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Campfire Talk / Re: ישראל כחזית השלישית
« Last Post by AzCal Retred on Yesterday at 03:24:15 pm »"Same types now that are getting close to the same results as in the past that also have a leader that intentionally does nothing to stop it."
What types?
What results?
What leader?
Why so deliberately vague?
Here's a real event with some documentation. Was this what you were cryptically referring to?
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-national-guard-university-texas-austin-protest-311795050354
CLAIM: The National Guard was sent in on Wednesday to address war protesters at the University of Texas at Austin.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The National Guard was not called to the university in response to the demonstration against the Israel-Hamas war, the Texas Military Department and a university spokesperson told The Associated Press. Texas state troopers responded at the request of university officials and Gov. Greg Abbott, according to a Texas Department of Public safety spokesperson. Local police were also on the scene.
THE FACTS: Amid student protests on an increasing number of college campuses, social media users falsely claimed that a demonstration at UT-Austin was met by the National Guard.
“We send the national guard for kids protesting at college but not the open border?” reads one X post that shared a clip from a Fox News report showing officers marching on the university’s campus. It had received approximately 24,000 likes and 6,300 shares as of Thursday.
Another X post captioned a clip of protestors clashing with officers, “Texas University demonstration confronting National Guard.”
Others specifically alleged that either Abbott or President Joe Biden had sent the military agency to UT-Austin. But such reports are unfounded.
“While the Texas National Guard was aware and prepared to respond to the protests at UT yesterday, no Soldiers were dispatched to the campus during the event,” the Texas Military Department, which encompasses the state’s National Guard, wrote in a statement to the AP. “DPS and law enforcement partners did not require assistance.”
However, the statement added, “the Texas National Guard is prepared to respond if requested.”
Brian Davis, a spokesperson for UT-Austin, told the AP that “the National Guard rumor is not true.”
Here's how the National Guard is mobilized:
https://www.army.nationalguard.mil/About-Us/Army-Guard-Mission/
The governor can call the National Guard into action during local or statewide emergencies, such as storms, fires, earthquakes or civil disturbances. In addition, the President of the United States can activate the National Guard for participation in federal missions.
Here's an article discussing the political ins & outs:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/25/white-house-johnson-national-guard-protesters-00154374
Twitter/X got it wrong but lots of people don't care about accuracy, just "Truthiness".
truth·i·ness / ˈtro͞oTHēnəs/ : noun - INFORMAL:
The quality of seeming or being felt to be true, even if not necessarily true.
Here's an instance of NG mobilization:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_sit-down_strike
The police, armed with guns and tear gas, attempted to enter the Fisher Body 2 plant on January 11, 1937. The strikers inside the plant pelted them with hinges, bottles, and bolts, led by Bob Travis and Roy Reuther.[13] They were able to withstand several waves of attack, eventually ending the standoff. The strikers dubbed this "The Battle of Running Bulls", a mocking reference to the police ("bulls"). Fourteen strikers were injured by gunfire during the battle.
At the time, Vice President John Nance Garner supported federal intervention to break up the Flint Strike, but this idea was rejected by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The president urged GM to recognize a union so the plants could re-open.
GM obtained a second injunction against the strike on February 2, 1937. GM was granted the injunction by Judge Edward S. Black. Judge Black owned over three thousand shares of GM. Judge Black was disbarred from the case after the UAW found out about the revelation. The union not only ignored the order, but spread the strike to Chevrolet Plant #4. To avoid tipping its hand, the union let it be known in the hours before the move that it intended to go after another plant in the complex, changing directions only at the last minute. GM, tipped off by an informant within the UAW, was ready and waiting for the union at the other plant and caught completely off guard at Plant #4. The strike ended after 44 days.
That development forced GM to bargain with the union. John L. Lewis, President of the United Mine Workers and founder and leader of the Congress of Industrial Organizations, spoke for the UAW in those negotiations; UAW President Homer Martin was sent on a speaking tour to keep him out of the way. GM's representatives refused to be in the same room as the UAW's, so Governor Frank Murphy acted as courier and intermediary between the two groups. Governor Murphy sent in the Michigan National Guard, not to evict the strikers, but rather to protect them from the police and corporate strike-breakers. The two parties finally reached agreement on February 11, 1937, on a one-page agreement that recognized the UAW as the exclusive bargaining representative for GM's employees who were members of the union for the next six months.[14]
Remember this other instance of NG mobilization? Lots of us older folks do. Nobody is interested in a repeat performance.
https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy
What types?
