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<<<   https://4patriots.com/   >>>
Their ad precedes this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XX9ptCNpik
This is a pretty creepy place. Folks gleefully preparing for Armageddon or Insurrection II by selling "patriots" dried package meals and seeds for about 5x retail. This is a real Branch Davidian/Euralian/Jonestown thing, morphing into a self fulfilling prophecy. My favorite is the folks cheerfully eating semi-lethal doses of Ivermectin while declaring they'd rather die than get a C19 vaccine.
 >>>   https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/08/21/us-fda-warns-public-against-taking-horse-wormer-treat-covid-19/   <<<


Here's the planned Pro-Insurrection Rally:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/features/producers-picks/us-capitol-police-aware-revisionist-insurrection-protest-capitol-september/65-6e8cb04f-801c-4b3f-89a3-3244138d31b9

https://wjla.com/news/local/september-18-pro-insurrectionist-rally-us-capitol

https://www.newsweek.com/police-dc-concerned-about-september-justice-rally-charged-capitol-rioters-1620751


All this hoohah coincides with the belated extraction efforts in Afghanistan, which unfortunately have a 9/1/2021 deadline. The Kabul Airport would be a tough place to defend from iijits lobbing in mortars & RPGs from the surrounding inhabited city. No good options there.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/18/biden-us-troops-afghanistan-31-august-deadline

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/8/mission-accomplished-us-speeds-afghanistan-withdrawal


Around here some of the local RtWngBoaz are suddenly putting on a low profile from their normal "in your face, REAL-president-supporting, flag & banner waving" of the last few months. I'm starting to feel like the wagon train folks did in the quiet just before the Comanches or Apaches attacked.

In the words of Rodney King "Can't we all just get along?"... :o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King#:~:text=During%20the%20riots%2C%20on%20May,older%20people%20and%20the%20kids%3F

I for one will be glad to see the end of September.
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When I was a small boy during WWII my parents gave me a beautiful color child's book with that title, but with a completely different cover. It had drawings of WWII battlefields with a short explanation describing the illustrated battle, both on ships and in the desert. That was the first time I saw a group of sailors shooting a 4-barrel 1.1" "Chicago Piano" at a Japanese plane that was attacking the ship.

My mother used to play a WWI piano piece titled "American Patrol" that had a drawing of the Great White Fleet steaming through the ocean on its front cover, which I really liked to hear.
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I would think this time around the national guard won't be sidelined and the police will not be understaffed, the protesters will not have a walk in the park like before if they get aggressive.

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A local reporter has recorded "Proud Boys" & others physically accosting & roughing up mask wearing members of the public with the police looking on and doing little to nothing. Interestingly they don't seem to be doing this in Arizona & Texas, open carry states. Maybe the "cost of doing business" is higher there...or the price of stupidity. :o 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/proud-boys-are-teaming-up-with-anti-maskers-to-threaten-school-boards-over-covid-mandates

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/caught-on-camera-anti-maskers-berate-staff-at-vancouver-pizzeria-appear-to-rough-up-teenager-1.5331422

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/next-covid-war-school-vaccine-mask-mandates-n1277372

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-column-parents-violence-educators-masks-vaccines

Extremists in police ranks spark growing concern after Capitol riot
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/politics/elections/2021/03/21/police-charged-capitol-riot-reignite-concerns-racism-extremism/4738348001/
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@ #2: KC, the 06 Jan morons were all-in-all pretty feckless. The mood seems to have changed, I think they are gunning for a showdown, a real "Fight Club" moment. These radicalized American Taliban need martyrs to justify their continued belligerence & extreme rhetoric.

If it actually comes to that, it seems to have escaped them that the big winners are the Chinese & Russians, NOT the USA. I just asked another Alt-Right fellow tonight what his big plan would be to fix everything and he just shuts down mid-conversation, as a few others have done also. Somethings afoot. Hopefully the PD, National Guard & Armed Forces will hold together when the unpleasantness starts.

The recent vaccine mandate, to either get the vaccine or quit your job will affect a lot of loosely wrapped folks. Cutting off access to someone's livelihood is often ( for some unknown reason... ) interpreted as a direct threat. That can't help but add more pressure to the mix.

Lucky for us we live in sparsely populated areas, eh? Keep your head down - ACR -
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Polarizing US society must be great fun for "outside influences". Take care, people!

Any parallels?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needful_Things

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Sadly we have just had four years of this element being enabled by the previous administration. it's difficult now to put them back under the rocks they crawled out from. Easily manipulated and of troglodyte intelligence level they don't see the bigger picture or how they are being used as pawns by those that crave ultimate power and control of this country. Were that take over to ever happen they will be pushed aside like the Brown Shirts were in Nazi Germany, there will be no reward or place for them in the power elite's envisioned new world order.


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KC, A generous +1 to that. My favorite is the "people of colour" espousing the sentiments of this group. As you say, 15 minutes after a "win", the pogroms would begin, clearing the field save for the anointed few. It's that "means to an end" thing.

