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on: September 12, 2021, 05:06:21 am
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/2022-kawasaki-z650rs-retro-style-motorcycle-details/

interesting. obviously not as clean and classic looking as the re650, but this one has 67hp and probably a good 30 pounds lighter than the interceptor if its anything close to the z650s weight.

EDIT: the picture showing on the page is the 900 but rumors are saying it will look similar.
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Reply #1 on: September 12, 2021, 07:03:52 am
I’m sure it will be quite nice and a success but quite a different sort of thing to the RE
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Reply #2 on: September 12, 2021, 07:53:14 am
+1 to that. Keeping H or V rated tires on that beast would be a necessity. The hard part is re-acquiring those cat-like reflexes and 15/20 vision you had as a young adult... ;) 

A 45 HP twin will easily haul you around at extra-legal velocities, but that's not really the point of a nice torquey twin. For Japanese iron, Kaw's Versys 650 at 67 HP, 460 pounds and the lovely Suzuki V-Strom 650 @ 66 horsepower & 470 pounds are tough choices to beat and thoroughly sorted as well. And as always, there's that old workhorse the KLR 650. Cut down a wee bit it's a dandy road mount.
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Reply #3 on: September 12, 2021, 09:05:32 am
I want to see one in a showroom before I comment on looks. Does the engine have a 360 or 180 crank.
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Reply #4 on: September 12, 2021, 12:51:50 pm
Seeing the popularity of the RE, Kawasaki decided to enter the fray. looks great, maybe because it's a slight racier copy of the RE650? Will it be available in the US?
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Reply #5 on: September 12, 2021, 05:12:16 pm
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Reply #6 on: September 12, 2021, 05:58:32 pm
I'm confused. Are we talking about a 2cylinder "Z" bike replica Or the WR850 classic?
"The Kawasaki W650 is a retro classic motorcycle made between model years 1999-2007 and superseded by the Kawasaki W800,..." $9,700usd
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/w/retro-classic/w800/2020-W800#



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Reply #7 on: September 12, 2021, 06:31:57 pm
No, it will be a 4 cylinders just like the old Z650 we can see in the teaser :
https://youtu.be/m1VkokpPaZE


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Reply #8 on: September 12, 2021, 07:52:03 pm
No, it will be a 4 cylinders just like the old Z650 we can see in the teaser :
https://youtu.be/m1VkokpPaZE

i doubt it. pretty sure it will be a twin, just like the current z650, which is what the z650rs should be based on.


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Reply #9 on: September 12, 2021, 07:53:26 pm
I'm confused. Are we talking about a 2cylinder "Z" bike replica Or the WR850 classic?
"The Kawasaki W650 is a retro classic motorcycle made between model years 1999-2007 and superseded by the Kawasaki W800,..." $9,700usd
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/w/retro-classic/w800/2020-W800#




this new z650rs version is supposed to be based on the current z650 but retro styled like the z900rs. so a twin as far as i know.


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Reply #10 on: September 12, 2021, 11:03:02 pm
You're right, it seems that it will be the actual 650 twin engine, sorry for the bad quality of this sketch ...


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Reply #11 on: September 12, 2021, 11:53:38 pm
+1 to that. Keeping H or V rated tires on that beast would be a necessity. The hard part is re-acquiring those cat-like reflexes and 15/20 vision you had as a young adult... ;) 

A 45 HP twin will easily haul you around at extra-legal velocities, but that's not really the point of a nice torquey twin.

+1 on all this.  My 70+ y.o. stepfather says his riding buddies are all looking at low-hp twins after years of high-hp super bikes. Not just us middle-agers picking up the twins :)
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Reply #12 on: September 13, 2021, 12:34:29 am
Now RE has to step up to the plate and offer a tuned version of the 650 twin with inverted forks, mags and a seat cowl.
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Reply #13 on: September 13, 2021, 12:51:54 am
+1 on all this.  My 70+ y.o. stepfather says his riding buddies are all looking at low-hp twins after years of high-hp super bikes. Not just us middle-agers picking up the twins :)

Getting older is an interesting journey. About 7 years ago I decided my Ducati 1198 was really "too much" bike for the public roads. So it makes around 175 RWHP and I've thought for the last 25 years that all you can realistically use on the road is 100HP max. So I let the rego lapse and just saved it for the track. I love that bike but it's just ridiculously over the top on the road. So then it's down to the Guzzi and Ducati 1000ss for the road, both around 80 RWHP and that's a pretty sensible road output with decent mid range torque. As much as I can use on the road sensibly. Then I step down to the RE at 43 RWHP and although it feels under powered it causes you to re evaluate what is really necessary on a road bike. I know if I rode in a group with a lot faster bikes I'd be able to keep up in the real world it's just I'd need to wring it's neck a lot and honestly I'm past that in a group ride situation. The target market for the RE is the young urban professional thats more about the style than the performance and us old blokes that aren't interested in tearing about at warp speed trying to prove something. Combine that with a truly amazing up front price and I think RE have nailed it personally.

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Reply #14 on: September 13, 2021, 08:30:34 am
Getting older is an interesting journey. About 7 years ago I decided my Ducati 1198 was really "too much" bike for the public roads. So it makes around 175 RWHP and I've thought for the last 25 years that all you can realistically use on the road is 100HP max. So I let the rego lapse and just saved it for the track. I love that bike but it's just ridiculously over the top on the road. So then it's down to the Guzzi and Ducati 1000ss for the road, both around 80 RWHP and that's a pretty sensible road output with decent mid range torque. As much as I can use on the road sensibly. Then I step down to the RE at 43 RWHP and although it feels under powered it causes you to re evaluate what is really necessary on a road bike. I know if I rode in a group with a lot faster bikes I'd be able to keep up in the real world it's just I'd need to wring it's neck a lot and honestly I'm past that in a group ride situation. The target market for the RE is the young urban professional thats more about the style than the performance and us old blokes that aren't interested in tearing about at warp speed trying to prove something. Combine that with a truly amazing up front price and I think RE have nailed it personally.

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