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Royal Enfield Motorcycles => 350 Meteor/Classic => Topic started by: SAM+TUCKER on September 22, 2021, 01:33:50 pm

Title: Work shop manual
Post by: SAM+TUCKER on September 22, 2021, 01:33:50 pm
I have a new meter 350 here in Indiana USA anyone know when we can get a workshop manual or all of the technical information we need my dealer will not supply it to me he says he can’t even get it unless he goes into his computer I’ve always worked on all of 30 + motorcycles don’t allow others to work on them  for me I like to understand everything about my motorcycle engine schematics  everything
HELP when we get this information
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on September 22, 2021, 04:38:54 pm
I have a new meter 350 here in Indiana USA anyone know when we can get a workshop manual or all of the technical information we need my dealer will not supply it to me he says he can’t even get it unless he goes into his computer I’ve always worked on all of 30 + motorcycles don’t allow others to work on them  for me I like to understand everything about my motorcycle engine schematics  everything
HELP when we get this information

For whatever reason, Royal Enfield likes to keep owners in the dark when it comes to the technical information usually found in a factory service manual. Maybe this is intended to help support the maintenance side of their developing dealer network. Even the Owner's Manual is light on many basic service requirements.

Certainly a departure from the norm in the m/c industry, where service manuals are generally available to buy as soon as a new model hits the showrooms.

Hitchcock's website does have RE manuals for older models and even for the 650 models that have been out for almost 4 years now, so if one becomes available for the Meteor, this is the most likely place that we will find it.

Here's a link to some info that RE has provided on some Meteor 350 jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT1BEDU54E1SKBG28gF49AclawHddstLm
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Keef Sparrow on September 22, 2021, 07:23:06 pm
https://www.royalenfield.com/uk/en/support/owners-manual/
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: glencoeman on September 22, 2021, 07:38:45 pm
https://www.royalenfield.com/uk/en/support/owners-manual/
Yes, that's the owners manual - the one that come with the bike - not a workshop manual.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: GSS on September 23, 2021, 01:15:50 am
The original US distributor, Classic Motor Works used to sell nice bound books before PDFs for all REs showed up online.  It is only a matter of time before the Meteor manual shows up as well.

Meanwhile the Himalayan and Interceptor manuals are a reasonable starting point for basic stuff like torque settings etc.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Indobiker on October 14, 2021, 11:29:09 am
Anyone heard any update on the existence/availability of a workshop manual for the Meteor? I live too far away from my dealer (1,100km) so I need to use a local mechanic who's worked on RE bikes in the past. But even he would like to see a copy of the manual since the Meteor has a brand new engine.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: SAM+TUCKER on October 22, 2021, 08:09:47 am
Set a email to Haynes asking them if they had any plans for a future service manual for the new Meteor 350 with the new J series engine.

Replied.    Not on their list for the future.

Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on October 22, 2021, 05:05:10 pm
Set a email to Haynes asking them if they had any plans for a future service manual for the new Meteor 350 with the new J series engine.

Replied.    Not on their list for the future.

Since you have some initiative in this quest, maybe you could contact Clymer too, to see if they have one in the works? Actually, a consensus of the service manuals available for the Honda ST1100 has shown that Haynes ranks last, with Clymer in second place and the Honda manual being tops. I suspect this could hold true for all brands.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Carlsberg Wordsworth on October 22, 2021, 09:03:38 pm
It took a few years for Haynes to bring one out for the Bullet.

You'd think though, given the rise in R.E popularity, and that they lend themselves well to the home mechanic, that they'd be on it pdq.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: SAM+TUCKER on October 23, 2021, 06:15:20 am
Since you have some initiative in this quest, maybe you could contact Clymer too, to see if they have one in the works? Actually, a consensus of the service manuals available for the Honda ST1100 has shown that Haynes ranks last, with Clymer in second place and the Honda manual being tops. I suspect this could hold true for all brands.