The kicker to me is that these folks can't say/won't say/or just don't know what they want or exactly what is supposed to happen next.

That to me says either air gap in the thinking or deliberate concealment of intent, neither of which is good.

As far as "Polarizing US society must be great fun for "outside influences".", it's classic Sun Tzu, don't waste your own resources if avoidable. Rendering a "competitor" combat ineffective is a real tactical gain. All this is driven by competition over physical resources. Russia is intent on re-establishing a buffer zone. China seems to be recreating the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" idea from 1931's Imperialistic Japan era. Their "One Belt One Road", artificial island building & odd resurrection of the flying boat point squarely in that direction. The AG600 doesn't care if the runway on an island is unusable, it'll still have a shoreline, so rapid resupply is always possible. Their hypersonic DF-ZF anti-ship missile could keep our warships out of combat range, allowing their air defenses to protect the resupply AG600s. The shallow ocean there is perfect for their benthic sub fleet and hellish for our fast attack boats. Australia, New Zealand & Tasmania are also part of the mix, note the quiet preparation by PM Morrison.

I don't think it's all that hard to figure out who's driving the on-line creep show here in the US or who is likely to benefit. The crazy part to me is how many have willingly bought into it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVIC_AG600
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-runway_penetration_bomb
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https://www.airforcemag.com/china-now-tops-us-in-shipbuilding-missiles-and-air-defense-dod-says/
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/china-submarine-capabilities/
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/30/australia-to-acquire-long-range-missiles-as-pm-warns-of-dangerous-post-covid-19-world
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The subject line made me thing some of you guys are worried about Onlyfans banning pornography.
Glad to hear it's just gun nut rubbish.
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So, what's the excitement on 9/1?

The articles are saying this "Justice for J6" rally is set for 9/18.

Justice for the 2nd event, may come a lot more quickly than last time.   There's a new sheriff.

But, there is always room on the virtual wall of shame, for more names and pictures.  https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/
Up to 615 people charged, a little under a week ago.  https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1

From my limited perspective, its very hard to understand why more folks want in to this fiasco.  Around these parts, it seems like even the staunchest Trumpy has lost most of their momentum.  When Q gave up supplying answers, all that was left were unanswered questions, and of course, the name calling. 

At least we finally found out what the hats are for:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ydEjUGuI4

Much more effective than tin foil!


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AM88 - thanks for that video - like all humor there's some truth there.

About 9/1?  Lots of triggers in September. Kabul deadline is one, could get very messy. Vaccine requirements for continued employment is another. Also the Big Cheese is supposed to re-ascend the throne on September 13 as well, operators are standing by.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/09/fact-check-workers-fired-over-vaccination-can-denied-unemployment/5518818001/
“If your employer is mandating any pokes, DO NOT QUIT,” reads an Aug. 4 Facebook post, which accumulated more than 5,000 shares within two days. “Make them fire you. That way, you get unemployment benefits and can pursue legal action.”
But that's not accurate, according to a dozen employment and labor experts who spoke with USA TODAY.
A worker who does not comply with a company's policy to get vaccinated is generally ineligible for unemployment benefits, experts say. But there are some exceptions – and unemployment qualification is not the same in every state.


I hope you are correct about folks starting to WTFU. I'm hoping the "dark web" is ramping down the rhetoric, we need a break here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/09/trump-election-conspiracies-warning/
https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-lindell-claims-august-13-trump-reinstatement-2021-7
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-trump-reinstated/fact-check-claimstrump-will-be-reinstated-on-august-13stem-from-debunked-conspiracy-theories-idUSL1N2OV1W3
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Speaking of the Big Cheese, on the local Sunday night TV news I saw a clip of him at a rally last weekend and surprisingly he was recommending that his supporters get the virus shot. After that announcement, he was booed by some of his fans in the audience.  :o
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Also the Big Cheese is supposed to re-ascend the throne on September 13 as well, operators are standing by.

The Pillow Guy was saying August 13, and that's the date given in the articles that you posted.  The dates are included in the links you are attaching.

People might get the impression that you are promoting this confused nonsense.

Or Dyscalculia?


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No, not promoting. Just amazed at the general level of disfunction & illogic. As the "ascension du grand fromage" is now about 10 days late, maybe that'll put some braking forces onto the madness train. One can only hope. Come on October...
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No, not promoting. Just amazed at the general level of disfunction & illogic. As the "ascension du grand fromage" is now about 10 days late, maybe that'll put some braking forces onto the madness train. One can only hope. Come on October...

It appears that more and more, ....

