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on: November 30, 2022, 03:28:09 am
Topped off my '21 Interceptor today after 155 miles.  I always fill to the top fill mark on the filler neck, shake the bike a bit to remove any air bubbles.   Used 2.1 US gallons to reach the mark.   74 miles per gallon.  Not unusual for this bike, lately.   I ride easily, cruise at no more than 3600 rpm (60 mph) and acceleration rarely sees above 4000 rpm.  Gas today in Central Texas was $2.63/gallon.  Throttle response indicates no evidence of an overly lean mixture. 

Are others getting this sort of fuel economy?  Bike has 5200 miles since I bought it new, just 2 years ago. 

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Reply #1 on: November 30, 2022, 03:49:42 am
1… at 60mph in my top gear I’m turning about 3800 rpm (as measured by factory tach)
2… best tank I have ever gotten was 64 mpg US. I average 57 mpg US… currently I’m getting 52 mpg US….
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Reply #2 on: November 30, 2022, 04:21:13 am
1… at 60mph in my top gear I’m turning about 3800 rpm (as measured by factory tach)
2… best tank I have ever gotten was 64 mpg US. I average 57 mpg US… currently I’m getting 52 mpg US….
That sounds pretty much like my experience.
I have gotten as low as 52 and as high as 66. Mostly in the high 50s.
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Reply #3 on: November 30, 2022, 05:05:03 am
That sounds pretty much like my experience.
I have gotten as low as 52 and as high as 66. Mostly in the high 50s.


Oh man…. I was hoping it was the 20w-50 v-twin oil in my crank case and switching to a 5w-40 or a 0w-40 would fix that…
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Reply #4 on: November 30, 2022, 05:32:13 am
1… at 60mph in my top gear I’m turning about 3800 rpm (as measured by factory tach)
2… best tank I have ever gotten was 64 mpg US. I average 57 mpg US… currently I’m getting 52 mpg US….

Running a 16T I’m averaging 60mpg US, worst 57.7, best 69. Bike isn’t nursed, but isn’t flogged constantly either.
I’m not surprised by Ralph’s economy, that’s extremely gentle riding.


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Reply #5 on: November 30, 2022, 06:51:16 am
Running a 16T I’m averaging 60mpg US, worst 57.7, best 69. Bike isn’t nursed, but isn’t flogged constantly either.
I’m not surprised by Ralph’s economy, that’s extremely gentle riding.

Stock gearing and otherwise same as you about 25lm/l or so.  Don't review it out much but use wide throttle openings when hustling.  I have never been one to get great fuel economy.  Even so, there are numerous claims of 30km/l plus I assume it it just tootling and minimal acceleration.
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Reply #6 on: November 30, 2022, 08:26:48 am
i average about 18m/l ( approx 70-75 mpg in UK gallons) that is about 27km/l??? Usually a combination of normal town riding with a bit of faster riding (70 - 80 mph) where roads allow.... i don't commute and its only used for fun rides out in good weather (when it decides to run properly...I only use super unleaded with 5% ethanol as it does'nt run well on the 10% stuff!!  :( ) however here in the UK we are going into winter so I cant see much riding now until there is a break in the wet weather lol. 


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Reply #7 on: November 30, 2022, 08:55:39 am
i average about 18m/l ( approx 70-75 mpg in UK gallons) that is about 27km/l??? Usually a combination of normal town riding with a bit of faster riding (70 - 80 mph) where roads allow.... i don't commute and its only used for fun rides out in good weather (when it decides to run properly...I only use super unleaded with 5% ethanol as it does'nt run well on the 10% stuff!!  :( ) however here in the UK we are going into winter so I cant see much riding now until there is a break in the wet weather lol.
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Reply #8 on: November 30, 2022, 09:02:01 am
I get about 70-80 mpg (Imperial gallons) which is 60-70 mpg (US).  Seems pretty good to me.


