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SAM+TUCKER

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on: October 19, 2021, 03:52:04 pm
Used full throttle and visited maxium RPM yesterday on the interstate highway.    Very satisfied with performance.   Into a medium head wind and slight uphill GPS 67 MPH  indicated on speedometer 70 MPH.    Tail wind and slight down hill GPS 72 MPH indicated  75 MPH.   I beleive it would go faster but could not because I could feel a electronic speed (not rev) limiter being applied subtly at 72 GPS, 75 MPH indicated.  Not a concern to me because that is the practical maxium speed possible anyhow with 20 HP.   Future performance upgrades would be limited to acceleration but not top speed.  If there is indeed a speed limiter installed. I once owned a Suzuki that had one installed because the factory felt the chassis was not stable at the speeds that 1000cc motorcycle could obtain.  Some found a way around that restricter but I had no interest going over the 125 MPH it was set at.

YouTuber  EconomicalRides  has also noticed this  in his video  ( Royal Enfield Meteor 350  -Top Speed. Is the Metero's top speed being electronically limter?)

I could feel the Meteor become more free flowing at about 400 to 500 miles feel more eager to run and again at about 1000 miles.

Royal Enfield really got this one right in my evaluation. 
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Reply #1 on: October 19, 2021, 05:29:33 pm
I still remember as a 12 yr. old when Honda introduced their CB 750 in 1969. Excellent fit, finish and value for money. If the 'new' RE models prove to be as reliable as the Japanese bikes and they can increase their dealer network and parts availability they could be a world beater.


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Reply #2 on: October 20, 2021, 10:13:11 am
I just passed the 2000km mark today and I can concur that the engine frees up considerably after 1500km or so. I'm a brand new rider on a learner permit so I'm neither willing or able to do a top speed test. 


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Reply #3 on: December 20, 2021, 02:14:44 am
Used full throttle and visited maxium RPM yesterday on the interstate highway.    Very satisfied with performance.   Into a medium head wind and slight uphill GPS 67 MPH  indicated on speedometer 70 MPH.    Tail wind and slight down hill GPS 72 MPH indicated  75 MPH.   I beleive it would go faster but could not because I could feel a electronic speed (not rev) limiter being applied subtly at 72 GPS, 75 MPH indicated.  Not a concern to me because that is the practical maxium speed possible anyhow with 20 HP.   Future performance upgrades would be limited to acceleration but not top speed.  If there is indeed a speed limiter installed. I once owned a Suzuki that had one installed because the factory felt the chassis was not stable at the speeds that 1000cc motorcycle could obtain.  Some found a way around that restricter but I had no interest going over the 125 MPH it was set at.

YouTuber  EconomicalRides  has also noticed this  in his video  ( Royal Enfield Meteor 350  -Top Speed. Is the Metero's top speed being electronically limter?)

I could feel the Meteor become more free flowing at about 400 to 500 miles feel more eager to run and again at about 1000 miles.

Royal Enfield really got this one right in my evaluation.

I used to have a Honda Helix 250 that put out like 20-22 hp., and it maxed out at 72-73 mph. It might have gone a little faster with a short vs. the tall wind screen, but not by much. So yeah, with 20 hp. on tap, I didn't expect the Meteor to do much past 72 mph or so. At my age (pushing 60), that's PLENTY fast on two wheels, TYVM...  ;)
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Reply #4 on: March 08, 2022, 03:25:20 pm

I could feel the Meteor become more free flowing at about 400 to 500 miles feel more eager to run and again at about 1000 miles.


I got mine last week from a reputable dealer. Unit feels solid and well put together but struggles anything near 55 mph. Was your experience similar? I am patiently breaking it in without over-revving but really wondering if the engine will open enough to add another 20 miles on top.


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Reply #5 on: March 09, 2022, 10:31:08 am
My Supernova is getting much better at 900miles, freeing up nicely.

Found this on page 427 of the workshop manual.

16. Crank Position Sensor (CPS)
It provides an alternating electrical pulse to the ECU, to determine crankshaft speed and TDC position of the piston in
compression stroke. This input will help the ECU to optimize both fuel injection as well as Ignition advance required to
suit the crankshaft rotation speed (RPM).
In the event throttle is wide open, leading to crankshaft speed above 6850 RPM, the high frequency electrical pulses from
the crank position sensor will prompt the ECU to restrict fuel supply so that the crank speed reduces to safe levels. This is
a safety aspect to prevent damage to moving engine parts. CPS is located inside the engine cover LH, under the stator coil


I think this is the speed limiter that youtuber economicalrides experienced.


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Reply #6 on: March 09, 2022, 07:57:05 pm
My Supernova is getting much better at 900miles, freeing up nicely.

Found this on page 427 of the workshop manual.

16. Crank Position Sensor (CPS)
It provides an alternating electrical pulse to the ECU, to determine crankshaft speed and TDC position of the piston in
compression stroke. This input will help the ECU to optimize both fuel injection as well as Ignition advance required to
suit the crankshaft rotation speed (RPM).
In the event throttle is wide open, leading to crankshaft speed above 6850 RPM, the high frequency electrical pulses from
the crank position sensor will prompt the ECU to restrict fuel supply so that the crank speed reduces to safe levels. This is
a safety aspect to prevent damage to moving engine parts. CPS is located inside the engine cover LH, under the stator coil


I think this is the speed limiter that youtuber economicalrides experienced.
I suspect something similar may be fitted to my Bullet Trials 500 EFI as well at it reaches a point in top gear where it feels something is hold it back. I know there is a rev limiter of some sort, but I was surprised to find it apparently bouncing of the rev limiter in top gear as even going downhill it won't go any faster. PS: I don't ride it like this regularly!
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Reply #7 on: March 10, 2022, 01:33:57 am
Q for all those who finished their run-in phase:

How much did the top end open up? Mine struggling at 55 mph. Only 100 miles in.

Will it open up another 20+ miles?


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Reply #8 on: March 10, 2022, 02:30:46 am
There is nothing left after 60 mph….with no wind and a flat road it might creep up to 70ish.

Very nice bike otherwise and I wasn’t expecting anything different when I bought this.

All fuel injected REs have a rev limiter, and the ECU cuts off the fuel when you hit the maximum programmed rpm.
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Reply #9 on: March 10, 2022, 03:42:15 am
Q for all those who finished their run-in phase:

How much did the top end open up? Mine struggling at 55 mph. Only 100 miles in.

Will it open up another 20+ miles?
At a 100 miles in, the break in procedure recommends not exceeding 45 mph. It's tedious to baby the Meteor for 1200 miles. I've nearly 2000 miles on the Meteor now and like the INT650 it just runs smoother and more responsive as the miles pile up. I'd say it took 3000 miles for the 650 to fully break in. I did a brief full throttle run  on the Meteor at 1280 miles. It got to 70 mph reasonably quickly then eventually topped out at 74 mph.


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Reply #10 on: March 10, 2022, 08:27:46 pm
just think the old Norton domi 500 twin.88 model could only do about 75/80 mph.
I know because I had one.
so I think the little 350 single does well reaching 70 mph.
60mph will be ample for me the roads that I'll be riding on.


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Reply #11 on: March 11, 2022, 03:05:01 am
At a 100 miles in, the break in procedure recommends not exceeding 45 mph. It's tedious to baby the Meteor for 1200 miles. I've nearly 2000 miles on the Meteor now and like the INT650 it just runs smoother and more responsive as the miles pile up. I'd say it took 3000 miles for the 650 to fully break in. I did a brief full throttle run  on the Meteor at 1280 miles. It got to 70 mph reasonably quickly then eventually topped out at 74 mph.

I noticed a considerable difference when I got to 4000km, it really began to spin up easily. Now at 13000km and it cruises at 100kmh pretty well, pulls about 4800rpm at that speed I think.


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Reply #12 on: March 16, 2022, 12:26:01 pm
I had one of those Honda 750s at the time they were in production, a very reliable fast bike indeed, pity they still don’t make them at the old price l would be first in the queue.