The Cheese stands ALONE!

https://www.1011now.com/2021/08/26/capitol-police-officers-sue-trump-allies-over-insurrection/

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-losing-internet-1616035

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/donald-trump-joe-biden-afghanistan
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AM88 - Good news links all!  ;D

Looks like we're down to only 1 in 10 Trump voters believing he'll be reinstated by 2022. That's still about 7,000,000 loose cannons, but an improvement nonetheless.
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9/1/2021? I'm still focused on the ongoing dilemma in "BIDENASTAN".  :o
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Did you miss the press briefings? Didn't you see a guy stand up there and be accountable instead of passing the buck to others and denying all accountability? Did you see the military being allowed to deal with the situation instead of being constantly micromanaged & sharpshot? Did you know that the Big Cheeze negotiated the Taliban deal to be out in May? Do you remember what happened to the Kurds, our last allies, when the Big Cheeze left them to twist in the wind? Where was the GOP outcry then? You are pretty selective about what you want to be angst-ridden about. So far Biden hasn't appointed his relatives to high office and assigned his criminal-tendencied running buddies to lucrative jobs. He's dealing with the issue in a real, straightforward, reality-based manner, more than the predecessor did. Do you always need to reduce situations to buzzwords? Bidenastan? Really, that's all you got, sloganizing?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-syria-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-ac3115b4eb564288a03a5b8be868d2e5

 
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Did you miss the press briefings? Didn't you see a guy stand up there and be accountable instead of passing the buck to others and denying all accountability? Did you see the military being allowed to deal with the situation instead of being constantly micromanaged & sharpshot? Did you know that the Big Cheeze negotiated the Taliban deal to be out in May? Do you remember what happened to the Kurds, our last allies, when the Big Cheeze left them to twist in the wind? Where was the GOP outcry then? You are pretty selective about what you want to be angst-ridden about. So far Biden hasn't appointed his relatives to high office and assigned his criminal-tendencied running buddies to lucrative jobs. He's dealing with the issue in a real, straightforward, reality-based manner, more than the predecessor did. Do you always need to reduce situations to buzzwords? Bidenastan? Really, that's all you got, sloganizing?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-syria-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-ac3115b4eb564288a03a5b8be868d2e5

+1 I'm not sure if Bidens presidency will eventually be judged good, bad or indifferent. But I've got a pretty good idea of how Trump's years in office will go down in history. And I don't think words like honest, smart or loyal will be part of the conversation.


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1)Remove military
2) Leave Equipment for enemy
3)Hope everyone else gets out ok. :o
Cant care about something I and you can do nothing about. Can one word be a slogan?
I just hope everyone gets out alive.
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After watching the Big Cheeze consistently abandon all of his most loyal vassals when inconvenient for 4 years and seeing what happened to the Kurds, can you honestly say that he would have done other than just walk away in May, tell the military to come home, and blame anyone left in country as being just too stupid to get out ahead of time? If you are drawing breath, you know what he'd have done. Just stop it, no one from the GOP was there in 2019 for the Kurds, or earlier for the left-over Iraqis in the Gulf war.
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KC: +10...sadly.  :o

Maybe Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell, Mike Pence, Glen Beck, Tucker Carlson & Ted Cruz will lobby to open Mir-a-Lago as a temporary Afghan refugee centre; I'm holding my breath...
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Well, it's here, it's 9/1/21.

The day isn't over, so maybe something really upsetting is still going to happen.

I hope not.   This is shocking enough:  https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-afghanistan-coulter-supports-biden-decision-to-leave-20210901-m55umlnrw5bejibqebqijzc42i-story.html

Ann Coulter says something "complementary" about WHO?, .... wait, WHAT?


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Wow, that is a shocker! :o


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Righto. So it's September 1st, and I just roused myself from a little nap. Anything happen while I was dreaming of playing Crisco Twister with Ann Margret? Is that Shaman Dude Speaker of the House now and working closely with the Camacho Administration? I like to stay current...


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I told you September would be a month for craziness....only 12 hours into in and Ann Coulter already went completely off the rails...!  :o ;D

The upcoming concerns are likely 9/11 and 9/18.
9/11 is an obvious choice for impromptu, al fresco mayhem. The full moon happens on 9/20, very close to 9/18, that alone can bring out the loosely wrapped folks with not enough to do. Ask the ER doctors.

Come on October!  ;)

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/27/politics/renewed-fears-of-political-violence-grip-capitol-hill/index.html
Adding to the security fears that week, the rally will take place seven days after the 20th anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, which some lawmakers are even more worried about after the Biden administration's chaotic exit from Afghanistan and the deadly attack on the Kabul airport.
The Department of Homeland Security issued a new terrorism bulletin this month highlighting the heightened risks surrounding the 9/11 anniversary and warning the public about increasingly complex and volatile threats facing the country.
"It's a scary week," said one former intelligence officer. "It's a week from hell for DHS, for the ATF, for the FBI, for DOD and for the intelligence community."
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Righto. So it's September 1st, and I just roused myself from a little nap. Anything happen while I was dreaming of playing Crisco Twister with Ann Margret? Is that Shaman Dude Speaker of the House now and working closely with the Camacho Administration? I like to stay current...


Idiocracy  is one of my favorite films, low budget but it speaks volumes as to where we are headed as a nation if we don't shape up.


