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Title: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: 3rdgear on September 04, 2010, 05:14:57 pm
Well it's been several weeks since I posted that I put a deposit on a Black 2010 C5.  Last I had heard, the bike was in customs. Yesterday, I called the dealer for an update only to find out that he refused shipment.  In fact, he has informed headquarters that he refuses to sell any C5's until the unexplained wobble issues are resolved.  So, if I want a C5 it's going to be from a different source or I go with a G5 if I want local support.

Bummer!
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: REpozer on September 04, 2010, 05:55:51 pm
Sounds like some weird pissing match  is going on behind the sences.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: prof_stack on September 04, 2010, 06:04:05 pm
Where are you located?
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: r80rt on September 04, 2010, 06:18:28 pm
I'd find another dealer and get the C5.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: GreenMachine on September 05, 2010, 12:50:39 am
strange happenings.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 05, 2010, 01:45:49 am
I'd find another dealer and get the C5.
 Me to. I think we all did alot of work here to help resolve that. I think it's been shown here, that when the bike is properly set up, it's fine. I've  also, with a good friend spent the past week testing and fine tunening things after we found the issue with my bike. And am still at it. Just really going over everthing in the chassis. I gotta tell ya, I was scepticle when i started this. But the more I look, the more I see the design on this bike is pretty good.
 3rdgear, I suggest you have your dealer go through all my threads on stability, with all the modifications I did, in a an attempt to correct the stability issue. which really had no effect. And then have him look at Bradey's thread and see what caused the problem. And what we did to correct it.I'm an honest guy, and I call it like I see it. No I don't work for CMW, they don't know me ,other then contact through this community.
I set out to correct the condition on my bike, and it was found and resolved. I can tell you on my bike in it's present condition , I have had it cruising at 75mph-80mph, cruising, not get up there and back off, with no ill effects other then the discomfort and buffeting of  wind .
Dan. 
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: ScooterBob on September 05, 2010, 02:04:24 am
Well it's been several weeks since I posted that I put a deposit on a Black 2010 C5.  Last I had heard, the bike was in customs. Yesterday, I called the dealer for an update only to find out that he refused shipment.  In fact, he has informed headquarters that he refuses to sell any C5's until the unexplained wobble issues are resolved.  So, if I want a C5 it's going to be from a different source or I go with a G5 if I want local support.

Bummer!

This sounds like TOTAL bullsh!t to me ...... CMW needs to have a little chat with that dealer. Maybe they want to sell Sun-L's instead ........  >:( It seems that the dealers who take the time to actually set one up don't have any problems at all with the bikes .... Hmmmmmm .........
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: UncleErnie on September 05, 2010, 11:55:14 am
I can see the dealers point (sorry);   he has to spend -what- a day? making corrections to the FACTORY set-up in order to make the bike roadworthy?  So he takes all this time and gets nothing for it.  He could have been making money on a repair or something, but instead he has to do the factory's job.   ?   
If he does get any remuneration, it's in the form of parts coupons- but everyone orders parts direct from the Nfield store. 
The life of a dealer ain't all glamor and bright lights...

What am I missing?
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 05, 2010, 04:11:25 pm
 Don't be sorry UncleErnie, It's a fair point. But I think we have seen the 2nd year improvement in the rear fender and stay design.Ya, my fender was clearly made wrong at the factory last year. There's guys on this forum who got there bikes around the same time as me, who are not having a problem. I don't know how the bikes are delivered to the dealer. And to what extent the dealer has to set the bikes up. But I would think they would give it a good going over. A test ride perhaps?
 What would this problem have cost the dealer?  A little aggrevation over calling in for a new fender?  And a Phone call to Mr. gasehousegorilla saying I'm sorry, but your bike is gonna be delayed,cause my guy who does a good job at set up, found something. You know, those good dealer mechanic's that take the time and effort to get things right. Like adjusting those front fender stays so your shrouds  are not scratched to hell. Maybe there's just some new dealers out there with not a lot of experience with these bike's? If there good, they will adjust to this different brand there selling and take the time to get things right in the beginning. You know, do a little reserch, get into this brand your selling. listen to the factory reps.Most probably are.
  As far a parts are concerned? Well I think thats just a fact of life now a days.  For any brand to a greater or lesser extent. Like it or not, and I don't. More and more people are getting there parts online, I hate waiting a week or two to get a part I need. Until there's a dealer in every area, what are you gonna do?  Order it from the dealer, who will order it from the supplier and then it is shipped to you. I deal with that with Honda, and it Blows!! I try to order from the people who actually stock what the sell, then i get it in a few days. Again, the dealers are gonna have to adjust.
 With a  good effort by both the factory and the dealers , issues like this should never happen.
Dan.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Blue Ridge Wheeltor on September 05, 2010, 04:42:01 pm
Actually if the dealer honestly feels that RE is sending over bikes with a design flaw, or improperly assembled then I applaud his refusing delivery. If he tweaks the bike as per some have done on this forum, and the buyer has an accident, he is in for a heck of a liability lawsuit.
I was considering a C5, but have read too much that sways me away from that.
Here's a novel idea: Instead of jumping on the dealer, why doesnt RE just get it right at the factory.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Vince on September 05, 2010, 05:22:19 pm
I can see the dealers point (sorry);   he has to spend -what- a day? making corrections to the FACTORY set-up in order to make the bike roadworthy?  So he takes all this time and gets nothing for it.  He could have been making money on a repair or something, but instead he has to do the factory's job.   ?   
If he does get any remuneration, it's in the form of parts coupons- but everyone orders parts direct from the Nfield store. 
The life of a dealer ain't all glamor and bright lights...

What am I missing?
     This is why dealers charge for set up. It is part and parcel of selling a complex piece of machinery. The dealer was shirking his duty. I spend 5 to 6 hours on every bike setting it up. My customers don't have this issue, or even most of the issues talked about on this forum.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 05, 2010, 05:32:29 pm
Actually if the dealer honestly feels that RE is sending over bikes with a design flaw, or improperly assembled then I applaud his refusing delivery. If he tweaks the bike as per some have done on this forum, and the buyer has an accident, he is in for a heck of a liability lawsuit.
I was considering a C5, but have read too much that sways me away from that.
Here's a novel idea: Instead of jumping on the dealer, why doesnt RE just get it right at the factory.
I don't think were jumping on the dealer. And you know, your probably right about 3rdgears dealer, maybe he's just being thorough. Then Good , I was wrong. But i was stateing things from my perspective. My dealer was the only one around. He also had the best price around. He waived shipping and set up fee. maybe to move bikes? Well I guess you get what you pay for.My bike took longer to get then what he said, fine he's just trying to please. When I picked it up. It looked rough, but you know what. I saved a grand. I figured, big deal, I'll clean it up, do a little adjusting, Ya know.
He's not a dealer anymore, why? I don't know for sure. Any dealer who found what we did, would have to tweek nothing, he would have to call in for a new fender.To be fair, I did what I did because it is MY bike. And I have that stubbern Idea, probably to my disadvantage, that I can do it better.So whats the moral of the story,check with your dealer, he may know more then you. In my case, i did not get that feeling. But don't condem the bike because I had a bad rear fender.
Dan.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 05, 2010, 05:41:12 pm
There is a stability problem with a small number of the C5s.  Since there are so many that do not have it I think it's a matter of set up and not inherent to the design.  Also, with what is going on right here we are providing valuable feedback to the dealers, importer CMW, and the manufacturer.  I think this will be a faded memory very soon.

All that said, do what I did: get on the bike you want to buy and take it to 65mph and see if it's acceptable.  Mine wasn't as rock solid as my Ducati Monster but I dind't expect it to be and it wasn't unmanageable.   Bought the bike and it's fine.  I just did a 1600 round trip from Portland to San Francisco and back with no problems.

Also, if you want a bike and the dealer doesn't want to carry it you're not likely to get good service.  Find a dealer that loves the bike as much as you do.  My dealer and his top mechanic literally went out and hugged the REs for several weeks when they first got them.  (Probably still do.)  I get great service.

Ok, I admit it, I've hugged the bike once or twice myself. :)

Scott

Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: ScooterBob on September 05, 2010, 06:09:27 pm
I can see the dealers point (sorry);   he has to spend -what- a day? making corrections to the FACTORY set-up in order to make the bike roadworthy?  So he takes all this time and gets nothing for it.  He could have been making money on a repair or something, but instead he has to do the factory's job.   ?   
If he does get any remuneration, it's in the form of parts coupons- but everyone orders parts direct from the Nfield store. 
The life of a dealer ain't all glamor and bright lights...

What am I missing?

Dealers generally charge for the set-up and prep on the bikes. The GOOD dealers go the extra mile and make sure that the bikes are RIGHT before they are offered for sale - the general public would / should NEVER be exposed to one that isn't. As far as the dealer being reimbursed for his time and trouble - the warranty for the Royal Enfield bikes pays better than any I've ever seen - and I've seem more than a few. As far as the parts credit goes - OEM parts for the new bikes are only available through the dealer - and most of the popular C5 accessories are the same way - so there is no competition there.

Bottom line - if someone gets a C5 that hasn't been set up properly or ridden at speed to confirm that set-up - the DEALER is laying down on the job ..... period.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: UncleErnie on September 05, 2010, 06:39:54 pm
I didn't know dealers charged for set-up.   I just assumed they did the minimum in order to meet a certain price point.

Sooo- wouldn't running a new bike up to 65mph sort of kill the slow and steady break-in thing?    Are these UCE's that different?
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 05, 2010, 06:48:51 pm
     This is why dealers charge for set up. It is part and parcel of selling a complex piece of machinery. The dealer was shirking his duty. I spend 5 to 6 hours on every bike setting it up. My customers don't have this issue, or even most of the issues talked about on this forum.
Absolutley !!  A dealer is an intricle part of the system. Thats why we need more.And not ones who want to just "Carry the Brand". If you are not into what you do,well you can see the results. A dearlership ain't a job you just show up for. A means to make a quick buck. You should be passionate, or don't carry it.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 05, 2010, 06:51:42 pm
Yup, running up to 65 would go against the slow ans steady break in but just once on a warm engine isn't likely to destroy anything.  I was more interested in knowing how the bike felt overall at that speed.  I didn't want a bike that felt strained at 60mph but I was looking for the instability too.  Lucky me, it was the demo bike and already had 1000 miles on it but I would have done this regardless.
 
Scott
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: r80rt on September 05, 2010, 06:53:11 pm
Where can I get a list of the C5 accessories that are available through a dealer? ???
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 05, 2010, 07:02:29 pm
I didn't know dealers charged for set-up.   I just assumed they did the minimum in order to meet a certain price point.

Sooo- wouldn't running a new bike up to 65mph sort of kill the slow and steady break-in thing?    Are these UCE's that different?
My symptoms showed up at 55 mph. You never saw listed a set up fee? Those bikes come in ,I believe in crates, not fully assembled. Somebody has to put them together? Ain't nothing free. I guess if we keeping looking for fault, were gonna find it. But I don't really think thats the point. We all love this brand, Otherwise we would not be putting all this time into it. This should all be about making it better.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 05, 2010, 07:26:51 pm
Maybe they want to sell Sun-L's instead ........
And scooterbob, what the hell is a Sun-L  anyway? :D
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: ScooterBob on September 05, 2010, 09:24:25 pm
I didn't know dealers charged for set-up.   I just assumed they did the minimum in order to meet a certain price point.

Sooo- wouldn't running a new bike up to 65mph sort of kill the slow and steady break-in thing?    Are these UCE's that different?

There ARE dealers out there that just do the minimum .... rip the plastic off the seats and slap the front wheel on. I believe THESE are the dealers that we are talking about that are NOT doing the WHOLE job ......

And yeah - the UCE is THAT different. The Crash Test Dummy has seen more abuse right out of the box than four of them put together ...... it's just fine at present - and shows no signs of the fact that it's lived on the rev limiter about half the time it's been RUNNING .....
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: ScooterBob on September 05, 2010, 09:28:46 pm
And scooterbob, what the hell is a Sun-L  anyway? :D

One of the cheapest, crappiest, Tupperware brand, buy three to get one good one, scooters out there. They are cheeeeeeeep though. The retail nut on them is about $499 - and they require no set up at all ..... what's the use?

So - If anyone out there WITH a Sun-L is taken aback by this description because you've had no trouble at all with YOUR bike ..... I apologise - but take it immediately to Sun-L for a full refund because I've never seen one work that way .......  ::)
Title: Something rotten in a certain part of the country
Post by: Kevin Mahoney on September 05, 2010, 09:41:29 pm
Dear ThrdGear,
I hope you have gotten you deposit back, if not get it and RUN to the bank. There is something very wrong with this story.

The "still coming thourgh Customs" story is total Brave Sierra (BS) to quote my favorite hillbilly Scooter Bob. We have had Black C5's available for immediate shipping for quite a while although I have heard this story from customers in a certain part of the country before.  We also have a dealer somewhere in the US who still owes me for his last bike and when told that he needs to pay for any further  bikes up front, cancled an order for a Black C5. Just a coincidence I guess,

We have also not had a dealer refuse a shipment, strange.

I guess I am OK though since the check for the first bike has been in the mail for over three weeks. Damn postal service! It seems like that particular post office branch always has the same problem. I just can't figure it out.

You know there is also a dealer who couldn’t take care of customer’s problem so we moved the bike to another dealer who could, how odd, wonder if that fellow is pissed off? It is also very odd that the second dealer is right on top of it.

 If someone is discounting a new bike $1,000 and not asking for prep I can assure you that they are losing cold hard cash money on that particular bike, in fact a lot of cash. I guess they'll make it up in volume though. I don't know what people think, but there is not that much money in one for a dealer.

I would NEVER buy a bike, any bike, from a dealer who didn't have one to show me and let me ride. How comitted is that fellow?

The good news is that in the part of the country where I think you live there are several first class dealers who I would buy a bike from. If you give Scooter Bob a call at 800-201-7472 we can refer you to a couple. (I am on an extensive road trip visiting dealers.)

While I am on that subject if you buy a bike on price alone you are a fool and you know what they say about a fool and his money. (Not referring specifically to you, but rather to the concept). It has been discussed endlessly on this board, but how is a dealer who is discounting going to stay open, especially in this economy? Given the economic conditions it is unlikely at best. Also when something does come up,
 who is going to give you the best treatment, the guy who made a profit on the bike and wants and needs you as a customer or the guy who either lost money or made almost nothing? The rule is that any RE dealer has to repair any RE under warranty that comes to them, but…………. A fellow can sit in the back of the shop for a long time……


Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Kevin Mahoney on September 05, 2010, 09:49:16 pm
We GAVE a Sunl away and the customer was pissed if that tells you anything.
(I normally don't tolerate bashing another product but they are out of business now,)

 I have let this thread go on, but today I reached my limit. I have also NEVER bashed a dealer, but a fellow can only take so much BS.

The TOS say that if you have a complaint it does not belong here but rather with someone who can actually do something like us or your dealer. I can also assure you any dealer that has a problem or complaint gets immediate 911 service from us. Vince can chime in if he wants to,
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: r80rt on September 05, 2010, 09:50:27 pm
I don't begrudge one penny I spent on dealer prep, I've got a hell of a good bike and a hell of a good dealer out of the deal. :D
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: UncleErnie on September 05, 2010, 10:31:42 pm
If it makes anyone feel any better, I recommend RE's to people. 
I've enjoyed this thread because it helps me understand some things.  I don't think anyone is bashing the brand or the motorcycles.   

I imagine when you're on the front lines like Mr Mahoney and S, Bub, it might be possible to lose the perspective of the "man on the street".  From talks I have,  The Royal Enfield name is still dragged through the mud.  I have a feeling it;s going to take more than one or two good magazine reviews to get over that completely.  That's why it took me so long to buy one- and I felt like I was stepping off a cliff at the time.

At any rate- no specific dealers or names were bashed.  I feel like continued HONEST discussion can only do the whole family good.  Continued ministrations and hands-on sessions like this can only help.   

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 05, 2010, 10:46:15 pm
If it makes anyone feel any better, I recommend RE's to people. 
I've enjoyed this thread because it helps me understand some things.  I don't think anyone is bashing the brand or the motorcycles.   

I imagine when you're on the front lines like Mr Mahoney and S, Bub, it might be possible to lose the perspective of the "man on the street".  From talks I have,  The Royal Enfield name is still dragged through the mud.  I have a feeling it;s going to take more than one or two good magazine reviews to get over that completely.  That's why it took me so long to buy one- and I felt like I was stepping off a cliff at the time.

At any rate- no specific dealers or names were bashed.  I feel like continued HONEST discussion can only do the whole family good.  Continued ministrations and hands-on sessions like this can only help.   

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
HEAR, HEAR,!!!!   ;)
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Geirskogul on September 06, 2010, 12:19:54 am
I thought Sun-L, Tank, Roketa, Xianguiaghlddfsjoer (whaterver, zhang-zwuah), were the "buy two so you have parts" scooters.  You see them on ebay for 5-700 dollars with free shipping.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Vince on September 06, 2010, 01:20:23 am

The TOS say that if you have a complaint it does not belong here but rather with someone who can actually do something like us or your dealer. I can also assure you any dealer that has a problem or complaint gets immediate 911 service from us. Vince can chime in if he wants to,
    Kevin and his crew have NEVER blown off a customer. Unlike every other brand I have been with, the folks at the distributor are deeply involved with their customers. If a problem is not resolved at the dealer level (this is the first step for a customer) then call CMW directly. They will take you seriously and work towards a resolution.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: 3rdgear on September 10, 2010, 04:44:23 am
Just wanted to let the group know that I have not given up on the dream.  In fact, the more I read the more I want one.  Classic styling aside, I want a thinking mans bike, you know like the old days.

So what's next?  this Saturday I will be heading up to the dealer in Portland with a fist full of dollars.  Yes, I will test drive the bike first.  Thanks to all of you, I am more prepared than ever.

Take care!
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 10, 2010, 05:02:17 am
Good luck and let us know! ;)
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 10, 2010, 05:11:11 am
There was a military and a teal one when I was there on Tuesday.  G5s too.

Scott
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: r80rt on September 10, 2010, 01:13:45 pm
What did you get??
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 10, 2010, 03:58:56 pm
What did you get??

It's not Saturday yet silly!
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: r80rt on September 10, 2010, 04:13:15 pm
Hell, I can't wait for good news! :D
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 10, 2010, 05:58:26 pm
 Man, I'm thinking he goes Military?  Gentlemen's Bet Anyone? ::) And no cheater's from anyone who knows him. >:(
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 10, 2010, 06:06:35 pm
There mighta been a red one there too, can't remember.

Scratch that,  No red but there was a black one in the showroom.  I was only remembering what was out in the lot.

Scott
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 10, 2010, 11:10:44 pm
There mighta been a red one there too, can't remember.

Scratch that,  No red but there was a black one in the showroom.  I was only remembering what was out in the lot.

Scott

 Scotty, now you know that ain't no fair! >:(  I would have bet on on black if I had know that !!! I'm stick"in. ::)
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: meilaushi on September 11, 2010, 01:20:05 pm
I don't begrudge one penny I spent on dealer prep, I've got a hell of a good bike and a hell of a good dealer out of the deal. :D
Amen to that, Bro!  My dealer, Matt, charges for setup and both bikes I've gotten from him are winners.  Jerry, the chief technical Guru, always takes a new bike out for a 30-40 mile run after setup to begin breakin properly and to check everything out and make sure all is in top notch shape.  I figure that setup work is worth every penny!  A great dealer there in Hubbard, Ohio!  I'm glad they're there! :-*
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 11, 2010, 04:32:55 pm
Jerry, the chief technical Guru, always takes a new bike out for a 30-40 mile run after setup to begin breakin properly and to check everything out and make sure all is in top notch shape.

"Jerry!  Are you slacking off and riding again while you're supposed to be working?!?"

"No Boss!  I was checking the setup and starting the break in process properly."

I'd do that too if I could call it work and get paid for it  ;D

Scott
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: gashousegorilla on September 11, 2010, 05:50:09 pm
"Jerry!  Are you slacking off and riding again while you're supposed to be working?!?"

"No Boss!  I was checking the setup and starting the break in process properly."

I'd do that too if I could call it work and get paid for it  ;D

Scott
:D :D  Yea, right.  ::)
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: r80rt on September 11, 2010, 07:56:06 pm
OK, Now it's Saturday,what did you get??
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: stickyfox on September 11, 2010, 08:22:04 pm
I don't know how REs are shipped, but I used to work at a kawasaki dealer, and those bikes took a heck of a lot of work to set up. They came in a crate about half the size of the assembled bike. We charged nothing for this service; it's part of being a dealer. I wouldn't suspect setup to be that much of an unexpected chore.

I know I'm behind the power curve.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Kevin Mahoney on September 11, 2010, 09:26:36 pm
There is assembly and then there is set-up. The bikes come in a hug wooden crate. The front wheel and fender need to be assembled, one turn signal bolted on and a battery installed. You can teach a monkey to do that.

The setup is the real key to a good bike. When we were selling iron barrels which could be problematic given the adjustments etc that needed to be made, you could tell the assemblers from the set-up people.

We had dealers whose customers had trouble all the time and dealers whose customers NEVER had trouble. (Vince is one of the latter).

Moving on to the UCE bikes there is nothing to adjust except the chain. But a good (or even decent) dealer will touch every last nut, screw and bolt on the bike to make sure they are tight, no pinched wires etc. They will check wheel alignment, tyre pressure, detail the bike etc. They will then ride the bike. I don't mean around the block but several miles at least. After the ride if anything shows up take care of it and then deliver it. The owner should never be the test pilot.  A good dealer can say with total confidence that they know the bike is correct for the customer

We find that the entire key to a happy customer lies with a dealer who sets the bike up properly, gives the owner good instruction etc.

A dealer who is actually doing a "prep" job and is not just an assembler should be paid for his work. You will thank him every time you get on the bike.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: ScooterBob on September 12, 2010, 12:06:10 am
This was true of all the bikes that I sent out the door as a dealer. I sold a few Iron Barrel bikes - and save for one that was "possessed  ::)" I never got one back for any disasters or any big complaints. I had ONE guy threaten to sue me - but I screwed a spark plug into his bike and started it in one swat - that ended that without a word said ... poor guy.

The UCE bikes STILL take a bit of set up to be RIGHT - as Kevin said - they are easy enough to slap the wheel on and take the plastic off of. The fellows in the Factory are under enormous pressure to produce bikes about now - they are, according to a recent article, about NINE MONTHS behind on some models. Dealers know this - and GOOD ones know that THEY are the last in line for QC issues. A good dealer will treat EVERY BIKE like it was his very own (personal responsibility!) and YOU will never see it until it's right. That's worth a few dollars - and  LOT of peace of mind in MY book.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Vince on September 12, 2010, 12:45:13 am
     Thanks for the kudos, Kevin! I would like to mention that on all the new bikes the wiring connections for the fuel injection and ignition circuits should be unplugged, coated in di-electric grease, and reinstalled. Other connections are checked also. Cables are adjusted. Clutch adjustment is checked. Lights are checked. Oil and brake fluid is topped off. Go around the wheels and check spoke tension and adjust as necessary. The chain should be lubed. Attention to detail really pays off in the long run.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: 3rdgear on September 12, 2010, 02:05:23 am
Made the pilgrimage the Portland RE Dealer.  To my surprise they had in stock several C5's and G5's in several color options.  Met Justin the owner and Pedro (Mechanic), both are super nice guys that you can tell are proud RE dealers.  They offered to let me test ride both models and I took them up on the offer.

I have to say both models are great.  I was abit concerned about the C5 speed wobble issue so I of course I had to see what all the fuss is about.  To my surprise, no wobble at 50, 55, 60 or 65.  I took my hand of the bars at 60 and still no wobble (kids do not try this at home).  Having owned 14 bikes in my 25 year riding history (I'm 41), I must say that both the C5 and G5 are fine machines and anyone with second thoughts should test ride.

Before I end this tale, I have to mention that what first interested me in the new RE UCE bikes was a picture I came across of a G5 Deluxe.  When I went to purchase one at my local shop, the dealer told me that they were not available in the US.

When I pulled into the parking lot of the Portland shop there she was glimmering in the sun light, a 2010 G5 Deluxe.  This was the first one I had seen in person and it was love at first sight.  So after my test rides, I asked if it was for sale.  Justin said he wanted to hold on to this one but would order another.  So I put a deposit down and should have my dream bike in the next few weeks.

P.S. I want to thank Ducati Scotty for referring me to this shop.  When I mentioned Scott reffed me, Justin mentioned that he's a great guy and a wealth of motorcycle knowledge.  May be some day I will get to ride with the legend but one dream at a time...

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Post by: r80rt on September 12, 2010, 02:10:07 am
Excellent choice!
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 12, 2010, 02:12:52 am
 Congradulations, that is a beutifull bike !
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Post by: Cabo Cruz on September 12, 2010, 02:57:37 am
Good for you, Br. Gear!
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Post by: Kevin Mahoney on September 12, 2010, 03:24:01 am
Actually Justin ordered your bike today. Think I should sit on the order for a while? Maybe see if I time it just right so you get the last Deluxe in inventory - or not?

I did get a notice today from the factory that they are temporarily discontinuing production of the Deluxes. .Good thing we got what we did when we did. We are the only country that orders them so I suppose sooner or later they may decide it's not worth it. The chrome tanks are really a lot of work. My first RE started life as a Black Deluxe. You will love the bike and they are becoming increasingly hard to get. (It is the original ES prototype.)

If any of your are looking for one and sitting on the fence better get off while the gettin is good. Time to go to your dealer.






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Post by: prof_stack on September 12, 2010, 03:45:17 am
Actually Justin ordered your bike today. Think I should sit on the order for a while? Maybe see if I time it just right so you get the last Deluxe in inventory - or not?  ...

Kevin, you are SUCH a tease! 

I'll admit that the photo of the G5 Deluxe on the CMW page reminds me of the first ad I saw for the '78 Yamaha SR500, which I bought back then.  They were photographed at the same angle.  But the Deluxe did not make it to the new Seattle dealer.

The first two models they sold (in 2 days) have been replaced by the same two (C5 black and C5 Military). 

CONGRAT's 3rdGEAR!  You'll have a blast on it!!!
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Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 12, 2010, 03:23:22 pm
Congrats 3rdgear!  I know Justin and Pedro were really anxious waiting for the deluxe.  Ok, me too.  I need to sneak down there at lunch Tuesday and take a peek at it.  They get emotionally attached to the bikes and it's hard to let them go.  I bought the first C5 they got in.  I was picking it up the next day and Pedro had planned to ride it home but was outranked since Justin had to say goodbye to it.  Passionate motorcyclists.

Oh, and I'm no legend.  In polite society I'm barely presentable ;)

Scott
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Post by: meilaushi on September 12, 2010, 04:17:31 pm
I did get a notice today from the factory that they are temporarily discontinuing production of the Deluxes. .Good thing we got what we did when we did. We are the only country that orders them so I suppose sooner or later they may decide it's not worth it. The chrome tanks are really a lot of work. My first RE started life as a Black Deluxe. You will love the bike and they are becoming increasingly hard to get. (It is the original ES prototype.)

If any of your are looking for one and sitting on the fence better get off while the gettin is good. Time to go to your dealer.
I ordered my G-5 Deluxe 2 months ago from Matt Lokso, my fine Hubbard OH dealer. Just got it Last Saturday.  But boy, given this news, I'm glad I did.  It's a Beautiful bike and though I haven't had it over 40mph yet -- breakin, y' know -- it runs like a dream.  Harley riders even wave to me, wouldja believe?  Glad I threw my hat in the ring for one when I did!  :D  Congrats to all who have one or have one ordered!  Hope Chennai doesn't quit making them till' everybody who wants one has one... Incidentally, Matt said just the chrome on the deluxe is worth way more than the additional $100 over the standard -- if you were to try to get the tank and fenders chromed around here [Matt's also a member of the Ohio Valley BSA Owners club and every year they redo a Beeser and raffle it at the fall rally, so he's real familiar with chroming prices.  Anyway, I think it's one sharp looking and riding motorcycle!
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Post by: UncleErnie on September 12, 2010, 04:30:48 pm
Oh, and I'm no legend.  In police society I'm barely presentable ;)

Scott


Fixed your spelling for ya.   
(I'm picky about these thinfs..."


I'm so happy;  I recently picked up a chrome Deluxe tank for $50! 
Hahahahahahaha
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Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 12, 2010, 05:34:08 pm
Yeah, I thought the additional $100 for the deluxe was a bargain at twice the price.  There's nothing quite like the vintage look of a chromed tank.  The Ducat Monster Chromo was a sweet looking recent design.

Scott
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Post by: clubman on September 12, 2010, 08:56:52 pm

I did get a notice today from the factory that they are temporarily discontinuing production of the Deluxes. .Good thing we got what we did when we did. We are the only country that orders them so I suppose sooner or later they may decide it's not worth it. The chrome tanks are really a lot of work. My first RE started life as a Black Deluxe. You will love the bike and they are becoming increasingly hard to get. (It is the original ES prototype.)

If any of your are looking for one and sitting on the fence better get off while the gettin is good. Time to go to your dealer.


Quite shocked to hear this! Watsonian still advertise the Deluxe on their UK website. It's so much better looking than the standard G5. Makes me wonder if the G5 will disappear too? I sure hope not. We need a base model for all the custom versions that are out there and the Classic is way too distictive to be that. It's also a great bike in its own right.

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Post by: Kevin Mahoney on September 12, 2010, 09:40:24 pm
Oddly enough in Europe the E5 and C5 are what sell. The E5 is the Electra with it's special paint and UCE engines. I brought in a few and they sold very slowly. I like the E5 but I am concerned about what kind of market there is here.

We don't think they will discontinue the G5, at least there have not been any rumblings to that effect
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Post by: REpozer on September 12, 2010, 10:36:47 pm
We don't think they will discontinue the G5, at least there have not been any rumblings to that effect
If REM makes that sad choise, I will be lost as a potential future custumer.
Not interested in a C5 , wheels too little ,no kick starter, and a loser seat (  solo ,cuz yur too ugly to get a girl to ride)...no thanks.
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Post by: Maturin on September 12, 2010, 11:29:39 pm
We are the only country that orders them so I suppose sooner or later they may decide it's not worth it.

Hi Kevin!
In Germany the Deluxes are sold aswell, and guess what: the price is the same like the standard E5 without Chrome. I couldn´t believe it! Obviously there was no reason to order a standard modell.
When REM wishes to earn money with motorcycles, i´d consider it smart if they would calculate prices like anyone else does: after adding their costs. They don´t want to sell Deluxes because the costs are to high? They should mark it up instead of dropping it. Do I miss something or is that odd?
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 13, 2010, 02:19:05 am
Quite shocked to hear this! Watsonian still advertise the Deluxe on their UK website. It's so much better looking than the standard G5. Makes me wonder if the G5 will disappear too? I sure hope not. We need a base model for all the custom versions that are out there and the Classic is way too distictive to be that. It's also a great bike in its own right.


What exactly makes the C-5 too restrictive to customize? I think it's a pretty versatile platform to work with. I think it would very easy to turn a C-5 into a cafe racer. shorter wheel base, lighter frame I believe, same power plant.
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Post by: holodeck on September 13, 2010, 04:38:12 am
Kevin,
What is the ratio of C-5 to G-5 sold in te US ?
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Post by: clubman on September 13, 2010, 08:56:42 am
What exactly makes the C-5 too restrictive to customize? I think it's a pretty versatile platform to work with. I think it would very easy to turn a C-5 into a cafe racer. shorter wheel base, lighter frame I believe, same power plant.

I think the side panels, batery box, mudguards and fork covers belong too distinctly to one era to do anything else with. Of course you could build a cafe racer from the frame and engine alone but that will make the conversion even more expensive than it already is and you will still end up with a bike without a kickstart.
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 13, 2010, 05:27:05 pm
I think the side panels, batery box, mudguards and fork covers belong too distinctly to one era to do anything else with. Of course you could build a cafe racer from the frame and engine alone but that will make the conversion even more expensive than it already is and you will still end up with a bike without a kickstart.
Clubman, I agree with you that there may be a few more items to change as compared to the standard G-5. Tool box's, fork shrouds to gaiters.Battery box can stay. Remove tool box. Mudguards are changed or removed on yours. No? As far as the kick start is concerned, I do like them, and would want one. But it's redundent, and not needed. It's just extra wieght. Unless there blanking off the starter on your clubman, and running a kicker only? As far as cost is concerned, loosing the alloy tank would be a big savings, although it's beutifull, a steel tank could be used in it's place. You may still end up with a ligher bike? It is very do-able on the C-5.
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Post by: clubman on September 13, 2010, 09:40:08 pm
No, mudguards weren't changed on mine, just standard black G5 ones so cheaper than chrome! Kickstart has earned its keep on mine, believe me. The sprag clutch went on my starter motor so it was kick start only for a week. See other solenoid issues on this board as well. Once bitten, twice shy as far as I'm concerned - I don't think RE have proved that they can safely remove the kickstart as yet.
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Post by: Warwick on September 13, 2010, 10:39:27 pm
I own two RE's and would not have one without a kick start. I only use the kickstart as I know all the problems and expense associated with the electric start repairs. Anyway its so easy to start with the kickstart!
I have to agree that stopping production of the G5 would be a mistake. A cafe racer with little wheels (C5)would look weird particularly as the current G5 based specials look so fantastic.
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Post by: ScooterBob on September 13, 2010, 10:43:58 pm
Clubman, I agree with you that there may be a few more items to change as compared to the standard G-5. Tool box's, fork shrouds to gaiters.Battery box can stay. Remove tool box. Mudguards are changed or removed on yours. No? As far as the kick start is concerned, I do like them, and would want one. But it's redundent, and not needed. It's just extra wieght. Unless there blanking off the starter on your clubman, and running a kicker only? As far as cost is concerned, loosing the alloy tank would be a big savings, although it's beutifull, a steel tank could be used in it's place. You may still end up with a ligher bike? It is very do-able on the C-5.

Oh, DEAR! Don't get THIS guy started! I've SEEN his work before ..... You don't tell him "No ..." or "You can't do that!" - Hahahaha! 'Cuz I think he CAN! He's got a metal magma-fier or some such .... and he can USE it!  ;)
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Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 13, 2010, 10:44:36 pm
I've got a C5 but must agree that the G5 makes a nicer base for a cafe bike.

Scott
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 14, 2010, 12:50:47 am
Oh, DEAR! Don't get THIS guy started! I've SEEN his work before ..... You don't tell him "No ..." or "You can't do that!" - Hahahaha! 'Cuz I think he CAN! He's got a metal magma-fier or some such .... and he can USE it!  ;)
I've got a C5 but must agree that the G5 makes a nicer base for a cafe bike.

Scott
You's two Guy's are just tring to get me all fired up, Ain't ya?......................Maybe perhaps we could get him to fall into that trap, Huh?..........UMMMMMMMM?????
 Well I tell you two smart alec's something, I may PERHAPS  be up to the challenge ,If you's two's are. And another little cafe prodject I'm work'in on MAY just have to wait.
 I must think on this a bit :-\ A little healthy Yank vs Brit friendly competition, might be fun?............ LIT-TLE wheels Huh?  UMMMMMMMMMMM? Is that all you got?

Clubman my friend, would you kindly list the changes made to your bike? I'll give you the front fender, although it looks a little different then a stock G-5.What  was the cost of your bike? In US dollers, please.
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Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 14, 2010, 12:57:06 am
Dude, it's 'youz' with a 'z'.  I live on the west coast now but I know Jersey.  If you don't spell it that way no one outside the tri-state area will get the proper pronunciation ;)

I think you could make the C5 into a nice cafe bike but I think you'd need to cut off less and change less on a G5.  Also, and maybe this is just me, the speedo face plates say everything about the character of the bike.  The C5 says classic 50's beauty bike, the G5 says edgy Brit performance bike.  It's always the little things.

Scott
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Post by: ScooterBob on September 14, 2010, 01:02:48 am
You's two Guy's are just tring to get me all fired up, Ain't ya?......................Maybe perhaps we could get him to fall into that trap, Huh?..........UMMMMMMMM?????
 Well I tell you two smart alec's something, I may PERHAPS  be up to the challenge ,If you's two's are. And another little cafe prodject I'm work'in on MAY just have to wait.
 I must think on this a bit :-\ A little healthy Yank vs Brit friendly competition, might be fun?............ LIT-TLE wheels Huh?  UMMMMMMMMMMM? Is that all you got?

Clubman my friend, would you kindly list the changes made to your bike? I'll give you the front fender, although it looks a little different then a stock G-5.What  was the cost of your bike? In US dollers, please.

You are GOING to make me cut up a perfectly good wrecked C5 aren't you .......  ::)
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 14, 2010, 01:36:07 am
Dude, it's 'youz' with a 'z'.  I live on the west coast now but I know Jersey.  If you don't spell it that way no one outside the tri-state area will get the proper pronunciation ;)

I think you could make the C5 into a nice cafe bike but I think you'd need to cut off less and change less on a G5.  Also, and maybe this is just me, the speedo face plates say everything about the character of the bike.  The C5 says classic 50's beauty bike, the G5 says edgy Brit performance bike.  It's always the little things.

Scott
You are GOING to make me cut up a perfectly good wrecked C5 aren't you .......  ::)
Quite right Scotty, "youz" would be more apropos. I lost myself there for a moment. Gauges you say? Edgy? A minor detail. Yes you may need to cut off less on a G-5, but what fun would that be? Anyone can buy a cafe racer.
 Yes scooterbob, I think we may have to let some sparks fly. May I enqire about that 2 up seat for the C-5? Would the pan be made of steel? ;) 
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Post by: clubman on September 14, 2010, 09:00:03 am
You's two Guy's are just tring to get me all fired up, Ain't ya?......................Maybe perhaps we could get him to fall into that trap, Huh?..........UMMMMMMMM?????
 Well I tell you two smart alec's something, I may PERHAPS  be up to the challenge ,If you's two's are. And another little cafe prodject I'm work'in on MAY just have to wait.
 I must think on this a bit :-\ A little healthy Yank vs Brit friendly competition, might be fun?............ LIT-TLE wheels Huh?  UMMMMMMMMMMM? Is that all you got?

Clubman my friend, would you kindly list the changes made to your bike? I'll give you the front fender, although it looks a little different then a stock G-5.What  was the cost of your bike? In US dollers, please.

First paragrpah: go for it!  :)

Second para: Cost at an exchange rate of 1.50 was $7,500 when I bought it but has now gone up to $8,250. Changes made are alloy tank, ace bars, rearsets, seat unit with removeable cover at back and Goldie exhaust system. The exhaust system can be readily bought for $150 so is certainly not expensive. All the bits are good quality and the tank in particular screams cost. Of course we must also factor in labour set up cost. On the other hand the standard parts are retained by the importer to sell on as spares and the cat exhaust must cost a bit. (Probably so much that no-one is buying them over aftermarket stuff.  ;D )
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Post by: ScooterBob on September 14, 2010, 11:38:45 am
GHG - The bum stop seat that I have lying around somewhere is a glass-fibre one of old - HOWEVER - I'm getting an idea with a stock Iron Barrel seat pan and the metal magma maker ..... I need to tune up my welder anyway ....
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 14, 2010, 02:35:04 pm
First paragrpah: go for it!  :)

Second para: Cost at an exchange rate of 1.50 was $7,500 when I bought it but has now gone up to $8,250. Changes made are alloy tank, ace bars, rearsets, seat unit with removeable cover at back and Goldie exhaust system. The exhaust system can be readily bought for $150 so is certainly not expensive. All the bits are good quality and the tank in particular screams cost. Of course we must also factor in labour set up cost. On the other hand the standard parts are retained by the importer to sell on as spares and the cat exhaust must cost a bit. (Probably so much that no-one is buying them over aftermarket stuff.  ;D )
GHG - The bum stop seat that I have lying around somewhere is a glass-fibre one of old - HOWEVER - I'm getting an idea with a stock Iron Barrel seat pan and the metal magma maker ..... I need to tune up my welder anyway ....
Thanks clubman, usefull info there.
Watch out!  The master is wipping out the mother of all magic metal magmatizer......things?
Great idea bob!  IMHO, we don't need no stink'in rear fender, do we? Hides that nice back wheel, ya know? Maybe one of your nice lay down licence plate holders, mounted off the back of the cowl with a bracket? Sorry, you the boss, I'm the hoss ::)
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Post by: meilaushi on September 14, 2010, 03:03:13 pm
Dude, it's 'youz' with a 'z'.  I live on the west coast now but I know Jersey.  If you don't spell it that way no one outside the tri-state area will get the proper pronunciation ;)

Scott
And in the 'Burgh (Pittsburgh), it's always "Yinz" or (seldom) "You-uns".  Youz we woudln't unnerstand nohow.   ;D

Be neat to see a comparison of a nice duded up C-5 and G-5.  Go to it! :D
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 14, 2010, 04:01:11 pm
And in the 'Burgh (Pittsburgh), it's always "Yinz" or (seldom) "You-uns".  Youz we woudln't unnerstand nohow.   ;D

Be neat to see a comparison of a nice duded up C-5 and G-5.  Go to it! :D
As in "YINZ GUYZ" ?  or "You-uns guyz" ? Would the "Guyz'"  be dropped? "Youz" is pretty versitile in our area. It can also be used to refer to farm animals. In the rare occasion we get to venture into the country, you may here " Yo, kidz look out the winda, I tink I seez some youz!" :D
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Post by: meilaushi on September 14, 2010, 04:23:14 pm
Bang on on the "Yinz Guyz"!  Local Scooter club's name's "The Scootin' Yinzers."  The "You-uns Guys" invariably get elided to the much more ubiquitous "Yinz"  -- we iz lazy: "Yinz" is easier to say than "You-uns" -- one less sibbulul ... or somepin' like that! ;D
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 14, 2010, 09:49:47 pm
Bang on on the "Yinz Guyz"!  Local Scooter club's name's "The Scootin' Yinzers."  The "You-uns Guys" invariably get elided to the much more ubiquitous "Yinz"  -- we iz lazy: "Yinz" is easier to say than "You-uns" -- one less sibbulul ... or somepin' like that! ;D
Man thats crazy!  But I like it! Like a combination of north and south. What would Yinz call , a long rolled samwich, with Italian lunch meats on it?
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Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 14, 2010, 10:46:02 pm
As soon as Justin realized he could get another Deluxe in stock quickly he agreed to give the one he had to 3rdgear.  I just saw them prepping it and heard them start it up.  It looks good and sounds good.  3rdgear is coming by to pick it up soon.  

All the chrome on that bike helps offset the hot dog boxes, I like it better than the regular G5.  It's a really nice looking machine.  Interestingly, the Deluxe gets the older style, larger knee pads compared to the smaller ones on the C5.

Scott
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 14, 2010, 11:11:15 pm
As soon as Justin realized he could get another Deluxe in stock quickly he agreed to give the one he had to 3rdgear.  I just saw them prepping it and heard them start it up.  It looks good and sounds good.  #rd gear is coming but to pick it up soon.  All the chrome on that bike helps offset the hot dog boxes, I like it better than the regular G5.

Scott

Nice !!!
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Post by: 3rdgear on September 15, 2010, 03:48:46 am
Yes, I am happy to report that I did indeed pick up my baby today.  Got in a 25 mile ride, mostly surface street but what a kick in the pants.  I can not describe the experience in words but can say that it strikes a cord that with me that takes me back to why I got into motorcycles in the first place. Freedom on two wheels.

Did noticed a few oil leaks when I returned from my ride, will try posting pics.  

(https://docs.google.com/a/3rdgear.com/uc?id=0B_GKqZrBs2W_MjY5YTNiZjgtYTRmNy00MjI3LWFmMjctZjJkYTJlM2JmY2Vm&hl=en)
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Post by: prof_stack on September 15, 2010, 04:58:34 am
Yeah, that Classic is a beauty! 
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Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 15, 2010, 06:00:25 am
Did noticed a few oil leaks when I returned from my ride, will try posting pics.  

Welcome to the brotherhood!  Now start tightening bolts ;)

These bikes seem to need a little 'finish work' when you first get them.  No worries, it will be all set soon enough.  Enjoy!

Oh, and that chrome tank looks totally badass!

Scott
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Post by: r80rt on September 15, 2010, 01:04:11 pm
I understand the feeling well! the new ride is gorgeous!
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 15, 2010, 02:08:11 pm
 Beutifull  Bike 3rdgear !!!  Good luck!!
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Post by: 3rdgear on September 15, 2010, 02:22:29 pm
As soon as Justin realized he could get another Deluxe in stock quickly he agreed to give the one he had to 3rdgear.  I just saw them prepping it and heard them start it up.  It looks good and sounds good.  3rdgear is coming by to pick it up soon.  

All the chrome on that bike helps offset the hot dog boxes, I like it better than the regular G5.  It's a really nice looking machine.  Interestingly, the Deluxe gets the older style, larger knee pads compared to the smaller ones on the C5.

Scott

Scott: Apparently I just missed you by few minutes.  Were you wearing a yellow hat?  If so, I may have seen you leaving.
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Post by: Ducati Scotty on September 15, 2010, 04:21:04 pm
Yellow helmet on a teal C5.
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Post by: qgolden on September 15, 2010, 06:07:24 pm
Glad to see you got it sorted out.  Not all "Dealers" will be dealers in the long run.  Good shops will outsell bad shops and the reputation factor will kick in.  We just need to send everyone who is buying, or considering the RE to this forum so they can get the straight dope ahead of time. 

Very nice Bike, Congrats!
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Post by: meilaushi on September 15, 2010, 08:23:06 pm
Man thats crazy!  But I like it! Like a combination of north and south. What would Yinz call , a long rolled samwich, with Italian lunch meats on it?
The Battleship and Destroyer calls it a "Battleship Sandwich" -- it's 3 feet long and filled to the gills with salami, ham, cheese, shredded lettuce, tomato slices and Italian salad dressing.  The "Destroyer" is only a foot long. Rick Seback, the Pittsburgh Video Historian has immortalized the place and the sandwiches in one of his 'Burgh videos on PBS.  But some at other foodie places call 'em Subs and some call 'em Hoagies.  .... Like, "Yinz wanna sub?"  "Yinz want some hoagies?" ;D

But the REAL other sandwich around here is the Primanti's sandwich--Whatever kind of meat etc. you want piled on a large square bun specially baked, with shredded lettuce, tomato slices, and a pile (yes a pile) of french fries on all that with the other piece of the square bun on top.  Stands 4-5" tall.  You can ask 'em to leave off the fries at Primanti Brothers, but they won't.  Signature Sandwich. Primanti's Pastrami Sandwich is to die for... or rather to ride yer bullet 25 miles for.  ;D
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Post by: gashousegorilla on September 16, 2010, 03:29:59 am
The Battleship and Destroyer calls it a "Battleship Sandwich" -- it's 3 feet long and filled to the gills with salami, ham, cheese, shredded lettuce, tomato slices and Italian salad dressing.  The "Destroyer" is only a foot long. Rick Seback, the Pittsburgh Video Historian has immortalized the place and the sandwiches in one of his 'Burgh videos on PBS.  But some at other foodie places call 'em Subs and some call 'em Hoagies.  .... Like, "Yinz wanna sub?"  "Yinz want some hoagies?" ;D

But the REAL other sandwich around here is the Primanti's sandwich--Whatever kind of meat etc. you want piled on a large square bun specially baked, with shredded lettuce, tomato slices, and a pile (yes a pile) of french fries on all that with the other piece of the square bun on top.  Stands 4-5" tall.  You can ask 'em to leave off the fries at Primanti Brothers, but they won't.  Signature Sandwich. Primanti's Pastrami Sandwich is to die for... or rather to ride yer bullet 25 miles for.  ;D


Got cha Cuz. Always wondered why some people call them "hoagies" what the heck is a  "hoagie"? Some sort a critter? :D We call them subs, cause of there obvious shape.Like a U-Boat. Yinz Guyz seem alright. and your samwitches even better :D
 I may just have to take a cruise down there the next time the G-men play da Steelas, and get me a Primanti Samwitch. And I suspect we also share the same utter, "feelings", For the Cowboyz ;)
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: Kevin Mahoney on September 18, 2010, 03:26:29 am
Somehow someone got the idea that Deluxes were not available in CA. Black Deluxe are and will remain available for the foreseeable future and remember we have a pipline. I have two Deluxe in the first container of CA bikes marked for a couple of people who ponied up to the Bar and left deposits. Shame to miss them as the first 100 CA bikes will be numbered.
Title: Re: C5: Refused Shipment
Post by: meilaushi on September 18, 2010, 10:47:08 pm


Got cha Cuz. Always wondered why some people call them "hoagies" what the heck is a  "hoagie"? Some sort a critter? :D We call them subs, cause of there obvious shape.Like a U-Boat. Yinz Guyz seem alright. and your samwitches even better :D
 I may just have to take a cruise down there the next time the G-men play da Steelas, and get me a Primanti Samwitch. And I suspect we also share the same utter, "feelings", For the Cowboyz ;)
You got it, Bro!  Yinz get to da 'Burgh, ya gotta have a Primanti Samwich!  Ya ain't lived 'till ya do, Butcha won't want supper after, er maybe even the next two or three meals!   ;D  And yeah, Usn's like waving the Terrible Towels and blowin' the 'Cowboys' off their game.  (sometimes it works and sometimes it don't).  ;D