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Reply #9 on: November 30, 2022, 10:05:47 am
I had to  use my calulator for this. In US gallons the best my bike will do is 66,24 mpg.


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Reply #10 on: November 30, 2022, 10:59:07 am

What's the "top fill mark"?

My filler neck has no marks.

Overfilling is a bad thing..(charcoal canister)

I fill with the bike on the side stand, and only until the fuel contacts (barely) the BOTTOM of the neck.

If I run low on fuel, we have these things around here called "Gas stations" where they will put more fuel into the tank for you.

If you're crossing the Gobi desert or the like, that extra 2 ounces of fuel isn't going to make much of a difference!


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Topped off my '21 Interceptor today after 155 miles.  I always fill to the top fill mark on the filler neck, shake the bike a bit to remove any air bubbles.   Used 2.1 US gallons to reach the mark.   74 miles per gallon.  Not unusual for this bike, lately.   I ride easily, cruise at no more than 3600 rpm (60 mph) and acceleration rarely sees above 4000 rpm.  Gas today in Central Texas was $2.63/gallon.  Throttle response indicates no evidence of an overly lean mixture. 

Are others getting this sort of fuel economy?  Bike has 5200 miles since I bought it new, just 2 years ago. 

Ralph


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Reply #11 on: November 30, 2022, 12:43:04 pm
What's the "top fill mark"?

My filler neck has no marks.

Overfilling is a bad thing..(charcoal canister)



I fill with the bike on the side stand, and only until the fuel contacts (barely) the BOTTOM of the neck.

If I run low on fuel, we have these things around here called "Gas stations" where they will put more fuel into the tank for you.

If you're crossing the Gobi desert or the like, that extra 2 ounces of fuel isn't going to make much of a difference!


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I fill every morning on my way to work on the center stand to the top pin hole on the right side of the splash guard. That first half gallon is gone before it even has a chance to sit around.
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Reply #12 on: November 30, 2022, 01:05:45 pm
I regularly see over 70mpg (UK). Best I've seen is 77mpg and that was a ride into and out of London due to a train strike. The rest was motorway and fast A roads.
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Reply #13 on: November 30, 2022, 01:33:36 pm
 183 miles to empty on my 16 tooth INT. I start looking for gas at 150 miles to be safe.


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Reply #14 on: November 30, 2022, 01:37:31 pm
that's overfill!  You will get liquid gas into your charcoal canister....then you can suck raw fuel into your engine when the purge valve opens.

Do you really need those 4 ounces?

Do it your way, who cares?

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I fill every morning on my way to work on the center stand to the top pin hole on the right side of the splash guard. That first half gallon is gone before it even has a chance to sit around.


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Reply #15 on: November 30, 2022, 01:53:15 pm





Here is what the manual says.....

If you think you know better then do it your way!


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Reply #16 on: November 30, 2022, 02:52:22 pm
I get exactly 65.00534 miles to the Arizona gallon. I usually fill to 2/79 inch measured from the bottom of the filler neck using a Mykota precision caliper calibrated at a NASA research facility. Compensated by temperature and average humidity, of course.
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Reply #17 on: November 30, 2022, 11:42:45 pm
I get exactly 65.00534 miles to the Arizona gallon. I usually fill to 2/79 inch measured from the bottom of the filler neck using a Mykota precision caliper calibrated at a NASA research facility. Compensated by temperature and average humidity, of course.

Mitutoyo, maybe?

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Reply #18 on: December 01, 2022, 12:34:12 am
Mitutoyo, maybe?

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Reply #19 on: December 01, 2022, 02:24:26 am
Correct. Gibberish is my native language.

I searched up Mykota in case there was a measuring tool brand I hadn't heard of worth considering. You can't have too many measuring tools.

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Reply #20 on: December 01, 2022, 02:58:23 am





Here is what the manual says.....

