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Interesting.
https://www.startengine.com/rumblemotors?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paidsocial&fbclid=IwAR1O8nG5vBR2fv1Ir6zaNZV0a91cEq6BvzCjZGmTEyYLsGqrPZ4nWyN0sJ8
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"At Rumble Motors, solving problems customers didn't know they had is a key focus. A prime example was adding engine noises to the bikes. This feature, unique to Rumble's bikes, not only increases safety but exemplifies a commitment to "Make Green Fun", demonstrating that quality alternatives to gas-guzzling transport can be both affordable and enjoyable."
Awesome - now I can take those playing cards I swiped from the Bellagio last year out of my spokes! ;D
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Oh man...That topic is "Trigger Warning" words for Derottone! I dunno...He's got such a grudge against those Norsemen that it makes me wonder if he may have been trapped as a child in a cinema mop closet or something during some particularly long and dreary Bergman film festival.
I recently read something extremely curious about Swedes. Apparently, owing to some folkloric legends of yore, they are said to harbor an irrational fear of badgers. Since badgers are thought never to release their bite until they sense bone cracking, many Swedes wandering in the woods, as they are wont to do, will shove a bunch of those "Wasa" crispy bread things into their rubber boots to fool any marauding badgers they fear they may encounter with that satisfying "Crunch!" So, that's kind of "special", huh?
But just to cheer up Derottone, here's a cheerful and instructive short film that he can bookmark to mortify any Nordic types who may cross his path, like "Hey, Sven! Have a peek at this!": https://youtu.be/4r7wHMg5Yjg
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Awww - I think you're just badgering the boy... : ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA8pxzawUGM
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In general I find it better if Gretas keep building stuff like this than going into drugs for example or becoming just another leadership minion, the minor issue though is that if it doesn't become the greatest market success possible Gretas are going to cry to their mamas and they are going to lynch anyone whom they figure to be responsible for failing to sell this bike to every single soul on the planets surface, taking the "help" from the government too, trying to mandate it on everyone except themselves. As I had the fortune to witness several times. ;D
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’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!”
He took his vorpal sword in hand;
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
He chortled in his joy.
’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
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"At Rumble Motors, solving problems customers didn't know they had is a key focus. A prime example was adding engine noises to the bikes. This feature, unique to Rumble's bikes, not only increases safety but exemplifies a commitment to "Make Green Fun", demonstrating that quality alternatives to gas-guzzling transport can be both affordable and enjoyable."
Awesome - now I can take those playing cards I swiped from the Bellagio last year out of my spokes! ;D
Solving problems customers didn't know they had. ;)
I don't wan't anyone to solve the problems I don't know I have, because they would need to create the problem for me in the first place. If that happened I would be pretty pissed off.
It's a bit different if you have an idea and you believe the customers may appreciate it be it for the purposefulness or just entertainment. That would be called innovation which finds market share or not.
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Amurrica is built upon creating dissatisfaction and selling "solutions" to a unrecognized (i.e. largely created) issue.
Spray tans
Light Beer - drink less?
Fake eyelashes - you already have eyelashes
Ginormous 400HP 4WD pickup trucks - really? To drive around empty 99% of the time with one occupant?
Cell phones other than Flip Fones - get a life! ;D
Mops & toilet brushes with detachable heads so you can toss them into the landfill without touching the "icky" end
"Sports" cars with 4 doors
etc, etc
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Amurrica is built upon creating dissatisfaction and selling "solutions" to a unrecognized (i.e. largely created) issue.
Spray tans
Light Beer - drink less?
Fake eyelashes - you already have eyelashes
Ginormous 400HP 4WD pickup trucks - really? To drive around empty 99% of the time with one occupant?
Cell phones other than Flip Fones - get a life! ;D
Mops & toilet brushes with detachable heads so you can toss them into the landfill without touching the "icky" end
"Sports" cars with 4 doors
etc, etc
Ya, I guess. I'm not that big fan of that style of marketing. ;)
That's the way they sell security services and insurance in Sweden which is what makes me disgusted. If your home is not connected to a security company with alarm system installed you will have an visitor soon, 100% guaranteed. Some shops the are connected to even a couple of security companies additionally to the police. You go to the counter and you may find 3 or 4 cameras pointing at you, each connected to a different place. Honestly it's a joke.... ::) ...Mr. Volvo figures you work for the competition and you have an arabic problem. Nothing more fun working in a firm that employs more security personnel than employees. ;)
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Awww - I think you're just badgering the boy... : ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA8pxzawUGM
Thanks for the link, AzCal! That was some kind of high toreador drama there. And folks: don't miss the video description and its hilarious FAQs. "Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!"
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Another minor issues and electrified everything is that Gretas just want it, and gobi. should pay. Maximally they want to be in charge of the distribution as some project leader or something. So, ya...if gobi. pays for it anyway they could as well make it themselves. Instead of subsidising the marketing and sales of the electric bikes only.
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Aren't we done with Sweden yet? I'm done... :P
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Aren't we done with Sweden yet? I'm done... :P
Than bring up a new subject that's interesting. ::)
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I do - I did - I have-I will continue to do so. Not the issue at all.
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"At Rumble Motors, solving problems customers didn't know they had is a key focus. A prime example was adding engine noises to the bikes. This feature, unique to Rumble's bikes, not only increases safety but exemplifies a commitment to "Make Green Fun", demonstrating that quality alternatives to gas-guzzling transport can be both affordable and enjoyable."
Awesome - now I can take those playing cards I swiped from the Bellagio last year out of my spokes! ;D
The only sound I would want from an electric bike would be the sound that George Jetson's car made.
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The only sound I would want from an electric bike would be the sound that George Jetson's car made.
That sounds appropriate. Very nice. ;D ;D ;D
https://youtu.be/LnT1VgeXOF0
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Was that Elroy driving? ;D
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An oldie, but a goodie:
In the year 2020, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in America and said: "Once again, the earth has become wicked and over-populated, and I see the end of all flesh before me." "Build another ark and save 2 of every living thing along with a few good humans." He gave Noah the blueprints, saying: "You have 6 months to build the ark before I will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights."
Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his yard - but no ark. "Noah!," He roared, "I'm about to start the rain! Where is the ark?"
"Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah, "but things have changed."
"I needed a building permit."
"I've been arguing with the boat inspector about the need for a sprinkler system."
"My neighbors claim that I've violated the neighborhood by-laws by building the ark in my back yard and exceeding the height limitations. We had to go to the local Planning Committee for a decision."
"Then the local Council and the electric company demanded
a shed load of money for the future costs of moving power
lines and other overhead obstructions, to clear the passage for the ark's move to the sea. I told them that the sea would be coming to us, but they would hear none of it."
"Getting the wood was another problem. There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the Greater Spotted Barn Owl." "I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the wood to save the owls - but no go!"
"When I started gathering the animals the ASPCA took me to court. They insisted that I was confining wild animals against their will. They argued the accommodations were too restrictive and it was cruel and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined space."
"Then the Environmental Protection Agency ruled that I couldn't build the ark until they'd conducted an environmental impact study on your proposed flood."
"I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights Commission on how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building crew."
"The Immigration Dept. is checking the visa status of most of the people who want to work."
"The trade unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have to hire only Union workers with ark-building experience."
"To make matters worse, the IRS seized all my assets, claiming I'm trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species."
"So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least 10 years for me to finish this ark."
"Suddenly the skies cleared, the sun began to shine, and a rainbow stretched across the sky."
Back to the drawing board, apparently. Next time god will have to pick a Noah that lives in Texas, instead of California. ::)
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Ask & ye shall receive... ;D
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Here is a Christmas message that derottone should appreciate. This certainly feels like what is going on in California this year and likely next year, too. But this guy may be a little over the top with his message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAYITZRdJk
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Here is a Christmas message that derottone should appreciate. This certainly feels like what is going on in California this year and likely next year, too. But this guy may be a little over the top with his message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAYITZRdJk
Yup, sounds like Sweden. It's tough to leave hell though, because hell doesn't like people leaving.
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Yup, sounds like Sweden. It's tough to leave hell though, because hell doesn't like people leaving.
Very true! And neither does California. If you have a job and pay taxes they need you to fund their many social services programs. >:(
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Hmmm...So Sweden & California prevent you from leaving...so the population roughly doubles in each country each year as the tourism volume about equals the existing population...but it doesn't, so there must be a huge market in human smugglers getting people out. Sounds like a business opportunity for a couple samaritans with anti-Sweden & anti-California sentiments! ;D ;D ;D
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Hmmm...So Sweden & California prevent you from leaving...so the population roughly doubles in each country each year as the tourism volume about equals the existing population...but it doesn't, so there must be a huge market in human smugglers getting people out. Sounds like a business opportunity for a couple samaritans with anti-Sweden & anti-California sentiments! ;D ;D ;D
Wrong, in general it used to like tourists as long as the kept the cash in there and left asap. Population is not increasing anymore, since the import of adopted kids to milk the social industry has come to a halt in 2019.
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...I pulled this out of my leg the day I left it. ;)
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Hmmm...So Sweden & California prevent you from leaving...so the population roughly doubles in each country each year as the tourism volume about equals the existing population...but it doesn't, so there must be a huge market in human smugglers getting people out. Sounds like a business opportunity for a couple samaritans with anti-Sweden & anti-California sentiments! ;D ;D ;D
Elon Musk managed to get smuggled out of California and into Texas, along with a couple of other California billionaires, recently. The ones that were willing to explain their reasons for leaving said it was due to burdensome business regulations and high taxes placed on high earners. That was no big surprise to the media.
And now we have politicians proposing to raise taxes even more on high earners (pick a $$$ number) again to make up for the loss of the big movers. Our Democratic politicians have an insatiable appetite for free money that falls out of trees to fund new and on-going social programs. One new 25-year old Assemblyman is calling for the state to fund universal income for all, free medical services for everyone, and housing for all, which he says is a human right. I might add that he currently lives with his parents, who feed and house him and pay for his medical insurance. I guess he just wants the state to take over the job of his parents. ::)
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Seriously? Guys capable of personally funding a dozen brand-new Nuclear Power Stations and having plenty of cash left are worried about their next meal? Sounds like someone is conflating their own piggybank with Bezos & Musks. Not quite the same thing. Last I read the taxes start to apply to folks making more than $400K yearly. Pretty sure that leaves out everyone I know or have ever worked with, barring my old CEO I met once at a "greet the peons" session. That worthy paid himself $15M - $25M yearly to funnel money upwards to the Board of Directors. (his salary amount was about equal to the yearly O&M funding of their entire Northern Hydro Division) ALL of these folks had less seniority than I did, being associated with the company an an average less than 10 years. The company itself has been around 110 years by that point. These were the same A _ _ holes that tried to sell off all their generation, their cheapest power, already paid for multiple times by the Ratepayer. One former CEO wistfully looked at us zeks during a mandatory all hands (paid audience) meeting and said "We need to be just like Enron...". So don't worry, YOU aren't the "high earner" in question. Standing around waiting for crumbs to fall from the emperors table isn't a good long term survival strategy. No contact magic is going to give you access to real money that you'd (horror of horrors!) then have to pay taxes on. NONE of the cognoscenti are paying the same percent of income as we do. A fleet of tax lawyers & accountants see to that. Where's YOUR fleet of folks protecting YOUR vast wealth? Same as mine, only shows up in the mirror?
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#26: I would agree that Musk with the electric cars seems to be a part of the problem as a subsidiary consumer. About the same as the Swedish Oligarchs running their Social Industry hiding behind some benevolent Organisations funneling money into their foundations. Consequently you won't find any jobs outside that political area that earn a living.
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There are always going to be arguments as to which is the better way to reduce crime and other social issues. One side thinks more police and jails will fix the problem and the other side thinks social welfare and free education and training is more effective.
Truth is probably money needs to be spent either way and a policy that sits in the middle and does a bit of both is the most effective.
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There are always going to be arguments as to which is the better way to reduce crime and other social issues. One side thinks more police and jails will fix the problem and the other side thinks social welfare and free education and training is more effective..
IMHO both is nonsense, booming economy is going to solve it. The only issue is why bother building it. ;)
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I was always interested as to why the "Commodities" system was abandoned. A family with 50 pounds of cheese, a 5 gallon tin of powdered milk, 100 pound sack each of rice & beans, maybe a tin of powdered eggs, that family will be able to eat if they have a hot plate or hibachi. Any extra money can be funneled to rent, clothes or transportation. Simply giving folks with limited financial acumen money and assuming they'll buy reasonable subsistence supplies seems doomed to fail. I see a lot of tattoos, touch-screen cell phones and vape hardware myself. I believe the commodities system didn't funnel enough money to the "convenience food" divisions of General Mills and lobbyists took care of the rest. A lot of useful warehouse & driving jobs were lost, and small farmers lost a steady source of direct basic income.
On the industrial welfare end, I'd really like to see the Bargaining Unit more involved with Management selection and retention in post. I've seen way too many Upgrades that within a few months choked off the parts supplies to the workers and cut back necessary overtime, primarily to pad their own year end bonus cheques, all to the long term degradation of the process equipment. Long Term degradation was paid for with "Capital" money, a different and lucrative process for the Company. Going further up the food chain, I don't like the practice of Upper Management NOT coming "up the ladder", so they have only a minimal grasp of their decision making on the entire process. Way too much short term "rape & pillage" going on in the USA.
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The issue is Muskie would be planting potatoes if we head actual money.
https://youtu.be/23NCVy04iV0
...all I need is some Uganda guy illuminate me how to build a plane. Wait a second,
where did I see this before?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacek_SD-1_Minisport
Guns, Germs and Steel. ;) - Jared Diamond. Great Book.
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What were you trying to say here?
"The issue is Muskie would be planting potatoes if we head(?) actual money."
Some oblique reference to this? https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CDOC-104sdoc17/pdf/CDOC-104sdoc17.pdf
The Uganda fellow was making an effort. Survivable or not remains to be seen.
For a 25-35 HP engine, maybe this might have been a better choice:
https://www.pietenpolaircraftcompany.com/
At least you have a better chance of exiting an open cockpit in a hurry if needs be.
These folks make some nice kits also:
https://fisherflying.com/
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What I mean is, that there is nothing I'm happier to see than Musk moving Tesla to Texas. Equally happy to see the Battery factories he is building around with a donation of our great government. I bet it's going to be a huge success. :)
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So-Long Musk? Making potato batteries in Texas?
I'm 'wit you in that there isn't an infinite market for $100K grocery getters.
I dunno why we can buy a $60K diesel Ford 15 MPG F3500 or Dodge equivalent, but can't buy a $15K diesel 60 MPG euro-spec econocar. If I can buy a 170 MPH motorcycle or motorhome with minimal seat belt / air bag requirements, a small fuel efficient car can't logical be a safety issue. All the major auto makers build them but they're not imported to the "home 'o free trade & competition" USA.
On a side note, the Dear Leader's crack Fox/OAN/NewsMax driven minion squad apparently just bombed an ATT building in Nashville because "5G" was going to mind control them. Seems like the first mind control communications stratagem might have been to send out a "don't bomb the telcom sites" memo, eh?
https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/nashville-mayor-believes-explosion-targeted-att-building/
Nashville’s mayor said Sunday that the city’s Christmas blast appeared to be an “infrastructure attack” on the AT&T building there — amid reports the suspect was paranoid about 5G networks spying on Americans.
The possible suicide bombing occurred near the local AT&T building, wreaking havoc on service in several Southern states, while also wiping out a number of locally owned businesses in the historic downtown area with the explosives-laden RV.
“The truck was parked adjacent to this large, historic AT&T facility, which happens to be in downtown Nashville, somewhat surprisingly,” Nashville Mayor John Cooper told CBS News’ “Face the Nation.”
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What I mean is, that there is nothing I'm happier to see than Musk moving Tesla to Texas. Equally happy to see the Battery factories he is building around with a donation of our great government. I bet it's going to be a huge success. :)
Meanwhile the guy that owns Oracle has moved from Silicon Valley to a private island in the state of Hawaii.
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Meanwhile the guy that owns Oracle has moved from Silicon Valley to a private island in the state of Hawaii.
Seems like that vision of Klaus Schwab is happening: "You will own nothing and you'll be happy about it." Glad I don't own anything except of my RE, otherwise I would need to be moving all the time. ;D
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You guys are late - Ellison bought Lanai in 2012, Eight years ago. I'm sure $600 million in island has some property tax associated with it, so not quite nothing. This is just one of several homes the uber class cycle between. Meanwhile Derottone is apparently living out of a day-pack and tarp bungeed to his 535... :o Obviously the Cognoscenti are still excessively taxed.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/lookout/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-buys-hawaiian-island-lanai-162214094.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANJxdGyte1pLNg5R6TKYUep3sCbpnzMXgPGSbL4dCnaME3sOsh551_v_otDV8gbNCR9znd-Dkv1B7NdLlYXyMwLl-lrMr_9HvhYfqcU0jF7p_me-3hZcxLg2Kg4wUDgUjeJizWtvdxXAKfEBKDHI1xxfJ-OTKNwmG6Ouu5AMRQU4
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You guys are late - Ellison bought Lanai in 2012, Eight years ago. I'm sure $600 million in island has some property tax associated with it, so not quite nothing. This is just one of several homes the uber class cycle between. Meanwhile Derottone is apparently living out of a day-pack and tarp bungeed to his 535... :o Obviously the Cognoscenti are still excessively taxed.
...I lived in Sweden in between of anthroposophs and ridiculous window cleaning companies run by nordic commie overlords married to can't have enough agressive gretas they all thought I somehow owe them something. ;D
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So you're STILL paying these taxes...? ???
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I live in California. I and many of my contemporaries made out quite well with careers and investments in real estate. Some of us are back in California after moving to various other states to retire. Apparently, Maine, Montana, Colorado and even Idaho have drawbacks! Who knew?
In Maine I worked construction on a Victorian house using lead paint after joining cedar rain gutters with sheet lead. Yes, my hands were dull gray at day's end. Lifting float docks in winter involved an unlicensed 1950s boom truck that rained hydraulic fluid into the wind. Another job site was a commercial building where money was saved by omitting roof braces. It was easy to do since no inspections ever happened. Mandated inspections could have saved a nearby family who perished when fire broke out in their connected mobile homes with a single exit. I was chastised by my boss for using a table saw guard. He pointed at me with the stub of his former index finger and got mad when I laughed.
The other repatriated Californians I know have similar tales. The grass IS greener elsewhere but I prefer pho and empanadas.
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So you're STILL paying these taxes...? ???
....planning to become a government employee to make sure no Greta can ever enter this country. ;)
....and if than only with a horse carriage or roof top solar cell powered vehicle, only cole generated electricity here.
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@ Stanley, #40: Right on brother. People building death traps and poisoning the ground they live on while avoiding the overbearing scrutiny of "Big 'Gummint". Run wild & free until there's nowhere left to go, right? THEN things get really sticky. Health care consisting of "Crawl away under a bush and heal up or die." I've worked with these guys for years - "get all there is to get & move on.". That strategy of existence only really works at the Stone Age tech level with about 1,000 square miles per person. - ACR -
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/cuyahoga-river-caught-fire-least-dozen-times-no-one-cared-until-1969-180972444/
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I live in California. I and many of my contemporaries made out quite well with careers and investments in real estate. Some of us are back in California after moving to various other states to retire. Apparently, Maine, Montana, Colorado and even Idaho have drawbacks! Who knew?
In Maine I worked construction on a Victorian house using lead paint after joining cedar rain gutters with sheet lead. Yes, my hands were dull gray at day's end. Lifting float docks in winter involved an unlicensed 1950s boom truck that rained hydraulic fluid into the wind. Another job site was a commercial building where money was saved by omitting roof braces. It was easy to do since no inspections ever happened. Mandated inspections could have saved a nearby family who perished when fire broke out in their connected mobile homes with a single exit. I was chastised by my boss for using a table saw guard. He pointed at me with the stub of his former index finger and got mad when I laughed.
The other repatriated Californians I know have similar tales. The grass IS greener elsewhere but I prefer pho and empanadas.
That's why they're called Mainiacs up there. Maine is a lot looser than much of New England. In our truck shop in CT among other things we had to remove the regulators from our oxy-act tanks every night in case the tank fell over, smashed the regulator and started a fire. The fact that the tanks were chained to a wall didn't seem to matter. If you got caught bypassing a machine guard it could lead to your being fired. FWIW that was at Connecticut Light and Power (now Eversource) so we were a prime target for OSHA inspectors that needed to put a notch in their belt. I'm not saying safety devices and protocols aren't a good thing, But I am saying that all the OSHA mandated crap in the world is no substitute for common sense, and that in many cases government mandated safety devices are just so much bull shit that add cost and complication without solving the real problem. I mean seriously, if you pick up a running lawn mower by it's deck and lose your fingers, it says a lot more about your intelligence (or lack thereof) than it does about the design of the mower.
