[ace.cafe]

Hagon bought Girling and the tooling, and Girling shocks were on nearly every Brit performance bike back in the day. They are the real deal period shocks for the bike.

Ikon is the replica re-make if Koni, which were very good, and mistly popular on the European bikes of the time.

[zimmemr]

Hagon bought Girling and the tooling, and Girling shocks were on nearly every Brit performance bike back in the day. They are the real deal period shocks for the bike.

Ikon is the replica re-make if Koni, which were very good, and mistly popular on the European bikes of the time.

When I started riding in the mid 60's nobody replaced the shocks on their British bikes unless they were broken. A few of the real thinkers fooled around with the springs, but nothing like today. Boge was another good shock, but seldom heard of these days. The Japanese bikes were another story. Most guys couldn't wait to slap a set of Girling's or Konie's on those wobblers.

[Karl Fenn]

Mind you in the case of some japs it would not have done much good especially in the case of some Kawasaki two strokes they had rubber frames l doubt no shocks in the world would have cured that.

[zimmemr]

Mind you in the case of some japs it would not have done much good especially in the case of some Kawasaki two strokes they had rubber frames l doubt no shocks in the world would have cured that.

Wobblers or not a lot of races were won on those things.

[Keef Sparrow]

Mind you in the case of some japs it would not have done much good especially in the case of some Kawasaki two strokes they had rubber frames l doubt no shocks in the world would have cured that.

The handling on my old Suzuki GT500 2 stroke improved considerably when I bolted Hagon gas shocks on the back.

[NVDucati]

Now-a-days the MotoGP engineers are bragging about putting flexibility into the frames.

[6504me]

Now-a-days the MotoGP engineers are bragging about putting flexibility into the frames.

The Japanese brands mastered that when the big multis showed up in the 70's.

[mwmosser]

Now-a-days the MotoGP engineers are bragging about putting flexibility into the frames.

Is there a lot of carbon fiber in the MotoGP bike frames? I should know this, or at least I should be able to figure this out, but I'm feeling lazy today.

[zimmemr]

Is there a lot of carbon fiber in the MotoGP bike frames? I should know this, or at least I should be able to figure this out, but I'm feeling lazy today.

Moto Gp frames are mostly aluminum and steel, carbon fiber frames were tried and discarded. I think the major problem was that the frames were to stiff, but I'm not that current on Moto Gp technology.

[mwmosser]

Moto Gp frames are mostly aluminum and steel, carbon fiber frames were tried and discarded. I think the major problem was that the frames were to stiff, but I'm not that current on Moto Gp technology.

Yep, that's why I was asking. You want stiff, go carbon fiber. But it's SO stiff you end up having to engineer flexibility back into the chassis somewhere.

[Keef Sparrow]

The Japanese brands mastered that when the big multis showed up in the 70's.

They certainly did on my Suzuki T500 and GT500 2 stroke twins!

[Jack Straw]

I tried out the 10% softer Hagon springs.  For my riding they feel smoother and more in sync with the lighter fork springs.  I think I'm done with the suspension.  With the elimination of inner tubes the Pilot Activ Michelins feel even nicer now.  I'm smiling.

[Hoiho]

I tried out the 10% softer Hagon springs.  For my riding they feel smoother and more in sync with the lighter fork springs.  I think I'm done with the suspension.  With the elimination of inner tubes the Pilot Activ Michelins feel even nicer now.  I'm smiling.

Mine took quite a long time to soften (2000km), but now they're golden. Wound the preload up a notch last night, sag is around 20mm with rider.

[Blazingatom]

I got a set of the 3 way adjustable  hagon rear shocks made to my weight and am more than happy with the results straight out the box, a lot more composed over our broken UK roads.

[Karl Fenn]

What was that GT 500 like on performance, l got to ride the 380 but not the 500, l also tried the kwaka 500 which was a bit rubbery but went like hell.