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Wow man… I’ve never read an owners manual before. Thank you for pointing out the error in my ways. I will make maximum effort to change my ways so you can be vindicated in the eyes of everybody reads this thread
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Reply #21 on: December 01, 2022, 03:09:23 am
Dude....take a chill pill.....fill the gas way up the neck if it makes you happy!


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Wow man… I’ve never read an owners manual before. Thank you for pointing out the error in my ways. I will make maximum effort to change my ways so you can be vindicated in the eyes of everybody reads this thread


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Reply #22 on: December 01, 2022, 10:51:01 am
Dude....take a chill pill.....fill the gas way up the neck if it makes you happy!


Cookie

Dude, you’re the one that had to make 3 posts about why you’re right. Maybe you are. Maybe it could happen… but in the dozens of fuel injected cars and bikes I’ve had it hasn’t happened yet. I’m not worried about it… but that extra 2 liters makes a difference on the cruising range. I have literally run out of gas under the sign that says “gas 1 mile”
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Reply #23 on: December 01, 2022, 11:27:11 am
Poor planning?  ;D


I have literally run out of gas under the sign that says “gas 1 mile”
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Reply #24 on: December 01, 2022, 11:42:05 am
Dude....take a chill pill.....fill the gas way up the neck if it makes you happy!


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What about the GT without a centre stand?
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Reply #25 on: December 01, 2022, 12:53:48 pm
not sure I understand the question.

My INT has no center stand.  I just fill until the gas just barley comes up to the "splash guard".   The angle of the bike makes almost no difference.

we are talking plus or minus like 1 or 2 ounces here......not to worry!

Some guys fill the tank while sitting on the bike, thus the bike is level.

In the event of a drip or  spill...that's raw gas in the crotch.    hmmmm

(I've had leaky hoses too)

In the very rare chance of fire.....hot crotch?

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Reply #26 on: December 01, 2022, 12:56:07 pm
https://rotopax.com/1-gallon-gasoline.html


for my friends who have "range anxiety"

I use one of these on my Super Cub, which has only a one gallon tank and 100 mile range (on a good day)


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Reply #27 on: December 01, 2022, 01:27:11 pm
not sure I understand the question.

My INT has no center stand.  I just fill until the gas just barley comes up to the "splash guard".   The angle of the bike makes almost no difference.

we are talking plus or minus like 1 or 2 ounces here......not to worry!

Some guys fill the tank while sitting on the bike, thus the bike is level.

In the event of a drip or  spill...that's raw gas in the crotch.    hmmmm

(I've had leaky hoses too)

In the very rare chance of fire.....hot crotch?

Cookie
Cookie you almost always spark interesting thoughts.

It is pouring rain here today and forecast to stay for a couple of days so I won't get to check out your premise.
I do agree about the danger of gas-soaking the canister.

That aside for a moment: If on the side stand you fill to about half way up the splash shield. Then stand the bike upright and refill to the same level. The pump will tell you how many tenths of a gallon that takes.
Using 60 mpg (for easy math)... every tenth equals 6 miles.
Remembering that the volume of the tank is greatest above the tunnel inside, widest. Even more so on a INT.
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Reply #28 on: December 01, 2022, 01:52:04 pm
I think its hilarious how we go into such tiny detail about the most boring and mundane subjects. (Myself included) I imagine all forums are the same in that regard.

I just imagine a Barbie doll forum where there are ten pages of threads about whether it is best to dress all your Barbies in winter clothing in December, and if the patterns match, and if they don't, which vendors carry the best quality of Winter Barbie gear, and if the vintage Barbie Winter jacket is superior to the new products, and if is proper to use Barbie underwear, or if you can substitute Chinese underwear since no one sees it, and the approximate thread count for proper Barbie Winter boots, and if there is a substitute for genuine Mattel fabric conditioner, and why Barbie hair has similarities to Congalese Umbatu warrior pubic hair, etc, etc.

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Reply #29 on: December 01, 2022, 01:57:17 pm
What does it matter?  Are you crossing some uninhabited area which has no gas stations?

