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Title: Haynes manual
Post by: Carlsberg Wordsworth on November 28, 2018, 05:50:34 pm
Always a handy thing to have. Just ordered a copy.

Now available :)

What's covered:
 
Bullet/Classic 499cc (09 - 18)
 
Continental GT 535cc (13 - 18)

Thanks to Hitchcocks for the heads up.

https://haynes.com/en-gb/royal-enfield/bullet-classic/2009-2018


Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: hpwaco on November 28, 2018, 07:12:49 pm
Site says not available until 30 December.   Online manual says " 1 year subscription".   Presumably its printable.
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Carlsberg Wordsworth on November 28, 2018, 08:04:40 pm
I'll keep you posted as I ordered it from Hitchcocks so will see when it actually ships.


Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Boxerman on November 28, 2018, 08:57:30 pm
I pre-ordered one direct from Haynes a couple of weeks ago. Due to be released at the end of December, but Hitchcocks are saying they have them in stock?

Frank
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Carlsberg Wordsworth on November 30, 2018, 03:53:00 pm
Well it came today  8)

Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: hpwaco on November 30, 2018, 04:28:58 pm
Tried to order from Hitchcock's website but wouldn't go thru.  Have to try again.
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Grant Borden on December 01, 2018, 12:02:06 am
Hpwaco,

Try bookdepository.com for the book.

Grant
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Bilgemaster on December 05, 2018, 05:11:44 pm
Shame there never appears to have been a Haynes Manual  published for us geezing "Iron Bellied" Bulleteers. A Haynes Norton Commando Service Manual  was my first guide into the dark arts of wrenching and bleeding knuckles. Chilton's offerings are generally OK, I guess. However, I tend to view Clymer's as potentially good firm landfill. I adore Snidal's Bullet Manual (http://www.enfield.20m.com/bullet1.htm). In fact, I'll often read random chapters just 'cause I enjoy his banter. But when getting into the innards of any vehicle I still can't help but think in Haynes terms of "anti-clockwise" and "spanner" and "gudgeon pins held fast by circlips." For those unfamiliar with interpreting Haynesian English, this explanation of commonly used terms (https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php/topic,24352.msg280745.html#msg280745) thoughtfully provided by 'The Old Coot' to these Forums a couple of years back may be helpful. Until then, as they often advise in the Haynes manuals, in all things remember to "observe effect on performance."

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Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Stanley on December 05, 2018, 09:27:27 pm
Prise the circlip, offer the gearbox to its mountings, and scotch the flywheel.

Almost expect to fly wing on wing or luff up and drop the drogue.
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: mattsz on December 06, 2018, 12:59:55 am
Shame there never appears to have been a Haynes Manual  published for us geezing "Iron Bellied" Bulleteers. A Haynes Norton Commando Service Manual  was my first guide into the dark arts of wrenching and bleeding knuckles. Chilton's offerings are generally OK, I guess. However, I tend to view Clymer's as potentially good firm landfill.

The Clymer manual I just bought is published by the Haynes Publishing Group - I guess they like 'em... (https://advrider.com/f/styles/advrider_smilies/ne_nau.gif)
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Bilgemaster on December 06, 2018, 05:43:04 am
The Clymer manual I just bought is published by the Haynes Publishing Group - I guess they like 'em... (https://advrider.com/f/styles/advrider_smilies/ne_nau.gif)

Turns out Clymer was jettisoned by its former parent company, the now deceased Penton Media, as non-essential baggage (in Corporate Speak: "to better focus on core concerns and competencies") as its own boat was circling the drain. Clymer was picked up by Haynes at a fire sale price in a bid for broader market share.
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: mattsz on December 06, 2018, 11:13:04 am
Turns out Clymer was jettisoned by its former parent company, the now deceased Penton Media, as non-essential baggage (in Corporate Speak: "to better focus on core concerns and competencies") as its own boat was circling the drain. Clymer was picked up by Haynes at a fire sale price in a bid for broader market share.

I figured it was something like that... why sell just one mediocre maintenance manual for a specific motorcycle model (or range of models), when you can sell two?

Full disclosure - I'm new to the Haynes/Clymer world; when asking for advice from long time owners of a certain model of 40-year-old Honda four, everyone with an opinion has said that the Haynes and Clymer manuals in question are equally disappointing.  I ended up with a copy of the Clymer, and after reading it cover-to-cover, I'm inclined to agree.  Sketchy details, incorrect (or sometimes multiple) names for the same part, mislabeled diagrams and photos (pretty easily sorted), and outright wrong data, like some clearance and torque specs (not so easily sorted!).

Kind of like the official RE UCE service manual, now that you mention it... must be a long-held tradition in the world of motorcycle maintenance publishing!
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Adrian II on December 06, 2018, 12:38:24 pm
Commonly known as the Haynes Book of Lies back in the day, hopefully accuracy has much improved.

A.
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: hpwaco on December 06, 2018, 07:13:34 pm
Didn't Clymer have something to do with the AMA and also publish a magazine?    His early Japanese bike manuals were pretty much rubbish.    Had Haynes CX500 and H1 manuals and they were OK.
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: mattsz on December 06, 2018, 09:05:12 pm
...His early Japanese bike manuals were pretty much rubbish...

Hmm... as in, mid-70's CB fours?

BTW, I lied earlier about being new to the Haynes/Clymer world... my BMW R60/6 came with a Clymer manual - but I can't remember if it was any good or not.  I never really used it for maintenance; the only major maintenance I did on the bike was alongside other guys who had experience with them, so I didn't use the book!  Then I sold the bike on after a short while, a decision I properly regret...  :(
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: heloego on December 07, 2018, 03:51:37 pm
Can't speak for any of the Haynes' bike manuals, but their Auto/Truck ones typically haven't been too bad for the easier maintenance. Mostly for folks that want to do their own oil and spark changes + other minimal maintenance, but some of the deeper maintenance is either left out or poorly presented. Unsure if that is intentional or not.
As I got older I felt I was wiser to get my hands on Factory Service Manuals as a much better substitute, though (let's face facts) the RE factory manual can be confusing about things like torques and assembly sequences. Some head scratching and referencing this forum have clarified a LOT for me.

It has paid some real dividends getting every manual Kevin had available before he shut down. Be nice if our hosts paid more attention to earlier models, but there's always Hitchcocks when you're in a bind, even with the constant issue with International purchases. Kinda wish they'd opt for PayPal and/or at least additionally show prices in different currencies.


Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Carlsberg Wordsworth on December 28, 2018, 08:35:21 pm
Well, now that I'm better after missing Christmas due to some bug that hit me for six, I've finally got a chance to read through this present.


The first thing i notice is that Haynes have tyre presuures for all models covered as 20psi FR and 32psi rear (solo).
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: kelsoo on March 07, 2019, 12:24:58 am
My Haynes (ISBN:978 1 78521 427 1)  has 20psi front 30psi rear solo and 22psi front 32psi rear with a pillion
Title: Re: Haynes manual
Post by: Richard230 on March 07, 2019, 01:17:27 am
What I use for my Bullet is 24 psi, front and 32 psi in the rear.  That is what Dunlop recommends for their K70 tires.