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on: November 19, 2020, 11:55:18 pm
Hello everyboby
I'm a Interceptor owner but I have interesting about this new model. I live in Italy
Someone have see well the Tripper Pad? The style Is like the Twins instruments.
This pad Is possible to mount in the others RE model? I think It Need only the 12v for start and run.
This pad can connect with the smartphone and with the Google navigazione, but Need the app. Where Is this app?
Another question I have see the windscreen about the Meteor and for me Is possible to mount in the Twins.
Re Is thinking a modular sistem?
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Reply #1 on: November 25, 2020, 07:35:58 am
It is very strange that I am asking this question all over the Royal Enfield spaces but nobody knows anything? :-\
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Reply #2 on: November 25, 2020, 11:21:56 am
Apart from the odd development model at the UK technical centre, I very much doubt whether anyone outside India has managed to get their hands on one yet!

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Reply #3 on: November 25, 2020, 11:25:50 am
Apart from the odd development model at the UK technical centre, I very much doubt whether anyone outside India has managed to get their hands on one yet!

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           OK, I'll bite. What the hell is a Tripper Pad?
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Reply #4 on: November 25, 2020, 11:45:36 am
They'd better re-name that before it gets to the German importer!  :o

https://en.langenscheidt.com/german-english/tripper

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Reply #5 on: November 27, 2020, 05:06:35 pm
           OK, I'll bite. What the hell is a Tripper Pad?

The "Tripper" is what they're calling the little Android ("Powered by Google") Bluetooth navigation pod instrument that's being introduced on the new Meteor line of bikes. Their "Boss Man" Siddhartha Lal describes it beginning about 9:53 in the company's introduction video for the new model line at https://youtu.be/vbIpO3yMkyQ, much of which was oddly enough filmed in Wales. Shame they didn't think to drop that bike off with our Forum's own beloved resident Welshman and "Bullet Whisperer", aka Paul Henshaw, so that he could REALLY run that thing through its paces on those hedgerowed byways of his for his popular channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcxcOWPcVIykzWG_lqWuRWg.
As "Adrian II" has already pointed out, the choice of the moniker "Tripper" may hoist a few raised eyebrows in their German-speaking markets, where "Tripper" is common slang for "the clap" (gonorrhea).

For those really interested in getting "Der Tripper", there's a more detailed rundown by Royal Enfield on it here: https://youtu.be/4XZZSGIyRnI. For everyone else, there's this: https://youtu.be/ZmbxinvLONE

To answer the original poster's question, there's apparently no word yet on whether Enfield plans to include the system on other models or perhaps sell it separately as an aftermarket item.
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Reply #6 on: November 27, 2020, 07:43:53 pm
Also it only works with the RE app wich is only available in india , but i got it working with the .apk
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Reply #7 on: November 28, 2020, 12:49:33 am
Nobody has a map, cell phone or Garmin? I generally know where I am, or I'll stop & sort it out. I'm kinda at a loss as to exactly why you need more distractions when riding your bike anyway, let alone pay extra money for them. It'd be nice to have the option to leave "Tripper" off and save $200 in my book. We're selling transportation here, not an internet lifestyle. All you probably "need" is a speedo, trip-resettable odometer, MAYBE turn signal & hi-beam indicators. Gas level? Just look in the tank. Neutral light, really? If you can't tell if you are in neutral...?  Keep it simple, it's a 20 HP cruiser.
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Reply #8 on: November 28, 2020, 11:54:32 am
Nobody has a map, cell phone or Garmin? I generally know where I am, or I'll stop & sort it out. I'm kinda at a loss as to exactly why you need more distractions when riding your bike anyway, let alone pay extra money for them. It'd be nice to have the option to leave "Tripper" off and save $200 in my book. We're selling transportation here, not an internet lifestyle. All you probably "need" is a speedo, trip-resettable odometer, MAYBE turn signal & hi-beam indicators. Gas level? Just look in the tank. Neutral light, really? If you can't tell if you are in neutral...?  Keep it simple, it's a 20 HP cruiser.

      It's a new world. Nowadays people want everything they have in their cars that they have in their electronically-controlled houses. The car (or whatever they call their vehicle) has become just another electronic device with doors and 4 wheels to move it around on. So why not motorcycles also?

      The last car trips I remember really enjoying were in the '60s and '70s were multi-thousand mile ones with my dog-eared Rand-McNally Road Atlas; the 1st was 6,000 from RI to Wyoming, then down into Mexico, then up to Las Vegas, then back east to RI in a 1960 Alfa Veloce Giulietta. Another was 5,000 in a '61 Volvo and later 9,000 in a 1960 VDub Bus.

       Nowadays it seems people can't get to the grocery store and back home without GPS and even in the store I see guys being lead around by a phone stuck to the side of their head.

        But waddoowyno? I'm a dinosaur  :)[/img]   I'm not in the demographic any more.