Are you really counting on that extra 1/10 gallon?  You are cutting it that close?

Go 150 miles then fill up.  (or 100 miles, or 80 miles)

Or ride for 2 hours, then take a stretch break and fill up.

Or fill up when you are on the last mark on the fuel gauge

Or really full up when the gauge starts blinking.

Coming from the world of aviation....we never f-ck around with the fuel...we plan carefully, and allow generous reserve.  We plan fuel stops enroute, and allow for unforeseen problems.

When the slightest doubt, we land and tank up.

Yes idiots still run out of gas in their airplanes!  (because they are stupid)

 
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Cookie you almost always spark interesting thoughts.

It is pouring rain here today and forecast to stay for a couple of days so I won't get to check out your premise.
I do agree about the danger of gas-soaking the canister.

That aside for a moment: If on the side stand you fill to about half way up the splash shield. Then stand the bike upright and refill to the same level. The pump will tell you how many tenths of a gallon that takes.
Using 60 mpg (for easy math)... every tenth equals 6 miles.
Remembering that the volume of the tank is greatest above the tunnel inside, widest. Even more so on a INT.


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Reply #30 on: December 01, 2022, 02:01:24 pm
Once in a while I have to take myself off of  this forum...for a month of so....to regain reality and sanity!

But inane as it is....I find it entertaining!

I've gotten lots of good hints and tips and from this forum.  I wouldn't have figured out by myself.

And some laughs..

Then there is the deep bullshit...

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I think its hilarious how we go into such tiny detail about the most boring and mundane subjects. (Myself included) I imagine all forums are the same in that regard.

I just imagine a Barbie doll forum where there are ten pages of threads about whether it is best to dress all your Barbies in winter clothing in December, and if the patterns match, and if they don't, which vendors carry the best quality of Winter Barbie gear, and if the vintage Barbie Winter jacket is superior to the new products, and if is proper to use Barbie underwear, or if you can substitute Chinese underwear since no one sees it, and the approximate thread count for proper Barbie Winter boots, and if there is a substitute for genuine Mattel fabric conditioner, and why Barbie hair has similarities to Congalese Umbatu warrior pubic hair, etc, etc.

Yes, just this once, I am laughing out loud. Sometimes I make myself laugh.


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Reply #31 on: December 01, 2022, 02:28:47 pm
What about the GT without a centre stand?
You can easily add the center stand to the GT.
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Reply #32 on: December 01, 2022, 03:11:05 pm


Just to get 2 more ounces of fuel?

I know, I know...you prefer the center stand for many other reasons...we already had that thread!



You can easily add the center stand to the GT.


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Reply #33 on: December 01, 2022, 03:20:30 pm
How are you guys measuring this mpg.Is it full tank miles to empty tank.?
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Reply #34 on: December 01, 2022, 03:46:52 pm
I measure full at precisely 2.34mm from the bottom of the filler neck to empty with precisely .43 gallons as measured using a precision laboratory calibrated beaker.


After that, I fill it using the rhythm method.
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Reply #35 on: December 01, 2022, 04:04:29 pm
I measure full at precisely 2.34mm from the bottom of the filler neck to empty with precisely .43 gallons as measured using a precision laboratory calibrated beaker.


After that, I fill it using the rhythm method.
Bullshit.What about the specific gravity and temperature allowance not to mention the variation of tank size manufacturing depth  tolerance within +or - 5mm.
(Lucky Phil were only joking)
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Reply #36 on: December 01, 2022, 04:24:00 pm
You can easily add the center stand to the GT.
What about those that don't want to, they are being discriminated against at an instruction manual level.
Jess, before you fitted your centre stand, how did you know where and how much fuel to put in without the bike self destructing in a ball of flame.
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Reply #37 on: December 01, 2022, 04:27:49 pm
Bullshit.What about the specific gravity and temperature allowance not to mention the variation of tank size manufacturing depth  tolerance within +or - 5mm.
(Lucky Phil were only joking)


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Reply #38 on: December 01, 2022, 04:33:23 pm
For those who are scared about missing the last petrol station.