What results?
What leader?
Why so deliberately vague?
Here's a real event with some documentation. Was this what you were cryptically referring to?
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-national-guard-university-texas-austin-protest-311795050354
CLAIM: The National Guard was sent in on Wednesday to address war protesters at the University of Texas at Austin.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The National Guard was not called to the university in response to the demonstration against the Israel-Hamas war, the Texas Military Department and a university spokesperson told The Associated Press. Texas state troopers responded at the request of university officials and Gov. Greg Abbott, according to a Texas Department of Public safety spokesperson. Local police were also on the scene.
THE FACTS: Amid student protests on an increasing number of college campuses, social media users falsely claimed that a demonstration at UT-Austin was met by the National Guard.
“We send the national guard for kids protesting at college but not the open border?” reads one X post that shared a clip from a Fox News report showing officers marching on the university’s campus. It had received approximately 24,000 likes and 6,300 shares as of Thursday.
Another X post captioned a clip of protestors clashing with officers, “Texas University demonstration confronting National Guard.”
Others specifically alleged that either Abbott or President Joe Biden had sent the military agency to UT-Austin. But such reports are unfounded.
“While the Texas National Guard was aware and prepared to respond to the protests at UT yesterday, no Soldiers were dispatched to the campus during the event,” the Texas Military Department, which encompasses the state’s National Guard, wrote in a statement to the AP. “DPS and law enforcement partners did not require assistance.”
However, the statement added, “the Texas National Guard is prepared to respond if requested.”
Brian Davis, a spokesperson for UT-Austin, told the AP that “the National Guard rumor is not true.”
Here's how the National Guard is mobilized:
https://www.army.nationalguard.mil/About-Us/Army-Guard-Mission/
The governor can call the National Guard into action during local or statewide emergencies, such as storms, fires, earthquakes or civil disturbances. In addition, the President of the United States can activate the National Guard for participation in federal missions.
Here's an article discussing the political ins & outs:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/25/white-house-johnson-national-guard-protesters-00154374
Twitter/X got it wrong but lots of people don't care about accuracy, just "Truthiness".
truth·i·ness / ˈtro͞oTHēnəs/ : noun - INFORMAL:
The quality of seeming or being felt to be true, even if not necessarily true.
Here's an instance of NG mobilization:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_sit-down_strike
The police, armed with guns and tear gas, attempted to enter the Fisher Body 2 plant on January 11, 1937. The strikers inside the plant pelted them with hinges, bottles, and bolts, led by Bob Travis and Roy Reuther.[13] They were able to withstand several waves of attack, eventually ending the standoff. The strikers dubbed this "The Battle of Running Bulls", a mocking reference to the police ("bulls"). Fourteen strikers were injured by gunfire during the battle.
At the time, Vice President John Nance Garner supported federal intervention to break up the Flint Strike, but this idea was rejected by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The president urged GM to recognize a union so the plants could re-open.
GM obtained a second injunction against the strike on February 2, 1937. GM was granted the injunction by Judge Edward S. Black. Judge Black owned over three thousand shares of GM. Judge Black was disbarred from the case after the UAW found out about the revelation. The union not only ignored the order, but spread the strike to Chevrolet Plant #4. To avoid tipping its hand, the union let it be known in the hours before the move that it intended to go after another plant in the complex, changing directions only at the last minute. GM, tipped off by an informant within the UAW, was ready and waiting for the union at the other plant and caught completely off guard at Plant #4. The strike ended after 44 days.
That development forced GM to bargain with the union. John L. Lewis, President of the United Mine Workers and founder and leader of the Congress of Industrial Organizations, spoke for the UAW in those negotiations; UAW President Homer Martin was sent on a speaking tour to keep him out of the way. GM's representatives refused to be in the same room as the UAW's, so Governor Frank Murphy acted as courier and intermediary between the two groups. Governor Murphy sent in the Michigan National Guard, not to evict the strikers, but rather to protect them from the police and corporate strike-breakers. The two parties finally reached agreement on February 11, 1937, on a one-page agreement that recognized the UAW as the exclusive bargaining representative for GM's employees who were members of the union for the next six months.[14]
Remember this other instance of NG mobilization? Lots of us older folks do. Nobody is interested in a repeat performance.
https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy