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Reply #255 on: September 30, 2021, 04:06:55 am
Ugly  :(
I'm sensing a general theme here.....

Lets try one that's an outlier, something styled quite a bit different, but still electric.

What do we think of the Juicer electric bikes?   http://www.juicer.bike/

Still ugly?


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Reply #256 on: September 30, 2021, 11:22:13 am
Hmm, i think my consumption of ear plugs on an electric bike would be about as high as on an Enfield Diesel.  ;D
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Reply #257 on: September 30, 2021, 02:07:05 pm
I'm sensing a general theme here.....

Lets try one that's an outlier, something styled quite a bit different, but still electric.

What do we think of the Juicer electric bikes?   http://www.juicer.bike/

Still ugly?

I give Juicer credit for doing something unique in the way of a retro-design motorbike. At least it doesn't look like a rolling pod. But that system of chains and sprockets looks kind of sketchy with their very small counter-shaft sprocket and exposed chain. It will be interesting to see how well their bikes sell and how long they stay in business.
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Reply #258 on: September 30, 2021, 02:52:20 pm
The Juicer isn't ugly. A nice hipster style.
Most e-bikes simply have no effort put in to looking appealing  ::)
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Reply #259 on: September 30, 2021, 07:19:38 pm
I give Juicer credit for doing something unique in the way of a retro-design motorbike. At least it doesn't look like a rolling pod. But that system of chains and sprockets looks kind of sketchy with their very small counter-shaft sprocket and exposed chain. It will be interesting to see how well their bikes sell and how long they stay in business.
I read an interview with David Twomey, the creative mind behind Juicer bikes, and got the impression that he's more of an artist than an engineer.  The bikes are essentially hand made, by him, and in very limited numbers.  Taking the thread in this direction was a bit of a red herring.  I was just playfully trying to see if I could get our friend Nitrowing to admit he liked the looks of any electric bike.

As far as the business model of Juicer, ... that's a done deal.  2020 was hard on a lot of businesses.
http://www.juicer.bike/method.html#contact

Hopefully Mr. Twomey has moved on to a position where he can contribute his considerable artistic talent to some product that will achieve higher market penetration.

Meanwhile, the Kosynier is still in "pay now, get later" mode.  https://kosynier.eu/vintage-electric-bike-kosynier-delux/

I prefer the Juicer.  Batteries stacked in a way that they resemble cylinders seems a lot less pretentious than gluing on a fake plastic engine.   When I was around 8 years old, I received a present of a toy engine that mounted on the frame of my bike.  It had a lever that you would yank to spin an internal mechanism that made Vroom Vroom noises, and that was all it did.  I thanked my dad when he put it on my bike, but I remember feeling a bit embarrassed by the thing.


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Reply #260 on: September 30, 2021, 09:39:57 pm
Taking the thread in this direction was a bit of a red herring.  I was just playfully trying to see if I could get our friend Nitrowing to admit he liked the looks of any electric bike.
Yeah, I know  ;D
There's been very few bikes I've admired in the last 20 years... the Vultus and RC390 are the only 2 I've actually seriously considered buying.
Electric bike design is even more atrocious than currently marketed ICE bikes, they're doing it on purpose and that's unforgivable  >:(
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Reply #261 on: September 30, 2021, 10:49:20 pm
Personally, I never thought much about looks of the Brammo Enertia that was trying to be sold at Best Buy stores. As it was more of a motorcycle than a bicycle, it didn't work out all that well for them - especially when the DMV found out about their plans.  ::)
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Reply #262 on: October 04, 2021, 02:08:22 pm
Here is the latest medium-size electric motorcycle model announcement from China. It includes the usual 45-second teaser video which tells you nothing about the motorcycle other than pretty young women like to ride the bike fast at night.  ::) However, some specifications are included in the article that indicates it has a top speed of 62 mph, but no claimed range is mentioned.
https://thepack.news/ukko-s-from-tromox-guarantees-more-performance-and-fun/
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Reply #263 on: October 04, 2021, 03:39:03 pm
The "Chinese/Taiwanese girl" helmet off/hair flip at the end of your video was a hoot.

A nice "tour" of current electric motorcycles (see what I did there... :o) from vids associated with your link.

10 MOST INNOVATIVE ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES COMING IN 2021-2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSjSUEBamlU

And for us older folks that like to stay dry - check out the "Artega Karo" at minute 12 or so.
Top 10 Mini EVs Available Now - Mini Electric Cars on a Budget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtbkKaDr6Y0


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Reply #264 on: October 04, 2021, 08:00:24 pm
The ukko isn't as hideous as most but I can't see Akira riding it!  ;D
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Reply #265 on: October 19, 2021, 02:10:45 pm
Just what the world needs, a 62-mph stand-up electric scooter.  ::)  https://thepack.news/skyer-motors-technologies-presents-its-ultra-fast-electric-scooter/
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Reply #266 on: October 25, 2021, 02:49:42 pm
https://youtu.be/OkeiEH1BA8M

...or you could get a Jetson One. Minor issue though is that unless you own a small country you may be able to ride it in your garden only.
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Reply #267 on: October 25, 2021, 05:29:34 pm
Jetson 1 - just the thing for the country estate owner with a 5 mile x 5 mile garden, a full charge gets you one 20 minute, 60 MPH lap....maybe. But you could be the coolest kid on the block, eh?

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Reply #268 on: October 25, 2021, 06:17:40 pm
Or you could build an mono seater helicopter for about half the money that doesn't rely on an computer to keep that thing stable in the air which may suffer a sudden bluescreen, power it with an ICE to get that power and range where it ought to be. For the other half of the money you probably could get it to fly legally as well.  ::)
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Reply #269 on: October 25, 2021, 08:11:12 pm
Rather the whole point of the Jetson1 was to give the feckless a way to get airborne. Piloting an actual manually controlled aircraft is a whole 'nother thing that joyriding in an automated skycycle. If you want to get airborne rapidly & cheaply & survive, get a Cosmos Trike or other flex-wing aircraft. Starting off in a rotary wing isn't a recipe for success. To assume that the Jetson1 folks haven't built in redundancy means you didn't read the literature on their site. You don't sell $100K toys to the wealthy without covering your litigious-prone ass.
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