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Reply #39 on: December 01, 2022, 04:37:20 pm

I humbly bow to your higher level of bullshit. I am not worthy.
I have seen your other posts your the king.🤪
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Reply #40 on: December 01, 2022, 04:37:36 pm
That's how I carry my emergency tequila here in Arizona.
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Reply #41 on: December 01, 2022, 04:52:51 pm
That's how I carry my emergency tequila here in Arizona.
Not sufficient, just good for half a gallon.


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Reply #42 on: December 01, 2022, 05:06:04 pm
How are you guys measuring this mpg.Is it full tank miles to empty tank.?
Just set trip meter to 0 at fill up. Then at next fill up divide number of miles by number of gallons. (Km & liters if applicable). Repeat across several fuel stops and find average.
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Reply #43 on: December 01, 2022, 05:06:30 pm
What does it matter?  Are you crossing some uninhabited area which has no gas stations?

Are you really counting on that extra 1/10 gallon?  You are cutting it that close?

Go 150 miles then fill up.  (or 100 miles, or 80 miles)

Or ride for 2 hours, then take a stretch break and fill up.

Or fill up when you are on the last mark on the fuel gauge

Or really full up when the gauge starts blinking.

Coming from the world of aviation....we never f-ck around with the fuel...we plan carefully, and allow generous reserve.  We plan fuel stops enroute, and allow for unforeseen problems.

When the slightest doubt, we land and tank up.

Yes idiots still run out of gas in their airplanes!  (because they are stupid)
 
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Yes. Yes, I ride in areas without gas stations.
I anticipate that your answer will be ~ well, just don't go there.
Sadly, for now, I have to leave my RE at home and take different bike.
_ Our exchange was to help better understand maximum range... not if one lives "in town".
IF this notion of the canister saturation really matters. I think it does. You say that you have yanked your charcoal box but are still afraid to fill the tank fully. WTF ???
_ We all know that the gas gauge on motorcycles are iffy. Some more than others. Knowing how much less gas we get filling from the side stand should matter. Don't know how much X-country flying you do but I think you will agree that sometimes you need to calculate how stiff was that headwind for the first 2 hours of my flight. Obviously it matters less if one is doing local VFR hops. Sometimes, I ride the the last 40 miles of leg up in the mountains at dramatically reduced speeds.
_ So I think knowing the starting fuel volume makes sense.
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Reply #44 on: December 01, 2022, 05:07:22 pm
Just set trip meter to 0 at fill up. Then at next fill up divide number of miles by number of gallons. (Km & liters if applicable). Repeat across several fuel stops and find average.

You are assuming we as smart as you and know math.
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Reply #45 on: December 01, 2022, 05:08:00 pm
What about those that don't want to, they are being discriminated against at an instruction manual level.
Jess, before you fitted your centre stand, how did you know where and how much fuel to put in without the bike self destructing in a ball of flame.
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Reply #46 on: December 01, 2022, 05:09:40 pm
You are assuming we as smart as you and know math.
Hopefully you are smart enough to use a calculator, if not maybe you should reconsider driving a vehicle on public roads?
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Reply #47 on: December 01, 2022, 05:37:21 pm
Poor planning?  ;D

Nope, just several gas stations in the mountains where I lived that lost their power in a snow storm. I had already put the last of our gas in the generator and was headed to the gas station to get gas…. Had to drive and extra 30 miles to get to a station with power.
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Reply #48 on: December 01, 2022, 05:43:44 pm
For those who are scared about missing the last petrol station.
Those are very handy.
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Reply #49 on: December 01, 2022, 05:47:56 pm
Had center stand waiting in garage before bikevwas delivered.
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Reply #50 on: December 01, 2022, 06:04:59 pm
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Don’t understand this sentence.
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Reply #51 on: December 01, 2022, 06:26:38 pm
I think its hilarious how we go into such tiny detail about the most boring and mundane subjects. (Myself included) I imagine all forums are the same in that regard.