       
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Reply #9 on: November 28, 2020, 09:51:50 pm
I want to premise that I opened this topic not because I felt the need to have a GPS navigator but only for a question of curiosity that I have about the whole Royal Enfield world.
The only (really poor quality) video I found for the TRIPPER PAD is this:
https://youtu.be/RIuzdFxAlQQ
everything works with the Royal Enfield APP.
From me in Italy on our Playstore it is not available and I think it is only for India.
However, I downloaded the APK version 6.0 on the web and now the NAVIGATE item appears in the program menu, but .......
It is not possible to use it, because the program asks for a login and confirmation of a numeric code by SMS which must have an Indian phone number.  :-\
So (at the moment) it can ONLY be used in India.
The Tripper pad can be ordered at showrooms in india and costs around INR 5000
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Reply #10 on: December 05, 2020, 03:07:26 am
Nobody has a map, cell phone or Garmin? I generally know where I am, or I'll stop & sort it out. I'm kinda at a loss as to exactly why you need more distractions when riding your bike anyway, let alone pay extra money for them. It'd be nice to have the option to leave "Tripper" off and save $200 in my book. We're selling transportation here, not an internet lifestyle. All you probably "need" is a speedo, trip-resettable odometer, MAYBE turn signal & hi-beam indicators. Gas level? Just look in the tank. Neutral light, really? If you can't tell if you are in neutral...?  Keep it simple, it's a 20 HP cruiser.
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Reply #11 on: December 05, 2020, 06:22:32 pm
I've been employing my own "tripper pad" for a few years, now. I use a hand-me-down cell phone onto which I've downloaded a tracking app called SkiTrax. There are several apps like that one available online for pennies.
I set it to track myself, which it does, as I travel. It tracks my elevation, speed, and distance travelled in real time.
Because my cell phone has a gps function built in, I can see exactly where I am at any time just as if I am looking down at myself from some high elevation location...not just the road, but the topography, too, just like a photograph.
I use it to see how close I might be to fishing lakes as I travel logging roads here in the British Columbia interior region.
I save the records of those trips so I can look at them using Google Earth later on my laptop.
If the Tripper feature can do all that, it'l be a cool feature, unless you just don't need it. I don't need it because I've found a very good substitute.


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Reply #12 on: December 05, 2020, 08:19:56 pm
It may be fine in countries that embrace a 350 cc bike for touring unfamiliar areas. It would be more useful perhaps on the INT 650 BUT personally I love the retro large speedometer and tach set symmetrically where they're at on the INT. Yes a Garmin/cell phone attached to the handlebar via a specific mount makes more sense to me... on any bike.


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Reply #13 on: December 15, 2020, 02:59:39 am
Nobody has a map, cell phone or Garmin? I generally know where I am, or I'll stop & sort it out. I'm kinda at a loss as to exactly why you need more distractions when riding your bike anyway, let alone pay extra money for them. It'd be nice to have the option to leave "Tripper" off and save $200 in my book. We're selling transportation here, not an internet lifestyle. All you probably "need" is a speedo, trip-resettable odometer, MAYBE turn signal & hi-beam indicators. Gas level? Just look in the tank. Neutral light, really? If you can't tell if you are in neutral...?  Keep it simple, it's a 20 HP cruiser.

Well said. motorcycles should be simple and intuitive.


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Reply #14 on: December 15, 2020, 09:59:44 am
Nobody has a map, cell phone or Garmin? I generally know where I am, or I'll stop & sort it out. I'm kinda at a loss as to exactly why you need more distractions when riding your bike anyway, let alone pay extra money for them. It'd be nice to have the option to leave "Tripper" off and save $200 in my book. We're selling transportation here, not an internet lifestyle. All you probably "need" is a speedo, trip-resettable odometer, MAYBE turn signal & hi-beam indicators. Gas level? Just look in the tank. Neutral light, really? If you can't tell if you are in neutral...?  Keep it simple, it's a 20 HP cruiser.
Disclaimer: I am a gadget freak.
However, the very place I don't want any distractions is when I'm riding a bike. Yes, my GoldWing looks like an aeroplane cockpit but, like an aeroplane, very little of what's in front of me is actually used while traveling once you're happy with how it's set up.
The only time I need GPS is the last mile or so to get to an unfamiliar destination.
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Reply #15 on: December 15, 2020, 01:55:19 pm
Beeline Moto make something similar that can be fitted to any bike (battery powered). Not got one myself as I'm to tight to fork out but heard lots of praise for them.


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Reply #16 on: December 15, 2020, 02:47:24 pm
Disclaimer: I am a gadget freak.
However, the very place I don't want any distractions is when I'm riding a bike. Yes, my GoldWing looks like an aeroplane cockpit but, like an aeroplane, very little of what's in front of me is actually used while traveling once you're happy with how it's set up.
The only time I need GPS is the last mile or so to get to an unfamiliar destination.

