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Royal Enfield Motorcycles => Bullet with the UCE engine => Topic started by: YJake on March 09, 2011, 10:43:17 pm

Title: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: YJake on March 09, 2011, 10:43:17 pm
I have a trip in the morning and now I have ran into a slight speedbump, here are the symptoms...

-No rear left blinker.
-Front left blinker is blinking twice as fast.
-Already replaced rear blinker to no avail.

If anybody could help me out I would truly appreciate it. I fear that I have a short somewhere but hopfully the ground is just loose. (By the way, where does that blinker ground?).

-Jake
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: Tri750 on March 09, 2011, 11:08:37 pm
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Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: The Garbone on March 09, 2011, 11:30:49 pm
I don't know if the new bikes have a ground return from the signals or if they are just grounded via the light bracket.

I would use a multimeter to see if you getting voltage to the rear socket and check the grounding on the thing.    No voltage = loose connector,  worse case you might need to pull off the brake light/tag housing it as there are connectors under it.

If nothing works you can alway use hand signals.. I do since my signals fell off... 

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/thegarbone/bicycle-hand-signals-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: YJake on March 10, 2011, 12:17:06 am
I'm gong to take the housing apart and have a look see. I don't have the meter to check for continuity but I do have a test light and will poke around some.

I may not get a chance to respond after this tonight, but will keep reading and when I get to where I'm going I'll try to respond.

-Jake
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: singhg5 on March 10, 2011, 12:31:21 am
I don't know if the new bikes have a ground return from the signals or if they are just grounded via the light bracket.

@Gary - The new bikes have a ground via the Tail Light in the Circuit diagram.  Did not see ground return from the rear signals in the diagram.
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: Ducati Scotty on March 10, 2011, 12:53:01 am
The front is blinking twice as fast because only one light is working.  It's a safety feature of the blinker so you can easily tell when a bulb burns out.  Once you get the other one working it will be fine.

A test light should be all you need, especially if it's one of the nice pointy screwdriver types you can poke into wires with.  You can start by testing in the socket, then try socket hot with chassis ground, then move up along the wire towards the front of the bike until you get juice.

It's good to take the signal housing apart and look there, maybe pull the main tail light housing and look in there too.   If you replaced the bulb and it's still not working a connection may have come loose somewhere.  Check for a loose connector near the steering tube.  They come apart here often since the bars are always moving back and forth.  There's also a pinch point under the back left part of the fuel tank where a gold mounting bracket crosses the wiring loom.  Check that. 

If none of those solve it get a soild chassis ground with your test light and start working along the wiring loom from front to back until you find the place where you lose electricity. 

Good luck!

Scott
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: Ice on March 10, 2011, 01:08:11 am
 When my turn signals quit the first thing I do is clean up the socket using a gun bore brush and apply some dielectric grease to the base and contacts of the bulb. Usually saves me a lot of troubleshooting   ;)
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: GreenMachine on March 10, 2011, 01:13:54 am
thats a great idea and got  a tube somewhere...
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: REpozer on March 10, 2011, 01:15:52 am
Yep, pertty easy. Pull the one bolt off, holding the tail lamp and trafficators from the inside back fender.

Now, its either the Black wire, or the Green wire that has come loose from the Bullet connectors.
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: YJake on March 10, 2011, 04:57:58 am
Got it solved folks!

I took the taillight housing apart at night, in the dark, while it was raining (Regular Enfield wrenching circumstances I gather ::)) and it turns out the plastic connector for the left turn signal had come undone somehow from vibes inside the housing. Kind of odd since they are the "snap together and break trying to separate" type. I wrapped the wires in electrical tape as well as the connectors to keep this from happening again anytime soon.  ;)

Thanks for the input and wiring diagram, it was all very insightful and helpfull.  :)

Happy Travels,
-Jake
Title: Re: Blinker issue and a roadtrip tomorrow, can somebody help out?
Post by: The Garbone on March 10, 2011, 01:28:03 pm
Good deal..

Wish you luck on the trip.  Looks like rain all day today..