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@ #41: Couldn't quite make out the message there. Are you planning on working for the US 'Gummint? Which Euro Commie state do you presently live in? I've seen England & Ireland & France; Unless you move to Texas you are just treading water. Get over 'heah wit the real cowboys where you can run free a bit! Get that 535 up in the bed of an F350 and head to Sturgis!
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"Ya needs ta be 10% smarter than the equipment you operate..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpf_rhdV4XA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YALuzXO-Dkc
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zimmemr @ # 43: Government regs are primarily lobbyist driven. The Power Biz makes money spending capital. They discovered that if they had to spend money to comply, it could come from Capital. Guaranteed 10.5% RoR for my old Utility. Coincidentally these rules by-and-large reduce liability risk for them also, as injuries from non-compliance gets them off the hook. My favorite scam of the Company was procedure writing. Exact rules of operation/maintenance activities that were written in stone but not updated as hardware & conditions changed. In theory a new-hire just had to read the procedures to successfully complete any task. Never did see any procedures for Management though...
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"Ya needs ta be 10% smarter than the equipment you operate..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpf_rhdV4XA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YALuzXO-Dkc
Holy crap! That's hard to watch. Connecticut Light and Power was very safety oriented. We discussed safety before every job and every man in the crew had the ability to shut the job down instantly if he thought there was a problem. Furthermore every man knew what he needed to do, in what order and when, He also knew what PPE to wear. Guys still took short cuts, a good friend and an outstanding lineman went up one day to secure a primary wire that had fallen off it's insulator. He got in the bucket wearing a T shirt, a hard hat and leather gloves. As he grabbed the cable his left shoulder made contact with a live conductor. The initial surge blew his thumb off, and torched his left arm, which was amputated the next day. At his hearing he was asked what in his opinion caused the accident. He said and I quote " I got stupid."
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zimmemr @ # 43: Government regs are primarily lobbyist driven. The Power Biz makes money spending capital. They discovered that if they had to spend money to comply, it could come from Capital. Guaranteed 10.5% RoR for my old Utility. Coincidentally these rules by-and-large reduce liability risk for them also, as injuries from non-compliance gets them off the hook. My favorite scam of the Company was procedure writing. Exact rules of operation/maintenance activities that were written in stone but not updated as hardware & conditions changed. In theory a new-hire just had to read the procedures to successfully complete any task. Never did see any procedures for Management though...
Our thinking in the trenches was that no matter what the rhetoric ALL safety initiatives were driven by the company's fear of liability. Despite their protests to the contrary all they really cared about was not being forced to pay out millions if someone got hurt. And yeah, I never saw any handbook for suits either. That being said I spent 32 years on the job and while I didn't love every minute of it, I did enjoy it, and there's a lot about it I miss now that I'm retired.
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I really enjoyed working someplace where everyone knew how to read & write and was willing to show up everyday like it was important. Like everywhere else though, there are always a few clowns that can't quite make the conceptual leap connecting "recreational drug use" and "steady paycheck". We were always glad to see them go. The last thing you need is someone a "little foggy" running the gantry crane or deciphering an electrical schematic to a live circuit. Power generation was the most fun, the equipment had the most variety, and it was great working and learning from the old timers. Hydro was amazing - the generation equipment vintage spanned from 1910 to 2020. We even had some carbon tetrachloride filled arc extinguishing glass-bodied fuses still in service. And the protective relays - many looking to be right out of a museum and still fully functional!
https://saskmuseums.org/blog/entry/glass-grenade-style-fire-extinguisher-bombs-are-they-safe
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I wish I'd saved the photos my African friend sent me. He is a Capetown power plant engineer who discovered thieves had dug up all the grounding cables for the copper. They were almost a foot in diameter and were cut with an axe. A search for dead bodies was fruitless.
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Copper theft is very common, it was almost daily order in Sweden too around the 2010-2014 years. Churches were a primary target, both the swedish evangelical churches are run by robber barons anyway implying guilt to everyone with extreme psychological methods to get their hands on a bit of cash, the taxes and government support is not enough of course. Additionally to every church there is a bank attached pushing again with draconian methods credit on people, ought to be investigated.
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Here's something to refresh those old Svensk memories - get a bottle of Akvavit (aquavit ? akevitt ?) and settle in for an evening (or two) with a trip down memory lane! ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emigrants_(film) {Utvandrarna}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Land {Nybyggarna}
Copper theft gets really entertaining and rather Darwin Awardy when the crackheads switch to live conductors... :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIk4JsxAfHc
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad4_1484873755
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AzCal: We had five hydro's in our service area, I would only go there to service their power equipment but on one visit a work crew from GE was servicing one of the generators, we got to talking and he showed me the original build tag, the thing had been installed in 1917, and needed only minor maintenance work, that was probably around 1998 or so. Back then guys knew how to build stuff that lasted. A lot of the gauges and switches in those plants were original as well.
Sounds like we worked for the same outfit ;) No matter how our crew shaped up there was always one asshole that called in sick every Friday. Shirked overtime and storm duty, and just couldn't give you a decent days work. Normally we were expected to do about 6 hours of work in an 8.5 hour day. If everyone pulled their weight we could get everything done and be cleaned up in an easy 5 or so hours. When someone screwed off it meant the rest of us sweated it out for the full eight.
As to copper theft, early on the company let us keep all the scrap copper and iron. Once a year we'd sell it to the local scrap yard and have a "copper party." Then one of the higher ups figured out what the stuff was worth and we had to turn it in and the company sold it off. In some locations we had a huge problem with theft, at our work center someone broke in, Loaded a pick up truck with scrap and drove it through the fence. He got it stuck in a field where we found it the next day. We also had a couple of instances where guys tried to steal copper that was still energized. That always made the news in a big way, I recall one of the lucky ones lost both arms. The others, their stealing days ended right then and there.
It's also a huge problem in NYC, thieves there strip the flashing off roofs and from around the skylights in old buildings, every so often one falls through the roof and that's that. I'm surprised it's an issue in Sweden, I thought they'd eliminated all of that sort of thing ;) Glad to see old fashioned theft is still a thing over there.
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Here's something to refresh those old Svensk memories - get a bottle of Akvavit (aquavit ? akevitt ?) and settle in for an evening (or two) with a trip down memory lane! ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emigrants_(film) {Utvandrarna}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Land {Nybyggarna}
Copper theft gets really entertaining and rather Darwin Awardy when the crackheads switch to live conductors... :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIk4JsxAfHc
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad4_1484873755
Holy shit it looks like the lineman, and I use the term loosely, is using a wooden hot stick, and doesn't seem to be wearing much PPE.
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Blink reeel fast & turn your head. Works every time...
A sign seen in Jerome Arizona on a home made crane with exposed reduction gears by the operators' elbow, an open exhaust flathead V8 powering the monster and zero cab protection: "We hire only safe & conscientious workmen; If you don't consider yourself a safe & conscientious person, don't apply here." Management at it's finest...
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Here's something to refresh those old Svensk memories - get a bottle of Akvavit (aquavit ? akevitt ?) and settle in for an evening (or two) with a trip down memory lane! ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emigrants_(film) {Utvandrarna}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Land {Nybyggarna}
Copper theft gets really entertaining and rather Darwin Awardy when the crackheads switch to live conductors... :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIk4JsxAfHc
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad4_1484873755
...talking about Svensk memories. Anyone remembers this little robbery?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4stberga_helicopter_robbery
...only in sweden, beyond ridiculous. ::)
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Blink reeel fast & turn your head. Works every time...
A sign seen in Jerome Arizona on a home made crane with exposed reduction gears by the operators' elbow, an open exhaust flathead V8 powering the monster and zero cab protection: "We hire only safe & conscientious workmen; If you don't consider yourself a safe & conscientious person, don't apply here." Management at it's finest...
Gotta love it!. Among my other interests, I'm a member of CAMA the Connecticut Antique Machinery Club. You should see some of the stuff we have at our museum. One of my favorite pieces is a 1929 Bay City Crane, When you swing the boom to the left you have to duck as it passes right over your head. Forget to do it once and you'll never forget again. When I was a kid I oiled on a 1962 P&H, as long as you stayed in the seat it was safe, but every gear in the cab was fully exposed and there were a lot of them. The guy I replaced had lost his arm in one of them. When I greased the thing I made sure the operator was out of the cab and that I had the keys in my pocket.
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...talking about Svensk memories. Anyone remembers this little robbery?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4stberga_helicopter_robbery
...only in sweden, beyond ridiculous. ::)
You have to admire their initiative. That's about as a ballsy a heist as I've ever heard of.
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You have to admire their initiative. That's about as a ballsy a heist as I've ever heard of.
Too good to be true. I would say it's ballsy, if it was not so smelly immediately followed by the advertisement banner "don't use cash, use digital only" with a picture of Björn Ulvaeus bedside it.
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"Alexander Eriksson instead flew to the Canary Islands. He was met at the airport by a special operations unit of the Swedish police. "
Related 9PM News blurb >> "Eleven other criminals as well as several bystanders were turned away when they also tried to surrender...more film at 10PM..." << ;D ;D ;D
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...I would not trust anything that comes out of that place. Surprisingly they didn't use a battery powered helicopter made out of recycled cardboard.
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Serbian Goran Bojovic, a former BIA Red Beret, led the robbery. The Bell 206 Jet Ranger (aka OH-58 Kiowa) is most assuredly not from Sweden, isn't made out of Papier Mache, and was probably spec'd out by Goran from previous experience. The actual robbery went well, the getting away part not so much; a common crime problem not restricted to Sweden. Try the national dish of meatballs washed down with some Akvavit, serenaded with an evening of ABBA's finest tunes and you'll feel better in the morning
https://ingmar.app/blog/swedish-national-dish-meatballs/
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/top-10-foods-try-sweden
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Intelligence_Agency
The BIA is a national intelligence agency of Serbia. The agency is responsible for collecting, reporting and disseminating intelligence, and conducting counter-intelligence in the interest of Serbia's national security.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_206
Serbian Interior Minister Ivica Dačić claims that former members of the BIA Red Berets took part in the robbery. One month prior to the robbery, the Swedish embassy was allegedly given "certain information about a criminal group which was preparing a robbery" by Serbian police. One out of seven sentenced men were from Serbia.[8]
Swedish police quickly identified and arrested the suspects. Two days after the robbery, Safa Kadhum flew to Dominican Republic where he was arrested by local law enforcement on Swedish government's request. Swedish police immediately chartered a private plane to bring him back to Sweden. Alexander Eriksson instead flew to the Canary Islands. He was met at the airport by a special operations unit of the Swedish police. The police identified Goran Bojovic as the one who led the robbery. [9]
More fun from the "KDKB Master Criminal of the Week!" files.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqNVmuTeRcI
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A paper mache helicopter would have had a better public impact. The chinese Aquavit and horse meet made köttbullar are unlikely to find a place on my table ever. I'm not inclined to sponsor Gretas new villa, ever. Greta go to work!
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Say Whaaat? :o
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Say Whaaat? :o
Greta could bake a cake and invite her friends for a coffe party. Ohhh, can't do that, in commie parasitistan they would make fun of her how stupid she is doing actual work. Or accuse her of being greedy because she didn't serve champagne with caviar. ::)
I guess she will have to come up with another theory why the world is coming to an end.
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Here's a theory for you that doesn't depend on demonizing anyone or anyplace in particular:
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
World population now is about 7.8 billion. In 1920 total population was about 1.8 billion, so over a 400% growth the last 100 years. Things really took off after 1800. Before that it took 900 years to increase 400% from an estimated 250 million in 900 AD to 1 billion in 1800 AD.
There was a lot more arable land available in 1800 for those 1 billion. The land area of Earth is still about 57 million square miles, 29% of the total surface area.
In 1920 total population was about 1.8 billion and there was more arable or potentially arable land available. Currently at 7.8 billion that yields an "average" of about 137 people per square mile. Unfortunately only about 12 million is farmable, so each square mile of farmland supports about 650 people and puts the rest of us up to about 170 per square mile.
Unless there is some ultimate illegal-aliens-from-outer-space-issued "prize" for exponential population expansion into a finite resource area, maybe some thought should be given to that prickly issue? Instead of banging on about "Gretas" & "evil Sweden" taking away your Keurig, maybe that time might be more productively spent encouraging those folks at Planned Parenthood. (https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ )
“There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy” Alfred Henry Lewis (1855-1914)
What is the predictable outcome of billions of people fighting over the last scraps of resources left? Do you remotely think that "Greta" would have garnered an audience any sort of audience in 1800, when folks could see with their own eyes limitless natural resources and plentiful empty space?
Very well documented indeed is what happens in uncontrolled population expansion scenarios, that the "carrying capacity" of the "range" is permanently & significantly degraded by the expansion & crash cycle. This is in reference to biological time of course, not geological time, which isn't of much use to an existing species.
China had a "One-Child" policy and had to replace it with the "Two-Child" policy to counter threats from population growth from adjacent Islamic nations. Going to war with a geriatric army against a bunch of 16 year old's didn't appeal to them. Had these same nations had a lower birth rate, China could have continued on it's original strategy towards a stable population of 700 million. With a land area of 3.7 million square miles, that would have put them at about 190/ sq.mi.; presently they're at about 350 with a population of 1.3 billion.
Greta & Sweden aren't the problem here. We need to apply our brains to our continued survival and start to behave like we're sentients, not ground squirrels or deer. Not filling up the oceans with plastic bags which results in killing off everything big enough to swallow them is a good start. Or we could just go on inutility excoriating a 17 year old that happens to be the current focus of media attention.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/09/09/where-and-why-the-median-age-for-muslims-is-so-low/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-child_policy#:~:text=The%20new%20policy%20allowing%20Chinese,effective%20from%201%20January%202016.
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-biology/chapter/environmental-limits-to-population-growth/#:~:text=When%20the%20population%20size%2C%20N,shaped%20growth%20curve%20is%20produced.&text=In%20logistic%20growth%2C%20population%20expansion,in%20an%20S%2Dshaped%20curve.
https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/a/Arable_land.htm#:~:text=Of%20the%20earth's%2057%20million,38%2C610%20square%20miles)%20per%20year.
"Of the earth's 57 million square miles (148,000,000 km²) of land, approximately 12 million square miles (31,000,000 km²) are arable; however, arable land is being lost at the rate of over 100,000 km² (38,610 square miles) per year."
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/
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Wow, sounds great, planned parenthood. Can't get any better, send me the concubines.
Can someone shoot this Malthus, what exactly is scares the cash on Bill Gatses account? I'm not at all inclined to spend my life disproving these theories by the way. There is no point, what Greta says is a scientific fact so why bother. ;)
Consequently a typical Swedish company is run by the genetically privileged. HA-HA
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"I'm not at all inclined to spend my life disproving these theories by the way."
So all this "Greta" & "Sweden" drivel we are incessantly bombarded with is what exactly, pointless self-entertainment? No provable basis for any of it? Don't care enough about the other forum members to actually do the work and support your positions?
Your tech-related stuff is great; incisive & informative. I really look forward to it. Why you constantly wander off into the Sweden & Greta filled weeds is a mystery. That stuff isn't anything like your tech writing. We all have demons, most of us leave them behind with the "delete" key.
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So how does one person disprove a theory that some billionaires club spend endless amounts of cash to develop and propagate into the world?
It's not up to me to prove or disprove anything. The FFF crowd is considering to put particles in the atmosphere. I live under the the atmosphere too, I never had an issue with diesel particles neither with the climate. Now I don't want any artificial particles in the atmosphere, simple.
https://www.cnet.com/videos/how-putting-particles-in-the-stratosphere-might-just-slow-global-warming/
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Or just wait for the super volcano building up under
Jellystone Yellowstone Park to do its thing?
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Or just wait for the super volcano building up under Jellystone Yellowstone Park to do its thing?
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Or for the comet striking? Alternatively you could go on and organise the whole thing, a very important page to you in the history books would be granted. ;)
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You don't have to "disprove" anything. You need to look at the proven known science and draw logical conclusions. Just like you already do so well when you diagnose mechanical of electrical issues, you don't set out to reformulate metallurgy or re-theorize magnetic theory. Take the best, repeatable, proven-by-multiple-source data you can get and do the best you can to get useful results. Use the tools you already have to get useful results.
"Now I don't want any artificial particles in the atmosphere, simple." As AdrianII pointed out, volcanic eruptions (not remotely under our jurisdiction) release tremendous quantities of sulfur & sulfur compounds when they erupt. Historical data show a clear correlation between eruptions and global-scale cooling. There's also zero way to match those vast quantities of materials. As far as "artificial particles", remember the "ozone hole"? The one that began to heal when fluorocarbon refrigerant releases were reduced? It's still an ongoing process, but we all don't need "Sunblock 60" yet, so maybe a small success. Science is a tool. It can be used for good or evil, it's still just a tool. Ignoring science doesn't make it wrong, it just blocks you from using it well.
A comet strike? Like this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event#:~:text=in%20mid%2Dair.-,Asteroid%20or%20comet%3F,atmosphere%2C%20leaving%20no%20obvious%20traces.
Asteroid or comet?
In 1930, the British astronomer F. J. W. Whipple suggested that the Tunguska body was a small comet. A comet is composed of dust and volatiles, such as water ice and frozen gases, and could have been completely vaporised by the impact with Earth's atmosphere, leaving no obvious traces. The comet hypothesis was further supported by the glowing skies (or "skyglows" or "bright nights") observed across Eurasia for several evenings after the impact, which are possibly explained by dust and ice that had been dispersed from the comet's tail across the upper atmosphere.[39] The cometary hypothesis gained a general acceptance among Soviet Tunguska investigators by the 1960s.[39]
Again, take what you know and see what best fits the data. "Use what you know to figure out what you don't know".
Paranoia is useful but has its limits: "Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead." Ben Franklin
Vast world wide conspiracies are a very tough slog. Occam's razor cuts to the truth more often than not.
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The proven known science is that climate change has very little to do with human activity. All the evidence exists, nobody wants to hear it neither see it. What else?
Why are you talking about conspiracies? There is no conspiracy, it's a collective delusion.
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The only reason to make the absurd statement that human activity has no effect on Earths climate is to entertain yourself.
It is pretty self evident that deforestation, i.e. albedo changes (thermal reflectivity), atmospheric gas changes, etc. all impact climate.
At #66 & #72 points were presented regarding human impact and the utility of applying what is known & can be proven.
Cretaceous CO2 levels were nearly 1000 PPM. Presently they are about 410 PPM, up in about 150 years from a relatively steady state 270 or so of the last 1000 or more years. The Cretaceous world was ice free, and forests extended to the poles. There was less available dry land. From #66, the implications of that are grim for people. A smart guy would try to get ahead of that end if he could. Maybe yes, maybe no, but without trying the end result is predictable.
Earths climate also has solar, geologic and probably interstellar components. The ones we can affect through our actions are land albedo and CO2 from our activities. A survivable environment is another thing we can affect, which is related to but not exactly the same as climate.
"Why are you talking about conspiracies? There is no conspiracy, it's a collective delusion."
Really? This from a guy constantly banging on about "Greta" and her "Swedish Overlords" and their dark designs for us? We have real world issues that are not going to be resolved by ignoring them and doing nothing. That's not entirely true though, as doing nothing is also a choice. If you are "all good" with the probable outcome of inaction, you're already there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous
The Cretaceous ( /krɪˈteɪ.ʃəs/, krih-TAY-shəs)[1] is a geological period that lasted from about 145 to 66 million years ago (mya). It is the third and final period of the Mesozoic Era, as well as the longest. At nearly 80 million years, it is the longest geological period of the entire Phanerozoic. The name is derived from the Latin creta, 'chalk', which is abundant in the latter half of the period. It is usually abbreviated K, for its German translation Kreide. The Cretaceous was a period with a relatively warm climate, resulting in high eustatic sea levels that created numerous shallow inland seas. These oceans and seas were populated with now-extinct marine reptiles, ammonites and rudists, while dinosaurs continued to dominate on land. The world was ice free, and forests extended to the poles. During this time, new groups of mammals and birds appeared. During the Early Cretaceous, flowering plants appeared and began to rapidly diversify, becoming the dominant group of plants across the Earth by the end of the Cretaceous, co-incident with the decline and extinction of previously widespread gymnosperm groups.
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We have real world issues that are not going to be resolved by ignoring them and doing nothing. That's not entirely true though, as doing nothing is also a choice. If you are "all good" with the probable outcome of inaction, you're already there.
Action or inaction is a matter of economics. What are the real issues, how would you want to solve them and how would you want to pay for it if there is no economy?
I've spent a decade under Gretas yelling for action, nothing is going to be ever enough, nothing is going to be ever able to be sold and made money with. Risk and work for you, safety and profits for them. And I mean 100% safety, do your work as we command and drop death. There is nothing to discuss, there is nothing to do with this crowd.
Na zdrovije, get yourself a gun!
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The U.S. Speaker of the House, Nancy Palosai (pardon the mangling of her last name), had her private home in San Francisco tagged by graffiti a couple of days ago. The message was: "We want it all". (The graffiti didn't say anything about wanting to pay for it all, though.) ::)
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@ # 75: I guess we all know where you'll be the evening of 06 Jan 2021...
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@ # 76: more info on those "bicameral" taggings - ;D
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55518151
Vandals in the US have attacked the homes of the leaders of the two houses of Congress on the eve of a new session and the swearing-in of lawmakers.
Police said fake blood and a pig's head were left outside the California home of Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Speaker of the House of Representatives.
In Kentucky, graffiti was scrawled on the house of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican. (i.e. Where's MY F _ _ _ 'in Money )
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@ # 75: I guess we all know where you'll be the evening of 06 Jan 2021...
.....and where should I be? Do you refer to this maybe?
https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/12/19/donald-trump-says-wild-protest-scheduled-for-january-6-2021-in-dc/
In that case I have to disappoint you, I don't care. ;)
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"Na zdrovije, get yourself a gun!" doesn't sound too disinterested to me. Some may misconstrue as proactive even. Or was this a "Sound & Fury" Faulkner moment?
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"Na zdrovije, get yourself a gun!" doesn't sound too disinterested to me. Some may misconstrue as proactive even. Or was this a "Sound & Fury" Faulkner moment?
Nope, absolutely not. I'm serious when I'm saying there is no way of dealing with the UBER's.
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Que son las "UBERs"??
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Que son las "UBERs"??
....very good people! Saviour of us all, suffering some kind of Robin Hood syndrome maybe.
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Sounds like you're referencing the phrase "Uber Gutmensch": literally "about good man". The actual usage is a bit dark. I can see why you wouldn't offer to define it.
Wikipedia has a nice write up as "gutmensch", and the always reliable Twitter has a whole army using "#UbergutMensch".
I hope I'm in the weeds on this - Please enlighten me if I am.
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You know, I exactly need a thousand academics explaining me why wearing a quartz watch in the sauna is not good for the battery in it. ::)
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You know, I exactly need a thousand academics explaining me why wearing a quartz watch in the sauna is not good for the battery in it. ::)
Here is a interesting file. The EU is targeting conspiracy theories in Sweden, what the EU doesn't get is that the harder they "target" the conspiracy theories the more people will clinch on to it. Targeting conspiracy theories is a conspiracy in itself. Surprisingly I've never heard anyone talking about the moon landing being a conspiracy other than those "targeting" conspiracy theories. I've heard about the chemtrails before but always thought it's bullshit until a couple of days before while reading Bill Gates is investing into a research to put particles into the stratosphere. So there could be something to it, right? Or maybe the conspiracy theory inspired the research? Who could possibly know. You would need to effectively outlaw all communication to "target" the spread of conspiracy theories? or Ideas? or what exactly is a conspiracy theory and who owns the truth? The EU?
Tell me the truth and I tell you who you are?
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Who needs conspiracy theories when stuff like this actually exists?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding ( back in 1891 !! )
"truth" is repeatable, observable, verifiable fact. Facebook & Twitter are not repositories of "truth".
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Some very old-fashioned Swedish activity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBX5qh09OIE
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Some very old-fashioned Swedish activity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBX5qh09OIE
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If I've watched one of these, I've watched 100. And I mean "the one man building it ALL" type. They are just incredibly impressive. I've also watched 1,000 others of people doing it on their own. You have to have done at least some work of that kind to really appreciate the work involved.
I heated a whole house exclusively with a Fisher wood stove for 12 years in the '70s and the wood was cut and hauled and cut again and split all by me from our own woodlot. Also bought and hauled the stove (600#) home, got it in the house, installed it and managed not to start a chimney fire that whole 12 year time. I was also in the volunteer fire department and idiots were burning down their own houses with wood stoves at about one a week in the '70s while clutching their Whole Earth Catalogs to the breasts and muttering "What happened? What happened"?.
That stove was then used by my daughter for another 5 years until the ex-wife sold the house and property. It then got moved to her new boyfriend's work shop and is probably still there.
Anyway. All I mean is, I appreciate the work and skill involved.
I like the Swedish or Norwegian cabin builders best. What those people can do (many of them old men) with wood is amazing.
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I like the Swedish or Norwegian cabin builders best. What those people can do (many of them old men) with wood is amazing.
...old man. ;D ...Gretas Generation and the flower power crackpots can't ignite a barbecue grill, yet they are great leaders and commanders. ::) ;D ;D ;D
And hell ya, it sure is fun to build one of these so it turnes into private property of some yelling Marlena.
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Is this a Prozac moment? ;D ;D ;D
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And hell ya, it sure is fun to build one of these so it turnes into private property of some yelling Marlena.
Yup, that's the problem now; they've all grown too close together now. Used to be so that very few could even HEAR Marlena. You gotta go further and further away nowadays to be further and further away.
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Is this a Prozac moment? ;D ;D ;D
I think they take something else in Sweden, I don't remember what....the diversity is very large. ;)
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Possibly Sarpa salpa, a species of bream, strömming or maybe aged Lutefisk? :o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyoallyeinotoxism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutefisk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming
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The Russians have become great entrepreneurs by the way. Once Gretas are finished with the "fossil fuel" economy they have the solutions already available. Brehmen, Hamburg, Amsterdam, Oslo, Stockholm....just park it in the harbour. ;)
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russias-floating-nuclear-plant-heads-for-the-arctic-amid-geopolitical-and-environmental-concerns
Or do you think Bill Gates will build some? That would cost money..
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Good idea. Article was from May 22, 2018. The Akademik Lomonosov became operational 19 Dec 2019. A 70 MW RosAtom combined heat & power plant. These are PWR's. Nothing to burn like the RBMK's, self contained loops. Ship to shore power cabling has been perfected since the 1940's.
Nov2018 article: Chinese Floating NPP: https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/chinas-planned-floating-nuclear-power-facilities-south-china-sea-technical-and
Jan 2020 Article: Russian & Chinese Floating NPP:https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a30731226/floating-nuclear-power-plants/
Dec 2020 Article: Russian & Danish Floating NPP:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/17/floating-mini-nukes-could-power-countries-by-2025-says-startup
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Here is another example of big government at work. As usual the example is from California: According to an article in my newspaper today, written by George Avalos of the Bay Area News Group, the state's Employment Development Department (EDD) says that $11 Billion of fraud has been sucked up by scammers and crime rings. And the cost could be as high as $30 Billion. The Federal pandemic unemployment relief money was sent to rings operating out of Nigeria, China and Russia (no mention was made of North Korea - so far ::) ) that unleashed a wave of fraud that focused on California's unemployment benefits as their most tempting target. Apparently the department handed out the money as fast as they could without verifying who it was going to. The state has already acknowledged that it has paid about $400 million in the names of prison inmates. Easy come, easy go, I guess. >:(
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Why do you persist in posting unreferenced claims? Are we all supposed to just blindly agree with you that the "Gummint" is always bad/incompetent/screwing us over? It's not rocket science to copy the link and paste it into the message. Not doing so just says you aren't being forthcoming with the data. Things are usually less exciting when all the data is presented. EDD just failed to adequately perform its function in an emergency situation, but now steps are being taken to remediate that. The feedback-loop is working. "Easy come, easy go, I guess." is pretty dismissive. With even a cursory examination it looks like "big gummint'" does have some corrective measures in place & functioning; apparently they ARE at work. The "Hair On Fire" numbers reported are about a "whopping" 10% of all the claims processed by EDD during an emergency. The other 17%/$30B was just a CYA possibility by Julie Su. About 5% of that is just folks that didn't really understand the paperwork. I'm all good with opinions about motorcycles, but when you drag in politics and start flinging shade on the processes that we all have to live under without offering either documentation or solutions, that's not helpful.
Was this the article?
https://www.dailybreeze.com/2021/01/26/edd-call-center-woes-unemployment-backlog-fraud-audit-jobs-layoff/
Or This?
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/25/edd-27-of-california-unemployment-payments-could-be-fraudulent-state-says/
“Roughly 10% of the $114 billion in claims are confirmed fraudulent, another 17% are potentially fraudulent,” California Labor Secretary Julie Su said during a question-and-answer session regarding the EDD’s efforts to combat unemployment insurance fraud. If 27 percent of the claims are determined to be fraudulent, that would amount to more than $30 billion.
Crime rings operating out of Nigeria, China and Russia have unleashed a wave of fraud that has focused on California’s unemployment benefits as their most tempting target.
The state has already acknowledged that it has paid about $400 million in the names of prison inmates, and last month, federal prosecutors charged a former state labor agency worker, a prison inmate and a parolee in a scheme to defraud California’s scandal-scarred unemployment insurance system.
In October, the EDD launched a new identity verification technology called ID.me that the state government hopes will help turn the corner against fraudulent payments. Blake Hall, chief executive officer with ID.me, believes progress has been made.
“California was able to stop the bleeding and put a tourniquet on the fraud,” Hall said.
It’s not surprising that the crime rings picked California, whose economy is one of the world’s largest, as a target to exploit unemployment insurance payments.
“In California, it’s easier to hide in the crowd,” Hall said. “Organized crime is approaching this as a business process.”
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/01/26/edd-fraud-millions-may-have-to-repay-california-jobless-aid-auditor-says/
" On Monday, California Labor Secretary Julie Su estimated the state has paid $11.4 billion in fraudulent claims during the pandemic, representing 10% of the more than $114 billion in benefits paid since March. "
" The Employment Development Department has been under intense pressure by state lawmakers and the public to more quickly process benefits during the pandemic. The agency’s rush to do that, along with Congress approving a major expansion of benefits with few eligibility safeguards, have made the agency — and others like it in states across the country — an easy target for fraud. "
https://www.abc10.com/article/money/edd-prisoner-fraud/103-88847056-81d8-4264-8b48-c171add0b76f
25 Jan 2021 : District Attorneys holding EDD accountable after inmates receive unemployment benefits
" Two months after district attorneys from across California announced widespread unemployment fraud in prisons, the scope of the investigation continues to grow. "
And for Nationwide scams:
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2020/12/30/unemployment-fraud-how-international-scammers-took-36-b-us/3960263001/
How scammers siphoned $36B in fraudulent unemployment payments from US
" In a Zoom session with the camera turned off, Mayowa describes how he scoops up U.S. unemployment benefits fattened by COVID-19 relief, an international imposter attack that has contributed to at least $36 billion being siphoned away from out-of-work Americans. "
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It sounds like you said just what I said only with a lot more words. California's government is just inefficient and dysfunctional from my perspective as someone who has been living here for 76 years.
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" California's government is just inefficient and dysfunctional from my perspective as someone who has been living here for 76 years." That's a flat statement implying that nothing in government works or will improve.
I pointed out that the feedback loop here was working - the EDD is being looked at and will be fixed. It should improve over time. I also pointed out that the EDD failure rate was actually about 10%; this meant their "success rate was close to 90%.
Finding and fixing your mistakes isn't dysfunctional. A 90% success rate isn't inefficient. 9 out of 10 folks got what they needed in a time of high demand.
Can things be improved? Always. Assuming that they won't or can't isn't helpful or realistic. What would your solution be?
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I have been paying state and federal income taxes, which are based upon total income, for over 55 years. Right now I am paying about 13% of my gross income to the state of California each year and 25% of my income to the Federal government. Add to that 10% sales tax on everything I buy except for food and a few other items that are exempt from that tax. Then there are property taxes amounting to thousands of dollars each year, plus other taxes and fees tacked on to the yearly property tax, which include paying off bonds for four overlapping school districts, school district parcel taxes, storm water fees (used to be included in gas taxes), and then there are a long list of federal, state and local taxes and fees stuck on to all of my utility services, and yearly DMV registration fees amounting to hundreds of dollars for each vehicle, which include other fees "requested by your local county". Those are just the ones that I can think off off of the top of my head. I have no doubt there are many more fees and taxes that residents of this state pay all the time without even noticing.
California is said to have the heaviest total tax burden of any state in the union. Maybe not as high as Sweden, but I bet it is pretty close. So I feel justified in requesting that my tax money to be spent wisely and efficiently and not to be given away to criminals residing in jail, to Nigerian Princes ::), random Russian hackers and other scammers. The EDD has been having this problem for at least the past 6 months and every time they catch one scammer feeding at their trough, another one shows up. (The fact that they contracted with Bank of America to make the payouts doesn't seem to help matters much either.) They just don't seem to have a system to weed out people who don't deserve the pandemic handouts before they send out the money. The only people who really seem to be locked into the payment system and can't get out are the people who really need the money, but who don't seem to be as knowledgeable regarding how to navigate the EDD's application system as do criminals. What a mess! >:(
Another example of the state government inefficiency is that the last time I visited a DMV office to renew my license, which I have to do every 5 years, I had 90 days before my license expired after receiving the paperwork. I tried to get an appointment at six different DMV offices in my area and all were booked up past when my license expired. I finally found an office 45 miles away and got in there a couple of weeks before my license expired. Because I had an appointment, it only took an hour for me to finish having my license renewed (requiring an eye test, a written test and a new license photo), but there was a long line of people who did not have an appointment that stretched outside the building and wrapped around two sides of it waiting to get in. Things are supposed to have improved at the DMV lately. I sure hope so, but I have my doubts as they are having to deal with the Real ID problem, along with the pandemic, so I wouldn't be surprised if the motor vehicle offices get overwhelmed again once the pandemic finally ends. You would think that with the huge number of drivers in California that the DMV could think up a more efficient system to provide services. When I pass by DMV offices in other states I don't see any lines and the offices look pretty quiet to me. ???
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I see long lines at my DMV here too. I walk past them whenever I go to the desk for those who made appointments. Puzzling.
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@ # 101 by Richard230:
Very well composed arguments & observations - that's the R230 we all remember - A pleasure to read!
Only about 50 years of tax payment history myself. I miss Arizona's $35/yearly registration fees for older vehicles, the $200/yearly for liability insurance, etc., but I lived on a dirt road, there were no sidewalks, no sewer system (septic tanks), no natural gas service (propane only), no water service (private well only), no street lights, no traffic signals. Food & fuel costs were actually higher in the rural areas as everything is "imported". Local area roads were pretty rough except for the I40 from Needles to Kingman and the 95 to Las Vegas.
The population density is much less in Arizona than California also (7M vs. 40M), which generally means less waiting in lines (except for Social Security Check day twice a month at the grocery store). The Arizona DMV experience is better, depending on when you go. As a retiree you can usually schedule around the crowd. As most folks in our area were retirees, there were fewer school taxes but no shortage of mostly retired California & Washington geezers complaining about subsidizing "other peoples kids". I'm not sure who these folks thought paid school taxes when they were growing up.
Every where you choose to live there are pros & cons. Arizona infrastructure & social services are nowhere near what California has, except perhaps inside the cities of Phoenix & Tucson. At about 1/6th the population, we average about 15 square miles of state per person vs. 4 sq. mi. or so in California, so similar infrastructure would be very costly per capita.
I chose to retire here for the climate & location. I pay my "biggo box" of Property tax yearly for the privilege of squatting on my own acreage. I still don't have any infrastructure, but pay state & local taxes just like I do. Here I can grow a few fruit trees, battle gophers for my garden, watch the foothills change color seasonally, enjoy a parade of wildlife helping the gophers finish off the garden remnants, all at sane temperatures (105 is a real hot day here vs. 125 in the shade), and watch actual rainfall (maybe 20"-30" yearly vs. 2"), and still have enough brush between me and my neighbors that we don't see each other except at the local grocery store.
It's pretty easy to up stakes & move to a lower cost of living area, and Arizona is certainly full of expats. Houses are selling well right now, that'd finance a nice "casa grande" in a lot of other cheaper, less regulated places to live with lots left over. Life's too short to be miserable. If you aren't happy where you are, change it while you can. We need to spend our remaining time doing what makes us happy, not grinding our guts on stuff we can't really change in the time we have left.
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I sometimes fantasize about living out in the boondocks where there are actual seasons, real weather and neighbors who don't always stay inside their homes and ignore you and everyone else around them. But I lived here all of my life, my family lives just a 60-minute ride away and the weather is perfect for riding a motorcycle almost every day, even during the winter. But then I do have to put up with crowds, highway congestion, high taxes, a large homeless population (some just down on the luck and others drug addicts or just plain nuts) and a politically-correct social environment that I just don't understand. (The San Francisco School District just passed a requirement demanding that 42 schools in the city be renamed by April because they discovered that the historical people that they were named after did things that would not be socially acceptable in SF nowadays. ???) I appear to be stuck in a self-made rut that I just can't bring myself to leave.
I might add that it is mind boggling how much ticky-tacky boxy home prices on 5000 sf lots are here now, too. My home sold in 1971 for $35K and homes in my area are now going for $1.3-1.5 million. How can anyone possibly afford those kind of prices? But they do. Homes rarely stay on the market more than a couple of weeks around here. ???
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There's a reason lots of folks end up in Green Valley Az or in New Mexico. The GV folks get lots of tropical adjacent weather and are close to Algodones, gateway to thrifty medical supplies. A couple months in a borrowed motorhome might be instructive. About 9 months a year of good weather, then go visit your kids/relatives/friends in Washington in Juiy, August & September. ;D
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California's residents have come up with a plan to defeat the pandemic in his state. They have threatened to recall the Governor, who suddenly started to allow the opening of schools, sports and various other activities that had been restricted until it looked like the recall attempt had assembled enough signatures to get it on the ballot later this year. Nothing can get a politician to move fast like fear of loosing their job. ::)
Still, you really can't beat Texas's Governor. He really knows how to move fast when it comes to defeating the pandemic. News reports today say that he has removed all pandemic restrictions and regulations in the state. And he didn't even do that under the thread of a recall. Time to head for the bars and grab those big mugs of draft Budweiser, Coors and Black Label beer. ;D
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California's residents have come up with a plan to defeat the pandemic in his state. They have threatened to recall the Governor, who suddenly started to allow the opening of schools, sports and various other activities that had been restricted until it looked like the recall attempt had assembled enough signatures to get it on the ballot later this year. Nothing can get a politician to move fast like fear of loosing their job. ::)
Still, you really can't beat Texas's Governor. He really knows how to move fast when it comes to defeating the pandemic. News reports today say that he has removed all pandemic restrictions and regulations in the state. And he didn't even do that under the thread of a recall. Time to head for the bars and grab those big mugs of draft Budweiser, Coors and Black Label beer. ;D
Texas sounds like a reasonable place....
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Wearing Masks too much effort? A'skeered of vaccination? Over 65? Overweight or have breathing issues? The ER is standing by. Maybe you'll get lucky.
This is Darwinian selection in action. Texas is a long way from Alemanni, bring lederhosen, SPF 60, a sombrero and join the unmasked antivaxxer crowd. Maybe Ted Cruz will clear the way for you.
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Wearing Masks too much effort? A'skeered of vaccination? Over 65? Overweight or have breathing issues? The ER is standing by. Maybe you'll get lucky.
This is Darwinian selection in action. Texas is a long way from Alemanni, bring lederhosen, SPF 60, a sombrero and join the unmasked antivaxxer crowd. Maybe Ted Cruz will clear the way for you.
Actually, not at all. I wear a mask all day long. However I am not allowed to wear a mask in the car because the fine people from the police would not be able to identify my face when they would want to send me a speeding ticket. So the solution is plain an simple -> Wear the mask in the car, and trow it in the bin during the day. ;)
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Texas sounds like a reasonable place....
Until you get your electric bill. It's an interesting place to visit, especially the Hill country, but live there? NFW.
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Until you get your electric bill. It's an interesting place to visit, especially the Hill country, but live there? NFW.
What´s wrong with the e-bill ? ....I think Texas sounds great, the Governor over there seems to be a real Statesman. I would elect him every day, it sounds however like Texas has the foot the bill for states with ridiculous energy policies like Kalifornia though.
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What´s wrong with the e-bill ? ....I think Texas sounds great, the Governor over there seems to be a real Statesman. I would elect him every day, it sounds however like Texas has the foot the bill for states with ridiculous energy policies like Kalifornia though.
