns this web site.

Arizoni - nice one... Freudian slip?
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: Ducati Scotty on February 11, 2013, 10:50:06 pm
Does any one know if this is still available??

Who is CMW??
TIA

Gypsyjon

If you have a later UCE bike you probably already have one.  They were incorporated into the production bikes early and I don't think they ever went back to the old style that could fly apart if you let go before you got it all together.

Scott
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: Arizoni on February 12, 2013, 04:28:38 am
Arizoni - nice one... Freudian slip?

No.  Foot in Mouth disease.
It should be Mahoney  :-[
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: gremlin on February 12, 2013, 05:25:37 am
...........It should be Mahoney.......

not alot of difference there.
Title: Re: Oil Levels Revisited.
Post by: Tri750 on February 12, 2013, 07:00:48 am
Does any one know if this is still available??

Who is CMW??
TIA
If I remember correctly, the 10's were hit and miss on the improved cap. I'm pretty sure we have them at the shop. Email or call me Tues. for a forum member price.
Al@bmwoffresno.com or 559-292-2269 ask for al
Gypsyjon