[ChristofR]

Yeah. I'm obviously bullshitting and trying to lead someone on.
I'm talking from my experience. I'm sorry it doesn't match yours... oh that's right, you don't have any but you're qualified to call me a liar because you read it on the internet.

Not calling you a liar ; it's just that I find it strange that Royal Enfield would officially state on their accessories page that their official panniers (silver or black) are NOT waterproof. I guess you must have bought some that are waterproof.
https://www.royalenfieldshop.co.uk/accessories/593-royal-enfield-himalayan-panniers.html
Look at the bottom of the page :
"Please Note These Panniers Are Not Waterproof And Should Be Used In Conjunction With Optional Dry Bags.

I have also viewed some Youtube videos on the matter, I'll try and find them again...

Hello ChristofR,

that is an interesting information...

I checked it on the GIVI Homepage

https://www.givi.it/givi-products/side-hardbags/monokey/ala36apack2-trekker-alaska

 and couldn‘t also find any clear information about water protection.

I don't know about the Givi panniers ; in any case, I wouldn't buy the RE panniers. I'm not saying oldphart is lying, but if Royal Enfield officially states it  on their website, that has to count for something. Wouldn't want to carry a laptop to work in one of those panniers...

[Toni59]

Hello Oldparth,
That video is indeed impressive 

It would probably have taken longer to get aluminium boxes back into shape!

Do you know the brand?

The video doesn’t give any hint.

Regards

Toni

[oldphart]

I think they're Simpson 30 L panniers. They're available on ebay. However, I'm not completely convinced that that's the brand, you'll need to do some research of your own (I didn't follow it up because I'm not in the market for panniers)

[Toni59]

@ Oldparth, Thank you!

Yes, I found them on EBay/Australia, Simpson 30 l panniers
they are obviously only sold in Australia.

I will do further research, since I still have time. Still no delivery date for my Himalayan :-(

Regards

Toni

[oldphart]

@ Oldparth, Thank you!

Yes, I found them on EBay/Australia, Simpson 30 l panniers
they are obviously only sold in Australia.

I will do further research, since I still have time. Still no delivery date for my Himalayan :-(

Regards

Toni

Nah, they ship worldwide mate - I found the ad too. Just place your order and go, or if you're concerned, contact them first.

[Bilgemaster]

Some folks have been having issues viewing this thread, so I've just tried to "Restore" it and post this to jump-start it. Is anyone else able to see it and this posting now?

[oldphart]

All visible at this end

[Toni59]

@ Bilgemaster:

Thanks for restoring it!

Regards
Toni

[Toni59]

So, finally I decided to go with the original Royal Enfield Aluminium Boxes.

I ordered them right in India, and they arrived amazingly fast and without damage.

Painting of the racks looked good, boxes are in reasonable quality.

Mounting of the racket was a nightmare, since the connection points did not fit. Obviously the rack was misaligned due to welding without a proper fixture.

I finally managed it. Once everything is mounted properly, the whole stuff ist very stable and solid.

Regards
Toni

[oldphart]

So, finally I decided to go with the original Royal Enfield Aluminium Boxes.

I ordered them right in India, and they arrived amazingly fast and without damage.

Painting of the racks looked good, boxes are in reasonable quality.

Mounting of the racket was a nightmare, since the connection points did not fit. Obviously the rack was misaligned due to welding without a proper fixture.

I finally managed it. Once everything is mounted properly, the whole stuff ist very stable and solid.

Regards
Toni

Yeah, a few people have reported the frames don't fit too well. Mine were a bit off on one side but nothing I couldn't sort. Pity. RE really has to get on top of that sort of thing but it appears they don't give a shit.

On a positive note, the panniers are brilliant. Solid. Waterproof (well, mine are). Lockable. Good capacity. I love mine.

[Toni59]

Yeah, the boxes look pretty good.

Do you use some pannier liners which fit into the REH boxes?

I have used soft liners on my BMW, which is very comfortable once you are at your destination: Just leave the hard boxes at the motorbike and take the liners with your belongings out...

I wonder whether there are some pannier liners available using the 26 liters of the original boxes as good as possible...

Toni 

[oldphart]

I wasn't aware of any specialist liners. However, our reusable shopping bags fit inside provided you don't over fill them and I use them. The problem with filling a soft liner and then trying to put it into your pannier is having the liner bulge, hence not fitting, but I guess you get used to that.

I've only done one trip with mine. I removed the panniers to fill and to offload at the other end. It worked but was a bit of a pain.

[Toni59]

Hi Oldphart,

What do you mean by „our reusable shopping bags“?

Just an every day carry bag?

Regards
Toni

[oldphart]

Hi Oldphart,

What do you mean by „our reusable shopping bags“?

Just an every day carry bag?

Regards
Toni

Here in Australia, they're trying to wean us off plastic shopping bags at supermarkets. Not every effectively thanks to the way they've gone about it, but governments are governments... which is why we call them gumbyments.
Anyway, one of their strategies was 'reusable shopping bags'. Heavy material - they literally last for years so once you've bought them, you just have to remember to take them shopping with you (if you, you have to pay 25c for a plastic bag). Uniform size, that just happens to fit nicely in the ally panniers.

[Richard230]

Here in Australia, they're trying to wean us off plastic shopping bags at supermarkets. Not every effectively thanks to the way they've gone about it, but governments are governments... which is why we call them gumbyments.
Anyway, one of their strategies was 'reusable shopping bags'. Heavy material - they literally last for years so once you've bought them, you just have to remember to take them shopping with you (if you, you have to pay 25c for a plastic bag). Uniform size, that just happens to fit nicely in the ally panniers.

It should be no surprise that is exactly what happened in California about two years ago, including the 25 cents charge for the plastic grocery bag that the stores used to supply free.  So we then had to buy several cloth shopping bags (and were given more as brand and government agency promotions) if we didn't want to pay for a plastic bag. But then, being California, when the pandemic hit we were told that our reusable cloth bags might be infected with virus and we were banned from bringing them into any retail or grocery store. But the stores were still charging us 25 cents for each plastic bag that we needed to carry out our purchases, in accordance with state law. Then this summer, scientists discovered that the regulators and retail worker unions were full of hot air and cloth bags were not spreading the plague.  So we are now free to use reusable bags again when shopping and if you forget your bag you still get stuck with the 25 cent charge (which includes a 10% state and local sales tax, of course) for a plastic or paper grocery bag (which the store gets to keep). As usual the customer gets screwed coming and going. 

So as it turns out, most people here have ended up with a pile of cloth bags over time and I think they would work just fine as a bag liner for a top-loading saddle bag, especially if it has an interior design that is relatively smooth and uniform so that will not catch on the bag as you pull it out of the container.