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350 J Platform / Re: Trade-in Values on 350 Meteors/Classics

« Last Post by AzKev on Today at 05:30:50 pm »

Understood, Kev. Good answers.

I might feel more like you do, regarding the oomph, but I have my 34 HP scooter for that, and that's most definitely my primary ride, i.e., the M350 is a fun backup. And no commuting for me, for a long time now.

So you make a good case. Ask your wife if she needs a new couch, dining room set, dishwasher, or something. And then remind her that you need a little more power, to be safer in traffic on the higher-speed parts of your commute.

I like that strategy, Bill! Thing is, unlike a lot of women, or people really, she is VERY non-materialistic, almost to fault. If it was up to her, we would never buy anything new. She is frugal to a fault lol. But she is on-board with the idea of being safer.

Very few bikes will ever hold investment values.
And, IMO, if you buy a bike for resale value, then you're doing it wrong.
I'm sure that I could now buy 4 Royal Enfield Classic 350s for what I paid for two 18 months ago.
I don't care.  I paid for them to use them and there are few things I own that have gone up in value that are day to day items.

Enjoy it, and if you have to sell it, know you're going to lose money.

Ride Safe 🙏🏼

You make a great point here, ButteMT. Seeing as how I've only ever bought and sold used bikes before my Meteor, I never really lost too much when I sold them because I never paid that much. I view it like you do, it's just my wife who is more of a stickler for losing money on anything. To her credit, whenever we buy a new vehicle, she does all the haggling, and she is one tough cookie! She saved us a ton on our Nissan Rogue - but it was a long, miserable process - one that I would not have gone through myself.
We have a great relationship, and make all decisions together, which works great 99% of the time - this being the other 1% lol 

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Campfire Talk / Re: ישראל כחזית השלישית

« Last Post by AzCal Retred on Today at 05:01:40 pm »

Your preference to not believe my attachment and inability to compare it to what's going on now isn't my problem.

Your talent for obfuscation is epic. The 4 cent paper attachment is a obviously a historical artifact accurately documenting a past event. I know about the Nazis. The comparison of internet bot driven pro-palestinian recreational college "Fight Club" dissent to actual Nazi tactics to subvert & take over a nation is absurd. The GOPPPW has that well covered, largely recycling internet Russian & Chinese bot driven disinformation. Again, mostly a "Fight Club" scenario.

I really fail to understand your reliance on vague & amorphous posts. It's easy to say what you mean. Clarity is essential for  actual communication, if that's the intent.

Here's where you got your post from. How you can casually state that I "don't believe" your attachment is unsupported, especially in light of the vague nature of the original verbiage.

27 October 1932 <<  https://www.jta.org/archive/19-jewish-students-injured-as-new-nazi-attacks-occur-at-vienna-colleges
http://pdfs.jta.org/1932/1932-10-27_2386.pdf?_ga=2.181115173.305711969.1714146048-1770791505.1714146048  >>

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350 J Platform / Re: Trade-in Values on 350 Meteors/Classics

« Last Post by ButteMT on Today at 04:58:09 pm »

Very few bikes will ever hold investment values.
And, IMO, if you buy a bike for resale value, then you're doing it wrong.
I'm sure that I could now buy 4 Royal Enfield Classic 350s for what I paid for two 18 months ago.
I don't care.  I paid for them to use them and there are few things I own that have gone up in value that are day to day items.

Enjoy it, and if you have to sell it, know you're going to lose money.

Ride Safe 🙏🏼

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350 J Platform / Re: Big Dang Bikes

« Last Post by AzCal Retred on Today at 04:33:20 pm »

In the days of Yore a "starter bike" was a 10-15 HP 125cc - 200cc machine. They'd run 50-65 MPH and were light, all good things for newer riders. The "big bikes" had 25-40 HP, were 250-400 pounds and would drag you up to 80 - 100 MPH, about all the velocity you need on public roads. (452 Scram anyone?  )

There are innumerable stories of folks touring tens of thousands of miles on 50cc to 350cc machines. The olde RE Pre-Unit 350 Bullet was the HD of India and chugged everywhere, even circumnavigating the globe, for the better part of 60 years virtually unchanged.

Mostly I think it's a desire for greater status that drives the bigger, faster thing. A well sorted 350 is about all the machine you "need". Leave the super slab to busses & Corvettes. Take an airplane or train if pressed for time. Being "in the wind" doesn't take 150 HP and 600 pounds.

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650 Interceptor & Continental GT / Re: New 450 scrambler?

« Last Post by iblastoff on Today at 04:25:46 pm »

Increase displacement and power across the line if they want more sales in the USA. Their 350 shouod be at least a 500 single, 650 better yet. The 650 meteor looks great, but bump it up to an 850 or better. Most people woulod gladly pay the extra $ for more power.

there was already a 500 (well 535) single. nobody in the US gave a shit about it.

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Campfire Talk / Re: ישראל כחזית השלישית

« Last Post by Racer57 on Today at 04:24:53 pm »

Your preference to not believe my attachment and inability to compare it to what's going on now isn't my problem.

