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Royal Enfield Motorcycles => Bullet with the UCE engine => Topic started by: 1 Thump on January 21, 2011, 07:59:52 pm

Title: New UCE models
Post by: 1 Thump on January 21, 2011, 07:59:52 pm
http://www.royalenfields.com/2011/01/royal-enfields-new-ceo-unveils-two-new.html
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: clubman on January 21, 2011, 08:17:04 pm
Loving that G5! Now why didn't they do that from the start? Damn!  ::)

Hope the parts retro fit; I guess it's cheaper than buying a new one.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: nigelogston@gmail.com on January 21, 2011, 08:23:38 pm
The names start to get a bit confusing here, but the second offereing ambiguously called 2011 "Bullet  (aren't they all Bullets?)  is a thing of beauty.   Very subltle differences from the Canadian "Electra/US G 5" but this hits the nail on the head...Just in the nick of time.....before we all broke the piggy pank for IIterceptors!   Love the rear fender girders.    Love the shape and coutour of the rear fender and the triangular plate at the frame of the rear .  Now this could be pretty easy to mod into a "Machismo" with a winshield and bags, and, if you wanted the split seats, though the two up looks just fine.   Nigel.   
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ducati Scotty on January 21, 2011, 08:52:31 pm
I'm not generally a fan of the more square fender on the 350 but that G5 is just great, it looks awesome.  I'm not sure if I like the chrome deluxe C5, I'll have to see it in person I think.

And let's all bid a fond farewell to the chrome hot dog boxes!

Scott
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: nigelogston@gmail.com on January 21, 2011, 11:25:24 pm
Is it my imaginiation,  or is the whole engine housing on this "Bullet" a little closer to the horizintal and perpendicular to ground/frame than in the current G5 , (in which to me it appears to be angle ever so slightly forward.   )?  The whole bike looks like it has a slightly more "upright " appearance. It may be just the effect of the squared rear fender , but it looks more vertical.  Nigel
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: gashousegorilla on January 22, 2011, 01:07:09 am
 I like the chromed C-5. It looks a little speed twinish in red.  I'd like to see it in black.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: ScooterBob on January 22, 2011, 01:36:56 am
Is it my imaginiation,  or is the whole engine housing on this "Bullet" a little closer to the horizintal and perpendicular to ground/frame than in the current G5 , (in which to me it appears to be angle ever so slightly forward.   )?  The whole bike looks like it has a slightly more "upright " appearance. It may be just the effect of the squared rear fender , but it looks more vertical.  Nigel

Nigel - I think that's just an optical illusion as the UCE engine in the original Classic (read Iron Barrel) chassis appears more "squared off" because the rest of the bike sort of is. The G5 Electra Classic has a bit more sweeping lines to it - and the wheelbase is a tad longer - thus giving the engine that "in motion whilst standing still" sort of look. The Basic Bullet has been offered for a while in India with the carburetted 350ccm engine in it and is VERY popular still. It's truly the best of the old AND the new! The Classic chassis with the most modern and adept powerplant that RE has ever made, fuel injection and the lovely disc brake. If I were going to build and Enfield from bits - that bike is EXACTLY what I'd build for myself.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Kruiser on January 22, 2011, 02:46:11 am
Loving that G5! Now why didn't they do that from the start? Damn!  ::)

Hope the parts retro fit; I guess it's cheaper than buying a new one.

What G5?  I dont see one.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: holodeck on January 23, 2011, 05:18:35 pm
The "new" G-5 is what I hoped for when the UCE engine was announced, I am sooo glad I waited for this one. And yes, very happy to see the chrome pill go away.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ice on January 23, 2011, 06:49:07 pm
I like the black one best.

Long live the UCE.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: YJake on January 23, 2011, 07:36:23 pm
When will these actually be available to us?

-Jake
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ice on January 23, 2011, 07:45:45 pm
When will these actually be available to us?

-Jake

      Yes !!! the sixty four dollar question !!


Dr.Scooterbob, paging Dr.Scooterbob,,,,is ther a Dr. Scooterbob in the house ?

 ;D
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: ScooterBob on January 24, 2011, 12:03:30 am
Well - As I understand it .... these models are a "GO" for the USA market - BUT - I don't know when the "official" introduction by the dealers will be. It's pretty obvious that there will be no "real" trouble to produce these models - although the Factory is quite near capacity the way it is. I'm waiting on pins and needles as well ...... it could take a while, however, for the production to begin. I'm signing up for the black one, I think ....  ;) Stay tuned!
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: YJake on January 24, 2011, 01:52:51 am
In that case I should expect them sometime next year eh?  :D

-Jake
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: r80rt on January 24, 2011, 02:01:15 am
In my experience a new Royal Enfield is well Worth the wait.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: GrumpierGrunt on January 24, 2011, 03:41:46 am
saw these two bikes at the motorcycle show in nyc, great stuff and thanks to the royal enfield guys at the booth for the coffee mug!
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ducati Scotty on January 24, 2011, 03:29:58 pm
Is that show making it to the west coast any time soon?  Or is it the one that already passed through in December?  I've realized I may not get to many any more as they're usually the same weekend as my new son's birthday.

Scott
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: holodeck on January 24, 2011, 03:33:55 pm
I'll take a gray one please, something that looks a little like this would be fine.    .


      http://www.sump-publishing.co.uk/royal%20enfield%20bullet.htm
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: GreenMachine on January 24, 2011, 03:41:27 pm
The grey is really nice and speaks of class...Maybe we will see that color in the future on the new interceptor (we really going wild with that story)...
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: holodeck on January 24, 2011, 03:46:03 pm
I might add an order of wide whitewalls to that gray one.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Kruiser on January 24, 2011, 04:42:28 pm
Looks like the Classic Chrome doesn't have the matching painted frame, too bad.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ducati Scotty on January 24, 2011, 05:27:18 pm
Looks like the Classic Chrome doesn't have the matching painted frame, too bad.

That's probably more period correct but a bummer.  On the bright side, you don't need to do a full tear down to change the color.

Scott
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Kruiser on January 24, 2011, 06:06:34 pm
That's probably more period correct but a bummer.  On the bright side, you don't need to do a full tear down to change the color.

Scott

True.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ducati Scotty on January 24, 2011, 06:58:27 pm
Some colors look good with a color matched frame, some look good either way.  I think the teal looks great with a teal frame.  Red looks great with a black frame, White looks really good either way.

Scott
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: ScooterBob on January 24, 2011, 07:37:48 pm
I'll take a gray one please, something that looks a little like this would be fine.    .


      http://www.sump-publishing.co.uk/royal%20enfield%20bullet.htm

Gee - That little bike is the berries! I had to look two or three times to determine whether it was a new one or an old one! The styling is absolutely timeless on the Enfields - the only thing that REALLY gave that one away was little Lucas Mag-Dyno perched behind the cylinder ....... and LOVE that colour!
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Maturin on January 24, 2011, 08:34:04 pm
So we actually see the Electra passing away - the new Bullet has the looks of the iron barrel.
Glad to see triangular boxes - I hope that can be fit to mine  8)
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: ScooterBob on January 24, 2011, 08:50:39 pm
So we actually see the Electra passing away - the new Bullet has the looks of the iron barrel.
Glad to see triangular boxes - I hope that can be fit to mine  8)

Not so fast, Maturin! The Electra chassis has been proven to be "Bullet tough" and will probably be around for a while. The basic Bullet is just icing on the cake when we get it! You'll have the Bullet, the Electra Classic G5 and the Electra Deluxe G5 as well as the Classic 500 C5 and the Deluxe 500 C5 as well as the Military C5 to choose from! There will truly be something for everyone at that point .....  ;)
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: r80rt on January 24, 2011, 09:57:02 pm
I want one of each ;D
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: prof_stack on January 25, 2011, 12:09:59 am
The "basic" Bullet will be $5495 in the USA?  Wow, that's $1k less than the C5.  What has been changed or cheapened or left off to make that happen?
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: UncleErnie on January 25, 2011, 12:37:24 am
I like gray bikes.
I like that tank emblem, too.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: ScooterBob on January 25, 2011, 11:34:04 am
The "basic" Bullet will be $5495 in the USA?  Wow, that's $1k less than the C5.  What has been changed or cheapened or left off to make that happen?

