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Reply #135 on: July 07, 2021, 11:05:51 pm
$20k for a 500lb moped  :o :o :o
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Reply #136 on: July 07, 2021, 11:47:35 pm
$20k for a 500lb moped  :o :o :o

Well, more like $13,500 with the Premium Package. Even when you add to that transportation fees, taxes and other governmental fees, you will likely be under $15,000. Still, not quite as good a deal as an Asian ICE around-town scooter, that will sell for around $4K and have about the same performance and a longer range on a full tank of gas.
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Reply #137 on: July 08, 2021, 08:48:49 am
Still, not quite as good a deal as an Asian ICE around-town scooter, that will sell for around $4K and have about the same performance and a longer range on a full tank of gas.
...and doesn't attract BMW servicing costs  ;)
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Reply #138 on: July 08, 2021, 11:02:15 am
...and doesn't attract BMW servicing costs  ;)

...I don't know what BMW charges since I usually service my vehicles myself and rarely owned a factory new vehicle. However the service cost and intensity on the UCE feels rather high, probably the 650 fairs better in that department.


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Reply #139 on: July 08, 2021, 02:37:51 pm
...I don't know what BMW charges since I usually service my vehicles myself and rarely owned a factory new vehicle. However the service cost and intensity on the UCE feels rather high, probably the 650 fairs better in that department.

Around here, BMW dealers are charging about $200 an hour. But that is only a guess as they price their services by the lump sum and don't break out the labor by the hour, only the parts used are listed because they have to charge sales tax on each new part. A typical BMW service takes about 3-4 hours (claimed, although I have seen my motorcycle leave the shop in half that time) and BMW wants most parts removed to be replaced with new ones, like bolts, screws and gaskets.

I have no idea what is involved in servicing their electric scooters, but my Zero has only been back to the dealer once and that was for the 600-mile check up to make sure everything was properly assembled and adjusted at the factory. Since then I have replaced tires and brake pads myself and that is about it.   :)

Here is the official BMW factory spin about their new scooter. What an ugly mother. I bet it is banned in Italy as being offensive to Italian senses. And what is up with that orange fly screen?   ::)   https://electricmotorcycles.news/the-new-bmw-ce-04-unveiled/
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Reply #140 on: July 08, 2021, 03:22:33 pm
It looks weird, I don't know what's up with the mfrg's,  maybe they are having hard time to come up with a designs that don't look alike?

The orange colour windscreen would bug me the least though.

https://www.zigwheels.com/news-features/news/novus-35000-electric-motorcycle-showcased-at-ces/32725/

....this one looks better, price seems better too.

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Reply #141 on: July 08, 2021, 04:26:40 pm
It looks weird, I don't know what's up with the mfrg's,  maybe they are having hard time to come up with a designs that don't look alike?

The orange colour windscreen would bug me the least though.

https://www.zigwheels.com/news-features/news/novus-35000-electric-motorcycle-showcased-at-ces/32725/

....this one looks better, price seems better too.

I don't know about that.  ??? When I see a hole I want to fill it.  ;D
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Reply #142 on: July 08, 2021, 07:18:47 pm
These mileage claims need testing properly.
100km from full charge... at what speed?
100km/h... for how long?
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Reply #143 on: July 08, 2021, 07:26:38 pm
https://www.funbikes.co.uk/p7836_funbikes-harley-fat-boy-red-road-legal-electric-scooter

"optimum range is circa 35 miles, the speed is approx. 30 mph and with a maximum rider weight of 200kg"

£1250

If that price came down to £999 I'd seriously consider one. I weight less than 70kg with all my gear on which gives me over 100kg carrying capacity!
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Reply #144 on: July 09, 2021, 11:31:59 am
I don't know about that.  ??? When I see a hole I want to fill it.  ;D

Move to Sweden, you won´t succeed to plug the holes.  ;)


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Reply #145 on: July 09, 2021, 10:27:26 pm
Speaking of E-bikes, I just finished reading the latest issue of Popular Mechanics magazine and they featured a Specialized mountain electric pedal-assist bike as a product that impressed them. What impressed me was the $13,000 price tag.  ::)
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Reply #146 on: July 10, 2021, 07:54:20 pm
After seeing that cute red scoot at £1250, I thought about converting my really low use mountain bike.
Then thought "Nope"!
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Reply #147 on: July 10, 2021, 08:22:03 pm
After seeing that cute red scoot at £1250, I thought about converting my really low use mountain bike.
Then thought "Nope"!
You can buy a kit that is complete, except for the battery, for considerably less money.  I got a 1000w, 48V wheel kit recently for about $200.  The battery set me back another $140.  I am hoping to cobble this kit onto an old cantilever framed cruiser, but there will definitely be some file work, some spreading of steel stays, and perhaps even a bit of welding involved. 

Dropout and fork width and axle diameters of 50 years ago didn't anticipate E-bike developments.  Modern mountain bikes are quite a bit easier, since the latest ones are generally designed to accommodate disc brakes and wide range derailleur hubs.   I have read that all that may be required is some boring out and filing of the fork or rear dropouts, and the rest is bolt-on.

Privately owned E-bicycles are starting to show up on northwest side Chicago streets this summer as relatively common sights.  Probably much more common in the downtown areas, I seldom visit, where parking is largely in high rise structures or underground and extremely expensive, on the order of $8/hr or $25/day.  Avoiding that expense alone would pay for a nice bicycle pretty quickly, not even considering gas, insurance, registration and the rest. 

Divy bike, our preferred local bicycle rental source, with a city contract and electronic bike vending stations for human and electric powered bikes in every neighborhood, started operating E-bicycles at least a year ago, and those are a very common sight indeed.  These are step through framed, heavy duty, very homely things.


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Reply #148 on: July 11, 2021, 09:21:57 pm
I got a 1000w, 48V wheel kit recently for about $200.  The battery set me back another $140.  I am hoping to cobble this kit onto
Wow! That's a big price difference!
I thought you were going to cobble it on to the RE fpr a second  ;D
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Reply #149 on: July 12, 2021, 12:55:49 am
Wow! That's a big price difference!
I thought you were going to cobble it on to the RE fpr a second  ;D

Don't you worry, people are already doing that: