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Campfire Talk / Re: Why do less and less bikes have tachs?
« Last Post by Keef Sparrow on Today at 08:11:07 pm »
I think virtually all modern bikes have had rev limiters for many years now, and they largely make rev counters obsolete as you can't over rev the bike even if you try.
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Campfire Talk / Free home Covid tests
« Last Post by Richard230 on Today at 07:54:30 pm »
As of today you can order four free home Covid testing kits paid for by the U.S. government by visiting this website. They will be shipped directly to your home via the USPS: www.COVIDTests.gov
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650 Twin - Interceptor/GT / Re: Euro 5, snorkel, the B word etc….
« Last Post by N1ckelarse on Today at 07:49:27 pm »
The stock cans actually flow pretty well....biggest advantages with aftermarket exhaust is weight reduction as well as the cans run cooler minus the cats.   You still have cats in the bottom of the head pipes and the diameter does form a bit of a restriction as well so the exhaust flow is not greatly out of stock parameters with just aftermarket cans.   I do think you get a little midrange bump from can replacement but nothing really dramatic.

The 'snorkel' isn't really much of a restriction...more of a noise abatement device along with being a primary filtering obstruction that large particles won't be able to make the turn to get into the filter element.   A lower restriction filter with the stock snorkel also offers a little performance advantage but again nothing dramatic that the stock ECU cannot account for.

Going to large diameter head pipes....minus cats....does start to get things beyond what the stock ECU will play nice with and is also why most report adding the pipes didn't offer a noticeable performance gain, and my experience mirrors this.   Now with the PowerTronic ECU tuner and some judicious tweaking you can get the pipes to sing and a decent performance bump can be had.   The bike runs very nicely in this state and many would be very happy with the amount of power it makes, but if you want more then cam replacement is needed.   With more cam there's quite a bit more power to be had but then you're looking at extending the factory redline and airbox tuning changes to fully take advantage of them.   A fully snorted up 650 will run pretty strongly (enough to need more clutch holding power) so you've got lots of potential to play with in the future if you should want it.

That’s perfect - just what I wanted - thanks :)

Nick
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Bullet Iron Barrel / Re: Sales brochures
« Last Post by Warwick on Today at 07:40:46 pm »
I wish Oz got the velvet green colour
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350 Meteor/Classic / Meteor 350 Hills
« Last Post by Piranha on Today at 07:25:33 pm »
I am thinking about getting a Meteor 350. In test rode one locally on city streets and loved it.  I think it's a great match for zipping around town. I rarely will go on highways, so the top speed is not as big of a concern.

My question and worry is how does it perform on steeper hills? Does it have enough power to get over long steep roads? We live near an area with mountains, and at times I'd want to ride up or through them to parks and stuff. (On paved roads, not dirt or anything).

Also, I read that it can handle a passenger, but have only seen that on flat roads. Would I be able to bring my wife to the top of a mountain area without issues? Or will I need something else with more power? (Both of us are about average adult weight)

Any experiences to share would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Campfire Talk / Re: Why do less and less bikes have tachs?
« Last Post by zimmemr on Today at 07:02:10 pm »
100%.  Totally indifferent to ABS/Traction control; just let me see my revs already!

Lots of Moto-guzzi, Ducati, Indian, Triumph, etc. bikes no longer come with a tach that had them on similar models 10 years ago or less.  Or you only see them on "special" models these days.  You would think it would be a pretty important thing to have on a vehicle with a manual transmission.   A ton of bikes are "single gauge" these days.  I can't stand digital gauges either but thats a story for another thread i guess.

For the sake of conversation that was just as true 30, 40 or 50 years ago. Back in the day a tach was often used to denote a "sporting" version of a bike. For example, the single carb/low compression BSA 650 Thunderbolt had only a speedometer while it's sportier brothers the Lightening and Spitfire to name just two came with both instruments. Likewise, the Harley Sportster, the hot rod CH came with a tach while the more sedate H model had only a speedo. BMW /2's only offered them as options no matter what you bought. I'd offer it was the influx of Japanese bikes in the 60's, many of which came with tachs, that made them a standard fitment. 
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Campfire Talk / Re: Why do less and less bikes have tachs?
« Last Post by NVDucati on Today at 06:42:25 pm »
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So many bikes I won't consider because they no longer include tacho's.  What is going on here?
In a hyphenated word; rev-limiters.
That plus folks who use programmable ECUs you can adjust where exactly the rev-limiter kicks in.
But I completely agree with you about wanting a tach. I think that if I want a particular bike that doesn't come one ... I'd buy an induction tach. They are very affordable and accurate. You can choose whatever style/size display you want.
One of a giddle choices comes with 7 colors of faces for $35.
https://www.amazon.com/SREUOIL-52mm-Tachometer-Tacho-Gauge-Smoke-Face-Color-Tinted-Meter-0-8000-RPM-Cylinder/dp/B09D3Q7NVB/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=UW7HCOZFV9XS&keywords=SREUOIL+52mm+Tachometer+2%22+Tacho&qid=1642531281&sprefix=sreuoil+52mm+tachometer+2+tacho%2Caps%2C330&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzUDFaU1BPS01KNzNCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDcyNTkxMUlZMjNVOFFKRVRDNCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjYyODg0N1c3TFpROE9YSDRIJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
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Campfire Talk / Re: Why do less and less bikes have tachs?
« Last Post by viczena on Today at 06:35:48 pm »
Tachs are quite uninteresting. After a short while you hear/feel if the bike runs right.

An excemption would be a  high rev bike without rpm limiter.
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Campfire Talk / Re: Why do less and less bikes have tachs?
« Last Post by Rick Dangerous on Today at 06:31:32 pm »
Personally I'd rather have a tachometer than ABS or traction control but I'm old fashion. Possibly it is due to the current wave of customers being so disassociated from the mechanical aspect of motorcycles as to render it meaningless. Maybe calling it an "RPM App"  and have it accessed from your phone may generate some interest. ;)

100%.  Totally indifferent to ABS/Traction control; just let me see my revs already!

Lots of Moto-guzzi, Ducati, Indian, Triumph, etc. bikes no longer come with a tach that had them on similar models 10 years ago or less.  Or you only see them on "special" models these days.  You would think it would be a pretty important thing to have on a vehicle with a manual transmission.   A ton of bikes are "single gauge" these days.  I can't stand digital gauges either but thats a story for another thread i guess.
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Campfire Talk / Re: Why do less and less bikes have tachs?
« Last Post by zimmemr on Today at 06:31:12 pm »
The #1 piece of information i want on a motorcycle is when i'm about to hit redline so i can shift; yet i notice less and less new bikes have them.  WHY?!

I've been told "well you just sort of listen and feel the powerband and you'll know when to shift". Uh...no thanks, i want to know to the hundredth of an RPM thank you very much.

So many bikes I won't consider because they no longer include tacho's.  What is going on here?

A tach is useful, but there's an awful lot of race bikes that don't use them and the riders seem to wring all the power out of them their engines can muster without knowing where a needle is pointing.  I think that even on race bikes that do use them, mostly road racers and some drag bikes, you'll find the riders don't pay all that much attention to them.

I'd also suggest that if you're running to redline in every gear before shifting, you're basically running into the "empty rev" zone which wastes time and power and can be hard on the motor. Learn to shift when the torque peak drops off, which is always some hundred(s) of rpm before red line, (in some cases 1,000(s)) and you and the bike will be better off for it.
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