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on: April 15, 2021, 05:13:34 am
I'm supposing since this is a Royal Enfield forum a good many of you probably enjoy vintage motor adventure and vintage motor racing via 2 wheels and sometimes 4 wheels, too, and even when the engines involved use that nauseatingly complicated system called liquid cooling.

I myself am 100% an air cooled addict, auto and moto alike, thus despise the nonsense fad of liquid cooling.

But fun vintage cinema and storytelling are utterly worthwhile even when liquid cooling is involved, so I think you fellow luddites will appreciate what's on offer below.

Also, it seems likely a good many of you have already seen one or more of these videos, but here they are anyway. Enjoy!

Cycles South 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtP40UdARwg

Crossing the Darien Gap by Corvair 1962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghgRH9m2fOI

Expedition across North and South America by Jeep CJ7 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0mJ4HXMHvQ

England to South Africa by military surplus truck 1959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtG6niRiRXk


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Reply #1 on: April 15, 2021, 07:29:13 am
And here's a fun vintage Formula Vee vid, too.  The ol' skool racing footage is priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8f0Ca0-tnM


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Reply #2 on: April 16, 2021, 12:51:23 am
"Cycles South 1971" was a hoot - thanks for posting!
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Reply #3 on: April 16, 2021, 01:59:54 am
I'm supposing since this is a Royal Enfield forum a good many of you probably enjoy vintage motor adventure and vintage motor racing via 2 wheels and sometimes 4 wheels, too, and even when the engines involved use that nauseatingly complicated system called liquid cooling.

I myself am 100% an air cooled addict, auto and moto alike, thus despise the nonsense fad of liquid cooling.
Water cooling goes back pretty far.  Well before the finned cylinder was invented Newcomen was spraying the inside of his atmospheric engine cylinders with water to initiate the power stroke.

And, before there were radiators and closed pressurized cooling systems, there was Hopper Cooling,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopper_cooling
which I'd suggest is very effective at holding a constant 212F operating temperature, at least until the water all boils off.    I believe the hopper cooling system is still in use in the Chang Chai diesel engines, which have a pretty good reputation as tough, reliable power makers.   https://youtu.be/ZIibP81qg2w?t=126
https://www.rotek.at/produkte/pdf-aktuell/Motoren/!ED4W-Changchai/ED4W-L-Series-Originalmanual.pdf


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Reply #4 on: April 16, 2021, 03:43:06 am
Axman88 - In the back country years ago while trail riding we found a stationary engine that had such a trough around the cylinder; "Hopper Cooling", I learned something new today - Thanks!
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Reply #5 on: April 16, 2021, 10:36:47 am
I'm guessing as fellow enthusiasts of vintage air cooled pushrod technology probably some of you chaps also appreciate old Porsches as much as I do.  Here are a couple of terrific videos about an old Porsche gleefully doing things that old Porsches are not supposed to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoX_g3bcABE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQ0S4vrRbg


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Reply #6 on: April 16, 2021, 10:42:56 am
The Porsche 356 is more or less a VW beetle. So nothing special in driving on bad roads.
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Reply #7 on: April 16, 2021, 01:58:02 pm
Axman88 - In the back country years ago while trail riding we found a stationary engine that had such a trough around the cylinder; "Hopper Cooling", I learned something new today - Thanks!
If you like Hopper Cooling, you'll love screen cooling ;)

https://www.gasenginemagazine.com/gas-engines/screen-cooled-zm0z14amzbea/


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Reply #8 on: April 17, 2021, 02:49:54 am
If you like Hopper Cooling, you'll love screen cooling ;)
I actually prefer the two tank system, with a convection riser, like the old timey hydronic heating systems.  No parasitic mechanical loss, much less water loss, and convection doesn't start until the system reaches operating temperature.   Like having a thermostat, without the pressure drop.  Here's a picture of a system from 1919, after a mechanical fan was added, but before a circulating pump was added to create the "modern system".  https://strollingamok.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/thermosyphon_new.jpg

The cooling side component doesn't need to be a radiator, it just needs to have sufficient surface area to provide enough cooling, like the tank shown in the picture shown here.  https://kk.org/cooltools/listeroid-diese/

The beauty of an open system, is that the much greater heat acceptance potential in the phase change, should the water start to boil, provides a fail safe, although you probably wouldn't want to plan to run that way, unless your water is super pure.

Not very practical for vehicles, but would be awesome for heating your house on waste heat from your Listeroid powered generator in the winter, and heating your greenhouse with the waste heat in the summer.


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Reply #9 on: April 17, 2021, 03:33:19 am
Zimmemr @ #7: Here's videos of screen-cooled make or break engines. It's essentially a swamp cooler with bad filler! Probably no biggie to add a plunger/sucker rod pump to the general machine works. Thanks for the tech update!  ;D ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYp_j42mgMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYp_j42mgMU
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Reply #10 on: April 18, 2021, 07:28:16 am
Sum moar!

Living and roadtripping in a VW Westfalia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SgR7rVHJsM


South Africa to Ireland in a vintage Alfa Romeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zewyoiAUEB0








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Reply #14 on: April 18, 2021, 07:16:11 pm
Zimmemr @ #7: Here's videos of screen-cooled make or break engines. It's essentially a swamp cooler with bad filler! Probably no biggie to add a plunger/sucker rod pump to the general machine works. Thanks for the tech update!  ;D ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYp_j42mgMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYp_j42mgMU
Very cool, how can you not love stuff like this? ;)


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Reply #15 on: April 19, 2021, 01:08:51 am
The motorcycle on four wheels, a vintage documentary of the Caterham 7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM5teKOVBNI


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Reply #16 on: April 19, 2021, 11:39:38 am
I enjoyed the Darien Gap one. That must have been quite an adventure.
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