They deregulated and cut themselves off from what passes as the national grid. During the recent outages the rates went through the roof, people that had been paying monthly bills of $160.00 or so got hit with bills for $6,000. As of last week the entire regulatory board has resigned, or maybe all but one, and the law suits are flying. The way the Texas grid is formulated nothing that happens anywhere else affects it. It's completely self contained, or 99% off it. California has it's own serious issues, and PSE&G will probably fall through it's own ass before next year, but it's problems don't have much to do with Texas.
AZCal has a much better grasp on the situation than I do, I'm about as far from Texas as you can get, and while we both worked in the industry, I was in T&D support, while he worked more with generation. Hopefully he can chime in and fill in the gaps.
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I also hear that Texas is still having problems with water delivery to their residents. The water system failed in some large areas during the big freeze and the pipes and pumps have still not been repaired. 2021 has been a tough year for the residents of
Texas. It will be interesting to see if Texas is considered a "super spreader" and anyone traveling from that state must be quarantined when they travel to states other than Missouri. ???
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I also hear that Texas is still having problems with water delivery to their residents. The water system failed in some large areas during the big freeze and the pipes and pumps have still not been repaired. 2021 has been a tough year for the residents of
Texas. It will be interesting to see if Texas is considered a "super spreader" and anyone traveling from that state must be quarantined when they travel to states other than Missouri. ???
I'd forgot that part. I know Connecticut asks people to self quarantine if they're coming from Texas, I'd assume NY and NJ do also, but wouldn't swear to it.
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Zimmemr - I think you summed it up well. The power production private companies funneled extra money to bonuses & dividends, to hell with the peons and their petty "reliability" needs.
I'm convinced Derottone needs to become a Texas resident. Open carry, laissez faire electricity, low taxes, no emissions compliance in the back country, he adores the Gummint' there, looks like a perfect match. TexMex & BBQ makes really good chow, lots of Lonestar to worsh it down with, redfish to catch in the Gulf, bass in the sloughs, African game farms for the ambitious. There is of course the language barrier, and summers may be a bit warmer than he's used to, but that's why we have AC and Google. Can't wait to see pitchers of thet there 535 with a biggo' nickel-plated hogleg strapped across the handlebars.
I'm waiting for the lawsuits to start from neighboring states when C19 outbreaks happen along the shared borders. We just got vaccines in real production and now have an actual injection plan, but we're not at 70% yet. The Israeli “green pass” vaccine passport tech will likely be driven here out of self preservation against places like Texas & Mississippi.
At some point the residents will tire of being Republican gaming pieces and push back. Texan's aren't going to like being run by proxy from Florida. Having a politically connected & supported "rape 'n pillage" private grid and unmaintained water infrastructure really gets folks where they live. They'll be extra mad when the "private" utilities float a publicly funded bond to repair the freeze damaged "private" infrastructure. Can we say "municipalization"?
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I read an article last week that said that Texas's utility problems will become much worse in the future. Unfortunately, I can't recall the details of why this will be. ???
In local news: I was out for a walk today and noticed one home with a large banner draped from their second story saying something like "Trump for 2024. Take back America again." :o
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Hmmm..."Make Amurrika Great Again Again"; remind me of who's been driving for the last four years?? Ya just gotta laugh... :o 8)
And then there's this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56342311
China and Russia have announced plans to build a lunar space station.
Russian space agency Roscosmos says it has signed an agreement with China's National Space Administration to develop research facilities on the surface of the moon, in orbit or both.
A statement from both countries' space agencies says it will be available for use by other nations.
It comes as Russia prepares to celebrate the 60th anniversary of its first-ever manned space flight.
The International Scientific Lunar Station will carry out a wide range of scientific research including exploration and utilisation of the moon, a statement from both agencies said.
"China and Russia will use their accumulated experience in space science, research and development and use of space equipment and space technology to jointly develop a road map for the construction of an international lunar scientific research station," the statement (in Mandarin) said.
It added that both Russia and China will collaborate in the planning, design, development and operation of the research station.
Chen Lan, an analyst who specialises in China's space programme, told AFP news agency that the project was a "big deal".
"This will be the largest international space cooperation project for China, so it's significant," he said.
China is a relatively late bloomer when it comes to the world of space exploration but last December its Chang'e-5 probe successfully brought back rock and "soil" it picked up from the moon. At the time it was seen as another demonstration of the country's increasing capability in space.
Russia, which pioneered space exploration, has been eclipsed by China and the United States in recent years. Last year it lost its monopoly on taking astronauts to the International Space station following SpaceX's successful launch.
The US has announced plans to return to the moon by 2024. The programme, called Artemis, will see a man and woman step on the lunar surface in what would be the first landing with humans since 1972.
Russia (CCCP) is still the only country to have ever landed a probe on Venus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera#The_Venera_probes
The moon definitely has military value, and possibly commercial value too if the talk about Helium 3 is true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress#:~:text=The%20Moon%20Is%20a%20Harsh%20Mistress%20is%20a%201966%20science,expresses%20and%20discusses%20libertarian%20ideals.
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Zimmemr - I think you summed it up well. The power production private companies funneled extra money to bonuses & dividends, to hell with the peons and their petty "reliability" needs.
I'm convinced Derottone needs to become a Texas resident. Open carry, laissez faire electricity, low taxes, no emissions compliance in the back country, he adores the Gummint' there, looks like a perfect match. TexMex & BBQ makes really good chow, lots of Lonestar to worsh it down with, redfish to catch in the Gulf, bass in the sloughs, African game farms for the ambitious. There is of course the language barrier, and summers may be a bit warmer than he's used to, but that's why we have AC and Google. Can't wait to see pitchers of thet there 535 with a biggo' nickel-plated hogleg strapped across the handlebars.
I'm waiting for the lawsuits to start from neighboring states when C19 outbreaks happen along the shared borders. We just got vaccines in real production and now have an actual injection plan, but we're not at 70% yet. The Israeli “green pass” vaccine passport tech will likely be driven here out of self preservation against places like Texas & Mississippi.
At some point the residents will tire of being Republican gaming pieces and push back. Texan's aren't going to like being run by proxy from Florida. Having a politically connected & supported "rape 'n pillage" private grid and unmaintained water infrastructure really gets folks where they live. They'll be extra mad when the "private" utilities float a publicly funded bond to repair the freeze damaged "private" infrastructure. Can we say "municipalization"?
It's hard to take Texas and their Republican administration seriously. Not only do they have an irresponsible and damn near unmanageable grid, and a water utility that looks like it was put together with Home Depot left overs, but when the shit hit the fan, the guys throwing the shit all left town. Including their fair haired senator. Say what you want about Cruz, when the going gets tough Ted got going. I can't believe they didn't ride his sorry ass out of town on a rail.
I think Derottone would love it down there, at least until he ran into a herd of German tourists at the Alamo.
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;D ....i can't know, I trust your judgments. Sounds like some typical issues of oil ritch countries.
What I hope though is that our politicos we won't need to see such economic desperation in order to declare victory over the virus.
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Virus? What virus? I don't see no stinking virus. No reason to mask up if there's no virus, right? It's all a Democrat hoax to suppress the sales of small businesses making coffins! As George Castanza said "It's not a lie if you believe it!".
As long as you are part of the 50% that aren't affected by C19, no problemo anyway, right? If you are affected, why are you inconveniently bothering others? The GOP wants you weaklings to politely crawl off under a bush and die. That's the "Invisible Hand of the Free market" in action I guess, or maybe the "Golden Rule: them what has the gold makes the rules". Cut back healthcare for the hoi polloi, that's just money wasted. Maybe they do vote, but when did they ever attend a $25,000 a plate fundraiser?
With an average 7 or 8 figure net worth and premium Government health care on tap, it's hard to see a virus problem from the GOP side of the House or Senate. Or from Miralago either, I suppose. All the while they're marching in lockstep towards a new Viertes Reich and pretending they aren't. Not one GOP Congressman voted for HR1, a bill with over 70% positive ratings among all voters, but several of these no-voters are extolling it's benefits to their constituents; now THAT's some cognitive dissonance!.
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Virus? What virus? I don't see no stinking virus. No reason to mask up if there's no virus, right? It's all a Democrat hoax to suppress the sales of small businesses making coffins! As George Castanza said "It's not a lie if you believe it!".
As long as you are part of the 50% that aren't affected by C19, no problemo anyway, right? If you are affected, why are you inconveniently bothering others? The GOP wants you weaklings to politely crawl off under a bush and die. That's the "Invisible Hand of the Free market" in action I guess, or maybe the "Golden Rule: them what has the gold makes the rules". Cut back healthcare for the hoi polloi, that's just money wasted. Maybe they do vote, but when did they ever attend a $25,000 a plate fundraiser?
With an average 7 or 8 figure net worth and premium Government health care on tap, it's hard to see a virus problem from the GOP side of the House or Senate. Or from Miralago either, I suppose. All the while they're marching in lockstep towards a new Viertes Reich and pretending they aren't. Not one GOP Congressman voted for HR1, a bill with over 70% positive ratings among all voters, but several of these no-voters are extolling it's benefits to their constituents; now THAT's some cognitive dissonance!.
That´s not the invisible hand of the market, that´s the invisible hand of the primitive worldview only gold = money bullshit promoters. Everything will collapse, ONLY gold will maintain value BS, sounds like right out of the mouth of the GLOBAL WARMING scammers = fossile free is the future BS. A little virus has to rule our lives BS. A thousend of engineers required to determine the torque on your cars wheel bolt BS.
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It's certainly the worldview that everyone outside "my core group" becomes a consumable resource, a fungible asset, not a person.
That viewpoint has led to lots of social upheaval when the outsiders come to realize they are "food" for the insiders.
Why can't we all just get along? :o
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It's certainly the worldview that everyone outside "my core group" becomes a consumable resource, a fungible asset, not a person.
That viewpoint has led to lots of social upheaval when the outsiders come to realize they are "food" for the insiders.
Why can't we all just get along? :o
I don´t know, I do understand though that if if you have the "gold" promoters on one side and the "global warming" promoters on the other and you work on something like a H2 plant than you are more likely to jump on the "global warming" bandwagon because they suggest that they care for alternative energy sources, which they don´t by the way. When you work in the car industry your motivation is most likely to provide customer satisfaction and hopefully make a buck, however what than happens is that they put a "global warming" lable onto it and claim it their victory. Like it reduces polution and CO2 which was never the motivation behind anything.
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The reason that 70% of the U.S. public supports the Democrats' free-money-for-almost-everyone law is that they will be receiving lots of free money without having to work for it. Who wouldn't support something like that? It is likely that once that cash is spent there will be another demand for even more free money. ::)
I have yet to hear a single politician, news commentator, or economist say how the $1.9 Trillion and last year's $.9 Trillion will be paid for. As I see it there are only three ways to pay that bill. You can borrow the money and pay it back later with interest. You can raise taxes to pay down the national debt. Or you can just print money, don't worry about paying it back and let someone else (such as that famous guy behind the tree) deal with inflation as the dollar looses value and prices rise in the future. Now I wonder which option will U.S. politicians of both parties choose? ;)
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The reason that 70% of the U.S. public supports the Democrats' free-money-for-almost-everyone law is that they will be receiving lots of free money without having to work for it. Who wouldn't support something like that? It is likely that once that cash is spent there will be another demand for even more free money. ::)
I have yet to hear a single politician, news commentator, or economist say how the $1.9 Trillion and last year's $.9 Trillion will be paid for. As I see it there are only three ways to pay that bill. You can borrow the money and pay it back later with interest. You can raise taxes to pay down the national debt. Or you can just print money, don't worry about paying it back and let someone else (such as that famous guy behind the tree) deal with inflation as the dollar looses value and prices rise in the future. Now I wonder which option will U.S. politicians of both parties choose? ;)
A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon we'll be talking real money. I recall reading an article about the British war effort and recovery during the WWII, and the need for post war austerity. The upshot was that in one year, I don't recall which, but 1949 rings a bell, the British deficit at the end of fiscal year was five pounds and the nation went nuts demanding it be zero. Would that we had that kind of will power here.
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R230 - the cost of the 2020 CARES act was $2.2 Trillion, not $0.9 Trillion.
Where was all of this fiscal angst when Trumps GOP minions were busy handing out free money to Corporate America?
The upcoming foreclosure avalanche will be some real fun. If the current Admin can forestall that bit of business, we won't have to relive 1929.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARES_Act
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R230 - the cost of the 2020 CARES act was $2.2 Trillion, not $0.9 Trillion.
Where was all of this fiscal angst when Trumps GOP minions were busy handing out free money to Corporate America?
The upcoming foreclosure avalanche will be some real fun. If the current Admin can forestall that bit of business, we won't have to relive 1929.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARES_Act
Well if you wan´t to exterminate half the population in a stalinistic manner under the pretence of global warming than it´s going to cost something obviously.
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" Well, if you want to exterminate half the population in a Stalinistic manner under the pretense of global warming, then it's going to cost something, obviously. "
Whaaat?
Quite the "non sequitur" there.
The "poor man's atom bomb" is accessible to any country with a Freshman College level biology programme. Distribution is assured by modern air travel.
We've just seen a dry run of a disease with maybe a 1% lethality. Look at the chaos. There are innumerable more possible pathogens, many with a 50% - 80% lethality.
Why would you possibly think that you'd have to spend 4 trillion dollars to do it? Maybe $500K for a lab & air fare and it'd done.
That's why the media focus is on nuclear weapon proliferation, don't want to worry folks about a very real but indefensible threat. How much threat really is a kiloton device with "Fed-Ex and a seatrain/connex" as a delivery system when you have thousands of megatons of ballistic weapons ready to respond? Even for North Korea the only real threat is from pissing off China if you shoot their junkyard dog.
And why would the folks with real money want to exterminate half the "minion" base anyway? Who'd clean up after them? Who'd be left to grub in the dirt for pennies a day to enrich them?
No Derottone, you don't need to spend 4 trillion dollars to achieve a 50% population reduction, and it would be very bad for business if you did. Rest assured no one at the top wants the party to end.
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I think you highly underestimating that venture, 4 trillion would not be enough in the age of information to get rid of all the evidence. It´s tough enough to sell the deadly virus, even tougher the "voluntary" counter messures.
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Get rid of the evidence? That's normally left in plain sight as a lesson to others. Anyway, you'd just need to convince a whacko 3rd party to initiate a population "runback", no need to do it your self. "Time, distance & shielding resolve a multitude of ills." Old nuke-submariner aphorism.
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Get rid of the evidence? That's normally left in plain sight as a lesson to others. Anyway, you'd just need to convince a whacko 3rd party to initiate a population "runback", no need to do it your self. "Time, distance & shielding resolve a multitude of ills." Old nuke-submariner aphorism.
:o ....when you sit in a car with 3 or 4 passengers and fart, who smells it first? ...you want to blow up a place, but you don't want to be accused of it so that you can take over the control, haven´t you learned anything about military strategy? ;D
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When I take over the world I'm going to appoint ACR as my minister of defense. Derottone will be in charge of propaganda, Together we'll rule the universe.
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When I take over the world I'm going to appoint ACR as my minister of defense. Derottone will be in charge of propaganda, Together we'll rule the universe.
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@ # 131: " you want to blow up a place, but you don't want to be accused of it so that you can take over the control, "
" you'd just need to convince a whacko 3rd party to initiate a population "runback", no need to do it your self. "
That's rather exactly what I said - let a 3rd party do the dirty work. No need to implicate yourself. For a double score, discover & eliminate the "perpetrator" yourself, winning the support of any survivors.
The beauty of bio-weapons is that they generally don't affect resources & infrastructure of the target/victim. That was the rationale behind the neutron bomb. The "Winner" just vaccinates, waits a month or so, then strolls in to claim the prize. Sun Tsu would be proud.
Zimmemr - no need for propaganda, as the victor gets to write the history, yes? Hopefully it won't be in Mandarin or Cantonese this time around...or Cyrillic.
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@ # 131: " you want to blow up a place, but you don't want to be accused of it so that you can take over the control, "
" you'd just need to convince a whacko 3rd party to initiate a population "runback", no need to do it your self. "
That's rather exactly what I said - let a 3rd party do the dirty work. No need to implicate yourself. For a double score, discover & eliminate the "perpetrator" yourself, winning the support of any survivors.
The beauty of bio-weapons is that they generally don't affect resources & infrastructure of the target/victim. That was the rationale behind the neutron bomb. The "Winner" just vaccinates, waits a month or so, then strolls in to claim the prize. Sun Tsu would be proud.
Zimmemr - no need for propaganda, as the victor gets to write the history, yes? Hopefully it won't be in Mandarin or Cantonese this time around...or Cyrillic.
As minister of defense you get to make the call. Sorry derottone, you're out, how about we make you the minister of truth. All kidding aside my feeling is the next time we'll be lucky if there's anyone left to write anything.
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Es verdad, senor.
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The barbarians that finally besieged rom didn't find much left, which suggests romanians did most of the work themselves. Now if you look at the humanitarian superpower of Sweden, everyone is a corruption fighter which is the reason nobody wants to do anything at all in that place because any buck that doesn't come directly as government hand out can be declared as corruption. Hell they can accuse you of doing black labour if you change a tire on your own car. There is absolutely no need for any barbarian invasion, it self-destructs. They invent routinely artificial enemies though to achieve little bit of unity. How about concentrating for one minute about what could be done and improved around you in the place you live instead, which is what supposedly Donald Trump ment when saying america first = taking care of your domestic issues and shit first before bothering with the next alien invasion from outer space. There was something wrong with that too of course as the hand out recievers all over the world immediately started to panic that they may have to move their arses, attacking anything productive and creative around them. And I don't mean the out of the job guy on benefits. Laughable, happy digging.
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@ # 131: " you want to blow up a place, but you don't want to be accused of it so that you can take over the control, "
" you'd just need to convince a whacko 3rd party to initiate a population "runback", no need to do it your self. "
That's rather exactly what I said - let a 3rd party do the dirty work. No need to implicate yourself. For a double score, discover & eliminate the "perpetrator" yourself, winning the support of any survivors.
The beauty of bio-weapons is that they generally don't affect resources & infrastructure of the target/victim. That was the rationale behind the neutron bomb. The "Winner" just vaccinates, waits a month or so, then strolls in to claim the prize. Sun Tsu would be proud.
Zimmemr - no need for propaganda, as the victor gets to write the history, yes? Hopefully it won't be in Mandarin or Cantonese this time around...or Cyrillic.
It won´t help you much because anyone aware would install a self-destructing routine to leave little behind.
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" supposedly Donald Trump ment when saying america first = taking care of your domestic issues "
You don't live in Sweden. You don't live in the USA. Trump never meant anything, he just wanted a pre-fab audience for another reality TV series and then accidentally won when millions of folks thought he was actually going to turn the clock back to 1950 for their benefit. He was the best Christmas present Xi Jinping and Putin ever had. Now we have internet bot-driven extremism and our Allies all think we're a nation of untrustworthy morons. The only America-firsting he did was in Covid-19 mortality. Almost 1/2 of the elected GOP regurgitates on command the idiotic litany that the election was stolen just to keep the minion army placated. I hope you know enough Russian to get by, you may need it soon if T90's & T14's start rolling south. NATO has a valid function for Germany as well as the USA.
" It won´t help you much because anyone aware would install a self-destructing routine to leave little behind. "
I assume you are referring to a Dr. Strangelove style "Doomsday Device"? Nobody does that outside of bad sci-fi movies. It would be an admission of failure. You are also conflating combat with warfare. The whole idea is to acquire resources. Stalin's scorched earth was strategic withdrawal. The neutron bomb and bio-warfare are for resource acquisition. Fissiles leave a traceable fingerprint to the developer as well as they are generally pretty obvious when being deployed, bio-weapons less so. Different tactical uses.
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Ah ja, ever since this corruption fighting other peoples property absorbing scum came around I'm only unlucky. What a coincidence, nobody needs that kind of partners, neither in the nato. That's true, I don't live in Sweden, neither are they at home here or anywhere else to do their shit there.
https://dfmp6mxm2h3d4nmvgapt7yc62y-adwhj77lcyoafdy-www-svt-se.translate.goog/nyheter/granskning/ug/ug-referens-the-scania-way
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...I'm waiting for the f×#'in envelopes, that went to the f#$€ers, cos I don't know what I'm doing. ;)
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...I'm waiting for the f×#'in envelopes, that went to the f#$€ers, cos I don't know what I'm doing. ;)
...bull, not even a coffee I would take from them, that would cost ethernal thankfulness.
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"You are about to enter another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop—The Twilight Zone."
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I am here and now. ;) ...I don't deal with shit heads.
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If you aren't living in Sweden, so you don't have to. Let it go - don't let them continue to control you. Move on. We would all like that.
