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Reply #30 on: July 05, 2024, 09:22:05 am
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Glad and happy i Cange to Belt-Drive on my Super Meteor 650


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Reply #31 on: July 15, 2024, 05:57:59 pm
RSTech Royal Enfield belt drive conversion kits are to be stocked in the UK, and distributed worldwide by Hitchcock's Motorcycles Ltd.

Hitchcock's need no introduction as they are the premier Royal Enfield parts and engineering development house since 1948, with an unrivaled stock of parts, and technical support to Royal Enfield enthusiasts worldwide.  RSTech is honoured to have been chosen by Hitchcock's to be their supplier of belt drive conversion kits for the Interceptor / Continental 650, and Super Meteor / Shotgun 650 models.

We are running parts for Hitchcock's now, and expect to dispatch stock to the UK shortly

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Reply #32 on: July 16, 2024, 03:45:19 am
You just sold (to me) a Kit for the Super Meter (High Gear) .

Before Hitchcock's mark-up gets into the mix ...

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Reply #33 on: July 16, 2024, 03:56:29 am
You just sold (to me) a Kit for the Super Meter (High Gear) .

Before Hitchcock's mark-up gets into the mix ...

Enjoy, and I appreciate your trust in the product and support.

You did get it a little cheaper, but the price has risen worldwide due to the same increasing input cost excuse you hear everyday, and not just due to our Hitchcock's distribution agreement.  In fact we are expecting a belt increase next production run.................
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Reply #34 on: July 16, 2024, 05:34:42 am
If I ever need a new belt can I order from Gates directly ?

I had a Suzuki LS650 for a Really Loooong time ... the Rear pulley is what wore-out at about 50k miles.
It was a 1.5" wide , 14mm pitch , Squair notch belt , with 23/68 tooth pulleys.
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Reply #35 on: July 16, 2024, 06:27:01 am
If I ever need a new belt can I order from Gates directly ?

I had a Suzuki LS650 for a Really Loooong time ... the Rear pulley is what wore-out at about 50k miles.
It was a 1.5" wide , 14mm pitch , Squair notch belt , with 23/68 tooth pulleys.

No worries and it is a standard Gates Poly Chain Carbon GT belt part 14MGT-1890-20, and a lot different than the older generation belts
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Reply #36 on: August 08, 2024, 03:45:32 am
Ya'll want to see a thing of  beauty ?     This came in the the brown (UPS) truck today ... it's the 2.5 ratio .   See the ART WORK in the rear pulley design ?    8)

The second one is the Belt for the 350-J   it has the 11mm pitch belt. it only comes in standard ratio ...
« Last Edit: August 08, 2024, 03:58:11 am by MMRanch »
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Reply #37 on: August 08, 2024, 06:08:18 am
One kit uses a genuine 14mm pitch Gates Poly Chain Carbon GT belt with high tensile carbon fiber cords, and the latest Gen 4 curvilinear tooth profile - this is rather important. 
The lightened front pulley, is machined in one piece from a billet of high tensile steel, induction hardened for wear at both the splines and teeth, and finally black zinc plated for corrosion protection.  The rear pulley is not only a design exercise, but is engineered for optimum strength at minimal weight, fully machined from a solid billet of aircraft grade (6061-T6) aluminium, then Type 3 Hard anodized for wear.  Teeth on both pullies are fully machined using a custom CNC ground cutter to provide the proper tooth shape to mate with the Gates belt teeth.

The other is none of those things.............
Quality matters.

BTW, I am the guy that makes the beautiful, properly engineered ones that you would be proud to run on your bike.  We are Engineers, as well as motorcyclists, and recognise that not every rider wants the stock final drive ratio, so there is a choice of ratios - a "38T" rear mod for the Super Meteor / Shotgun, and the "16T" front mod for the Interceptor / Continental at:
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Reply #38 on: August 11, 2024, 03:01:42 am
Yes , and it's pleasing to the eye too !   ;)

Good job guys !!