I attempted to do that however it looks as if Clymers is associated with Haynes manuals somehow they’re connected or one and the same company. Clymers only list one book for motorcycles a vintage book that includes  many different brands and it has been discontinued
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Indobiker on November 10, 2021, 01:56:41 pm
Recent update from my dealer... Royal Enfield will NOT provide (for sale or otherwise) a workshop manual for owners of the Meteor 350. It seems that the new Royal Enfield business model is that owners are to be locked into their local authorised service centre for maintenance and repairs. It's kind of like the luxury watch business model, where expensive routine service that can only be done by the dealer is often necessary to keep your investment working properly. Personally, I find this appalling, especially since I live 1,100 kilometres away from the nearest service centre (for some reason, Royal Enfield has been dramatically shrinking its network in Indonesia). Food for thought for any wannabe owner of a Meteor. Be prepared to pay your local service centre to do everything for you, or else make guesses about the technical specifications (eg torque settings) for maintaining, repairing or accessorising your motorbike if you want to DIY. While I love my Meteor, given that in Indonesia the one and only authorised dealer isn't able to provide vehicle licensing for at least four months after purchase (which they conveniently neglect to mention at the time of sale) and then expect you to use them for service even if you are a thousand kilometres away, has given me major buyer's remorse. Anyone from Indonesia reading this should really re-consider buying a Royal Enfield Meteor 350, it's not worth the hassle given the bike's USD 8,000 price tag here. In the meantime, fingers crossed for a brave soul in an official RE workshop somewhere in the world to post the manual online...
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Bilgemaster on November 10, 2021, 03:42:51 pm
It took a few years for Haynes to bring one out for the Bullet.

You'd think though, given the rise in R.E popularity, and that they lend themselves well to the home mechanic, that they'd be on it pdq.

Haynes may have squeezed out a manual for the UCE Bullets, but we original model "Iron Barrel" owners are still waiting for ours. How long's it been since the longest continuously-produced and virtually unchanged model of vehicle ever manufactured first saw the light of day? Seventy years or so? And we're still waiting? Maybe those new Meteor owners shouldn't hold their breath for a so-called Haynes Book of Lies. (Actually, I adore my Norton Twins one)

I like the new Meteors. I really do. Yet, unlike the still reasonably fresh crop of newfangled 650s, for which a service manual is readily available, I'd find it very hard to unreservedly recommend purchasing a Meteor or its Classic sibling if Royal Enfield has decided to suppress access by owners to even the most basic means of maintaining it. Even the apparent closely-held mystery regarding something so mundane as the proper type spark plug to use in it is also troubling.

Perhaps all that closely-held secrecy and blunt advisories to "See your authorized Royal Enfield Service Center" may make some sillyass kinda sense in their home market, where dealerships may abound, but as others have already pointed out, all self-reliance and "bootstrappiness" aside, such dismissive highhandedness just to drive business their way may not be an entirely feasible notion in locales where one's nearest dealership may be several hundred kilometers or even miles distant.

Until the veil is lifted, I personally wouldn't even consider buying a Meteor new or used any more than I might some mongrel Chinese scoot for which parts and service info are basically inobtainable.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: 20MarkIII on November 10, 2021, 03:56:22 pm
Kind of ties in with RE's instruction to take your Meteor to a dealer to have fasteners properly torqued as seen on their Maintenance Tutorials. WTH? You do the work but still have to pay a dealer torque fasteners? SMH... ::)
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 10, 2021, 04:17:32 pm
Personally it doesn't bother me, I have a brand new bike with three years warranty so I'm covered for the first three years.

After that if I keep it and don't px it, I plan on getting it regularly serviced by a RE dealership so again not my problem.

My only problem then is to decide where to go for a ride  ;).
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on November 10, 2021, 04:50:15 pm
Personally it doesn't bother me, I have a brand new bike with three years warranty so I'm covered for the first three years.

After that if I keep it and don't px it, I plan on getting it regularly serviced by a RE dealership so again not my problem.

My only problem then is to decide where to go for a ride  ;).

Yes, you ARE covered for three years, should some component fail, as we all are, but you are not covered for all the routine maintenance costs that you see listed in your owner's manual and those services, (shop rate @ $80 - $100.00 per hour), which many of us are capable of doing ourselves, will cost you a bundle over three years and for as long as you own the bike.

Stories of bungled work done on owner's bikes by dealers abounds on any m/c website you can find, hence, those that are capable like to do it themselves to ensure it is done right, according to the factory service manual in many cases.

Right to repair legislation is being looked at by governments right now, as this corporate money grab, by holding vehicle specifications hostage by the manufacturer and dealers, is an overreach of their authority over the vehicles they sell.