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If you aren't living in Sweden, so you don't have to. Let it go - don't let them continue to control you. Move on. We would all like that.
They are granted my eternal thankfulness, I can't help it. ::)
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https://www.deccanherald.com/national/gadkari-denies-scania-bribery-allegations-960547.html
I tell you this is the story of our lifetime. Why don´t they put their own "fu"§$ing" chicken farms on fire. FxASDF "shit" heads. You could laugh your ass off.... just follow the story. ;D ;D ;D
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https://www.deccanherald.com/national/gadkari-denies-scania-bribery-allegations-960547.html
I tell you this is the story of our lifetime. Why don´t they put their own "fu"§$ing" chicken farms on fire. FxASDF "shit" heads. You could laugh your ass off.... just follow the story. ;D ;D ;D
What the hell, bribery makes the world go 'round. :o
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What the hell, bribery makes the world go 'round. :o
....but those fuckers expect thankfullness for free. ;)
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....but those fuckers expect thankfullness for free. ;)
They do but that's human nature for you. The same but different as gramps use to say. Just when I think I've seen the worst, the dumbest or most vicious of acts someone always comes along and does one better. People can surprise you with random acts of kindness, but more often they tend to revert their basest impulses. I have a low bar when it comes to human nature, I always expect the worst, and I'm hardly ever surprised. It sucks, but that's the way it is.
There are way to many Greta's in this world, but very few Shayna Texters and in my opinion, the world is the worse for it. ;)
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Shayna Texters? ...is who? ...I don´t want to have Gretas all over the planet. :o ;D ...I more of a family guy.
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Shayna Texters? ...is who? ...I don´t want to have Gretas all over the planet. :o ;D ...I more of a family guy.
Shayna Texter is the fastest women flat track racer to ever sit on a bike, she's the daughter and granddaughter of well known American racers, and the brother of Cory Texter, a very fast production twins racer. Shayna is also married to Briar Bauman the current AFT Pro Twins Dirt track champ.
Shayna rides for KTM and last weekend won both rounds of the Volusia Half Mile. She's about as far from a Greta as you can get.
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Shayna Texter is the fastest women flat track racer to ever sit on a bike, she's the daughter and granddaughter of well known American racers, and the brother of Cory Texter, a very fast production twins racer. Shayna is also married to Briar Bauman the current AFT Pro Twins Dirt track champ.
Shayna rides for KTM and last weekend won both rounds of the Volusia Half Mile. She's about as far from a Greta as you can get.
...maybe she should teach Greta how to ride a bike than. ::)
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...maybe she should teach Greta how to ride a bike than. ::)
If she does she will be chasing you on your speeding noisy and polluting RE Bullet while riding her new all-electric police scooter. Will you be able to get away from her and her ticket book? https://electricmotorcycles.news/niu-antwerpen-delivers-first-fleet-electric-scooters-for-brussels-hoofdstad-elsene-police/
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Ok, I agree. Send them both to a baking competition.
I should be able to get away from a 45km/h scooter though.
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I should be able to get away from a 45km/h scooter though.
Just ride further than 100km ;D
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...maybe she should teach Greta how to ride a bike than. ::)
I've known Shayna since she was six, trust me she could teach all the Greta's a lot of things they might find useful. She's sure taken some of the best dirt trackers in the world to school.
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Here is another story from California that I heard yesterday from one of my riding friends: My friend and his wife live in a beautiful home in the hills on the outskirts of the Greater Bay Area. They are looking to move nearer to the Bay where his daughter and her family live and have been checking out homes closer to San Francisco. Last week they were considering buying a home in El Cerrito, CA (a town just north of Oakland) which he said was not quite as nice as his home. He said that the owners of the property were asking $1.5 million for the home. The listing realtor gave potential buyers 3 days to make a bid for the home at which time the sealed bids would be opened and the new owner would be contacted, along with everyone who bid on the property. He said that the winning bid was $2.5 million. :o I bet even Greta and her minions couldn't afford to live around here. ::)
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https://www.deccanherald.com/national/gadkari-denies-scania-bribery-allegations-960547.html
I tell you this is the story of our lifetime. Why don´t they put their own "fu"§$ing" chicken farms on fire. FxASDF "shit" heads. You could laugh your ass off.... just follow the story. ;D ;D ;D
Corruption among Indian government officials!? Well clutch the pearls and say it ain't so! Not only isn't this "the story of our lifetime", I'd be astonished if it even made the "And Elsewhere" section of Well, Duh!, the quarterly journal of the obvious and self-evident. And when you look at this guy, Nitin Gadkari, tell me you wouldn't count the silverware after he came over for dinner. And has anyone else noticed his name is an anagram for "India Rat King"?
(https://www.deccanherald.com/sites/dh/files/styles/article_detail/public/articleimages/2021/03/11/pti992019000082a-951153-1613303346-1-960547-1615403775.jpg)
"How are you today? I am Roger calling to tell you that your vehicle's extended warranty is about to expire."
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I could laugh my ars off, all i need now is a dick. ;D ;D ;D
....because I've got no balls. :)
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I have always wanted to answer that robo call and ask them to renew the warranty of my 22-year old Saturn. But I never had the guts to do it. I don't know what their gimmick is but I really don't want to be on their calling list any more than I already am. ::)
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What to trust anymore ???
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Corruption among Indian government officials!? Well clutch the pearls and say it ain't so! Not only isn't this "the story of our lifetime", I'd be astonished if it even made the "And Elsewhere" section of Well, Duh!, the quarterly journal of the obvious and self-evident. And when you look at this guy, Nitin Gadkari, tell me you wouldn't count the silverware after he came over for dinner. And has anyone else noticed his name is an anagram for "India Rat King"?
(https://www.deccanherald.com/sites/dh/files/styles/article_detail/public/articleimages/2021/03/11/pti992019000082a-951153-1613303346-1-960547-1615403775.jpg)
"How are you today? I am Roger calling to tell you that your vehicle's extended warranty is about to expire."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiOgWmWhXs
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I have always wanted to answer that robo call and ask them to renew the warranty of my 22-year old Saturn. But I never had the guts to do it. I don't know what their gimmick is but I really don't want to be on their calling list any more than I already am. ::)
...some companies you would not want even a coffe from, 100% guaranteed. ;)
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Answer the call in a foreign language, it's very entertaining to hear the sudden silence on the other end. If they call back in Spanish or German, start back in speaking English... ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiOgWmWhXs
Mr. Ratt King looks rather sensible to me, looks like he is having lot of fun those days.
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Indian training for working in a call centre taking calls from Australia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQRZXM-4xI
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Indian training for working in a call centre taking calls from Australia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQRZXM-4xI
Glenn: What a superb tip! And what is more, there's whole SERIES of those wonderous things AND a lovely dark series of the formative penal colony years of Oz titled, "Bruce" besides. It's all "Must-See TV", and you can count me among the subscribed. Thanks again, you balmy dongo!
Here's a link to their whole channel: https://youtube.com/c/HowToTalkAustralians
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The latest food product from California's laboratories according to this afternoon's TV news is plant-based egg and cheese. The four TV news personalities each ate a manufactured egg and cheese sandwich while reporting on the local news. They said that it tasted just like real egg and cheese - but apparently not chicken. ;)
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An opinion article in my newspaper yesterday detailed a poll financed by an immigrant advocacy organization that said that 58% of the residents of California not only welcome "undocumented" (as in entered illegally) immigrants into the state, but also want their taxes to fund free universal medical care for them. That could be really expensive for a state that had a projected budget last year of $65 billion in the hole, until being bailed out by the federal government, but is also proposing many more expensive social programs that do not seem to have a permanent funding source. Maybe the general public in this state believes that a debt doesn't have to be paid back or that the Great Utopian State of Kaifornia prints its own money, just like the Federal government does. ::)
In a related opinion article on the same page it was mentioned that another nationwide poll found that the majority of Americans are not worried about running up federal deficits and believe that the Federal Reserve will keep interest rates down to 2% and that there is nothing wrong with printing money to cover our debts. I wonder how China feels about that? ::)
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And today it was announced that a law has been submitted to the California state legislature that would create a "single payer' health care system, where all working residents of the state would pay taxes to support universal health care for everyone in the state (I assume legal or otherwise). The estimated cost per year is $450 billion. Right now there appears to be no estimate how much taxes would have to be raised to fund the program and who would pay these taxes - individuals and/or businesses. ??? Meanwhile, both large corporations and wealthy individuals are steadily moving out of the state to jurisdictions with lower taxes and fewer regulations. :( I wonder when California will build a wall along its border to keep its residents in the state to fund its expensive "progressive" programs? ::)
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In general I find it better if Gretas keep building stuff like this than going into drugs for example or becoming just another leadership minion, the minor issue though is that if it doesn't become the greatest market success possible Gretas are going to cry to their mamas and they are going to lynch anyone whom they figure to be responsible for failing to sell this bike to every single soul on the planets surface, taking the "help" from the government too, trying to mandate it on everyone except themselves. As I had the fortune to witness several times. ;D
How is it a Swede is possessed of so much good sense, sir? The more I read of your posts on this forum the more I am convinced you cannot possibly be an actual Swede, for as a conservative American I know for a fact the Swedes are a uniformly brainwashed species of creature with absolutely no grasp of moral decency or simple rational sense.
What's going on with you?
Or, perhaps I am actually WRONG about all the Swedes being worshippers of the young foolish freshfaced harpy Thunberg and her ilk? Are there some Swedes that...dare I say it...dare I hope it...are not of the self brainwashed self righteous virtue signalling demonic persuasion? ;)
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And today it was announced that a law has been submitted to the California state legislature that would create a "single payer' health care system, where all working residents of the state would pay taxes to support universal health care for everyone in the state (I assume legal or otherwise). The estimated cost per year is $450 billion. Right now there appears to be no estimate how much taxes would have to be raised to fund the program and who would pay these taxes - individuals and/or businesses. ??? Meanwhile, both large corporations and wealthy individuals are steadily moving out of the state to jurisdictions with lower taxes and fewer regulations. :( I wonder when California will build a wall along its border to keep its residents in the state to fund its expensive "progressive" programs? ::)
Remember a few months ago when Nuissance Newsom had to make that PSA admitting California's renewable energy infrastructure was not sufficient to keep the state powered during the wildfires...this after the rolling brownouts had already made the situation utterly apparent to absolutely everyone, even the idiots in Hollywood?
And remember when a few weeks later he made another PSA stating he had signed an EO that California would be entirely free of internal combustion engine passenger and commercial vehicles by something like 2035, thereby forcing everyone to switch to electric transportation?
I suppose he just decided that by something like 2035 California's rolling brownouts will have become official state policy, just so everyone can have a half hour's worth of charge for their cars every night, lol.
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Remember a few months ago when Nuissance Newsom had to make that PSA admitting California's renewable energy infrastructure was not sufficient to keep the state powered during the wildfires...this after the rolling brownouts had already made the situation utterly apparent to absolutely everyone, even the idiots in Hollywood?
And remember when a few weeks later he made another PSA stating he had signed an EO that California would be entirely free of internal combustion engine passenger and commercial vehicles by something like 2035, thereby forcing everyone to switch to electric transportation?
I suppose he just decided that by something like 2035 California's rolling brownouts will have become official state policy, just so everyone can have a half hour's worth of charge for their cars every night, lol.
It is a good thing that Californians' memories about what their politicians say only lasts 24 hours. ;)
I used to attend all of the Planning Commission meetings in the city that I worked for as part of my engineering division duties - just in case a commission member wanted to know why water flows down hill. ;) I was amazed that when the secretary of the commission would read the written minutes of the last meeting to the commission so that they could formally approve them that there would sometimes be a commission member who would object when he or she realized that something that he or she had said during the previous meeting was either wrong or politically incorrect. He or she would want the written minutes changed to reflect what he or she wished she or he had said and not what they actually said. I was impressed how history could be changed by someone who was keeping an eye on which way the political winds were blowing. ::)
Of course, this is nothing new. Politicians and despots have been doing this sort of thing since the stone age and then rewriting the history books (or before the written word, verbal stores and songs) so that future generations would not know what had happened in the past that they didn't want them to know. :(
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My post above reminded me of a wonderful political story: During the late 1970's the members of the city council of the city that I worked for were all Italian-American local businessmen. They had hired an Italian-American architect to redesign the main street that went in front of City hall and where all of their businesses were located. This street was two lanes wide, with diagonal parking along each side (with parking meters, of course). The street had a slope of about 6%. The architect showed off his plan to convert the main drag into a canal with gondolas running up and down the street. :o The only issue with this design was there there were no locks shown on the plan and no source of water to fill the canal and no way to keep it filled. But architects typically don't care to worry about these sort of details.
The city council loved the idea and wanted to proceed with the plan. That was until the city engineer took each of them aside (you don't step on political toes in public) and explained that water only flowed downhill and the plan was not all that workable. Besides when visitors couldn't drive their cars downtown and park directly in front of their businesses, that would be a financial issue for them. ;) So eventually a new architect with an engineer on their staff was hired to work on another plan. That one eventually fell apart also, this time due to construction practicalities. We ended up completing the construction drawings and putting the street improvement plans out to bid ourselves. It eventually was built, but a lot of money and time was wasted along the way. ::)
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OK, so it's not Sweden or California, but rather takes place in Norway, but those with the HBO Max streaming service might enjoy an odd little series produced by HBO Europe rather cleverly titled, Beforeigners. The main concept is that individuals from the the Stone Age, Viking Era and 19th Century are being somehow mysteriously brought forward into the present time, just sort of turning up with a flash in the waters of Oslo Bay and elsewhere.
I'm no film critic or analyst, but I imagine there's some sort of a metaphor for the modern day refugee crisis at play here. One episode in particular is pretty amusing, in which they show a sort of orientation (read: indoctrination) class for a bunch of the newcomers led by ninnies touting the diversity and tolerance of the current culture with a helpful instructional film replete with gay weddings, smooching dudes, and a whole host of other woke bullshit you might rightfully expect would only baffle a room full of Vikings for whom a foe's blood would be a hair care product, or ardent Calvinists, for that matter.
I'm looking forward to its 2nd season, and so long as subtitles don't cause you to swallow your own tongue, you might enjoy it too. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beforeigners for further details.
For those with Scandinavian language chops, I'd be curious to hear what they think of what I imagine must be the Old Norse purportedly being spoken in some scenes.
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and a whole host of other woke bullshit you might rightfully expect would only baffle a room full of Vikings for whom a foe's blood would be a hair care product, or ardent Calvinists, for that matter.
If I've got my church history correct, the reformation in Scandiwegia went mostly Lutheran, many of the reformees' 19th Century successors emigrated to places like Minnesooooota. I get the distinct impression that the folks who founded this place had been more used to fjords than prairies!
http://www.kongsvingerchurch.org/
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I'm looking forward to its 2nd season,
Me, too!
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Here's some good informative historical Swedish docudrama - get your aquavit, crispbread & kippers and settle in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emigrants_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Land
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I was looking through my weekly TV listings last night and noticed that Greta has her own TV show. At 8pm Wednesday on my local PBS channel will be a show titled: "Greta Thunberg: A Year to Change the World". In this episode you can: "Follow Greta's journey from Switzerland to Poland to the UK." I assume this is a BBC production meant to soften up the UK to her arrival. Good luck fellows. Here she comes! She will be whipping you into shape for your new future without your dirty, stinking, noisy and anti-social motorcycles. ;)
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I was looking through my weekly TV listings last night and noticed that Greta has her own TV show. At 8pm Wednesday on my local PBS channel will be a show titled: "Greta Thunberg: A Year to Change the World". In this episode you can: "Follow Greta's journey from Switzerland to Poland to the UK." I assume this is a BBC production meant to soften up the UK to her arrival. Good luck fellows. Here she comes! She will be whipping you into shape for your new future without your dirty, stinking, noisy and anti-social motorcycles. ;)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/ba217d9c076954622772afdfbe659809/tumblr_n4898zVNFh1tv7yt8o1_400.gif)
How your "Greta-Approved" ride may appear
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Well that's the deceptive BBC for you, all high paid stealing licensing fees from poor old pensioners, when you see how much this government have stolen from the poor its hard to digest when you look at every thing, nothing but socially unjust robbers.
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(https://64.media.tumblr.com/ba217d9c076954622772afdfbe659809/tumblr_n4898zVNFh1tv7yt8o1_400.gif)
How your "Greta-Approved" ride may appear
:o ...I must be heaving a Déjà vu looking at that kind of a motorcycle model, could it be that I've seen already couple of those brand new designs in Gretas homeland ? ? ?
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Well that's the deceptive BBC for you, all high paid stealing licensing fees from poor old pensioners, when you see how much this government have stolen from the poor its hard to digest when you look at every thing, nothing but socially unjust robbers.
Stay assured they don't care about age when it comes to collecting.
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Well that one has some funny thighs for sure.
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Well that one has some funny thighs for sure.
That´s probably better rated than a somewhat too low centre of gravity. Would not turn me off exactly. ;D
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I was looking through my weekly TV listings last night and noticed that Greta has her own TV show. At 8pm Wednesday on my local PBS channel will be a show titled: "Greta Thunberg: A Year to Change the World". In this episode you can: "Follow Greta's journey from Switzerland to Poland to the UK." I assume this is a BBC production meant to soften up the UK to her arrival. Good luck fellows. Here she comes! She will be whipping you into shape for your new future without your dirty, stinking, noisy and anti-social motorcycles. ;)
I watched about 14.7 minutes of that and just couldn't take any more. She's been totally co-opted by the extreme Left money-movers from the beginning (as BLM was) and will be the world's next political activist multi-millionaire soon. The complete takeover by the extreme Progressive Left here is pretty much complete. If Biden gets a second term (actually Obama's 4th term and worse) it will be pretty much over. Biden wants to actually pay car companies with taxpayer money to build electric vehicles and then sell them to taxpayers. Does the money stay in the car company to assure union jobs? Probably. But who knows? It has become complete insanity here in every aspect of everything that's supposed to make this country work. I'm glad I'm 83 and sort of near the end of having to watch the absolute lunacy of what's going on here.
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I have a close relative who has been on the dole for the past 40 years. He learned how to play the game long ago. You just have to know the government rules and how to get around them. For all that time he has been living in a county government-run low-income housing duplex in Tracy, CA and only paying $350 a month in rent while working at a Kellogg's warehouse. The county takes care of all maintenance and utilities for his home and every 20 years or so repaints the place inside and out and replaces the appliances as needed, along with maintaining the front and rear landscaping. Plus, he has non-profit agencies coming by now and then giving him free food and other donations. The secret is to make sure that your income is below a certain level (in his case it was $47K a year) and hide any other income in locations that do not report the money to the government. A few years ago he received $80K from his mother's estate and his wife received $150K from her parent's estate when they died. Oddly, those disbursements did not generate an IRS 1099 form and neither the state nor the federal government were notified of that income.
Right before he was to retire, his warehouse company fired him for not doing his job properly. He and some other workers sued Kellogg and just received over $100K each in a class action suit. That money was also not reported to the government, I was told. Then last year he and his wife (who has always stayed home, watching TV and eating cookies) started receiving government "stimulus" checks, something like $2,400, then $1,200 and now even more money. What triggered today's rant is that he sent me this message last night (he always emails in capital letters): WE JUST GOT A LETTER ABOUT THE NEXT
STIMULUS CHECK TO COME THIS MONTH. I LOVE FREE MONEY AND DIRECT DEPOSIT TOO. And he included this link with his message: https://www.eitcoutreach.org/blog/what-to-know-about-the-third-stimulus-checks/
Happy days are here again - unless you have a well-paying job and are paying taxes to the government that then gets turned around and sent to people who know how to scam the system. >:(
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Which is why you would need to be an idiot wanting to build anything in Sweden when everyone is engaged in scamming the system. However, maybe the new experts that come next year maybe from Kongo will fix it. ;)
They should be just aware that a tent doesn't work there due to the environmental conditions.
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I just heard on the radio that there is a push in the California state legislature to pass a law guaranteeing a $1,000 monthly payment from the government for "under-served" residents and for those people who are not working. When the legislator who was being interviewed was asked about how the disbursement would be funded he said something about the state needing to balance its budget but the federal government can print money and it could be paid that way. ::)
Meanwhile San Francisco is considering paying "reparations" to their residents who have ancestors who were slaves in the past. They plan to form a committee to study the proposal. ???
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@ 191: any more details? I'm only finding medical resource and student loan references...?
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I just heard on the radio that there is a push in the California state legislature to pass a law guaranteeing a $1,000 monthly payment from the government for "under-served" residents
Ironically, I feel ENTIRELY underserved by my Sacramento govt as well as my Los Angeles govt, yet I suspect I'm not being targeted for this dole.