...............

Hay here is something to check in on for you fellers :

The 350-J bikes use a sprocket like the 650 Interceptor does , the front sprocket that came on the 350 Meteor was a 15 tooth and I replaced it with a 16 tooth.
The 650 Meteor came with a 15 tooth and I replaced it with a 16 tooth also ... both the 350 and the 650 sprockets are identical twins ,
so
 
If the rear sprocket would fit both the 350 and the 650 Interceptor (they look the same) then there are a lot of sales waiting to be had over on the 350-J page  ? 
I toyed with the idea of using a 650 Interceptor Belt system on my 350-Meteor ...  If I'd know the 350 belt was 11mm instead of 14mm then I would have investigated it further.   Both chains are the same length too.   :)
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Reply #39 on: August 11, 2024, 03:30:39 am
Yes , and it's pleasing to the eye too !   ;)

Good job guys !!

...............

Hay here is something to check in on for you fellers :

The 350-J bikes use a sprocket like the 650 Interceptor does , the front sprocket that came on the 350 Meteor was a 15 tooth and I replaced it with a 16 tooth.
The 650 Meteor came with a 15 tooth and I replaced it with a 16 tooth also ... both the 350 and the 650 sprockets are identical twins ,
so
 
If the rear sprocket would fit both the 350 and the 650 Interceptor then there are a lot of sales waiting to be had over on the 350-J page  ? 
I toyed with the idea of using a 650 Interceptor Belt system on my 350-Meteor ...  If I'd know the 350 belt was 11mm instead of 14mm then I would have investigated it further.   Both chains are the same length too.   :)

The problem with using the preferred Gates Poly Chain Carbon GT belt is that the front case on the 350J bikes is too small to fit the pulley OD, if one is to say within the Gates engineering requirements for minimum tooth engagement and minimum bending radius.  I asked Gates engineering about this and the response was "not recommended and belt life will be dismal".  That is why we do not make a 350J kit  using this belt, regardless of demand and market size.

It could be done with a cheaper belt, or the (unfortunately OEM only) Gates Moto X9 belt.  Even if the aftermarket could buy the Moto x9, then there is the problem of replacement belts - the 14mm Poly Chain Carbon Gt is a common industrial part
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Reply #40 on: August 11, 2024, 03:38:25 am
BTW, you will need to buy a belt tension tool to properly set belt tension - the finger method I see on the net is not the best way, and proper tension and alignment is key to belt and pulley life.  I have had belt drives since the 80's and while I have a bit of experience with the finger method, I still use the 1985 HD tool..........

Several choices including HD, Motion Pro, OTC, and a host of generic versions
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Reply #41 on: August 11, 2024, 05:34:17 am
Hay  :)

I have a belt tension gauge ,
so
Is it 10 pounds and 20mm ?

There might be a utube video for instructions.

 
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Reply #42 on: August 11, 2024, 05:46:49 am
Hay  :)

I have a belt tension gauge ,
so
Is it 10 pounds and 20mm ?

There might be a utube video for instructions.

Both alignment and tension is critical -17-18mm at 10lbs, applied midspan, with you sitting on the bike
Instructions and videos at royalenfieldbeltdrive.com
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Reply #43 on: August 12, 2024, 02:21:44 am
 

Thanks ,

I'm waiting for the wear bars on the rear tire to make their way to the top so I can do the Tire and Belt at the same time .    I'm retired but still have no time to spare it seems like  ...  :)
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Reply #44 on: August 24, 2024, 07:19:01 pm
RSTech Royal Enfield belt drive conversion kit inventory is now dispatched to Hitchcock's Motorcycles in the UK.
UK stock and shipping of belt final drive conversion kits for both the Super Meteor / Shotgun and the Interceptor / Continental.  Hitchcock's need no introduction to Royal Enfield enthusiasts, and RSTech is honoured to have been chosen by Hitchcock's to be their supplier of high quality belt drive conversion kits.

Hitchcock's also host this forum.............
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