If you are happy to spend hundreds, or thousands of dollars over the course of many years of owning a vehicle, that is your right, but most of us would prefer to save that money for trips and fuel and buying just those parts that we need to keep our bikes in fine working order.

In 26 years of owning a Honda ST1100, I have saved literally tens of thousands of dollars by doing all the work on this bike myself, except for tire changes, thanks to having the factory service manual from Honda.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 10, 2021, 05:29:48 pm
Yes, you ARE covered for three years, should some component fail, as we all are, but you are not covered for all the routine maintenance costs that you see listed in your owner's manual and those services, (shop rate @ $80 - $100.00 per hour), which many of us are capable of doing ourselves, will cost you a bundle over three years and for as long as you own the bike.

Stories of bungled work done on owner's bikes by dealers abounds on any m/c website you can find, hence, those that are capable like to do it themselves to ensure it is done right, according to the factory service manual in many cases.

Right to repair legislation is being looked at by governments right now, as this corporate money grab, by holding vehicle specifications hostage by the manufacturer and dealers, is an overreach of their authority over the vehicles they sell.

If you are happy to spend hundreds, or thousands of dollars over the course of many years of owning a vehicle, that is your right, but most of us would prefer to save that money for trips and fuel and buying just those parts that we need to keep our bikes in fine working order.

In 26 years of owning a Honda ST1100, I have saved literally tens of thousands of dollars by doing all the work on this bike myself, except for tire changes, thanks to having the factory service manual from Honda.
Yes I hear what you are saying but for me personally a RE dealership doing the servicing will suit me better. 

The milage I do will be small probably less than 1000 miles a year and service intervals for me at least will be far apart.



Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: usasmartindian on November 12, 2021, 04:22:46 pm
Folks, I am located in Dallas, TX. the first service cost is around $600 for my meteor 350 stellar. I am handy myself as these dealers charge hell a lot of money. If any one is interested in the service manual email me. I got it from RE factory on all the details of the bike. Will be glad to share it with who ever is interested as its a huge file around 350 mb PDF around close to 2000 pages.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: andif62 on November 12, 2021, 05:19:43 pm
Sending per email will be difficult but if there is another way to share…
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 12, 2021, 05:25:31 pm
Can the admins help and get it posted on the site ?
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on November 12, 2021, 05:30:31 pm
Can the admins help and get it posted on the site ?

Not likely, as that would violate copyright laws.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 12, 2021, 06:15:31 pm
Not likely, as that would violate copyright laws.
Still worth asking those who know.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: xpop on November 12, 2021, 08:15:48 pm
Usasmartindian is confirmed serious. I just received the service manual.
Glad to see a a man you can trust.
1126 pages of information !
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Carlsberg Wordsworth on November 12, 2021, 11:10:40 pm
1126 is closer to 1000 than 2000.........

Any screenshots?
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: andif62 on November 13, 2021, 06:53:54 am
Strange…at first I‘ve got a notification from the forum, with a link to Google Drive, that did not not work. After that 2 emails arrived, asking me for 50 $ payment for the manual…
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: xpop on November 13, 2021, 08:45:12 am
1126 is closer to 1000 than 2000.........

Any screenshots?
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: xpop on November 13, 2021, 08:47:14 am
Usasmartindian want a reward for this manual, for example I send him 10$
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: andif62 on November 13, 2021, 09:00:36 am
Thanks, looked like a scammer at first. Did you get a Google Drive link for your download?
BTW asked me for paying 25$. Had bought it for 50$ 8)
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 13, 2021, 10:31:55 am
Bit deceitful should have said from the off that he wanted payment for it.  Think I will wait till it becomes more widely available from a more trustworthy source.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dantheman on November 13, 2021, 02:57:44 pm
Can the admins help and get it posted on the site ?

Royal Enfield have produced a comprehensive workshop manual for this model, but it is not something they allow dealers to sell in a paper format or even give away as a free of charge download. Of course, this should be made available to owners in one form or another as it is an incredibly useful asset, but ourselves and dealers are restricted by Royal Enfield on this. Hopefully RE may take another stance in the future, so that these manuals can be made easier to access for private owners.

The manual sounds like it is in circulation already, and whilst we cannot host this directly on the forum, an easy way for files to be shared would be through something like google drive.   

