[Arschloch]

  ..wait? I may as well wait until Greta's pay off the villas they live in. I've got ZERO patiens left.

[him a layin]

i ride an ecotric vortex e-bike a couple of times a week and would happily commute to and from work if it were accessible via back streets, within 10 miles and it could recharge for 8 hours while i work. with an e-motorcycle, i would double or triple the range, but forget anything resembling a "road trip". not ready for prime time.

[Richard230]

I wonder what the red line through the "550" indicates. Something other than 550ccs?   

[GlennF]

..wait? I may as well wait until Greta's pay off the villas they live in. I've got ZERO patiens left.

There are multiple Gretas now ? Are they cloning her ?

[AzCal Retred]

@ 1112: It's a red word, "SCRAMBLER" I think, but I can't reliably make it out. In the attached EICMA vid the perv filming at about 1:58 gets a real close up of the models calf & knee...and the red lettering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyDi6Br99iU

[Arschloch]

There are multiple Gretas now ? Are they cloning her ?

The Gretas currently run the world from behind the curtain, the mindset is the same only the mask gets better with age.

[Arschloch]

On the electric Trucks...

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/pepsico-roll-out-100-tesla-semis-2023-exec-2022-12-16/

....a sucking business. 

[Leofric]

The Gretas currently run the world from behind the curtain, the mindset is the same only the mask gets better with age.

? beyond me ! I'm going to the 350 J platform to see if I can understand anything on there.

[AzCal Retred]

It's OBVIOUS that Greta is a Westworld Host (season 2) tasked with controlling a "certain person's" perceived reality...and you can see how. 
Couldn't find the "curtain", maybe it's a metaphor?

[axman88]

A few years ago, pre-pandemic, I was thinking about getting into the e-bicycle business in a modest way.  I recall using google maps to see what the supply side of the marketplace was like, by typing in the  search term "E-bikes".  I saw about 4 of the little red pushpins pop up.

I did this again last night, and it seems there are now 21 shops in the Chicago area offering e-bikes.  The marketplace is exploding!  This reminds me of what happened here with marijuana dispensaries a few years ago.

Stylewise, I'm liking the Michael Blast Greaser, which is being sold by Bike Berry, who has transitioned from bicycle engines to bicycle motors in a big way.
https://www.bikeberry.com/products/michael-blast-350-500w-t4b-greaser-cafe-style-electric-bike

[AzCal Retred]

" This reminds me of what happened here with marijuana dispensaries a few years ago. "

A hub motor on your hemp framed line of bikes and you are there - a twofer! Just don't get too far into the "weeds"...

https://www.mobitecture.com/portfolio/hemp-bike/

https://bioplasticsnews.com/2019/09/19/hemp-bioplastics-electric-motorbike/

https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/xnito-electric-bike-helmet-hemp

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1191606185/the-pebl-a-hemp-based-four-season-pedal-electric-v

https://www.e-scooter.co/van-eko-be-e/

[him a layin]

decent weather, so took my ecotric vortex out for a ride around town. visited the Stanback (yes, the headache powder guy) Park and the transportation museum (trains, planes and automobiles). range 20 mi, top speed 20mph. heavy for a bicycle, decent but not ideal for trails. much like a slow, stealthy motorcycle.

[Richard230]

H-D's LiveWire company is not quite meeting H-D's original sales projections: https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/livewire-cuts-growth-projections-as-del-mar-production-is-delayed

[viczena]

No wonder if they just sell 100 mile bicycles.

[AzCal Retred]

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/livewire-cuts-growth-projections-as-del-mar-production-is-delayed

" Personally, when I saw those growth estimates in December of 2021 I was surprised by how aggressive they were. Has any vehicle manufacturer in history ever gone from under 500 vehicles sold in the first year to more than 100,000 five years later? "

Year #1: $17,000 x 500 = $8,500,000 in one year

Year #5: $17,000 x 100,000 =   $1,700,000,000 in one year!!! 

Assuming maybe 250,000 units sold between year #1 thru year #5.

population of the USA 350,000,000

350,000,000 / 250,000 = 1,400

1 out of 1,400 people would be a proud owner of a new $17,000 electric hog by year 5...really?

New street bike sales nationwide are around 500,000, under 7% of the USAs yearly 8,500,000 registered machines. So HD is going to magically sell 1/5th of the entire new bike volume sold, aceing out all other brands with a $17,000, 100 mile range machine. Are these guys on drugs?

https://www.iihs.org/api/datastoredocument/bibliography/2225
https://www.statista.com/statistics/183549/us-sales-of-motorcycles-since-1990/#:~:text=U.S.%20sales%20of%20motorcycles%202000%2D2021&text=In%202021%2C%20customers%20in%20the,sales%20during%20the%20last%20decade.