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Any hard info yet seen on this topic? Not curious?
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Any hard info yet seen on this topic? Not curious?
All I ever hear are teasers, short dramatic news stories and politician interviews promoting their ideas on the radio and TV about most of these proposals. The only time I get real information is when my newspaper decides to publish a more in-depth article.
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Here is the latest news from California: Attached is an article describing the California Governor's latest multi-million dollar giveaway program and how it compares with other states that incentivize getting vaccinated by giving out free beer and park passes. Did he really need to have a lottery that will hand out $1.5 million rewards to 10 people for getting vaccinated? I would think that something not quite that generous would work just as well, such as the $50 gift cards that will be given out to the 2 million people who get vaccinated by June 15. But when the money is not coming out of your pocket and you are under the threat of being recalled, I guess the sky's the limit. ::)
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Here is the latest news from California: Attached is an article describing the California Governor's latest multi-million dollar giveaway program and how it compares with other states that incentivize getting vaccinated by giving out free beer and park passes. Did he really need to have a lottery that will hand out $1.5 million rewards to 10 people for getting vaccinated? I would think that something not quite that generous would work just as well, such as the $50 gift cards that will be given out to the 2 million people who get vaccinated by June 15. But when the money is not coming out of your pocket and you are under the threat of being recalled, I guess the sky's the limit. ::)
How about you just tell them to get the shot or lose their right to go out in public? You know when I first heard the old saw about "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public" I thought it was just more of the old mans cynical BS. Now I realize he was on to a basic truth.
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If C19 had a 10% kill rate we wouldn't be having this discussion {The mortality rate for acute paralytic polio ranges from 5–15%, Spanish Influenza about 3%}. Pure Darwinian survival logic would overcome the entertainment value of the blog-o-sphere conspiracy mongers. At 1% lethality, the ancient "chicken brane" part which drives most of our "feelin's" just ignores the threat. The cognitive part does not, so we learn empirically which chunk of grey tissue actually runs the show for most folks. Logic will keep you & yours alive & healthy, "feelin's" not so much. Besides, the internal dialog story goes, the fact I've lived this long PROVES my behaviors must be correct, yes? And as always - Change is bad...change is bad...change is bad...change is bad... :o
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/poliomyelitis/facts#:~:text=The%20mortality%20rate%20for%20acute,of%20patients%20with%20paralytic%20poliomyelitis.
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210329.51293/full/
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But when the money is not coming out of your pocket and you are under the threat of being recalled, I guess the sky's the limit. ::)
Precisely. >:(
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If C19 had a 10% kill rate we wouldn't be having this discussion {The mortality rate for acute paralytic polio ranges from 5–15%, Spanish Influenza about 3%}. Pure Darwinian survival logic would overcome the entertainment value of the blog-o-sphere conspiracy mongers. At 1% lethality, the ancient "chicken brane" part which drives most of our "feelin's" just ignores the threat. The cognitive part does not, so we learn empirically which chunk of grey tissue actually runs the show for most folks. Logic will keep you & yours alive & healthy, "feelin's" not so much. Besides, the internal dialog story goes, the fact I've lived this long PROVES my behaviors must be correct, yes? And as always - Change is bad...change is bad...change is bad...change is bad... :o
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/poliomyelitis/facts#:~:text=The%20mortality%20rate%20for%20acute,of%20patients%20with%20paralytic%20poliomyelitis.
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210329.51293/full/
Wow, ECDC...another would like to be world rulers or EU rulers atleast, forcing EU countries to obey their rigid regs. More people dying in EU countries following their orders than from disease itself.
Change is constant, a perfect world doesn't exist though. What's next mandatory wearing of space suits outside your home?
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https://www.driving.co.uk/news/vw-chairman-people-held-accountable-diesel-emission-tests-monkeys/
I remember the outcry after it became public that vw tested the diesel fumes from their EU6 engines on monkeys. Testing on humans as they do it in Sweden is definitely socially more acceptable those days, wonderful world. They may not even need the "Sputnik V" vaccination in future to shut down all critique around it.
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The ECDC reference was for polio. Do you have any verifiable evidence that the ECDC is killing 5% - 15% of the population trying to control polio? Is there some actual rational reason you think space suits are equivalent to a face mask? If so, maybe face masks can replace space suit - it'd be a real cost saver for NASA. Where does all this stuff you write down come from, National Enquirer or Daily Sun?
" Wow, ECDC...another would like to be world rulers or EU rulers atleast, forcing EU countries to obey their rigid regs. More people dying in EU countries following their orders than from disease itself. Change is constant, a perfect world doesn't exist though. What's next mandatory wearing of space suits outside your home? "
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The ECDC reference was for polio. Do you have any verifiable evidence that the ECDC is killing 5% - 15% of the population trying to control polio? Is there some actual rational reason you think space suits are equivalent to a face mask? If so, maybe face masks can replace space suit - it'd be a real cost saver for NASA. Where does all this stuff you write down come from, National Enquirer or Daily Sun?
" Wow, ECDC...another would like to be world rulers or EU rulers atleast, forcing EU countries to obey their rigid regs. More people dying in EU countries following their orders than from disease itself. Change is constant, a perfect world doesn't exist though. What's next mandatory wearing of space suits outside your home? "
Been smoking the weeds. ;) ...soon to be for free.
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https://5ihudxapna643x4lgihqncbfhq-ac5fdsxevxq4s5y-www-aftonbladet-se.translate.goog/nojesbladet/a/ngjLad/hollywoodstjarnans-ovantade-besok--pa-pizzeria-i-jarna
...I always wondered why those holy wood stars would visit a sinkhole like this little village Sweden, are they begging the whole world for a donation? Or just to watch that "Hunger Games" in real life? Between B & W
...stinky parasites.
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Warning - warning - spooling up alert - spooling up alert - paroxysm imminent, stand clear, prepare to repel boarders... ::)
https://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/welcome-to-sweden-greg-poehler
15 Things An American Learns About Sweden After Moving There
2. Everyone is beautiful. Everyone.
Sorry, no exceptions. "In the back of your head, you’re thinking, Well, how beautiful can they be? And it turns out, really fucking beautiful," Poehler said. "It’s weird. It’s almost like a new planet of hot people." According to Poehler, a Swedish 5 is an American 12.
3. And nudity is no big deal.
That's why you'll see it on Welcome to Sweden — er, the Swedish version, at least. "Nudity’s not a thing for them. I mean, it is a thing, but it’s a thing that’s constantly around," Poehler said. His kids swim naked all summer and then have to deal with their own culture shock when they come to the U.S. and have to cover up. But Poehler believes the nudity is actually a good thing: "Even at a young age, you can just see how accepting they are of nudity and their bodies."
8. Also mostly nonexistent: celebrity culture.
"Swedes have a different view of celebrity, and I think it ties in with their socialistic mentality, which is like, nobody’s better than anybody else," Poehler explained. He's actually a much bigger name in Sweden: His series averaged 1.5 million viewers — which is a lot when you consider that Sweden is a country of about 9 million people. But while Poehler is recognized, he's not mobbed when he goes out. "Mostly they just stare," he said. "There’s a lot of staring happening. Which I assume is because of the show."
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Well that´s why you can´t say to a Swede that it takes 120Nm of torque to bolt your wheels on the car. They will feel inferiour thinking you are lecturing them and will find a way to lower you down.
That anthroposohic sekt goes even so far as saying there is zero difference between a man a woman, so now they have only the IT´s. ::) ....and don´t learn to "read" because that´s somehow bad and it could ruin your life because you could be banned from that what they consider "paradise". Now they have that holy Greta, and some chosen children running that show. :o
1.5 million swedes out of 9 million watching that Poehler (who I've never heard of neither do I want to) show, what does that tell us? See how uneducated I must be in the Swedes eyes.
Can't wait to see the shittiest shit movie ever with DiCaprio about that Diesel scandal. Ohhh, there already is a little propaganda piece on Netflix. Now 5G is supposedly causing corona, wow, I thought its just to make mobile data transfer faster. Well, well...
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" Now 5G is supposedly causing corona..." Yeah, when our Deposed Dear Leader was spending a lot of time on the phone with his bromance Hannity, that's when he got the 'Rona, ya know. Jeanine Pirro got matching shots with him before he left in January, but he couldn't tell the followers because that's against the omerta. Better for them to suffer in silence. Did you send off for your Anti-Vaxxer Yellow Star yet? All the cool Patriots are getting them. They are supposed to discourage the Bill Gates nanobots from colonizing your brain, or reassembling into an RFID tracker in your spleen, apparently the nanites don't like yellow. Or you can wear a mask to achieve the same effect if the Soros Militia blocks you from getting the Yellow Star patches via the interwebs. There's just sooo much to keep up with like cultural marxism, the deep state, FEMA death camps, watching for black helicopters, worrying about the stolen election, chemtrails, avoiding the Denver Airport which stands above the HQ of the new world order, watching for wild bands or freemasons, keeping out of sight of Israeli animal spies, watching for UFO's, parsing the evening fake news looking for illuminati messages, boiling my drinking water to remove fluoride put there by Antifa, keeping track of daily temperatures at my house to disprove those global warming conspirasists, wearing my custom knitted copper Faraday cap to block directed energy attacks, writing down my daily observations so the false history phantom time & new chronology cabal doesn't fool me. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to see if the freemasons have chalked another all-seeing Eye of Providence on my sidewalk...
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Nobody argues that c19 doesn't exist and vaccines and masks don't work.
The issue here is something else, which is why I gladly put that Corona Jew star on. It's like 5G, I just don't need it, if I want that I get it. ABS, I don't need it, however I may want it.
It's something to do with the sales method. If someone puts a gun on your head that you have to buy something they sell than I am under no circumstances willing to deal with that company.
Swedish commie companies operate sometimes other way around, they order some shit after they got what they wanted they say they didn't want it and you "forced" them to buy it. Another shitheads nobody can afford to deal with.
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https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html
....and here you have another conspiracy theorist, send him to Sweden. They will inject him with some psycho drugs, lock him in and you won´t ever hear of that guy again. ;)
....problem solved. ;D ;D ;D
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Can I still get a "trucker cap" with the yellow anit-vaxxer star on it? That would be perfect to wear when traveling in the UK or EU. Maybe even Sweden, too. ;)
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I'm definitely buying one of those yellow stars from that lady.
And BTW, none of these jabs qualify as a "vaccination". A vaccine is a weakened or deactivated virus particle intended to provoke the natural immune system toward a natural immunity.
None of the current covid jabs are like that. They are gene interventions which re-program and take over cell activity to unnaturally manufacture empty spike proteins that don't contain the virus, so that the ACE2 receptors are full up and the covid has less of a chance to attach. No immunity is conferred, nor claimed by the mfrs. Jabbed people are still getting the covid. Furthermore, none of the current jabs are FDA approved, and they are all experimental under the "emergency authorization" provision.
The covid survival rate is better than 99% for the general population, less deadly than yearly common flu.. There is no "emergency".
I will not subject myself to an experimental untested non-approved injection involving permanent and irreversible changes to my genetic programming when there is virtually no risk from this "disease".
Others can decide for themselves. My decision has been made.
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html
From Table #2, Maximum flu mortality rate was amongst the 65+ group. Per 100,000 people, 3600 had serious flu symptoms, about 2000 of these showed up at a doctor, and about 330 were hospitalized. Of the 3600 showing severe symptoms about 25 died. 25/100,000= 0.00025, thus a kill rate for "normal flu" of 0.025%, twenty five thousandths of one percent.
Table #1 claims overall flu related deaths at roughly 22,000 for the whole country, so 22,000/330,000,000= 0.00007 or 0.007%, seven thousandths of one percent.
In the USA we have about 600,000 Covid-19 attributable deaths. The death rate here is about 0.2% because we have hospitals with oxygen and actual resources. Poor beleaguered India & Brazil have kill rates of between 1% & 2%. So overall C19 death rate in the USA is 600,000/330,000,000=0.0018, or 180 Thousandths of one percent. 180/7= 25.7 times greater, explaining why the hospitals are overflowing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine#:~:text=D014612,one%20of%20its%20surface%20proteins.
"A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins." Often clearly implies other methodologies are in play here. We've moved from leeches to lasers in med-tech over the last 100 years.
" I will not subject myself to an experimental untested non-approved injection involving permanent and irreversible changes to my genetic programming when there is virtually no risk from this "disease"."
This is an absurd statement. Such tech is the realm of Sci-Fi, along with Bill Gates Nanobots.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-covid-19-vaccine-modify/false-claim-a-covid-19-vaccine-will-genetically-modify-humans-idUSKBN22U2BZ
Widely shared claims on social media link to a video alleging that a future vaccine against COVID-19 would “genetically modify” humans. This claim is scientifically untrue.
Example of the claims can be seen here and here and here .
Most claims refer to a version of a now-deleted, widely shared YouTube video of Dr Andrew Kaufman, a “natural healing consultant” ( here ) in an interview with Spiro Skouras, an online-personality and “independent researcher” with a popular YouTube channel.
In the video, Kaufman talks about how a future COVID-19 vaccine would provide a vessel to “inject genes” into humans, first by a procedure known as “electroporation”, in which an electric current “create little holes in our cells that allow the DNA to go into our own cells” and then through the insertion of “foreign proteins that supposedly generate immunity”. Kaufman concludes that the vaccine, like the results of biotechnology in agriculture, will make humans “genetically modified organisms”.
There are multiple claims in the nearly one hour-long video, which are beyond the scope of this fact check. However, the main claim in these posts on social media that a COVID-19 vaccine will genetically modify humans (described in the headline of the video and by Kaufman) is false. While most headlines don’t mention DNA-based vaccines, Dr Kaufman talks about them in the video.
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), a DNA vaccine “involves the direct introduction into appropriate tissues of a plasmid containing the DNA sequence encoding the antigen(s) against which an immune response is sought, and relies on the in situ production of the target antigen.” ( here )
This means that, in contrast to the more widespread “conventional” vaccines ( here ) which use a whole pathogen or fragment, a DNA vaccine involves the injection of a small part of the virus’s genetic code (DNA or RNA) to stimulate immune response in a patient without an infection ( here ).
This procedure does not create a genetically modified organism, which the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) defines as “an organism in which one or more genes (called transgenes) have been introduced into its genetic material from another organism using recombinant DNA technology.” ( here )
Mark Lynas, a visiting fellow at Cornell University’s Alliance for Science group, debunked the idea that a DNA vaccine could genetically modify an organism. Lynas told Reuters that no vaccine can genetically modify human DNA.
“That’s just a myth, one often spread intentionally by anti-vaccination activists to deliberately generate confusion and mistrust,” he said. “Genetic modification would involve the deliberate insertion of foreign DNA into the nucleus of a human cell, and vaccines simply don’t do that. Vaccines work by training the immune system to recognize a pathogen when it attempts to infect the body - this is mostly done by the injection of viral antigens or weakened live viruses that stimulate an immune response through the production of antibodies.”
Lynas added: “The DNA [in DNA vaccines] does not integrate into the cell nucleus so this isn’t genetic modification - if the cells divide they will only include your natural DNA. But this approach is incredibly promising for COVID because it can be scaled up very quickly, and is very versatile - it is easy to synthetically produce DNA sequences that match the required bits of viral genetic code.”
Dr Paul McCray, Professor of Pediatrics, Microbiology, and Internal Medicine at the University of Iowa further explained to Reuters via email how the COVID-19 vaccines being developed would work:
“For COVID-19, the main protein used to boost the immune system is the spike (S) protein from the virus. This can be given as a vaccine in many different forms: as inactivated (dead) virus, as expressed protein, in a DNA or RNA vector that will make cells make this protein, etc. So the only modification to the host is to stimulate them to make antibodies and T cells that will prevent infection with the virus or kill any infected cells to prevent or reduce disease severity. This is what happens if you get a virus infection naturally, but the vaccine takes the risk of serious disease out of the equation.”
There are many trials currently underway for a COVID-19 vaccine worldwide, with some exploring the possibility of a DNA vaccine, which may be where this false claim stems from ( here , here ).
While there are trials for a DNA vaccine for COVID-19 underway, the method does not involve changing people’s existing DNA. A future COVID-19 vaccine would not make humans “genetically modified organisms”, as the video claims.
VERDICT
False. A future COVID-19 vaccine will not genetically modify humans. DNA vaccines do not integrate the virus’ DNA into the cell nucleus of its recipient but instead inject part of the virus’ DNA/RNA into tissues to stimulate an immune response in the body.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts www.reuters.com/fact-check/about .
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Facts won't help ACR ;D
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It's interesting to see how some feel about Jewish history.
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It's interesting to see how some feel about Jewish history.
I can tell you that as a Jew I find the use of the Star of David in this instance reprehensible. For anyone of the Jewish faith, it's an instant reminder of the Holocaust and everything associated with it. If you don't want to get vaccinated that's your business, to use a symbol of Nazi repression, one that was used to identify the Jews so they could be literally murdered at will by any non-Jew that felt like it is disgusting.
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I concur with your more eloquent post.
Thank you.
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html
From Table #2, Maximum flu mortality rate was amongst the 65+ group. Per 100,000 people, 3600 had serious flu symptoms, about 2000 of these showed up at a doctor, and about 330 were hospitalized. Of the 3600 showing severe symptoms about 25 died. 25/100,000= 0.00025, thus a kill rate for "normal flu" of 0.025%, twenty five thousandths of one percent.
Table #1 claims overall flu related deaths at roughly 22,000 for the whole country, so 22,000/330,000,000= 0.00007 or 0.007%, seven thousandths of one percent.
In the USA we have about 600,000 Covid-19 attributable deaths. The death rate here is about 0.2% because we have hospitals with oxygen and actual resources. Poor beleaguered India & Brazil have kill rates of between 1% & 2%. So overall C19 death rate in the USA is 600,000/330,000,000=0.0018, or 180 Thousandths of one percent. 180/7= 25.7 times greater, explaining why the hospitals are overflowing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine#:~:text=D014612,one%20of%20its%20surface%20proteins.
"A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins." Often clearly implies other methodologies are in play here. We've moved from leeches to lasers in med-tech over the last 100 years.
" I will not subject myself to an experimental untested non-approved injection involving permanent and irreversible changes to my genetic programming when there is virtually no risk from this "disease"."
This is an absurd statement. Such tech is the realm of Sci-Fi, along with Bill Gates Nanobots.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-covid-19-vaccine-modify/false-claim-a-covid-19-vaccine-will-genetically-modify-humans-idUSKBN22U2BZ
Widely shared claims on social media link to a video alleging that a future vaccine against COVID-19 would “genetically modify” humans. This claim is scientifically untrue.
Example of the claims can be seen here and here and here .
Most claims refer to a version of a now-deleted, widely shared YouTube video of Dr Andrew Kaufman, a “natural healing consultant” ( here ) in an interview with Spiro Skouras, an online-personality and “independent researcher” with a popular YouTube channel.
In the video, Kaufman talks about how a future COVID-19 vaccine would provide a vessel to “inject genes” into humans, first by a procedure known as “electroporation”, in which an electric current “create little holes in our cells that allow the DNA to go into our own cells” and then through the insertion of “foreign proteins that supposedly generate immunity”. Kaufman concludes that the vaccine, like the results of biotechnology in agriculture, will make humans “genetically modified organisms”.
There are multiple claims in the nearly one hour-long video, which are beyond the scope of this fact check. However, the main claim in these posts on social media that a COVID-19 vaccine will genetically modify humans (described in the headline of the video and by Kaufman) is false. While most headlines don’t mention DNA-based vaccines, Dr Kaufman talks about them in the video.
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), a DNA vaccine “involves the direct introduction into appropriate tissues of a plasmid containing the DNA sequence encoding the antigen(s) against which an immune response is sought, and relies on the in situ production of the target antigen.” ( here )
This means that, in contrast to the more widespread “conventional” vaccines ( here ) which use a whole pathogen or fragment, a DNA vaccine involves the injection of a small part of the virus’s genetic code (DNA or RNA) to stimulate immune response in a patient without an infection ( here ).
This procedure does not create a genetically modified organism, which the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) defines as “an organism in which one or more genes (called transgenes) have been introduced into its genetic material from another organism using recombinant DNA technology.” ( here )
Mark Lynas, a visiting fellow at Cornell University’s Alliance for Science group, debunked the idea that a DNA vaccine could genetically modify an organism. Lynas told Reuters that no vaccine can genetically modify human DNA.