Just to note, and it may not be anything sinister, but please urge on the side of caution when sending across your private e-mail address, and certainly do not entertain making any form of payment for someone to send a copy of these manuals.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: LanesExplorerUK on November 13, 2021, 03:09:37 pm
Thank you that's really interesting and wise advice, Dantheman. From that screenshot it looks like a lovely workshop manual which would be not only useful but enjoyable to have on the bookshelf for any Meteor enthusiast.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 13, 2021, 03:14:45 pm
Royal Enfield have produced a comprehensive workshop manual for this model, but it is not something they allow dealers to sell in a paper format or even give away as a free of charge download. Of course, this should be made available to owners in one form or another as it is an incredibly useful asset, but ourselves and dealers are restricted by Royal Enfield on this. Hopefully RE may take another stance in the future, so that these manuals can be made easier to access for private owners.

The manual sounds like it is in circulation already, and whilst we cannot host this directly on the forum, an easy way for files to be shared would be through something like google drive.   

Just to note, and it may not be anything sinister, but please urge on the side of caution when sending across your private e-mail address, and certainly do not entertain making any form of payment for someone to send a copy of these manuals.
Thanks admin that's sound advice :)
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: SAM+TUCKER on November 13, 2021, 05:56:49 pm
Thanks admin that's sound advice :)

I glad that manuel actualy exist .   I would be happy to pay for it.   Waiting for a more sercure way to purchace it.
I have serveral Service Manuals from CYCLEPEDIA  they are very detailed and well done.  Had a phone conversation with Greg at Cyclepedia ,  he stated he would love to produce one for the Meteor but has not been able to get any information to do so.
Hopeful Royal Enfield will be more open with this needed information  which other manufactures provide .   This a very well designed and manufactu;red motorcycle,  you would think Royal Enfield would be proud to share this information with us.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 13, 2021, 05:59:45 pm
I glad that manuel actualy exist .   I would be happy to pay for it.   Waiting for a more sercure way to purchace it.
I have serveral Service Manuals from CYCLEPEDIA  they are very detailed and well done.  Had a phone conversation with Greg at Cyclepedia ,  he stated he would love to produce one for the Meteor but has not been able to get any information to do so.
Hopeful Royal Enfield will be more open with this needed information  which other manufactures provide .   This a very well designed and manufactu;red motorcycle,  you would think Royal Enfield would be proud to share this information with us.
Now we know that they are out in the wild it's only a matter of time untill they show up somewhere, my betting is on eBay before long.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on November 14, 2021, 11:39:35 pm
A decent fellow RE enthusiast would offer this to all for FREE, regardless if there was an initial illegal expense involved for him/her to obtain it.

Profits for the sale of this material should only belong to Royal Enfield, as they own the copyright, but since they refuse to offer it for sale to the general public, I would suggest a free online version would possibly make RE and other manufacturers realize that their tactic of withholding technical information will never work and thus discourage this practice from becoming more widespread.

I urge xpop to forego his financial considerations for this manual and offer up that PDF to all who need it. Maybe he will consider that once he has his $10 back.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on November 15, 2021, 02:36:09 am
I urge xpop to forego his financial considerations for this manual and offer up that PDF to all who need it. Maybe he will consider that once he has his $10 back.

My bad. xpop hasn't offered the manual for money in return. That was usasmartindian, so I say the same to him about offering this for free, at least once he has recouped his $50. Maybe xpop will consider this too?
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Indobiker on November 15, 2021, 10:31:54 am
A decent fellow RE enthusiast would offer this to all for FREE, regardless if there was an initial illegal expense involved for him/her to obtain it.

Profits for the sale of this material should only belong to Royal Enfield, as they own the copyright, but since they refuse to offer it for sale to the general public, I would suggest a free online version would possibly make RE and other manufacturers realize that their tactic of withholding technical information will never work and thus discourage this practice from becoming more widespread.


Hear, hear. I would hope that someone having a copy of this manual, eg @usasmartindian or @xpop would provide it without obligation via a google drive link or similar. We are a community of Royal Enfield riders who should (and often do) help each other out with various bits of information, experiences and advice. Sometimes providing, sometimes receiving. That's the way the best forums work.
Title: Meteor Workshop Manual Spotted "In the Wild"
Post by: Bilgemaster on November 16, 2021, 11:48:03 pm
I don't own one of those newfangled Meteors, but it may interest those who do or may plan to that a PDF of its Service Manual  has found its way into the wild as a free download on this Russian cloud server, much as had been earlier prophesied in this thread, at: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LRVf/dC5NZW3pQ

If one DOES access and view that file, then an abundance of legal caution compels me to warn others on the Forum that they may inadvertently risk contravention of the 1886 Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works  or other international copyright accords by doing so, just like I may or may not have just successfully done in an investigatory capacity by first clicking that red PDF icon and then clicking the little white downward-arrow download icon on a blue background to commence its free download. Depending on one's web browser, one may or may not need to open that download once complete with another viewer such as Adobe Reader or a word processor. Which would be wrong. So very very wrong, unless you're some sort of scofflaw who doesn't care what it takes to know those torque settings.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0523/1289/files/Boris_Badenov_medium.jpeg)
"Try file. Is good!"


Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on November 17, 2021, 02:01:44 am
That's a beautiful thing Bilgey! Thanks for bringing it to the attention of the hive! Mucho appreciated by all I'm sure.

Cue the dancing emoji, which we don't have.

Dexter
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Bilgemaster on November 17, 2021, 04:38:09 am
This may be an appropriate one, given the source...

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Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Fubars on November 17, 2021, 07:19:48 am
Excellent thanks very much, love the Bear 😁
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Indobiker on November 17, 2021, 02:39:13 pm
Thank you, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: LanesExplorerUK on November 18, 2021, 04:47:51 pm
Thank you so much! And what a superb workshop manual it is, too!
Plenty of reading within its 1200 odd pages 🤓
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Daze on November 21, 2021, 01:08:29 pm
Thanks for the work in finding this!  It’s going to be super useful!!
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: SAM+TUCKER on November 24, 2021, 03:54:22 pm
THANK YOU
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: usasmartindian on November 28, 2021, 10:42:50 pm
Hear, hear. I would hope that someone having a copy of this manual, eg @usasmartindian or @xpop would provide it without obligation via a google drive link or similar. We are a community of Royal Enfield riders who should (and often do) help each other out with various bits of information, experiences and advice. Sometimes providing, sometimes receiving. That's the way the best forums work.

Folks see have become a topic of discussion. Now coming to the free part would have done it myself had I received it for free. Had to shell around $50 and time to get the original soft copy of the complete service manual. Chippin in the costs will not only help me but also others save. I am not here to make money but an IT professional and an new bike owner like all of you guys. I did have Xpop pay a nominal amount to recoup my costs of investing on getting one. thanks appreciate the right words and not spread words of uncertainty or myself here to play shenanigans. thanks!
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Ferdi on December 02, 2021, 08:48:58 pm
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LRVf/dC5NZW3pQ

to me not working  :'(
if anyone would like to pass it to me on the Drive, it would do me a great pleasure. private message I need for personal use. Thanks
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: pacogun on December 02, 2021, 09:16:00 pm
Thank you @bilgemaster.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Bilgemaster on December 03, 2021, 07:34:19 am
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LRVf/dC5NZW3pQ

to me not working  :'(
if anyone would like to pass it to me on the Drive, it would do me a great pleasure. private message I need for personal use. Thanks

Per favore:
Fare clic sull'icona "PDF" rossa, quindi fare clic sulla piccola freccia bianca su sfondo blu.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Ferdi on December 03, 2021, 09:10:32 pm
Per favore:
Fare clic sull'icona "PDF" rossa, quindi fare clic sulla piccola freccia bianca su sfondo blu.

Thank you Bilgemaster
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: markm228 on December 05, 2021, 04:27:19 pm
Yes, you ARE covered for three years, should some component fail, as we all are, but you are not covered for all the routine maintenance costs that you see listed in your owner's manual and those services, (shop rate @ $80 - $100.00 per hour), which many of us are capable of doing ourselves, will cost you a bundle over three years and for as long as you own the bike.

Stories of bungled work done on owner's bikes by dealers abounds on any m/c website you can find, hence, those that are capable like to do it themselves to ensure it is done right, according to the factory service manual in many cases.

Right to repair legislation is being looked at by governments right now, as this corporate money grab, by holding vehicle specifications hostage by the manufacturer and dealers, is an overreach of their authority over the vehicles they sell.

If you are happy to spend hundreds, or thousands of dollars over the course of many years of owning a vehicle, that is your right, but most of us would prefer to save that money for trips and fuel and buying just those parts that we need to keep our bikes in fine working order.

In 26 years of owning a Honda ST1100, I have saved literally tens of thousands of dollars by doing all the work on this bike myself, except for tire changes, thanks to having the factory service manual from Honda.

Amen, Dexter! I've wrenched on my own bikes too. I've outsourced things that don't happen often enough to justify investing in special tools, e.g. changing fork oil. I also used to outsource valve checks; my previous bikes were Jap bikes that had long service intervals, and they had the PITA shim & bucket system that's a nightmare to work on. For tires, I'd pull the wheel, and bring it to a local shop to change the tire. While they were changing one, I'd go back home, pull the other tire, and bring it them; by that time, they were done with the first tire, which I brought back and mounted. When I was done with that, I'd pick up the second tire. Unfortunately, that shop closed.

But yeah, I don't like the fact that RE won't share the service manual. While there may be RE dealers on every corner in India, that's not the case in the US. We only have 140, which puts most of us some distance away from one. My closest RE dealer is 45 minutes away; the next closest is an hour or so; and the next three closest RE dealers are 2-3 hours away. Not only is there the issue of questionable dealer work; there's the issue of even GETTING to and from the dealer in the first place! You'll need a ride from the dealer when you drop off your bike, and you'll need a ride there to pick it up. How many of us like to ask friends or family, who are busy themselves, to take 1.5 hours, minimum, to help us twice? How many of us want to pay for a cab, car service, or Uber to get to and from the dealer?

It would be one thing if they were 10-15 minutes away; arranging the logistics of getting your bike to the dealer is so much easier when they're close, i.e. less than 30 minutes away. It's another thing when they're farther away than that. I wish RE would be mindful of that.

Oh, and my closest RE dealer was backed up TWO MONTHS! That's right; if you called today to make an appointment for your first service, you'll be waiting until early-mid February to get the work done. Seriously? While I don't mind being without my bike during winter, I mind very much riding it there this time of year. You want me to ride it over there in February, in PA?! GTFOOH! And I surely don't want to be waiting two months to ride when riding season is here...

Thankfully, I'm lucky in that the service manager at my RE dealer has printed out manual pages for me. I simply said that, since I live far away, it's hard to bring the bike in; it's easier for me to do the work myself. I think part of him is relieved to not have yet another cycle owner adding to his backlog, so he's helped me out with that... :)
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Ferdi on December 06, 2021, 09:04:08 pm
The guarantee with us works in another way.
Any certified mechanic can carry out maintenance work and use the warranty without interrupting the validity of the warranty only on condition that original spare parts are used.
Here in Northern Italy we are not bad in terms of distance from the RE dealers, while the situation in Southern Italy is more critical
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: andif62 on December 07, 2021, 05:49:33 am
In theory it’s the same here in Germany. Problem is to get the spare parts needed for maintenance. If you have bought your Meteor from one dealer and go to another for the service, you might have to wait, because he only has parts on stock for his own customers  :(
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: johnakay on December 07, 2021, 07:16:40 pm
that link work for me,google translate it also in English.
in truth most of us will only service it as with any other bikes.
valve adjustment ,oil and filter change not a lot we can do on the engine other than doing the above if looked after.
if your going to hammer or mistreat it then you can expect trouble.
if your going to have problems it will show it ugly face with in a year.
I've had several if not more brand new bikes and never had any warranty work done and I did or do my own servicing after the 1st year.
one another note why do I have to sign the verification every time I put a post up? does this go off after awhile?
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: glencoeman on December 08, 2021, 09:15:38 am
In theory it’s the same here in Germany. Problem is to get the spare parts needed for maintenance. If you have bought your Meteor from one dealer and go to another for the service, you might have to wait, because he only has parts on stock for his own customers  :(
You can use a non franchised RE dealer, as long as they use genuine RE parts in the service. Just make sure you keep all the receipts with full service details.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: andif62 on December 08, 2021, 09:36:05 am
@glencoeman: as I‘ve told before, the problem is not with the dealer but with the spare parts. Oil filters are selling for 25€ each and gaskets have to be ordered from the authorized distributor KSR, which might be a challenge in the actual supply situation. So I will stay with my RE dealer who is 1h away from me.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: markm228 on December 09, 2021, 03:47:05 am
@glencoeman: as I‘ve told before, the problem is not with the dealer but with the spare parts. Oil filters are selling for 25€ each and gaskets have to be ordered from the authorized distributor KSR, which might be a challenge in the actual supply situation. So I will stay with my RE dealer who is 1h away from me.
I've been able to find online whatever parts my RE dealer doesn't have. Hitchcock's in the UK is an excellent source; they have RE parts going back to 1939! I've also ordered from an Indian company selling on Ebay; they sell a first service kit that includes the gasket, o-rings, filter, etc. that you need. That was about $50, US.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: rvp@epbfi.com on December 31, 2021, 05:43:53 pm
I just downloaded the Meteor shop manual using the link provided on this post with no problem whatsoever.  There were no charges of any kind and no requests for "rewards".  The manual appears to be just what the doctor ordered and provides all the info you would be likely to need doing services or repair yourself.   
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Carl Fenn on December 31, 2021, 06:19:07 pm
Simple they don’t want owners working on their bikes that’s why they change things so quickly, German and EU parts on all bikes now including abs they have created a massive industry out of it l think they call it corporate gain, all their manuals are protected by copyright law no one dear print them.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: markm228 on January 08, 2022, 07:40:29 pm
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LRVf/dC5NZW3pQ

to me not working  :'(
if anyone would like to pass it to me on the Drive, it would do me a great pleasure. private message I need for personal use. Thanks
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: scooter85 on February 26, 2022, 09:47:57 pm
there is a service manual available on here to down load. it's 1100 pages. I don't remember where I found it. I'll see if I can figure out how to down load off my computer.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on February 26, 2022, 10:39:45 pm
there is a service manual available on here to down load. it's 1100 pages. I don't remember where I found it. I'll see if I can figure out how to down load off my computer.

Reply # 36 on page three of this thread.
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: thelksharma on March 01, 2022, 04:42:30 am
If anyone needs paperback workshop/service manual for Meteor 350 or 650 Twins - then reach out to RPC, they can ship it across. They are reachable at info@roadpowercustoms.com

Thanks
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: markm228 on March 04, 2022, 01:29:35 am
If anyone needs paperback workshop/service manual for Meteor 350 or 650 Twins - then reach out to RPC, they can ship it across. They are reachable at info@roadpowercustoms.com

Thanks

Thank you! That's most excellent... :)
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: oldcolin on March 04, 2022, 05:42:50 pm
Hi

I think Haynes have said they will not produce any new modern car manuals.  Not sure about Bike ones.

Colin
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Dexter on March 04, 2022, 09:17:25 pm
The best manuals, if you can get them, are from the manufacturer of course and Clymer also makes manuals, which are generally considered a notch above Haynes in accuracy and completeness. When Honda made the ST1100/1300 models,(Pan European across the pond), they did sell the manuals and ST owners overwhelmingly list them as Honda #1, Clymer #2 and Haynes as a last resort.

With our RE products, so far at least, we have managed to find workarounds to get the 650 and 350 manuals out to the owners via the internet, when RE has decided it will not sell them directly to anyone. Even dealers can not get paper copies of the manuals.

Seems a short sighted position to take, costing RE potential profit, as there will always be DIY'ers who can do the work themselves and will find ways, as we have, to get the manuals needed anyway.

I'm not sure how the RPC company mentioned above is selling paper copies and getting away with it, as there are copyright laws that can be applied to them. Maybe RE is not pursuing protecting their copyright?
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Ferdi on March 08, 2022, 08:22:08 am
however the fact remains that this manual is full of even very trivial errors.
The last chapters are about the various checks to be performed practically they are a copy and paste.
In RE they have never been so precise.
A dear friend of mine is completely translating this manual into Italian and is a discreet technician working on freight ships.
In his previous work on the workshop manual of serious errors he had counted and corrected 86
Title: Re: Work shop manual
Post by: Carl Fenn on March 16, 2022, 12:33:34 pm
I know Road power customs do some factory work shop manuals but they are costly, you may be able to get a pdf version printed into a paper version if you can find right printer which would be a way round it.