I just imagine a Barbie doll forum where there are ten pages of threads about whether it is best to dress all your Barbies in winter clothing in December, and if the patterns match, and if they don't, which vendors carry the best quality of Winter Barbie gear, and if the vintage Barbie Winter jacket is superior to the new products, and if is proper to use Barbie underwear, or if you can substitute Chinese underwear since no one sees it, and the approximate thread count for proper Barbie Winter boots, and if there is a substitute for genuine Mattel fabric conditioner, and why Barbie hair has similarities to Congalese Umbatu warrior pubic hair, etc, etc.

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Reply #52 on: December 01, 2022, 07:28:13 pm
Don’t understand this sentence.
You never tried to tough it out as a true rufty tufty GT rider having to fill up on the side stand with no proper instructions in the handbook.
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Reply #53 on: December 01, 2022, 07:45:33 pm
How are you guys measuring this mpg.Is it full tank miles to empty tank.?

Use a fuel app. Quick and accurate record (unlike staring into a fuel tank) and it does the math/conversions for you.


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Reply #55 on: December 01, 2022, 08:02:04 pm
You never tried to tough it out as a true rufty tufty GT rider having to fill up on the side stand with no proper instructions in the handbook.
Nope, when I read the specs and saw a deleted center stand I knew that would never do for me.
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Reply #57 on: December 01, 2022, 08:50:17 pm
 How much more gas can you get into the tank with the bike on the centerstand vs. the sidestand ?


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Reply #58 on: December 01, 2022, 09:21:15 pm
Another less combative way to carry more fuel - just get a larger tank. These guys custom build whatever you think you want.

https://www.royalenfieldzone.com/fuel_tanks.asp

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Reply #59 on: December 01, 2022, 09:39:04 pm
Another less combative way to carry more fuel - just get a larger tank. These guys custom build whatever you think you want.

https://www.royalenfieldzone.com/fuel_tanks.asp

" We can provide Fuel Tanks for All models of Royal Enfield customized and larger capacities fuel tanks of up to 36 litres are also available with us. We also provide design tanks according to customers taste. "
I like the idea of a GT tank with more capacity, but I wonder the cost$. 
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Reply #60 on: December 01, 2022, 10:10:46 pm
Hopefully you are smart enough to use a calculator, if not maybe you should reconsider driving a vehicle on public roads?

I will take that under advisement. At my skill level, my safest transport might be a mobility scooter.

By the way, the little saddlebag container is great for carrying brake fluid. I find a swig of DOT 4 now and again keeps me motivated.
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Reply #61 on: December 01, 2022, 10:23:33 pm
I like the idea of a GT tank with more capacity, but I wonder the cost$.

In addition to where it's made.

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Reply #62 on: December 01, 2022, 10:36:58 pm
none....just tried it!

Filled to "just touching" the splash guard with the bike on the paddock stand.  (level)

The put the bike on the side stand.

Fuel touched 1/2 of the splash guard left side, no fuel touching the right side.

Essentially the same !

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How much more gas can you get into the tank with the bike on the centerstand vs. the sidestand ?


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Reply #63 on: December 01, 2022, 10:40:56 pm
This discussion is getting ridiculous and hilarious!

If you need longer range out of your RE 650.....and one or two ounces make a difference...then you are cutting it way too close for comfort!

If you are driving places where no fuel is available, for distances longer than the RE650's range...then you have two choices:  Carry auxiliary fuel...or take another bike with more range.

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Reply #64 on: December 01, 2022, 11:00:41 pm
I like the idea of a GT tank with more capacity, but I wonder the cost$.
https://bonvent-motorbikes.com/vintage-rally-tank-cover-royal-enfield-interceptor-continental/

It gives you at least the illusion of having a bigger tank.


