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on: November 06, 2022, 10:44:05 pm
Has anyone tried the TEC lowering shocks? I'm ALMOST flat footing with the touring seat, and having a past back operation and a little nerve damage, I'd be a lot more confident at stops completely flat-footed. These seem like a great solution.

Any downside?

Thanks for the advice!
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Reply #1 on: November 07, 2022, 12:23:56 am
If you’re fast you’ll drag pegs, foot controls and the rear stand, also dropping the rear increases the rake slowing steering.  If you pootle about then no real downside other than TEC is hardly high quality but neither are the stockers.
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Reply #2 on: November 07, 2022, 12:32:32 am
Sounds like a stunning endorsement. The price is reasonable, so its not a huge gamble.

Also, I just found a lowering kit from a company called "Way2speed".  The parts are not on their web site, so I emailed for any information.

Scant information about these, but I believe they attach to the bottom of the shocks.

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Reply #3 on: November 07, 2022, 01:49:53 am
Sounds like a stunning endorsement. The price is reasonable, so its not a huge gamble.

Also, I just found a lowering kit from a company called "Way2speed".  The parts are not on their web site, so I emailed for any information.

Scant information about these, but I believe they attach to the bottom of the shocks.

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I've fitted something like these on my 650 Conti. Not from Way2Speed - they didn't bother replying to my queries. Only cost 1,000 baht/£25/US$30 or so. Do the job well. Very easy to fit once you remove the spring. Machined from solid rather than cast. You need to fit the lower bushes from the original shock ends but that's easily done. A cheap alternative to a few hundred ฿/£/$ on new shocks - especially if the OEM shocks are acceptable to you - to see how the lowered bike performs. Reduced shock length 360mm > 340 mm, lowered the back end by about 3/4" and I dropped the fork yokes a bit to compensate for that. No problems with grounding (but I have no centre stand), steering speed or chain clearance, the sidestand is much better to use and my feet can reach the ground easily now, which was the main reason I fitted them.
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Reply #4 on: November 07, 2022, 02:26:15 am
Thanks for the reply. How hard is it to lower the front?
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Reply #5 on: November 07, 2022, 09:46:54 am
Has anyone tried the TEC lowering shocks? I'm ALMOST flat footing with the touring seat, and having a past back operation and a little nerve damage, I'd be a lot more confident at stops completely flat-footed. These seem like a great solution.

Any downside? Only downside is they're cheap Chinese crap like most of TEC stuff.

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Reply #6 on: November 07, 2022, 11:54:48 am
Is it easy to lower the front as well?
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Reply #7 on: November 07, 2022, 01:10:46 pm
I've fitted something like these on my 650 Conti. Not from Way2Speed - they didn't bother replying to my queries. Only cost 1,000 baht/£25/US$30 or so. Do the job well. Very easy to fit once you remove the spring. Machined from solid rather than cast. You need to fit the lower bushes from the original shock ends but that's easily done. A cheap alternative to a few hundred ฿/£/$ on new shocks - especially if the OEM shocks are acceptable to you - to see how the lowered bike performs. Reduced shock length 360mm > 340 mm, lowered the back end by about 3/4" and I dropped the fork yokes a bit to compensate for that. No problems with grounding (but I have no centre stand), steering speed or chain clearance, the sidestand is much better to use and my feet can reach the ground easily now, which was the main reason I fitted them.

Where did you get them from - I can't find them online.


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Reply #8 on: November 07, 2022, 01:26:02 pm
They weren't listed on the way2speed web site.  I emailed the owner, and haven't heard back yet.
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Reply #9 on: November 07, 2022, 01:32:03 pm
They weren't listed on the way2speed web site.  I emailed the owner, and haven't heard back yet.

Same - I asked and haven't had a response.  Any other sources for what looks like a cheap way to try out a lower bike setup?  Sorry btw - I replied to the wrong person there!


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Reply #10 on: November 07, 2022, 02:08:39 pm
I just ordered the TEC shocks. How bad can they be?    It looks like I can loosen the fork tubes and lower the front by about an inch. Is it that easy?
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Reply #11 on: November 07, 2022, 03:18:10 pm
The TEC shocks work just fine. The bike will not lean over as much while on the sidestand, which I also like. If you omit the locknut they can be even lower. There is a limit to this, as if you have a heavy passenger (she was pretty) you may destroy the wires to the rear lights due to tire contact. TEC gives you the option of spring rates when you order.  For the money, this is the best option that I have found.


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Reply #12 on: November 07, 2022, 03:53:58 pm
I'm planning on lowering the rear about an inch, and the front, if its easy, an inch as well.

I'm too old and too ugly for any more girlfriends, I'm afraid.
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Reply #13 on: November 07, 2022, 04:07:37 pm
I'm planning on lowering the rear about an inch, and the front, if its easy, an inch as well.

I'm too old and too ugly for any more girlfriends, I'm afraid.

If you do an inch at the rear, consider a 1/2" to 3/4" on the front.
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Reply #14 on: November 07, 2022, 04:11:21 pm
Is it as easy as it looks? Looks like I just have to loosen the clamps on the forks, and slide it up. It might slide about an inch.
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Reply #15 on: November 08, 2022, 12:31:19 am
I bought from here:-

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I already asked, on behalf of another member here, if he'd ship to Oz - reply was "Yes". Probably other countries too.

Careful if lowering the front end. With the standard 10mm of fork leg above the top yoke, on my bike there was 132mm of leg between lower yoke and fork slider dust seal, fully extended. If you slide by an EXTRA inch (25mm) you're left with NO clearance at full fork travel of 110mm - dangerous. Sliding by an extra 10-12mm should be enough - I used 5mm.
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Reply #16 on: November 22, 2022, 06:14:12 pm
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Reply #17 on: November 22, 2022, 08:31:13 pm
Does he speak english? Has anyone else thied these? They look good.

I'd love to buy a set but haven't figured out how yet. The website doesn't work for me. I think I even found them on Facebook and sent a message but never got a reply.


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Reply #18 on: November 22, 2022, 08:57:10 pm
 Being ancient and of low weight (me, not the 2021 Interceptor) I bought a set of TEC 20mm shorter shocks a year ago.  I liked the better ability to "flatfoot" and the sidestand did not need to be shortened, as it did with my similarly-lowered Honda CB-500F.  I left the forks alone and noticed no difference in handling.

Unfortunately, for me (at 135#/61 kilos) the shocks were too firm and I went with IKONs with a special order 9.5 Newton springs. I kept the TEC shocks too long to return them for refund. 

Anyone in the USA that wants them, unmarked and absolutely as new, please contact me at "expert98d@gmail.com"  $170 shipped to USA address.

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Reply #19 on: November 22, 2022, 08:59:18 pm
CRAP. If I had known you were selling them a week ago. Oh, well.
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Reply #20 on: November 23, 2022, 12:21:05 am
Does he speak english? Has anyone else thied these? They look good.

SPEAK English - I've no idea. He certainly replies to messages in English, perhaps courtesy of Google Translate. I asked my written question in my less-than-perfect Thai and, even then, he replied in English. It must have been clear I wasn't Thai :-).

If you ask a question, keep it simple. Or use Google Translate and send the message in English AND the Thai translation you get. It'll be more understandable and also shows some respect. Often, if a question is even slightly unclear, Thais are reluctant to answer even in their own language.
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Reply #21 on: November 24, 2022, 08:38:22 pm
Trade it in for that gorgeous super meteor ;) Much lower
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Reply #22 on: November 24, 2022, 10:27:02 pm
Trade it in for that gorgeous super meteor ;) Much lower

And heavier. :(
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Reply #23 on: November 25, 2022, 09:00:03 am
I saw the super Meteor at a bike show yesterday, it's a very nice looking bike. BUT... that's a big lump of metal for 47hp to push up the road.
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Reply #24 on: November 25, 2022, 01:09:19 pm
I saw the super Meteor at a bike show yesterday, it's a very nice looking bike. BUT... that's a big lump of metal for 47hp to push up the road.
My ‘big’ Tractor is a 45hp Diesel. It is extremely powerful.  Don’t get caught up too much in absolute numbers.
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Reply #25 on: November 25, 2022, 01:40:41 pm
My ‘big’ Tractor is a 45hp Diesel. It is extremely powerful.  Don’t get caught up too much in absolute numbers.

How much torque? What is the gearing like? There is no comparing the two vehicles whatsoever.
How would your bike feel if some one reduced the power of it to 35hp and the torque to match, that is effectively what the extra weight will do.
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Reply #26 on: November 25, 2022, 02:21:05 pm
How much torque? What is the gearing like? There is no comparing the two vehicles whatsoever.
How would your bike feel if some one reduced the power of it to 35hp and the torque to match, that is effectively what the extra weight will do.
I believe Royal Enfield has stated that the gearing on the Meteor has been changed from the GT & Interceptor.
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Reply #27 on: January 30, 2023, 10:10:20 am
I like those 1000 bhat lower stubs for std shocks any idea of the name or make of them please


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Reply #28 on: January 30, 2023, 10:48:45 am
I like those 1000 bhat lower stubs for std shocks any idea of the name or make of them please

No name, no make. All I can say is that the aluminium seems to be of good quality. Machining and finish are good. Threads are well cut and clean. Bushes from OEM shocks fit easily. As I said in an earlier post - cheap alternative to shorter aftermarket shocks and easy to fit.
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Reply #29 on: January 30, 2023, 04:32:22 pm
Careful if lowering the front end. With the standard 10mm of fork leg above the top yoke, on my bike there was 132mm of leg between lower yoke and fork slider dust seal, fully extended. If you slide by an EXTRA inch (25mm) you're left with NO clearance at full fork travel of 110mm - dangerous. Sliding by an extra 10-12mm should be enough - I used 5mm.

This is very important advice and I thought it was worth quoting.


Also a few months ago I followed several eBay relistings of a pair of rear shocks from a 2019 Triumph speed twin, they were replaced with Ohlins on day 1 and were put on a shelf with few miles on them. Listings started at $130 and went down to $100 before they finally sold. I looked up rear shock length on the Speed Twin and it's 340mm. This might be an alternate source for KYB or Kayaba shocks to lower your bikes.

I've spotted another set as mentioned above on ebay, listed as 13-3/8" which is 339.725mm
Item Number 254734500369

But don't forget about Hagon and Koni, good stuff that can be ordered to length with correct springs for your weight.
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Reply #30 on: January 31, 2023, 07:04:17 pm
And heavier. :(

True but it probably won’t feel any heavier for a short rider because the weight is lower.  It’s only performance that is impacted which is not important to cruiser pilots
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