"Same types now that are getting close to the same results as in the past that also have a leader that intentionally does nothing to stop it."

What types?

What results?

What leader?

Why so deliberately vague?

Here's a real event with some documentation. Was this what you were cryptically referring to?
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-national-guard-university-texas-austin-protest-311795050354
CLAIM: The National Guard was sent in on Wednesday to address war protesters at the University of Texas at Austin.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The National Guard was not called to the university in response to the demonstration against the Israel-Hamas war, the Texas Military Department and a university spokesperson told The Associated Press. Texas state troopers responded at the request of university officials and Gov. Greg Abbott, according to a Texas Department of Public safety spokesperson. Local police were also on the scene.
THE FACTS: Amid student protests on an increasing number of college campuses, social media users falsely claimed that a demonstration at UT-Austin was met by the National Guard.
“We send the national guard for kids protesting at college but not the open border?” reads one X post that shared a clip from a Fox News report showing officers marching on the university’s campus. It had received approximately 24,000 likes and 6,300 shares as of Thursday.
Another X post captioned a clip of protestors clashing with officers, “Texas University demonstration confronting National Guard.”
Others specifically alleged that either Abbott or President Joe Biden had sent the military agency to UT-Austin. But such reports are unfounded.
“While the Texas National Guard was aware and prepared to respond to the protests at UT yesterday, no Soldiers were dispatched to the campus during the event,” the Texas Military Department, which encompasses the state’s National Guard, wrote in a statement to the AP. “DPS and law enforcement partners did not require assistance.”
However, the statement added, “the Texas National Guard is prepared to respond if requested.”
Brian Davis, a spokesperson for UT-Austin, told the AP that “the National Guard rumor is not true.”

Here's how the National Guard is mobilized:
https://www.army.nationalguard.mil/About-Us/Army-Guard-Mission/
The governor can call the National Guard into action during local or statewide emergencies, such as storms, fires, earthquakes or civil disturbances. In addition, the President of the United States can activate the National Guard for participation in federal missions.

Here's an article discussing the political ins & outs:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/25/white-house-johnson-national-guard-protesters-00154374

Twitter/X got it wrong but lots of people don't care about accuracy, just "Truthiness".
truth·i·ness  /  ˈtro͞oTHēnəs/ : noun - INFORMAL:
The quality of seeming or being felt to be true, even if not necessarily true.

Here's an instance of NG mobilization:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_sit-down_strike
The police, armed with guns and tear gas, attempted to enter the Fisher Body 2 plant on January 11, 1937. The strikers inside the plant pelted them with hinges, bottles, and bolts, led by Bob Travis and Roy Reuther.[13] They were able to withstand several waves of attack, eventually ending the standoff. The strikers dubbed this "The Battle of Running Bulls", a mocking reference to the police ("bulls"). Fourteen strikers were injured by gunfire during the battle.
At the time, Vice President John Nance Garner supported federal intervention to break up the Flint Strike, but this idea was rejected by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The president urged GM to recognize a union so the plants could re-open.
GM obtained a second injunction against the strike on February 2, 1937. GM was granted the injunction by Judge Edward S. Black. Judge Black owned over three thousand shares of GM. Judge Black was disbarred from the case after the UAW found out about the revelation. The union not only ignored the order, but spread the strike to Chevrolet Plant #4. To avoid tipping its hand, the union let it be known in the hours before the move that it intended to go after another plant in the complex, changing directions only at the last minute. GM, tipped off by an informant within the UAW, was ready and waiting for the union at the other plant and caught completely off guard at Plant #4. The strike ended after 44 days.
That development forced GM to bargain with the union. John L. Lewis, President of the United Mine Workers and founder and leader of the Congress of Industrial Organizations, spoke for the UAW in those negotiations; UAW President Homer Martin was sent on a speaking tour to keep him out of the way. GM's representatives refused to be in the same room as the UAW's, so Governor Frank Murphy acted as courier and intermediary between the two groups. Governor Murphy sent in the Michigan National Guard, not to evict the strikers, but rather to protect them from the police and corporate strike-breakers. The two parties finally reached agreement on February 11, 1937, on a one-page agreement that recognized the UAW as the exclusive bargaining representative for GM's employees who were members of the union for the next six months.[14]

Remember this other instance of NG mobilization? Lots of us older folks do. Nobody is interested in a repeat performance.
https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy

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650 Interceptor & Continental GT / Re: Question about stock tires

« Last Post by deadbat on Today at 04:15:12 pm »

A couple of comments here. You might have your rear wheel alignment checked and I don't care for the Ceat tubes used on my 2020 INT. They are very thick and heavy for road tubes. I had to replace the rear tube early on and went with a Michelin Road Tube.

Noted, thanks for the advice.

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650 Interceptor & Continental GT / Re: Belt drive conversion?

« Last Post by axman88 on Today at 03:44:15 pm »

I saw some studies that showed that a new, clean, perfectly lubed and adjusted chain is more efficient than a belt.

People talk about "the facts", but I've yet to see them.

The "studies" I've seen were commissioned by belt manufacturers, and they were comparing new belts to debilitated chains that THEY had decided best represented the condition of "real world" chain drives.  Spray salt water on a chain and belt before testing and we shouldn't be surprised if the belt wins.

If you have seen a study that compares well adjusted moto belts to well adjusted and lubed moto chains, you should share it.

I'll certainly grant that there is less maintenance with a belt.   On the other hand, the chain offers:
    Better durability
    Higher load capacity
    Easier ratio change
    Substantially less expensive component replacement cost.

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Bullet with the UCE engine / Re: Engine paint

« Last Post by dyl on Today at 03:41:41 pm »

Thanks for your input Robin!
You don't think UCE cylinder heads are iron alloys?

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Campfire Talk / Re: ישראל כחזית השלישית

« Last Post by AzCal Retred on Today at 03:24:15 pm »

"Same types now that are getting close to the same results as in the past that also have a leader that intentionally does nothing to stop it."

What types?

What results?

What leader?

Why so deliberately vague?

Here's a real event with some documentation. Was this what you were cryptically referring to?
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-national-guard-university-texas-austin-protest-311795050354
CLAIM: The National Guard was sent in on Wednesday to address war protesters at the University of Texas at Austin.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The National Guard was not called to the university in response to the demonstration against the Israel-Hamas war, the Texas Military Department and a university spokesperson told The Associated Press. Texas state troopers responded at the request of university officials and Gov. Greg Abbott, according to a Texas Department of Public safety spokesperson. Local police were also on the scene.
THE FACTS: Amid student protests on an increasing number of college campuses, social media users falsely claimed that a demonstration at UT-Austin was met by the National Guard.
“We send the national guard for kids protesting at college but not the open border?” reads one X post that shared a clip from a Fox News report showing officers marching on the university’s campus. It had received approximately 24,000 likes and 6,300 shares as of Thursday.
Another X post captioned a clip of protestors clashing with officers, “Texas University demonstration confronting National Guard.”
Others specifically alleged that either Abbott or President Joe Biden had sent the military agency to UT-Austin. But such reports are unfounded.
“While the Texas National Guard was aware and prepared to respond to the protests at UT yesterday, no Soldiers were dispatched to the campus during the event,” the Texas Military Department, which encompasses the state’s National Guard, wrote in a statement to the AP. “DPS and law enforcement partners did not require assistance.”
However, the statement added, “the Texas National Guard is prepared to respond if requested.”
Brian Davis, a spokesperson for UT-Austin, told the AP that “the National Guard rumor is not true.”

Here's how the National Guard is mobilized:
https://www.army.nationalguard.mil/About-Us/Army-Guard-Mission/
The governor can call the National Guard into action during local or statewide emergencies, such as storms, fires, earthquakes or civil disturbances. In addition, the President of the United States can activate the National Guard for participation in federal missions.

Here's an article discussing the political ins & outs:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/25/white-house-johnson-national-guard-protesters-00154374

Twitter/X got it wrong but lots of people don't care about accuracy, just "Truthiness".
truth·i·ness  /  ˈtro͞oTHēnəs/ : noun - INFORMAL:
The quality of seeming or being felt to be true, even if not necessarily true.

Here's an instance of NG mobilization:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_sit-down_strike
The police, armed with guns and tear gas, attempted to enter the Fisher Body 2 plant on January 11, 1937. The strikers inside the plant pelted them with hinges, bottles, and bolts, led by Bob Travis and Roy Reuther.[13] They were able to withstand several waves of attack, eventually ending the standoff. The strikers dubbed this "The Battle of Running Bulls", a mocking reference to the police ("bulls"). Fourteen strikers were injured by gunfire during the battle.
At the time, Vice President John Nance Garner supported federal intervention to break up the Flint Strike, but this idea was rejected by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The president urged GM to recognize a union so the plants could re-open.
GM obtained a second injunction against the strike on February 2, 1937. GM was granted the injunction by Judge Edward S. Black. Judge Black owned over three thousand shares of GM. Judge Black was disbarred from the case after the UAW found out about the revelation. The union not only ignored the order, but spread the strike to Chevrolet Plant #4. To avoid tipping its hand, the union let it be known in the hours before the move that it intended to go after another plant in the complex, changing directions only at the last minute. GM, tipped off by an informant within the UAW, was ready and waiting for the union at the other plant and caught completely off guard at Plant #4. The strike ended after 44 days.
That development forced GM to bargain with the union. John L. Lewis, President of the United Mine Workers and founder and leader of the Congress of Industrial Organizations, spoke for the UAW in those negotiations; UAW President Homer Martin was sent on a speaking tour to keep him out of the way. GM's representatives refused to be in the same room as the UAW's, so Governor Frank Murphy acted as courier and intermediary between the two groups. Governor Murphy sent in the Michigan National Guard, not to evict the strikers, but rather to protect them from the police and corporate strike-breakers. The two parties finally reached agreement on February 11, 1937, on a one-page agreement that recognized the UAW as the exclusive bargaining representative for GM's employees who were members of the union for the next six months.[14]

Remember this other instance of NG mobilization? Lots of us older folks do. Nobody is interested in a repeat performance.
https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy