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Reply #30 on: September 18, 2020, 07:34:35 pm
I looked at the $80+ charger recommended for this battery and it has a gaggle of fittings to plug the battery into. Am I understanding the image on the Shorai site? It looks like there needs to be pretty significant wiring effort to the RE system. Is that correct? Not really plug and play? You know, shove it in the battery box, hook up the pos and neg cables and Bob's your uncle.
shove it in the battery box, hook up the pos and neg cables and Bob's your uncle.
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Reply #31 on: September 18, 2020, 09:21:17 pm
I’ve had the same lithium battery for 3 years now on a few different bikes, it’s never been charged on a charger and has sat for 6 months at a time. Mine is a Shorai.
There’s no need for a charger tbh


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Reply #32 on: September 18, 2020, 09:47:43 pm
As I mentioned a couple of months ago, I have a big and expensive Shorai lithium battery in my BMW R1200RS and another one in my F650GS. They both stay charged just fine using the bike's on-board charging system.  I also have an Optimate lithium battery charger and sometimes plug it in after a ride. Its green light, indicating a full charge, typically comes on after about 10 minutes of charging. If you want to go cheap, purchase a small Battery Tender lithium battery charger, which I use to charge the lithium battery that is in my 2011 Bullet. It has been keeping that little battery in good health for the past 7 years. I really don't think you need to pay big bucks for the Shorai charger.
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Reply #33 on: September 19, 2020, 12:14:34 am
I’ve had the same lithium battery for 3 years now on a few different bikes, it’s never been charged on a charger and has sat for 6 months at a time. Mine is a Shorai.
There’s no need for a charger tbh
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Reply #34 on: September 20, 2020, 08:40:18 pm
In the past I have used AntiGravity brand but my most recent lithium is a Shorai. The Shorai is actually bigger than the AGM it replaced. Lucky I had room.


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Reply #35 on: February 22, 2021, 12:23:15 am
+1 for using both: I'm using a Motobatt AGM in my Ducati. The same battery is supposed to fit the Enfield but when I tried it, the case is just too big. I bought  SSB Powersport lithium instead. I used one on my suzuki savage for years. It started that big single no worries. And fitted away discreetly, a consideration on a bobber with more empty space than motorbike.

Anyway the lithium in the Enfield is good,  and I can swap the same battery between a few different bikes because it's small. One thing I could mention is that the battery light comes on at idle which didn't tend to happen with the pb battery. The built in volt meter is cool though...

So long as you buy a moto specific lithium battery, there's no problem. They have balancing circuit built in and over charge protection so the fire risk is not worth worrying about. IMO, FWIW, YMMV etc.

My bike/battery is now two years old so I’d better be prepared for when it goes belly up.
No signs thus far of it waning but sometimes they just die without warning.

What is the SSB part number of your Lithium battery please Gizzo?
Did it just slot straight in?

How is it performing these days and does the extreme heat we have at times, have an adverse impact?

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Reply #36 on: February 22, 2021, 02:15:27 pm
If one is trying to lighten their bike, 5 or 6lbs is pretty damn significant for one part, and it is high up weight as well.
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Reply #37 on: February 22, 2021, 03:41:19 pm
I raced bicycles for many years - we obsessed over grams and ounces (only one person-power to push on the pedals). I guess it gets in the blood, so I couldn't help myself - the battery (along with the stock silencers) was the first to go. Lithium battery has worked flawlessly for me so far, although it's only been a year, so I suppose the jury's still out. I have a box of stuff I've taken off the bike that is probably pushing 30 lbs. by now. Doubt if I really notice the difference but I feel good about it.


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Reply #38 on: February 22, 2021, 04:07:16 pm
I kept track of weight differentials of stuff I took off and then replaced on the Enfield.   I lightened my bike by 43 pounds.  The biggest chunk of that was the TEC Stinger.

I notice the difference pushing the thing around in my shop.  Since that weight did not come off in one fell swoop any performance gain was difficult for the butt dyno to detect.

Kevin Cameron says 4 lbs. equals 1 horsepower. 

I think a lithium battery is in the cards.


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Reply #39 on: February 22, 2021, 04:25:24 pm
I kept track of weight differentials of stuff I took off and then replaced on the Enfield.   I lightened my bike by 43 pounds.  The biggest chunk of that was the TEC Stinger.

I notice the difference pushing the thing around in my shop.  Since that weight did not come off in one fell swoop any performance gain was difficult for the butt dyno to detect.

Kevin Cameron says 4 lbs. equals 1 horsepower. 

I think a lithium battery is in the cards.

Better add HPs then. Removing everything inside and installing light wheels, brakes, tyres, lithium battery, building suspension parts out of aluminium sure was better than stock.

But what got me going faster on track  was increasing HP, which also meant adding weigh. I had to add 50lbs for a half cage when I upgraded the engine around 300hp, and now i am adding quite more for a full cage and various strengthening needed ... the build 600hp is ready, and it is going to be badly needed XD


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Reply #40 on: February 22, 2021, 04:48:02 pm
If I had 600 hp I'd for sure want a full cage!  :D


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Reply #41 on: February 22, 2021, 09:44:55 pm
My bike/battery is now two years old so I’d better be prepared for when it goes belly up.
No signs thus far of it waning but sometimes they just die without warning.

What is the SSB part number of your Lithium battery please Gizzo?
Did it just slot straight in?

How is it performing these days and does the extreme heat we have at times, have an adverse impact?

Cheers,
Kel
Hey Kel. I'm using this one in my gt
https://www.mxstore.com.au/p/SSB-PowerSport-LH5L-BS-Lithium-Ultralite-12V-Batte/4-LH5L-BS?gclid=CjwKCAiAyc2BBhAaEiwA44-wWzKFIRgR1y_6rHEoe37-LZGWRhyW2r-JPnEqTdl1-CPoHE6_TJ5OIRoCZBsQAvD_BwE

It's smaller than the oem battery so I chocked it in with some slices of scrap epp foam.

It's been working perfect for 2 summers and winters, not a problem. It starts my modded 535 single (no decompressor) fine, and I've used it to start my Pantah and TRX850 as well, no worries. A benefit that reared its head a fortnight ago was that there's no acid in there to spill out when my bike spent an hour upside down.

You can get on ebay and other places but I've always had great service from MX Store for my supermoto and dirt bike supplies so happy to shop for batteries with them too.
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Reply #42 on: February 22, 2021, 11:40:09 pm
Good feedback Simon. Much appreciated.
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Reply #43 on: February 23, 2021, 08:05:19 pm
Well l normally get five years out of a well branded lead acid so l guess l will stick with that, of course there has been fire risks with lithium, if you want more cranking power from lead acid just up grade the cranking amps.


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Reply #44 on: February 27, 2022, 06:44:26 pm
Reviving an old topic, what lithium batteries are y'all using now?
 I'm most interested in size as I'm looking for on board space to store eastbound tire tools.
hoping to put the pack in the space freed up by the smaller battery.
 Love my bike but wish there was more space to put things!
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