Simply the economy of scale .... The classic Iron Barrel frame has LONG since returned its tooling and die costs - and black paint is cheap! I'm sure that nothing has been "left out" - It's ALL Enfield - and all REAL Bullet!
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: nigelogston@gmail.com on January 25, 2011, 12:01:56 pm
Where are you getting the pricing information from?   Is thsi model already listed on your US RE site.......if so I don't see it , and it isn't on the Canadian site yet (though it hasn't reallly changed for many months)   Nigel. 
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: prof_stack on January 25, 2011, 07:26:42 pm
Simply the economy of scale .... The classic Iron Barrel frame has LONG since returned its tooling and die costs - and black paint is cheap! I'm sure that nothing has been "left out" - It's ALL Enfield - and all REAL Bullet!
At a price point of $5500 the new Bullet will definitely be a better seller than the G5 or C5.  It will attract some attention away from, say, the new Honda CBR-250R due this Spring. 

At that price point I might have considered it instead of the C5.  But I'm happy with the C5 as things seem to be sorted out now.
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: 72westie on January 25, 2011, 07:32:23 pm
Hell,
I hope that they get back down to the $4395.00 price point.  :D
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ducati Scotty on January 25, 2011, 07:36:15 pm
I still think I would pick the C5 over the new bullet because I don't like the double seat and the more squarish rear fender.  I also love the color and prefer the 2 tone tank and more subtle tank graphics of the C5.  Still, it would have made it much tough to justify the extra $1000.

I think bringing the price point down will do wonders for sales.  It's the best of the best: classic styling, classic price, modern reliable engine.

Scott
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: nigelogston@gmail.com on January 25, 2011, 08:21:21 pm
Amen to that, but I still can't see where you are all getting the pricing from :  Did I miss something?    Nigel
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ducati Scotty on January 25, 2011, 10:10:51 pm
I'm just following along with these cats.  They seem trustworthy.

Scott
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: prof_stack on January 25, 2011, 10:13:58 pm
Amen to that, but I still can't see where you are all getting the pricing from :  Did I miss something?    Nigel
I read it on the Internet, so it must be true!   :D
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: mbevo1 on January 26, 2011, 01:22:59 pm
Amen to that, but I still can't see where you are all getting the pricing from :  Did I miss something?    Nigel

Nigel -

On the RE blog www.royalenfields.com, Dave Blasco had a phone interview with the Big Guy at RE...

This price point is for the "new" Bullet 500 -

Quote says: "...the Bullet 500 looks like a throwback to the beloved 350cc Bullet in production in India for 50 years." ..."The new Bullet 500 unveiled in New York will start at $5,495, he said. It will be an entry level bike, available in black only, and there will be limited numbers of them, he added."

Interview also confirms the probablility of a parallel twin...

Mike and S&S in Michigan



Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: nigelogston@gmail.com on January 26, 2011, 02:36:07 pm
Thanks much:   Also see thread "600 cc"  Nigel
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: csbdr on January 26, 2011, 07:58:15 pm
I still want to see a chrome/silver/black combination, like the old Triumph T100's.  Black frame and hand-holds, silver fender paint, boxes, and tank panel of chromed tank. Sharp!
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: holodeck on January 26, 2011, 08:54:09 pm
I just got back from Vince's. Put a deposit on the " new " black Bullet. RE said early spring, I am so happy I finally get the bike I really wanted.











vi
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: prof_stack on January 26, 2011, 11:50:28 pm
I just got back from Vince's. Put a deposit on the " new " black Bullet. RE said early spring, I am so happy I finally get the bike I really wanted.
vi

CONGRATULATIONS!  Plus, Vince will always take good care of you. 
Please post pix...
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: Ducati Scotty on January 28, 2011, 09:06:27 pm
I ran across this pic in the gallery today:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2118

While the new C5 Deluxe pics haven't thrilled me this bike looks really cool.  I'll have to see one of those shiny C5s in person when they arrive.

Scott
Title: Re: New UCE models
Post by: holodeck on January 28, 2011, 11:16:22 pm
Is that seat the classic comfort model that is shown in the store? Anyone have experience with it?
Very nice looking bike!