“That’s just a myth, one often spread intentionally by anti-vaccination activists to deliberately generate confusion and mistrust,” he said. “Genetic modification would involve the deliberate insertion of foreign DNA into the nucleus of a human cell, and vaccines simply don’t do that. Vaccines work by training the immune system to recognize a pathogen when it attempts to infect the body - this is mostly done by the injection of viral antigens or weakened live viruses that stimulate an immune response through the production of antibodies.”
Lynas added: “The DNA [in DNA vaccines] does not integrate into the cell nucleus so this isn’t genetic modification - if the cells divide they will only include your natural DNA. But this approach is incredibly promising for COVID because it can be scaled up very quickly, and is very versatile - it is easy to synthetically produce DNA sequences that match the required bits of viral genetic code.”
Dr Paul McCray, Professor of Pediatrics, Microbiology, and Internal Medicine at the University of Iowa further explained to Reuters via email how the COVID-19 vaccines being developed would work:
“For COVID-19, the main protein used to boost the immune system is the spike (S) protein from the virus. This can be given as a vaccine in many different forms: as inactivated (dead) virus, as expressed protein, in a DNA or RNA vector that will make cells make this protein, etc. So the only modification to the host is to stimulate them to make antibodies and T cells that will prevent infection with the virus or kill any infected cells to prevent or reduce disease severity. This is what happens if you get a virus infection naturally, but the vaccine takes the risk of serious disease out of the equation.”
There are many trials currently underway for a COVID-19 vaccine worldwide, with some exploring the possibility of a DNA vaccine, which may be where this false claim stems from ( here , here ).
While there are trials for a DNA vaccine for COVID-19 underway, the method does not involve changing people’s existing DNA. A future COVID-19 vaccine would not make humans “genetically modified organisms”, as the video claims.
VERDICT
False. A future COVID-19 vaccine will not genetically modify humans. DNA vaccines do not integrate the virus’ DNA into the cell nucleus of its recipient but instead inject part of the virus’ DNA/RNA into tissues to stimulate an immune response in the body.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts www.reuters.com/fact-check/about .
Run out and get your jabs then.
I encourage all "pro vaxxers" to get as many jabs as makes them feel "safe".
It's its own "reward".
I only make decisions for myself. It's not on the table for negotiation.
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Anyone who feels entitled to make this decisions for me may as well look into that black hole.
I find that "global warming" the Swedish Jews finance more than perverse. Human trafficking, braking up families, steeling children. Brainwashing people into obedience. They f#$ing don't shy away to use that teenage Greta for their purpose. What "exactly" would you call that. Than they blame it on the "Germans", so that they can flush more cash into their stinky foundations that pay their mental hospitals where they create their patients themselves.
I am buying that star, if a jew that's got nothing to do with that shit is annoyed than I am sorry about that. After 10 years in that jew and their subjects made gulag I couldn't care less.
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Anyone who feels entitled to make this decisions for me may as well look into that black hole.
I find that "global warming" the Swedish Jews finance more than perverse. Human trafficking, braking up families, steeling children. Brainwashing people into obedience. They f#$ing don't shy away to use that teenage Greta for their purpose. What "exactly" would you call that. Than they blame it on the "Germans", so that they can flush more cash into their stinky foundations that pay their mental hospitals where they create their patients themselves.
I am buying that star, if a jew that's got nothing to do with that shit is annoyed than I am sorry about that. After 10 years in that jew and their subjects made gulag I couldn't care less.
It's good to know that you're not only a complete f**king asshole, and in fact one who's posts rarely make sense, but apparently an anti-semite as well. Buy your star, and wear it proudly, I'd expect nothing less from someone like you.
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Ya, probably they send some money they suck out of people to that holy wood too, so that they can make movies how oppressive all other cultures are.
I definitely don't want to see any of their "security" companies where they employ all that Syrians around.
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Ya, probably they send some money they suck out of people to that holy wood too, so that they can make movies how oppressive all other cultures are.
Actually since we control the world and everything in it, all we have to do is use our space lasers to broadcast secret messages to the puppets we've put in charge of things like that. I'm surprised a lad of your obvious intelligence didn't know that.
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Doesn't put me down to be called antismite. ;) ...guess what they would call you in that Gulag where apparently only "children" live and you tell one of them to clean their shit up. :o
F@#ing 50 year old children. ;D
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Doesn't put me down to be called antismite. ;) ...guess what they would call you in that Gulag where apparently only "children" live and you tell one of them to clean their shit up. :o
F@#ing 50 year old children. ;D
It's not a put down, it's simply what you are. Just like it's not a put down to call a cockroach exactly what it is. The thing is that a cockroach can't help being what it is. You made a conscious choice to become what you are and that's sad. But it does go a long way towards explaining certain things about you.
As to the rest of your post as usual it's mostly gibberish, but since it's always inconsequential I'll pay it no mind. ;)
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Rather than buying a star, it makes more sense to just get a yellow 6 point star tattoo on your forehead. That way you wouldn't have to be bothered with transferring it from shirt to shirt and it'd get the message across faster. Besides, masking against all those nanites might obscure the pin-on star if your mask slides down.
We are apparently to the point where reality and entertainment inexplicably converge, and many don't seem to be willing or able to discern the difference. I never have got an answer as to what exactly the "stolen election/anti-vaxxers" expect out of this charade, either because they don't know or are afraid to say. It's obvious the entire F'en world isn't conspiring against you, as that scale of deception isn't sustainable and you aren't worth that much effort anyway. Is it the need for a sense of superiority? Do you really need to step on someone else's neck to feel better about yourselves? The whole "Deep State Conspiracy" horse shit is sure a way to feel victimized, but you have to know, deep down, that following Facebook & other easily manipulated media is mostly playing into the hands of the Russian, Iranian & Chinese cyberforces. Multiple agencies staffed with actual patriots have concluded that. Ex-SecDefs, Ex-Senate Arms Committee folks and other notables have confirmed this. If Xi Peng or Putin gets control, what happens next to a countries unwilling to coalesce to respond in a unified manner to REAL aggression? History is littered with corpses of failed nations, why would you deliberately make it easy for the opposition to triumph?
China has 1.3 billion people and needs more room. Russia would really like some warmer terrain to inhabit and a few more countries around themselves as buffer zones. Following Limbaugh, Hannity & Jones down a rabbit hole to gain them more salable sponsor airtime isn't a good reason to abandon rational thought. The resistance folks of WW1, WW2 were rational folks, not conspiracists. The "Red Dawn" kids didn't spend their days trawling through Dark Web posts to find some whack-job "scientist" to justify their behavior. The inability to process objectively & rationally won't turn out well if you are up against the Red Army or Peoples Liberation Army; keep this up and that's where we'll be, sooner or later. As B. Franklin said - "We'll hang together or most assuredly we'll hang seperately."
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And how do you plan to compete agains china or russia? By undermining confidence in everything? - Not a good idea.
That covid shot does exactly that, and it´s not some home grown weed like product, it comes from supposedly reputable places.
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Undermining confidence? I'll leave that in your capable hands. The only constant I've seen displayed so far is that they are "all out to get you" and "everything is a fraud", two really confidence un-building sentiments. Luckily about 43 members of the US Senate are pandering to that mindset, so they are helping further the "cause". The C19 vaccines perform as advertised, they reduce the likelihood of a 1%-2% chance at meeting the Reaper down to near zero. India & Brazil can only wish they had the same vaccine access we do, unfortunately they just get the pointed end of the stick instead. All the while we have U.S. anti-vaxxers running amok claiming it's all a plot aginn'em, "it's not a problem 'cause I'm not sick/dead", then cheerfully (and inadvertently) volunteering their asymptomatic un-vaxed selves up to help breed the next C19 viral variant. Too bad we can't just send their shot allotment to someone that wants it & will appreciate the benefit. It would be great to get an anti-vaxxer's signature on paper rejecting the vaccine & authorizing a transfer to India or Brazil. If we get lucky and a really lethal strain emerges, maybe that'll get it through their pointy heads that vaccines are a good tool against disease. I know for certain that a 10% kill rate there'd be "no atheist's in foxholes", so to speak. Could you imagine the whining if someone has signed away his vaccine and a new 10% lethality variant emerged? You're too old to believe in magic, dig into the actual meat of this and quit parroting the GRU's Net 'bot jingo's, quit selling Fox/OAN/Newsmax sponsor airtime.
"it's easier to fool a man than convince him he's been fooled." Twain/Clemens in the wayback...
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Feel free to send mine to anyone who wants it.
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Feel free to send mine to anyone who wants it.
I wouldn't even do that, seeing as how these shots have their patents filed under "gene therapy." Patents are public information, Moderna and company didn't even try to hide this stuff.
When the previous administration was in power the left was screaming that people shouldn't take the Trump Vaccine because it was literally going to kill people. Just months later, when the next administration is in power, the left is screaming people should take the Biden Vaccine because it is literally the only thing that can save people.
Same vaccine, people, same vaccine, just the label's changed. ::)
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I was watching a BBC news program on PBS the other day and was amazed to hear that Japan only had a vaccination rate of 2%. I wonder what is up with that? They didn't mention the reason on the program, only that their hospitals were jammed with virus sufferers and everyone was wondering how that might impact the Olympics this summer - which was the real reason for bringing up the subject. Otherwise I don't think the BBC cares all that much about what is going on in Japan. However, they do seem pretty focused on India. And countries in Africa too for that matter, with stories about both areas every night.
In any case, there is no question that COVID-19 has been turned into a political merry-go-round for both U.S. political parties and their constituents (or should that be worshipers?) Like all politicians have said for the past 10,000 years. Never let a crisis go to waste. ;)
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gene therapy; noun
the transplantation of normal genes into cells in place of missing or defective ones in order to correct genetic disorders.
This is not what is happening in any of the MRNA vaccines. Period. Get off the Dark Web conspirion-go-round and educate yourself in molecular biology, that should occupy some considerable time. Gene Therapy is CRISPR territory, not MRNA turf. Gene therapy is still the stuff of sci-fy, like "Gattica" or "The Matrix". Disregarding all information except for that which you already believe is true is a rabbit hole. This is a complex subject, there are a lot of internet bullshit artists out there trolling for "believers". Don't volunteer to become a "moonie" for some jackass trolling for "likes" by pushing your buttons. Empirical data is a lot less fun, it's tedious to slog through, but ultimately produces better results.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-22/are-mrna-covid-vaccines-risky-what-the-experts-say-quicktake#:~:text=While%20the%20messenger%20RNA%20they,Control%20and%20Prevention%20explains.
How do mRNA COVID-19 vaccines differ from gene therapy?
While the messenger RNA they employ is a type of genetic material, the vaccines differ from what is typically thought of as gene therapy in that they do not change the DNA inside cells. “They do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention explains. Mar 21, 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/03/17/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapy-as-some-are-claiming/?sh=4dd4da523d20
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But, but... the Brazilian president said...
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No dude - like this....Bolsonaro just didn't get a reeel good look...
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I don't feel the need to present any argument because it wouldn't have any effect.. Both viewpoints are well entrenched in their own positions. Neither side will budge.
The dice have been rolled. Let's see how they come up. I'm not worried.
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I don't feel the need to present any argument because it wouldn't have any effect.. Both viewpoints are well entrenched in their own positions. Neither side will budge.
The dice have been rolled. Let's see how they come up. I'm not worried.
No judgement here, but I am curious if you're taking any other precautions i.e. wearing a mask, social distancing etc. Like I said I'm don't want to provoke any arguments, but it is a topic that's come up in my own circle of friends.
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No judgement here, but I am curious if you're taking any other precautions i.e. wearing a mask, social distancing etc. Like I said I'm don't want to provoke any arguments, but it is a topic that's come up in my own circle of friends.
Nope.
Nada.
I'm banking on my natural immune system. If I get sick, that's what I rely on. Of course, if I got sick I would stay home until better, just like I would with the flu. I consider it in the same category, and I don't get flu shots, nor wear any masks or social distance for the flu either.
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Nope.
Nada.
I'm banking on my natural immune system. If I get sick, that's what I rely on. Of course, if I got sick I would stay home until better, just like I would with the flu.
I appreciate your candor. Stay well. :)
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Nobody knows of course the exact alteration of the DNA that it causes, which is why it has to be tested on as many subjects as possible, best would be of course the entire world population to get the statistics right. ;)
I hope that Melinda takes all Bill's money, or is she going to inject her kids too? :o
Interestingly the car companies don't need a million engines to come up with a reliable design. Except that Swedish JWz companies, because they design after believes.
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Ummmm....do you have a brother/uncle/cousin/grandpappy that uses your passwords? :o
What happened to that Ducati cognoscenti, he was fun to learn from...where'd he go?
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Ummmm....do you have a brother/uncle/cousin/grandpappy that uses your passwords? :o
What happened to that Ducati cognoscenti, he was fun to learn from...where'd he go?
Ducati? They traded desmodromici for 2 extra cylinders and 10hp. Jews. ;D
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Ducati? They traded desmodromici for 2 extra cylinders and 10hp. Jews. ;D
You really are a fucking asshole aren't you.
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You really are a fucking asshole aren't you.
Yes, and proud of it.
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Yes, and proud of it.
I knew we could find something to agree on. ;)
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gene therapy; noun
the transplantation of normal genes into cells in place of missing or defective ones in order to correct genetic disorders.
This is not what is happening in any of the MRNA vaccines. Period. Get off the Dark Web conspirion-go-round and educate yourself in molecular biology, that should occupy some considerable time. Gene Therapy is CRISPR territory, not MRNA turf. Gene therapy is still the stuff of sci-fy, like "Gattica" or "The Matrix". Disregarding all information except for that which you already believe is true is a rabbit hole. This is a complex subject, there are a lot of internet bullshit artists out there trolling for "believers". Don't volunteer to become a "moonie" for some jackass trolling for "likes" by pushing your buttons. Empirical data is a lot less fun, it's tedious to slog through, but ultimately produces better results.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-22/are-mrna-covid-vaccines-risky-what-the-experts-say-quicktake#:~:text=While%20the%20messenger%20RNA%20they,Control%20and%20Prevention%20explains.
How do mRNA COVID-19 vaccines differ from gene therapy?
While the messenger RNA they employ is a type of genetic material, the vaccines differ from what is typically thought of as gene therapy in that they do not change the DNA inside cells. “They do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention explains. Mar 21, 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/03/17/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapy-as-some-are-claiming/?sh=4dd4da523d20
All of the above is irrelevant. The vaccine companies THEMSELVES have filed their C19 vaccines under "gene therapy."
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Everyone in my family and everyone that I know, including me, has had the shot. So far no one has suffered any after-effects from either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccines. :)
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Everyone in my family and everyone that I know, including me, has had the shot. So far no one has suffered any after-effects from either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccines. :)
That's one reason that I don't get too pushy with others about this topic.
Once the serum is injected, there is nothing else to be said or done.
It will either be fine, or it won't. The long term effects simply are not known.
At that point, I just hope for the best outcome for them.
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@ #243: Failure to document your claim renders it to hearsay. Man up and show the references, or clearly understand that you are promoting disinformation. The actual definition of "gene therapy" isn't irrelevant. MRNA construction methodology may in the corporate eye best legally be described as "gene therapy", but that's not what's happening at the cellular level in your body when you take an MRNA vaccine. No DNA is being resected in your body, that's just futuristic sci-fi stuff. Adding synthetic motor oil to your machine doesn't improve the crankshaft metallurgy, it just means the hydrocarbon chemists have found a better way to make oil lubricate.
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@ #244: +1 to that. I take advantage of modern tech every chance I get - eyeglasses, dentistry, clean water, education, the intranet, books, the infernal combustion engine, electricity, pneumatic tires, ad nauseum. People used to claim steel ploughs depleted the soil of nutrients and that tomatoes were poisonous. Bloomberg shows nearly 2,000,000,000 doses administered, so we're probably all good at this point.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/
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@AzCal - man, you've got a bucketful more patience than I've ever seen, let alone possess.
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@AzCal - man, you've got a bucketful more patience than I've ever seen, let alone possess.
+1
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That derottone is one weird fish :o
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@AzCal - man, you've got a bucketful more patience than I've ever seen, let alone possess.
Is that the mother that got fired because she said testing vaccines on the unsuspecting population is unethical? And the other one in the lab a woman who's got no kids but would do anything for money?
It looks like Mengele is running the covid show assisted by some über Jew like Soros. It pisses me off to have to witness something like that again, only this time they turned the whole world to a lab.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
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That derottone is one weird fish :o
We need more weirdo fishies like him.
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We need more weirdo fishies like him.
Yep, more anti-semiteic whack jobs with their incomprehensible posts and bizarre conspiracy theories are exactly what this forum needs.
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Where else would I go for my daily doom-scrolling? ;)
Judging what Youtube thinks I might want to watch, however, I'm spoilt for choice there.
A.
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Yep, more anti-semiteic whack jobs with their incomprehensible posts and bizarre conspiracy theories are exactly what this forum needs.
I doubt the forum had any needs at all.
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I doubt the forum had any needs at all.
I rest my case.
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https://tj3dfnkilhgwnb4nln3a2ovwbu-ac5fdsxevxq4s5y-www-expressen-se.translate.goog/nyheter/svenska-pensionspengar--gick-till-internetcensur/
...one possible solution would be to apply one of those high tech products financed by the swedish pensioners. The only issue is someone has to decide the truth.
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Is Norway anything like Sweden? I just heard on the morning snooze that a large group of young Norway kids got drunk and drove around the country in old buses and cars covered with graffiti and did their best to spread the Virus all over Norway, which has resulted in another surge in the country. Apparently it is a yearly tradition to invigorate kids after a long winter. Sounds like real fun to me. ::) Do they do anything like that in Sweden?
Regarding bizarre conspiracy theories, I just came up with one myself last night: It is my belief that Big Pharma hired that Chinese lab in Wuhan to develop the Corona Virus and spread it around so that they could make billions of dollars selling the vaccine to the world's population - at least the ones that could afford it. ::) And now they plan on getting us hooked on the shots so that we will have to pay big bucks to take a booster shot every year or run the risk of dying. :o They are also paying the world's media to run news stories every night spreading fear about the virus and guilt if you don't get the shot. Feel free to spread this conspiracy on the internet while sitting on the throne reading about your latest Next Door news events. ;D
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It's the NWO getting rid of anti-vac/conspiracy theorists!
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Is Norway anything like Sweden? I just heard on the morning snooze that a large group of young Norway kids got drunk and drove around the country in old buses and cars covered with graffiti and did their best to spread the Virus all over Norway, which has resulted in another surge in the country. Apparently it is a yearly tradition to invigorate kids after a long winter. Sounds like real fun to me. ::) Do they do anything like that in Sweden?
Regarding bizarre conspiracy theories, I just came up with one myself last night: It is my belief that Big Pharma hired that Chinese lab in Wuhan to develop the Corona Virus and spread it around so that they could make billions of dollars selling the vaccine to the world's population - at least the ones that could afford it. ::) And now they plan on getting us hooked on the shots so that we will have to pay big bucks to take a booster shot every year or run the risk of dying. :o They are also paying the world's media to run news stories every night spreading fear about the virus and guilt if you don't get the shot. Feel free to spread this conspiracy on the internet while sitting on the throne reading about your latest Next Door news events. ;D
When it's all said and done, you may find your imaginative "conspiracy theory" was more accurate than you might think.
Why else would there be a massive worldwide pressure for getting 100% of the global population injected for an essentially non-lethal virus of the magnitude of the common cold or flu.
This is completely unprecedented.
What's next, hangnail shots?
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Is Norway anything like Sweden? I just heard on the morning snooze that a large group of young Norway kids got drunk and drove around the country in old buses and cars covered with graffiti and did their best to spread the Virus all over Norway, which has resulted in another surge in the country. Apparently it is a yearly tradition to invigorate kids after a long winter. Sounds like real fun to me. ::) Do they do anything like that in Sweden?
Regarding bizarre conspiracy theories, I just came up with one myself last night: It is my belief that Big Pharma hired that Chinese lab in Wuhan to develop the Corona Virus and spread it around so that they could make billions of dollars selling the vaccine to the world's population - at least the ones that could afford it. ::) And now they plan on getting us hooked on the shots so that we will have to pay big bucks to take a booster shot every year or run the risk of dying. :o They are also paying the world's media to run news stories every night spreading fear about the virus and guilt if you don't get the shot. Feel free to spread this conspiracy on the internet while sitting on the throne reading about your latest Next Door news events. ;D
I don't know much about Norway other than that a cheap VW Golf can cost you 50k$ or more. Importing cars over the border must be impossible otherwise such commie pricing would not be possible.
Swedish youth is predominantly engaged in vandalism, much more to come that's sure. The arab "security" services predominantly scaring the shit out of women to heard everyone in a metro like Stockholm and drive the prices up forever doing their best at it.