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Idiocracy  is one of my favorite films, low budget but it speaks volumes as to where we are headed as a nation if we don't shape up.

I suspect our plight may be WAY more obtuse...like we're all actually trapped in some Matrix/The 13th Floor/Welt am Draht  simulation, but the point of that exercise having run its course, now those pandimensional techs are just messing with us, presenting ever more deranged antics and situations just for the lulz. Count yourself lucky if cats don't all begin talking about your car warranty expiring by October, just in time for Halloween.

As for that CNN story's quote, "It's a scary week," said one former intelligence officer. "It's a week from hell for DHS, for the ATF, for the FBI, for DOD and for the intelligence community." Before you grow too concerned with those intelligence workers' states of mind over the next weeks, just remember, if you would, that these are the same "intelligent" agencies that issued at least TWO of the 9-11 highjackers approvals and extensions of their student visas for flight school, delivered to their flight school six months to the day AFTER September 11th. So yeah...Electrolytes!
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I told you September would be a month for craziness....only 12 hours into in and Ann Coulter already went completely off the rails...!
Or maybe you were just looking at all the Tarot cards upside down?  Maybe it's going to be the month when people turn over a new leaf, and start telling the truth.

I've noticed a certain trend in friends and co-workers.  As they age, they seem to become more pessimistic, and certainly more close minded.  Some studies have reported this effect.   https://bestlifeonline.com/pessimist-age/https://bestlifeonline.com/pessimist-age/

It's something we should be aware of when it starts to emerge within us.  I think it makes us more easily frightened, and certainly we enjoy things less.


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Or maybe you were just looking at all the Tarot cards upside down?  Maybe it's going to be the month when people turn over a new leaf, and start telling the truth.

I've noticed a certain trend in friends and co-workers.  As they age, they seem to become more pessimistic, and certainly more close minded.  Some studies have reported this effect.   https://bestlifeonline.com/pessimist-age/https://bestlifeonline.com/pessimist-age/

It's something we should be aware of when it starts to emerge within us.  I think it makes us more easily frightened, and certainly we enjoy things less.

Matt Groening is a keen observer of human behavior. I sometimes see myself turning into this:

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We'll know a lot more by the end of the month, for better or worse. Either there really is a large Alt-Right contingent intending to start some trouble, or that group have finally looked around, decided that things aren't that bad after all, and are now starting to calm down. The Alt-Righters I know are being very quiet. Maybe that's a good thing, time will tell. If nobody shows up for the 9/18 rally, then likely we're done with the foolishness.
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The gauntlet got thrown down today.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-deliver-six-step-plan-covid-19-pandemic-2021-09-09/

https://www.rollcall.com/2021/09/08/as-sept-18-rally-approaches-violent-language-ramps-up-online/
As Capitol Police Chief J. Thomas Manger prepares to brief congressional leaders on a potentially violent rally scheduled for Sept. 18, an internal department assessment reveals more violent online discussion around the event and increased attendance numbers for the demonstration.

The intelligence assessment, dated Sept. 7, notes that in recent days, the department and partner agencies have found more violent online talk surrounding the #JusticeForJ6 rally, organized by Look Ahead America. The event seeks to support pro-Trump rioters who were jailed for their roles in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

A discussion thread on the far-right site 4chan includes calls to “do justice” against “local jews and corrupted officials.” It also says the demonstration should be used as a vehicle to participate in violent acts against local “Jewish centers and Liberal churches” while law enforcement is distracted.

Another comment from the thread reads, “I will be there with my AR15 even though legally I can’t have one f*** the Demonrats.” (ed. note: asterisks inserted by CQ Roll Call)

Look Ahead America, a group led by former Trump campaign employee Matt Braynard, asked for a permit in Union Square at noon on Sept. 18 for 700 participants, a number that has risen from 500.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi has invited Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy to a security briefing by Manger regarding the Sept. 18 rally. The briefing will be held on Monday at 11:15 a.m. in the Speaker’s Office, a source familiar told CQ Roll Call.

In response to questions about preparations for the Sept. 18 rally, Pelosi told reporters Wednesday that “we intend to have the integrity of the Capitol be intact.” She later lamented that the group is coming to Capitol Hill.

“And now these people are coming back to praise the people who were out to kill, out to kill members of Congress,” Pelosi said.

Out of the nine members of Congress who have been invited to attend the rally, seven said they are not going. Those who said they are not attending are Republican Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Tommy Tuberville of Alabama and Mike Lee of Utah and GOP Reps. Louie Gohmert of Texas, Lauren Boebert of Colorado and Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina. CQ Roll Call has not independently verified whether Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., will attend.

Two Republican members have yet to say whether they would attend: Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Matt Gaetz of Florida.

Braynard has said Look Ahead America is focused on “demanding justice” for “political prisoners” and for Ashli Babbitt, the insurrectionist who was fatally shot on Jan. 6 by Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd as she was attempting to breach the Speaker’s Lobby through a broken window.

The Capitol Police’s Intelligence and Interagency Coordination Division and partner agencies “have seen an uptick in discussions in support of the rally, particularly after USCP Lt. Michael Byrd’s media interview,” according to the internal document.

Babbitt’s death has been cast as a form of martyrdom by far-right groups.


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The gauntlet got thrown down today.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-deliver-six-step-plan-covid-19-pandemic-2021-09-09/

https://www.rollcall.com/2021/09/08/as-sept-18-rally-approaches-violent-language-ramps-up-online/

This big event is getting just slightly above ZERO press in my part of the world.  I asked my Trumpy MAGA-head co-worker, from out in the plant, if he had booked his hotel room yet for the big event next weekend, and he said he hadn't even heard about it.

Whoever is running this thing is really failing to get the word out.  Margey Greene isn't even going to be there.  I hope the Pillow Guy shows up, because it's going to be a snooze fest, and they will need his expertise.


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That would be the optimal outcome, the "movement" dies of lack of interest from the genpop. From the articles it sure sounds like the security folks intend to mount a solid defense effort. It'll take someone with a serious mental condition to show up there looking for trouble. Another week and we'll know if the true believers and camp followers are standing down. A non-event on 9/18 will really drive a stake in the heart of all this kak, and not a moment too soon. Now to get those final 100,000,000 scofflaws vaccinated and we can start making some headway.

One important step would be to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. Broadcasting readily disprovable untruths on public airwaves isn't a good thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine#:~:text=The%20fairness%20doctrine%20of%20the,honest%2C%20equitable%2C%20and%20balanced.
The fairness doctrine of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses both to present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was honest, equitable, and balanced. The FCC eliminated the policy in 1987 and removed the rule that implemented the policy from the Federal Register in August 2011.[1]
The fairness doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented. The demise of this FCC rule has been considered by some to be a contributing factor for the rising level of party polarization in the United States.[2][3]
The main agenda for the doctrine was to ensure that viewers were exposed to a diversity of viewpoints. In 1969 the United States Supreme Court, in Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, upheld the FCC's general right to enforce the fairness doctrine where channels were limited. However, the Court did not rule that the FCC was obliged to do so.[4] The courts reasoned that the scarcity of the broadcast spectrum, which limited the opportunity for access to the airwaves, created a need for the doctrine.


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"I'm not sure if Bidens presidency will eventually be judged good, bad or indifferent. But..."

You mean Joe Meat Puppet's presidency.  Obama's retreads are pulling Biden's strings.  Of course it will be viewed favorably.

Riots, arson, looting (in the name of social justice).  Inflation and shortages.  Soaring murder rates.  Welfare for all.  Thousands of illegals with Covid.  A re-energized Islamic jihad.  All for the good if it weakens America.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights now come with a warning label.  A new America is just around the corner.  But it won't be new, just another failed attempt at Marxism. 

When comparing the current state of affairs in America with Nazi Germany, just substitute alt right for Jew.  The new boogie man.
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Nice Kool-Ade driven Alt-Right rant. You just seem to be missing the actual historical reality of the Nazis. You aren't the victims here, not with the widespread Alt-Right identification with the Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, et al. As far as "Constitution", your former President seemed to not have any regard for it. If you want to have a "Dear Leader", ascribing to a cult of personality instead of leadership for the country, that certainly doesn't square with the Constitution. Reducing your thought to parroting Fox/OAN/NewsMax driven sloganizing just makes you a willing tool, not a victim. Did you get your reservation in for the September 18 "Support the Insurrection" rally yet? I heard it'll be a "riot".
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The proud boys are group rednecks willing to trade punches with Antifa.  Antifa are the guys occasionally caught on camera punching people in wheelchairs, and beating up old ladies at the bus stop.
 
The Nazis used the Jews as an excuse to make criminality the law. The alt right now serves the same function.

How many people were sentenced for the 2020 riots, compared to the "insurrectionists" now sitting in jail?   The first inmates of the concentration camps were political opponents.

I believe the left is ultimately going to win.  They are much more ruthless, and dishonest.  I'm old.  I hope you live many years to enjoy what's coming.
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And in a like vein, the "Brown Shirts" could be described as just a group of patriots willing to do whatever it took to put them in a position where they could physically control their fellow Germans.

https://www.historyhit.com/hitlers-bullyboys-the-role-of-the-sa-in-nazi-germany/

https://www.britannica.com/topic/SA-Nazi-organization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

Did you ever notice that when questioned about what they hope to achieve thru electing Trump, his supporters get really quiet. This is somewhat at odds with the avowed principles of the bulk of followers:
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Bible-say-about-doing-something-you-know-is-wrong-but-you-do-it-anyway-because-you-cant-say-no

If you are unwilling to support your position using objective, verifiable fact, that's deception. Judging from the last ex-CiC, that seems to be the desired end. Biden hasn't hired his kids. He's not leasing out property & hotel rooms to wealthy lobbyists. He stumbled on Afghanistan, but it's been largely fixed, and out in the open, and there was acceptance of accountability. This latest vaccine mandate is a necessary step to get past C19 & it's friends. The UK has "Vaccine Passport" in place. To go to lots of countries in the past, your passport had to be stamped that you had had the proper inoculations. I'm really not seeing the difference here. A billion people have had the various C19 vaccines, they aren't going sterile, Bill Gates isn't tracking & controlling them thru imaginary sci-fi only nanobots, millions of them haven't died from the injection either. The absurdity of not getting "the jab" and lowering the risk of ending up on a ventilator or infecting everyone around you is epic and irrational. Not ONE hospitalized anti-vaxxer, when finally pulled off the ventilator, has stood up and said that he'd rather have died. To a man they are regretful for not getting the vaccine. "There are no atheists' in foxholes" Ernie Pyle
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I've probably read as many books on the Nazis as you have.  Most of the brownshirts were former soldiers nursing a sense of betrayal.  Many of the original Nazis were hard core socialists, including Goebbels.   Goebbels actually considered the communists to be natural allies of the Nazis.  But he put aside his ideology to follow his messiah.

Many of the socialists died in the Night of the Long Knives.

What Hitler wanted was the support of the industrialists and military.
 
Had the Nazis won the war, I believe Europe would have ended up looking a lot like East Germany. 

How is it people can hate the Nazis, but not the communists?  Does it just come down to the rhetoric?  The master race.  Pure evil.  Workers of the world unite. Sign me up.
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There is an unsettling correlation between Alt-Right and Nazi symbiology. The casual observer might conclude that the Alt-Right admires their methodology. How does that correlate to just "good ol' boys" that like to knock heads? "Many of the socialists died in the Night of the Long Knives" doesn't really square with the NSDAP being a socialist organization.

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. But to address this canard fully, one must begin with the birth of the party.

In 1919 a Munich locksmith named Anton Drexler founded the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP; German Workers’ Party). Political parties were still a relatively new phenomenon in Germany, and the DAP—renamed the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party) in 1920—was one of several fringe players vying for influence in the early years of the Weimar Republic. It is entirely possible that the Nazis would have remained a regional party, struggling to gain recognition outside Bavaria, had it not been for the efforts of Adolf Hitler. Hitler joined the party shortly after its creation, and by July 1921 he had achieved nearly total control of the Nazi political and paramilitary apparatus.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/05/right-needs-stop-falsely-claiming-that-nazis-were-socialists/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/29/greenes-ahistorical-claim-that-nazis-were-socialists/
http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html
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I've probably read as many books on the Nazis as you have.  Most of the brownshirts were former soldiers nursing a sense of betrayal.  Many of the original Nazis were hard core socialists, including Goebbels.   Goebbels actually considered the communists to be natural allies of the Nazis.  But he put aside his ideology to follow his messiah.

Many of the socialists died in the Night of the Long Knives.

What Hitler wanted was the support of the industrialists and military.
 
Had the Nazis won the war, I believe Europe would have ended up looking a lot like East Germany. 

How is it people can hate the Nazis, but not the communists?  Does it just come down to the rhetoric?  The master race.  Pure evil.  Workers of the world unite. Sign me up.

You seem to be spoon fed by Fox news, your historical references  all seem anecdotal and geared to talking points of doubtful accuracy. Can you really document any of it. The Alt right in this country has all the aspects of fascism, I find it alarming that anyone would actually come to their defense


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The FBI now has a task force to counter the alt right,  America's greatest threat.  I imagine the hard part would be finding enough of them to make it worthwhile. Unless you control the language.  Hey, presto.  It's half the population.  Sic 'em.

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Weeellll, about +10,000 spent their own money & showed up at the capitol on 06 January.  About 10% of the houses here display flags, bunting, Trump flags, F * * K Biden flags (on grade school routes, no less), and about 80% of the shoppers in the local grocery are maskless, so I'd say the potential volunteer pool is "large".

Here's the FBIs assessment:
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/fbi-dhs-domestic-terrorism-strategic-report.pdf/view

https://apnews.com/article/fbi-chris-wray-testify-capitol-riot-9a5539af34b15338bb5c4923907eeb67
In quantifying the scale of the FBI’s work, Wray said the number of domestic terrorism investigations has increased from around 1,000 when he became director in 2017 to roughly 1,400 at the end of last year to about 2,000 now. The number of arrests of white supremacists and other racially motivated extremists has almost tripled, he said.