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Reply #65 on: December 01, 2022, 11:02:23 pm
This discussion is getting ridiculous and hilarious!

If you need longer range out of your RE 650.....and one or two ounces make a difference...then you are cutting it way too close for comfort!

If you are driving places where no fuel is available, for distances longer than the RE650's range...then you have two choices:  Carry auxiliary fuel...or take another bike with more range.

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I always find myself filling up after around 90 miles. Thats usually an hour & a half to two hours and by then I want a few minutes off the bike.
 Still I have range anxiety when I think about the tank's range of around 150 miles.
 Totally illogical and irrational I know. I need to get over it, I’m never pushing the range and where I live & ride there are fuel stations everywhere, never more than 20 miles apart at most and usually 2 or 3 stations every 5 miles.
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Reply #66 on: December 01, 2022, 11:25:37 pm
I fill up everytime i go for a ride, even if the tank is still half full. And as for fuel economy, i wouldn't know as I've never measured it.


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Reply #67 on: December 01, 2022, 11:41:48 pm
Sure!  I always start off with a full tank...just in case..

I keep a few 5 gallon canisters with non-ethanol gas in my shop.

I use one of those battery powered transfer pumps....neat and easy!

I don't care about fuel economy.

I figure 160 mile range, but usually fill way befor that.

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I fill up everytime i go for a ride, even if the tank is still half full. And as for fuel economy, i wouldn't know as I've never measured it.


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Reply #68 on: December 02, 2022, 12:03:03 am
@ #59: Go on their website & ask about it, they will respond. Likely in the $300-$400 range. As a custom you could get actual inset rubber tank pads and a tank rack. They do paint, chrome, and actual copper is an option too. 25L seems to be a popular size, nearly 7 gallons when full. That'd get the GT neatly 400 miles down the highway, about 7 "old guy" rest break units.  ;)
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Reply #69 on: December 02, 2022, 12:14:07 am
https://bonvent-motorbikes.com/vintage-rally-tank-cover-royal-enfield-interceptor-continental/

It gives you at least the illusion of having a bigger tank.
Interesting stuff beyond the tank cover. Rear fender and side panels are different.
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Reply #70 on: December 02, 2022, 12:39:09 am
@ #59: Go on their website & ask about it, they will respond. Likely in the $300-$400 range. As a custom you could get actual inset rubber tank pads and a tank rack. They do paint, chrome, and actual copper is an option too. 25L seems to be a popular size, nearly 7 gallons when full. That'd get the GT neatly 400 miles down the highway, about 7 "old guy" rest break units.  ;)
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Reply #71 on: December 02, 2022, 05:21:10 pm
Stock gearing and otherwise same as you about 25lm/l or so.  Don't review it out much but use wide throttle openings when hustling.  I have never been one to get great fuel economy.  Even so, there are numerous claims of 30km/l plus I assume it it just tootling and minimal acceleration.

Well, considering that gasoline here in Brazil has an addition of 27.5 percent Ethanol. The best consumption average obtained in my interceptor was 28.6Km/l. Traveling at an average speed of 90km/h.
But currently RE has done a remap enriching the mixture a bit on the bikes to solve a pre-ignition issue on the Brazilian Twins. So I still haven't averaged consumption after this remap.
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Reply #72 on: December 02, 2022, 05:48:25 pm
@ #70: Plain tanks available as well up to 35L. As it's custom, you could probably get any shape you are willing to sketch out. All just an email away.
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Reply #73 on: December 02, 2022, 06:35:15 pm
Well, considering that gasoline here in Brazil has an addition of 27.5 percent Ethanol. The best consumption average obtained in my interceptor was 28.6Km/l. Traveling at an average speed of 90km/h.
But currently RE has done a remap enriching the mixture a bit on the bikes to solve a pre-ignition issue on the Brazilian Twins. So I still haven't averaged consumption after this remap.
That’s very impressive given your fuel is going to have almost 10% less energy the ordinary petrol
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Reply #74 on: December 02, 2022, 10:10:29 pm
https://bonvent-motorbikes.com/vintage-rally-tank-cover-royal-enfield-interceptor-continental/

It gives you at least the illusion of having a bigger tank.

Kinda like looking at your johnson with a magnifying glass to make you feel better.

In my mind, if it doesn't make your bike work better, make it more useful, more powerful, handle better, or be more comfortable or safe, then it is a useless fashion accessory. Although I did add two stickers to my bike, so there's that. To each his or her own.
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Reply #75 on: December 02, 2022, 10:45:16 pm
i'd be happy with 15 L capacity for my gt650.

25L? 35L? that seems nuts to me. this bike already feels super top heavy enough.


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Reply #76 on: December 03, 2022, 04:28:08 am
Carrying more fuel as a response to range anxiety is easier & more conveniently done in the fuel tank than via strap-on bottle, unless that's the only financial option. Having a 25L-35L tank (or even OEM 14L) doesn't mean that it needs to be constantly "to the brim". It does however give one the option of having a comfortable +6 gallons on board, likely a day's travel for most. As long as you are near civilization, high fuel tank capacity is a non-issue.
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Reply #77 on: December 03, 2022, 11:41:38 am
Carrying more fuel as a response to range anxiety is easier & more conveniently done in the fuel tank than via strap-on bottle, unless that's the only financial option. Having a 25L-35L tank (or even OEM 14L) doesn't mean that it needs to be constantly "to the brim". It does however give one the option of having a comfortable +6 gallons on board, likely a day's travel for most. As long as you are near civilization, high fuel tank capacity is a non-issue.
Yup.
Last winter I decided that I would do pretty much exactly that for exactly those reasons. Now that winter has returned, I'll finish up that project. I'll revive that thread in the next week or so.
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Reply #78 on: December 03, 2022, 12:46:49 pm
In my mind, if it doesn't make your bike work better, make it more useful, more powerful, handle better, or be more comfortable or safe, then it is a useless fashion accessory.
I wouldn't buy a fake tank, too. But there is a market for it, otherwise they wouldn't sell it.


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Reply #79 on: December 03, 2022, 02:24:38 pm
… then it is a useless fashion accessory...
No such thing.
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Reply #80 on: December 03, 2022, 03:37:19 pm


In my mind, if it doesn't make your bike work better, make it more useful, more powerful, handle better, or be more comfortable or safe, then it is a useless fashion accessory.
So, why did you buy the RE 650 instead of a dynamically superior SV650.

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Reply #81 on: December 03, 2022, 09:53:27 pm
looks like I'm a luck guy, my Interceptor is good for 300K range.  Thats 12L used so 1.5 left.  Gentle touring 320 with 1.5 left.
I fill at 280 to 300 no probs


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Reply #82 on: December 04, 2022, 12:20:57 am
Nothing special...that's about "normal" or "average"

that's about 60 mpg (in USA terms) and about 25 miles in reserve...



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looks like I'm a luck guy, my Interceptor is good for 300K range.  Thats 12L used so 1.5 left.  Gentle touring 320 with 1.5 left.
I fill at 280 to 300 no probs


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Reply #83 on: December 04, 2022, 12:52:27 am
I checked my mileage once  shortly after getting the bike  -- 64 mpg. I don't generally ride aggressively.
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Reply #84 on: December 12, 2022, 04:50:33 am
1… at 60mph in my top gear I’m turning about 3800 rpm (as measured by factory tach)
2… best tank I have ever gotten was 64 mpg US. I average 57 mpg US… currently I’m getting 52 mpg US….
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I missed this post earlier.  My RPM is lower at 60 as I have a 16T countershaft sprocket.  Makes a 300 rpm difference at 60 mph.

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