That is my feeling, also. What I like to do is to stop to take a break, pull out a free AAA paper map, adjust my direction and only check a GPS as I try to locate my exact destination in a town or city so that I don't get lost during the last mile.
 :)

Besides, some people that just watch a GPS screen sometimes end up in a lake or driving off a missing bridge.  ::)
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Reply #17 on: December 15, 2020, 03:54:07 pm
When I worked over on the Bishop (East) side of the Sierras, we several times a year found semi-tractor trailer rigs up at tiny 8000' Lake Sabrina, located at the one-lane, twisty end of our section of State Highway 168, trying to turn their rigs around on the sloped concrete launch ramp. They thought their GPS had shown them that it connected thru to the 168 up from Fresno on the West side. Except for needing about 20 miles of tunnel, it would have made a great short cut...
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Reply #18 on: December 15, 2020, 08:41:54 pm
AzCal you rang a bell with me.  Several years ago a plumber and his wife from Calgary were following instructions from the GPS to a plumber convention in Las Vegas.  Between Idaho and Nevada the unit directed them onto a gravel road which progressively got less maintained and worse. Tried to turn around, got stuck.  The plumber tried to walk out.  The wife stayed with the car for about 45 days until some antler hunters found her in the springtime.  She survived on raisins, nuts and melted snow.  They didn't find the plumber for about 3 years.  Very sad and tragic story.
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Reply #19 on: December 16, 2020, 08:45:25 am
Nobody has a map, cell phone or Garmin? I generally know where I am, or I'll stop & sort it out. I'm kinda at a loss as to exactly why you need more distractions when riding your bike anyway, let alone pay extra money for them. It'd be nice to have the option to leave "Tripper" off and save $200 in my book. We're selling transportation here, not an internet lifestyle. All you probably "need" is a speedo, trip-resettable odometer, MAYBE turn signal & hi-beam indicators. Gas level? Just look in the tank. Neutral light, really? If you can't tell if you are in neutral...?  Keep it simple, it's a 20 HP cruiser.

It's hard to get rid of the electronic gadgets, fully automatic production, little inexpensive material used, bit of software code...once the r&d cost is paid for these things cost next to nothing and can provide attractive or entertaining features. Besides of that the tripper as they put on that meteor seems to be quite well thought out, simple, unobtrusive, little, an actual innovation in the moto navigation department. Not something anyone might expect from RE.


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Reply #20 on: January 04, 2021, 10:43:56 am
Just read in MCN (UK) that RE are planning making the navigation available as an accessory across other ranges, presumably the twins.


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Reply #21 on: January 05, 2021, 11:48:33 pm
For me, instead, as an interceptor owner, the clock function that is inserted in the Tripper Pad is also very interesting and this function can be set to always have it available. I don't like those watches attached to the handlebars and since I always drive protected by a jacket it would be very difficult for me to look at the time from my wristwatch.
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Reply #23 on: January 17, 2021, 10:12:20 am
For me, instead, as an interceptor owner, the clock function that is inserted in the Tripper Pad is also very interesting and this function can be set to always have it available. I don't like those watches attached to the handlebars and since I always drive protected by a jacket it would be very difficult for me to look at the time from my wristwatch.

When out riding my 350 Bullet I tend to forget the time....a couple of arguments with a worried wife later I decided I ought to have a timepiece of some sort. I bought a very cheap water resistant wristwatch and fastened it round the handlebars. Then I decided to go upmarket and I made a clock from the front of an old flashlight, which I modified on my lathe to fit over the stem nut and fitted a cheap movement from eBay; total cost about £6. As far as navigation goes, I generally follow my nose because I use the bike to explore back roads I’ve not ridden before. Then I look up where I went when I get home!
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Reply #24 on: January 21, 2021, 12:31:16 pm
Said “timepiece”:

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Reply #25 on: January 21, 2021, 02:00:27 pm
That's fine and workmanlike job you've done there, Paul W. But like I said in an earlier thread (https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?topic=29744.msg347956#msg347956), I kind of DON'T want a clock right there on the bars. I'm usually out there to lose  track of time. If my trophy wife needs me she'll call. Instead I've opted for a nice steampunk-looking $4 mechanical pocket watch that's been surprisingly rugged and accurate. I suppose it could also double as a handy compass on a reasonably sunny day, as described here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wikihow.com/Use-an-Analog-Watch-as-a-Compass%3famp=1 (with additional helpful instructions for our Antipodean buddies in the Southern Hemisphere).

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Reply #26 on: January 21, 2021, 06:54:23 pm
Good solution, and a very nice Zundapp watch fob too.
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Reply #27 on: January 24, 2021, 04:48:12 pm
I like the look of the steampunk watch. Trouble is, once I get riding the Bullet, I don’t usually stop to check the time...hence getting my wife worried that I’ve found the bottom of a ditch. It would take me five minutes to get undressed enough to find anything in my pockets. As for hearing my phone ringing....I ride a Royal Enfield Bullet... ;D
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