KEK on, Dude!  :o
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And in a like vein, the "Brown Shirts" could be described as just a group of patriots willing to do whatever it took to put them in a position where they could physically control their fellow Germans.

https://www.historyhit.com/hitlers-bullyboys-the-role-of-the-sa-in-nazi-germany/

https://www.britannica.com/topic/SA-Nazi-organization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

Did you ever notice that when questioned about what they hope to achieve thru electing Trump, his supporters get really quiet. This is somewhat at odds with the avowed principles of the bulk of followers:
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Bible-say-about-doing-something-you-know-is-wrong-but-you-do-it-anyway-because-you-cant-say-no

If you are unwilling to support your position using objective, verifiable fact, that's deception. Judging from the last ex-CiC, that seems to be the desired end. Biden hasn't hired his kids. He's not leasing out property & hotel rooms to wealthy lobbyists. He stumbled on Afghanistan, but it's been largely fixed, and out in the open, and there was acceptance of accountability. This latest vaccine mandate is a necessary step to get past C19 & it's friends. The UK has "Vaccine Passport" in place. To go to lots of countries in the past, your passport had to be stamped that you had had the proper inoculations. I'm really not seeing the difference here. A billion people have had the various C19 vaccines, they aren't going sterile, Bill Gates isn't tracking & controlling them thru imaginary sci-fi only nanobots, millions of them haven't died from the injection either. The absurdity of not getting "the jab" and lowering the risk of ending up on a ventilator or infecting everyone around you is epic and irrational. Not ONE hospitalized anti-vaxxer, when finally pulled off the ventilator, has stood up and said that he'd rather have died. To a man they are regretful for not getting the vaccine. "There are no atheists' in foxholes" Ernie Pyle

What’s even stranger is the marriage of evangelical ‘Christianity’ and the alt-right. Apparently the ECs see it as a vehicle to bring about the end times, much as Reagan did with nuclear armaments. Talk about an unholy alliance.


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Evengelicalism seems to be fragmenting, not just off to the alt-right but also into woke liberalism. For evangelical christianity in the USA or anywhere else for that matter to have allowed itself to be hijacked by any political faction is a terrible mistake. Making it about Jesus PLUS Trump or who/whatever else destroys its focus and has folks in the frankly idolatrous position of no longer trusting in Christ alone but whatever their Jesus PLUS combo is. As for the end times, revivalist hysteria notwithstanding, Christ will return in His own time, not when His more mis-guided professed followers think He should, however much some think they can manipulate these things - I think they'll find this is decided well above their pay grade. We're told to pray "Thy Kingdom come", not try and trigger WWIII so we can get raptured before it all kicks off down here.

Sspeaking of the Reagan era, wasn't that the rise of Jerry Falwewll and the Moral Majority?

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Looks like somebody showed up for the party a few days early:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-police-california-man-knives-machete-dnc-washington

An american flag instead of a license plate, ...... works for me.  That plus one Jedi, "This is not the white supremacist you seek" mind trick and you are in.

I'll beat good old boy T. Carlson to the punch,  "Can you prove this ISN'T another false flag BLM trick?!"


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The comments section of that Fox article was even sadder than the article itself. I liked the photo of the inside of the cab, a real testimonial to not having enough to do. The total amount of crazy is accelerating... :o
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Good local article. Check out the portable hi-tech "cameras on a stick" at second 26 or so, these look a lot like the ones seen on military drones. At the end the reporter asked if the "long range acoustic device (LRAD; crowd dispersal)" was being deployed also, that question was not responded to. The games begin at 12:00 Eastern. Looking like a "Fight Club" moment coming up.
Tyler Durden: Man, I see in Fight Club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables – slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

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I'm thinking you rather missed the point....have you ever watched "Fight Club"? It's interesting and I believe relevant social commentary.
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No I haven't, is it a movie? ...last movie i watched was LeMans 66, my favorite scene was where Enzo Ferrari was peeing Henry Ford the 2nd's shoe.  ;D

I look the Fight Club up, sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip.


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Yep - a great movie cursed with a title that kept folks away in droves. Marla Singer is a memorable character, and keep your eyes peeled for the section where they make soap - not to be missed. In Roanoke, Virginia where I first saw it, the entire audience gasped in unison... :o ;D
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-high-alert-pro-trump-demonstrators-converge-rally-2021-09-18/

That is about the most harmless group of insurrection supporters I ever saw. No camo, no weapons, very little Trump accoutrement. If tonight stays quiet, maybe we're home free.  :D
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The "JJ6 Rally" is over, uneventfully. Only about 450 (largely geriatric) attendees out of the 700 possible. Two casual weapons violations, one knife & one pistol, both resolved peacefully. First hurdle over, hopefully tonight will pass quietly also. It's looking like Axman88 has called it, barring any "Biggo box 'o dumbass" incidents erupting tonight. The PD do indeed seem to be all over it.   "...not with a bang, but a whimper..." T. S. Eliot

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/justice-for-j6/?id=80019940
The Capitol Police Civil Disturbance Unit also responded to a group of protestors and counterprotestors near the Capitol and "separated the groups without incident,"
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The local media is calling the "protesters" "extremists" and appear to be praying for violence so that they can fill up the evening news and give the talk shows something to discuss.  ::) Personally, I think the protest is going to be more of a dud than anything exciting, no matter how the media wants to spin the event.
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Tonight the loonies on both sides have an opportunity to come out & play together. We'll see if both possess the common sense that Gawd gave a rabbit and keep a lid on it. That would be different... ;)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/capitol-protest-live-today-live-updates-b1922230.html
Smaller rallies set to take place around the country
Look Ahead America, the pro-Trump organization behind the plans for Saturday’s rally at the Capitol, says on their website that they will host simultaneous rallies at the sites of the federal courthouse in Charlotte, North Carolina, and outside of a Department of Justice building in Seattle.
Nearly a dozen more events are set to be held next Saturday, the 25 of September, in other state capitals including Phoenix, Richmond, and Austin.


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The "JJ6 Rally" is over, uneventfully. Only about 450 (largely geriatric) attendees out of the 700 possible.
The event didn't have much going for it.

When Matt Braynard announced this event, a month and a half ago, he said there would be prominent speakers present, including members of congress.  There weren't, the most prominent speakers were a couple of pro-Trump candidates, and family members and friends of various people charged in the storming of the Capitol.

Without Trump to inspire a call to action, it's got to be quite a challenge to drum up support for the "patriot tourists" of last January 6.  It seems that a lot of the folks who might be inclined to show up, are still convinced that those people assaulting the Capitol were left wing BLM and/or Antifa activists.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/546484-half-of-republicans-believe-capitol-riot-was-work-of-left-wing 

Why would they want to support THOSE people?


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Good local article. Check out the portable hi-tech "cameras on a stick" at second 26 or so, these look a lot like the ones seen on military drones. At the end the reporter asked if the "long range acoustic device (LRAD; crowd dispersal)" was being deployed also, that question was not responded to. The games begin at 12:00 Eastern. Looking like a "Fight Club" moment coming up.
Tyler Durden: Man, I see in Fight Club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables – slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

https://www.wusa9.com/video/news/local/capitol-police-track-counter-protest-groups-ahead-of-justice-for-j6-rally/65-2c7d4526-1ec9-43fc-9fe8-6c011bdaa301

https://www.acentech.com/blog/long-range-acoustic-devices-lrad-and-public-safety/

Watched. I see a different reality though. We work in jobs we hate and no one needs, we take shit that's mandated up on us to be able to keep our miserable jobs so we can buy the shit we need. We are hoping that our masters return the favours that we have been giving in order to survive and not to walk naked the streets. That day however is never going to come, we are slowly learning the fact, and we are very, very pissed off.
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Lessee if the Phoenix crowd on the 26th is the same lackluster group. Mebbe we're awl dun?

Sparse Right-Wing Protest of Jan. 6 Arrests Draws Huge Police Response
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/us/politics/capitol-sept-18-rally.html
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@ #63:
You have described the exact same thing as the Tyler Durden quote, except from the outside looking in. All that applied equally to the Middle Ages folk living in mud huts outside the castle walls.
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Greta may enjoy moving into the mud hut, nobody is going to bother atleast how much litter she stuffs in there.  :D


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Good article on the "Fight Club" BS in Portland. Nice town used as a playing field by folks with not enough to do.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/08/18/portland-once-again-poised-to-be-battleground/

“Surrounding counties who benefit from the economy of Portland, Oregon need to step up,” he said. “It is no longer morally or politically responsible to sit back and say, ‘well look what’s happening in Portland’ when many of the leaders who are coming into Portland … live in these surrounding counties and adjoining states.”

He points to convoys of far-right demonstrators, often with license plates removed, carrying weapons and being allowed to pass through surrounding jurisdictions, as evidence of the permissive atmosphere that neighboring leaders could address.

Portland isn’t the problem, Ward said, it’s just the battleground.
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In Colorado City the FLDS had control of the local PD. The Feds had to step in.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/colorado-city-wants-out-from-under-some-oversight-of-flds-past

Mebbe the Feds need to straighten out this mess in & around Portland too. The local boys seem to be having too much fun at the expense of the citizenry of Portland, overlooking armed convoys of idiots driving vehicles without license plates and tolerating a year of looting & burning seems excessive.

Maybe we could trade these Portland area Fight Clubbers for some of those Texas bridge dwelling Hattians that actually want to work and get along. The Fight Club crowd would definitely have real issues to deal with when they woke up in Haiti...

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In Colorado City the FLDS had control of the local PD. The Feds had to step in.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/colorado-city-wants-out-from-under-some-oversight-of-flds-past

Mebbe the Feds need to straighten out this mess in & around Portland too. The local boys seem to be having too much fun at the expense of the citizenry of Portland, overlooking armed convoys of idiots driving vehicles without license plates and tolerating a year of looting & burning seems excessive.

Maybe we could trade these Portland area Fight Clubbers for some of those Texas bridge dwelling Hattians that actually want to work and get along. The Fight Club crowd would definitely have real issues to deal with when they woke up in Haiti...

An article in my newspaper today says that Biden will be shipping the Hattians back to where they came from, in the hopes of not giving any more of their countrymen future immigrating ideas.
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