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https://tj3dfnkilhgwnb4nln3a2ovwbu-ac5fdsxevxq4s5y-www-expressen-se.translate.goog/nyheter/svenska-pensionspengar--gick-till-internetcensur/
...one possible solution would be to apply one of those high tech products financed by the swedish pensioners. The only issue is someone has to decide the truth.
The Swedish r##ts would of course never used that tech at home.
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" an essentially non-lethal virus of the magnitude of the common cold or flu "
Did you miss the mobile morgues sitting outside the hospitals nation wide? Is that a yearly "normal" event? How do you look at CDC data and conclude C19 has the same mortality factor as a cold? The entire world isn't staging a Hollywood drama for your benefit. The CDC data isn't sculpted to fake you out. Lots of extra deaths really happened, enough to flood the health care system. That's real, it happened, it's still happening but slacking off from increased general vaccine-derived immunity (+50%!) and the normal summer drop in air born respiratory disease transmission. If it was a real "plot" there would have been a much higher kill rate and some opportunistic land/resource grabbing going on whilst the afflicted countries were preoccupied. The "massive worldwide pressure" is a result of folks not wanting to end up drowning in their own fluids. India ran out of medical O2. Brazil's just screwed. Both places are looking at close to 2% mortality, about 1 in 50. Vaccines improve the situation, the folks on the pointed end of the stick would like some relief. The only conspiracies here are folks looking at clear evidence and refusing to make rational choices. Exactly why they choose to do that is apparently something they are unwilling to discuss publicly, that can't be good. January 06 may be instructive as to the "why". Apparently about 44 of the GOP Senate have drunk that Kool-Aid as well and jumped on the bandwagon to have access to the voter pool. The USA is in a bad spot when about 30% of GOP voters think Putin is "an OK Dude". What happened to the GOP? Dumping a hawk like Cheney? Booing Romney? WTF?
https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-republicans-pew-survey-vladimir-putin-1486373
Republicans view Russian President Vladimir Putin around three times as favorably as do Democrats, according to a new analysis of the Pew Research Center's Spring 2019 Global Attitudes Survey. Pew reported on Friday that 31 percent of Republicans have confidence in Putin to do "the right thing" in global affairs, compared with just 10 percent of Democrats. Overall, however, the average of 20 percent of Americans who are inclined to trust Putin constitutes a lower share than in most any other country queried by Pew in the spring 2019 survey.
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The only part not normal was Cuomo deliberately sending those infected elderly patients into the nursing homes to infect all the high risk people with major co-morbidities in there.They would have had the same fate with the flu. Incidentally, many of those early deaths came from the overzealous use of intubations with powered respirators, which were soon stopped when it was found to counterproductive, and was in fact causing deaths.
Overall death statistcs in 2020 were the same as 2019. No statistically significant increase in overall deaths. Also notice flu was nearly invisible because everything was being labeled "covid19" instead. I'll leave it to you to find out why.
If they didn't run panic porn 24/7 on TV, people wouldn't even notice that there even was anything different from normal.
This was a media induced event.
Nobody around here wore masks, nobody social distanced, and nobody got sick. People got vaccinated because of media induced panic.
As for the other countries, they got different viruses which were called "mutations". Mutations most commonly get weaker, not stronger. I'll let you decide how they got the worse viruses over there and not here.
As for "irrational choices", everyone in my extended family in various regions of the country and all age ranges never masked, never social distanced, and did not vax. None ever got sick. None had any adverse vax reaction because they took no vax. In fact, nobody I know ever got sick, and nobody any of them know ever got sick. But we did see a whole lot of scary stuff on TV that we never saw affecting anyone in our real lives. How is it we all escaped this deadly pandemic without following any of the demand and mandates of the ruling class, without so much as a sniffle?
Are we magic, or are there millions just like us, safe and sound without need of any of the hysteria?
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" Overall death statistcs in 2020 were the same as 2019. No statistically significant increase in overall deaths. "
Not by CDC numbers. A 15% increase squares with overloaded hospitals & Refrigerator Trailers used for body storage. I get my stats from the CDC, where do yours originate?
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20approximately%203%2C358%2C814%20deaths,828.7%20deaths%20per%20100%2C000%20population.
In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States. From 2019 to 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9%, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population. COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause of death or a contributing cause of death for an estimated 377,883 (11.3%) of those deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000).
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db395.htm
In 2019, a total of 2,854,838 resident deaths were registered in the United States—15,633 more deaths than in 2018. From 2018 to 2019, the age-adjusted death rate for the total population decreased 1.2%, and life expectancy at birth increased 0.1 year. Age-specific death rates between 2018 and 2019 decreased for age groups 45–54, 65–74, 75–84, and 85 and over, and increased for age group 35–44. Age-adjusted death rates decreased for non-Hispanic black males and females and non-Hispanic white males and females.
Nobody around here wore masks, nobody social distanced, and nobody got sick.
Well, lucky you. Around here we've had about 20 older folks in our local area shuffle off the hard way. In my family my niece's inlaws both got it, as did my nephew and multiple members of their congregation. The inlaws & nephew recovered OK, but you are aware that about 50% of the infected show no symptoms or effects at all, right? They are asymptomatic carriers for the remaining 50% or so that ARE susceptible. Roughly 20% of those infected have a very hard time, about 2% end up in hospital (more than flu, as evidenced by the overcrowded hospitals) and about half of those folks either die or get really "chewed up" by C19.
If you consider people as disposable units, a 1% or 2% death rate is no biggie I guess, insignificant population-wise. But why would you be willing to risk even two of those 100 folks near & dear if there was a methodology available that has essentially zero risk? We're at 2 Billion vaccinated with no statistically significant issues. At the original 2% kill rate with no medical care, like India or Brazil, you could easily have been in the 200,000,000 group that would have been unfazed. But it would have been a real bummer to be in the 6.6 million that didn't make it, or the 10M to 20M that were permanently chewed up by it. It's always good to be the lucky guy, but there's proven available tech for the rest of us.
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That's fine, and they can do what they want to do for themselves. If people are that worried about being infected, they can stay home, wear masks, or do whatever they want.
What I do for myself is up to me.
Quarantining the entire population and shutting down the country because some people might get sick is not how things work. 99% of the population is not at serious risk.
At the most, people visibly sick should be encouraged to self-quarantine(stay home) until better. Those concerned about asymptomatic transmission can stay home if they want. That's how things have always been, and it's the most reasonable course of action.
Heavy-handed gov't intervention was a very poor choice, and it was one of the few things that I disagreed with Trump about. That, along with the whole untested FDA non-approved "emergency authorized" Warp Speed vaccination rollout mistake. In fact, I think the eventual ramifications of those decisions put Biden in the White House.
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BTW my newspaper had an article in it written by Phillip Reese and published by the Sacramento Bee, which says that California residents purchased 920,000 handguns from March 2020 to April 2021. And that is in the state with the toughest gun laws in the country. There were also an additional 183,000 long guns sold during the pandemic lockdown, compared with the previous 14 months. It would seem that the state's residents may not have too much confidence that their police can protect them against criminals taking advantage of the pandemic crisis and are thinking of taking the matter into their own hands. :(
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Still waiting on verifiable stats showing the same number of folks died in 2019 as 2020.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python%27s_Life_of_Brian
Benefits of Government & Society, illustrated by Monty Python sketch "What have the Romans ever done for us" from "The Life of Brian" Discussion at the "Peoples Judean front" meeting regarding the crimes of the Roman Oppressors.
REG: That's just a bar-- a bargaining counter. And of course, we point out that they bear full responsibility when we chop her up, and that we shall not submit to blackmail!
COMMANDOS: No blackmail!
REG: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.
LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.
REG: Yeah.
LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.
REG: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!
XERXES: The aqueduct?
REG: What?
XERXES: The aqueduct.
REG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.
COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.
LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?
REG: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.
MATTHIAS: And the roads.
REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--
COMMANDO: Irrigation.
XERXES: Medicine.
COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh...
COMMANDO #2: Education.
COMMANDOS: Ohh...
REG: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.
COMMANDO #1: And the wine.
COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah...
FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh.
COMMANDO: Public baths.
LORETTA: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.
FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.
COMMANDOS: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
XERXES: Brought peace.
REG: Oh. Peace? Shut up!
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Heavy-handed gov't intervention was a very poor choice, and it was one of the few things that I disagreed with Trump about. That, along with the whole untested FDA non-approved "emergency authorized" Warp Speed vaccination rollout mistake. In fact, I think the eventual ramifications of those decisions put Biden in the White House.
The market saw this freeze of status quo coming, it set an unprecedented chain reaction into motion, everyone wanted to realise their ideas last minute. Now they sell the Ford mustang with an little turbocharged inline four engine, hybrid and only electric. There might be room for all that technology on the market but maybe not something you want to do to the mustang. ::)
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Still waiting on verifiable stats showing the same number of folks died in 2019 as 2020.
" The market saw this freeze of status quo coming" Yeah, sure they did....so Covid19 drove the Ford Mustang automobile engineering design. In 12 months. Cool.
I think we can all agree that we should "Grabbem' by the pu _ _ y." No reason to disagree with an American President about that, sounds like a great reason to vote for him. Also sounds like a great mental state to command nuclear weapons with. That and the clever insistence that "I wuz robbed" despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Yeah, that's the guy for us. Reality, why, just make up your own reality. What could possibly go wrong? Who wouldn't want someone completely divorced from reality as CiC?; apparently the GOP does. "It'll all be over in a month..." What's next, declare Putin the proxy CiC? The outcome of that would be both fascinating & horrifying, but likely Gates & McConnell would get new dachas & ZiL's. We're growing our own Vichy America. Reagan would be so proud...
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::) ...ok fine, no one saw it comming. Basically you don´t deal with "bold" ideas by outlawing them, what you do is let the market work. Speaking for myself they would need to "pay" me to own a electric car.
Why are you obsessed with Putin anyway? Russians seem to be of full support of the "global warming" strategy. I´m glad someone has a solution atleast once all power plants are shut down for the "greater" good in Europe. ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_floating_nuclear_power_station
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I don't remember the source of my stats because I read many articles a day on this subject, and I don't have time to waste searching around.
I'll just say I can't provide it, for the sake of this discussion.
Perhaps the CDC just "adjusted" the numbers to suit their desires, just like they "adjusted" the case numbers with excessive PCR test CT over 40 recommendations that produce mostly false positives. It is my opinion that most of the "asymptomatic cases" are actually not "cases" at all, and were simply false positives resulting from misuse of the PCR test.
I also recall them having to revise their death count down by 94% last year because anything under the sun that showed a positive PCR was ruled death by covid wben it was only death by other causes WITH a positive covid test.
I tbink the situation comes down to this. You seem to think that the establishment tells the truth. I think they lie and are basically criminals. So, when you cite mainstream articles and gov't narratives and figures as "evidence" or supporting statements, to me it's just citing a pack of lies from colluding crooks with an evil agenda who cook their info to deceive the public. I don't blame you for it. Maybe you think they are upstanding individuals. I don't. Call me a "conspiracy theorist" if you want.
That's the crux of it, IMO.
Different world views.
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Still waiting on verifiable stats showing the same number of folks died in 2019 as 2020.
I think we can all agree that we should "Grabbem' by the pu _ _ y." No reason to disagree with an American President about that, sounds like a great reason to vote for him. Also sounds like a great mental state to command nuclear weapons with. That and the clever insistence that "I wuz robbed" despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Yeah, that's the guy for us. Reality, why, just make up your own reality. What could possibly go wrong? Who wouldn't want someone completely divorced from reality as CiC?; apparently the GOP does. "It'll all be over in a month..." What's next, declare Putin the proxy CiC? The outcome of that would be both fascinating & horrifying, but likely Gates & McConnell would get new dachas & ZiL's. We're growing our own Vichy America. Reagan would be so proud...
I don't remember Trump coming and telling everyone to go and make electric vehicles, it was the fraudsters that saw their time coming to a close. Now they own the shit they created, they can clean it. Who would possibly want a job in one of those car companies having to explain everyone that all electric won't work. Not me...
...clearly a job for the overpaid corporate CEOs, talking shit 99% of the time cashing in millions for doing so, maybe they should be joined by the h(b)olywood stars as employees. Can't wait to see the outcome.
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Vaguely remembered sources are not a good basis for decision making. Assuming everyone in authority is a liar & fraudster really narrows your options, as entertaining as it may be. There is no mass collusion against you, there are only a few bad actors. Like every other craft, most folks just try to do their job as best they can.
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" talking shit 99% of the time "
I think you certainly nailed it. ;D ;D ;D
" Why are you obsessed with Putin anyway? Russians seem to be of full support of the "global warming" strategy. "
Uhhh...last I checked Most of their spending cash comes from Gazprom, not Rosatom. As far as Putin, about 30% of the US electorate would vote for him if he was on the ballot. That was mentioned further up this drifty thread. Maybe that's why. That's also why I supply some kind of half-assed documentation, so's y'all won't think I pull all this outta my A _ _ .
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/030315/how-does-price-oil-affect-russias-economy.asp#:~:text=When%20oil%20prices%20drop%2C%20Russia,gross%20domestic%20product%20(GDP).
When oil prices drop, Russia suffers greatly. Oil and gas are responsible for more than 60% of Russia's exports and provide more than 30% of the country's gross domestic product (GDP).
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" I think the situation comes down to this. You seem to think that the establishment tells the truth. I think they lie and are basically criminals. So, when you cite mainstream articles and gov't narratives and figures as "evidence" or supporting statements, to me it's just citing a pack of lies from colluding crooks with an evil agenda who cook their info to deceive the public. "
The more I thought about this, the more sense it makes. It's a demonstrable fact that Trump and his appointees, many criminally indicted, deliberately controlled the narrative, regardless of any deviations from reality and objective data. It's also true that his supporters didn't & still don't care that he blatantly lies. The conclusion I reach is that Trump is just the apex of a self fulfilling prophecy, these voters deliberately elected a leader that gave them the government they envision, i.e., one that lies to you and promotes evil. He was their chance to "prove" that the system is "broken". More chillingly, there is a groundswell of support around initiating the "End Times", and Trump is seen as the key. Right, wrong or indifferent, if 50 million Americans are willing to blow up the country & maybe the world to gain religious "status", that accounts for the shocking lack of concern from Evangelicals regarding Trumps blatantly immoral tenure. They get "bragging rights" that they helped bring on the End Times. The End apparently justifies the Means. This angle has been pursued in more detail by actual investigative reporters.
One real problem here is from the Bible itself: “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." So that puts all this manipulation squarely in the "Rapture" category", that creating the "End Times" or predicting the Rapture isn't really in your wheelhouse. Deliberately electing a criminal to hasten the End Times really isn't a part of that program. Ignoring objective facts & data isn't part of the deal, we're supposed to do the best we can with what we have, and that includes trying to make things better for ourselves and those around us.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-will-bring-about-end-worldevangelicals-end-times-779643
Many have questioned why devout evangelicals support Trump, a man who has bragged about sexual assault, lies perpetually and once admitted he never asks God for forgiveness. Trump's lack of knowledge of the Bible is also well-known.
Nevertheless, many evangelical Christians believe that Trump was chosen by God to usher in a new era, a part of history called the "end times." Beliefs about this time period differ, but it is broadly considered the end of the world, the time when Jesus returns to Earth and judges all people.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/01/evangelicals-are-anticipating-the-end-of-the-world-and-trump-is-listening/
The enemies of Israel have unleashed a massive air attack on the Promised Land. Hundreds of fighter jets streak across the sky. But before Israel can be destroyed, fire rains from the heavens and the enemy jets explode in mid-air with no explanation. Hailstones the size of golf balls follow the fire. The ground shakes. Birds pick clean the bodies of the fallen attackers. The enemy is vanquished without a single Israeli casualty, and the country is saved.
These are some of the opening scenes of the bestselling 1995 book Left Behind: A Novel of the Earth’s Last Days, by Jerry B. Jenkins and the late evangelical minister Tim LaHaye. But don’t mistake this scenario for a mere action sequence: It’s based on the war of Gog and Magog, a biblical conflict prophesied in the Book of Ezekiel. In the Bible, Gog is the leader of Magog, a “place in the far north” that many evangelicals believe is Russia. According to Ezekiel’s prophecy, Gog will join with Persia—now Iran—and other Arab nations to attack a peaceful Israel “like a cloud that covers the land.” LaHaye, like many evangelicals, believed this battle would bring on the Rapture, the End Times event when God spirits away the good Christians to heaven before unleashing plagues, sickness, and other horrors on the unbelievers remaining on Earth. Meanwhile, the Antichrist reigns supreme.
The story of Gog and Magog is central to the bloody eschatology long embraced by millions of American evangelicals. In recent years, End Times has gained special political currency as believers have seen any number of Middle East conflagrations as fulfilling Ezekiel’s prophecy, notably the US invasion of Iraq and the war in Syria. Gog and Magog took on fresh relevance earlier this month, when the Trump administration assassinated Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, the commander of Iran’s elite Quds Force.
On many levels, President Donald Trump’s self-created crisis in Iran seems to have no relationship to any sort of coherent foreign policy or geopolitical plan for the future. The assassination has yielded few if any tangible rewards for the US. But there is an eager constituency for Trump’s improvised policy toward the Middle East and Iran in particular: the evangelical Christians who see it as a means of ushering in the return of Christ. Lured by the promise of conservative Supreme Court justices, anti-abortion measures, and a commitment to Christian supremacy under the guise of religious freedom, white evangelicals voted for Trump in higher numbers than any other group—more than 80 percent.
He desperately needs them if he’s going to be reelected. And while some have expressed concern about the administration’s inching toward war with Iran, many of those with what were once fringe beliefs have cheered the killing of Soleimani. “Iran has this big part to play in biblical history,” says religious historian Diana Butler Bass, who grew up in the evangelical church, attended an evangelical college and seminary, and wrote her Ph.D. thesis at Duke University on American fundamentalism. “There are these particular prophecies from Ezekiel, where there is talk of a war that will happen at a very important moment in Israel’s history. And that war is going to kick off the End Times. People in this prophetic community believe Iran is going to be one of these aggressors.”
Bass thinks this worldview may be central to understanding Trump’s foreign policy. “When Iran gets into the news, especially with anything to do with war, it’s sort of a prophetic dog whistle to evangelicals. They will support anything that seems to edge the world towards this conflagration,” she says. “They don’t necessarily want violence, but they’re eager for Christ to return and they think that this war with Iran and Israel has to happen for their larger hope to pass.”
Not all or even most evangelicals believe in the literal truth of these sorts of prophecies, though nearly 60 percent of white evangelicals, according to one 2010 poll, believe Jesus is definitely or probably going to return by the year 2050. But those who do subscribe to this apocalyptic world view seem to be overrepresented among Trump’s religious supporters and advisers. In October, a host of influential evangelical pastors came to the White House to pray with Trump to protect him from impeachment. Among those who laid hands on the president as he stood, head bowed, in the Oval Office, was repeat visitor Greg Laurie, pastor of a California megachurch. A few days after the killing of Soleimani, Laurie made a YouTube video with Don Stewart, author of 25 Signs We Are Near the End, to discuss Iran and the End Times. “The scenario that the Bible predicted, seemingly so impossible,” Stewart promised, “is now falling into place.”
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In a general context, there is something to the subject matter covered in your post. There are some religious factions with those types of ideas regarding "end times".
However, no serious Christian actually thinks that they can manipulate things in the geopolitical landscape which can somehow push God into adjusting the timeline. Anyone thinking that is truly misguided, and I personally think that it is a small minority who might actually try to make that happen.
However, there is a contingent of Jewish people, perhaps also small, who want to get the 3rd Temple built to receive their Messiah, which is obviously not consistent with Christian doctrine at all, but still revolves around end times events. Jared Kushner had a large part in the activities involving Israel, and could have been very influential in that regard.
My feeling about the Trump supporters was that the Israel or end times issue was not the prime mover in his election, and many "evangelicals" actually stayed home and didn't vote for Trump because of moral concerns. I live in the "Bible Belt" and that sentiment was visible here, even though he did carry this state.
IMO, Trump won his election due to his populist "outsider" appeal with a rough streetfighter personality, and a general rejection of his opponent Hillary Clinton.
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I can't speak to serious Christians, but consistently near 80% of Evangelicals voted for Trump.
I'm not finding anything that says less total Evangelicals voted in 2020, but 5% went over to Biden.
Jews account for only about 2% of US voters, statistically not too useful. Across the board they voted against Trump 2:1.
Third Temple is espoused by a small minority of a minority, and has a lot of practical issues blocking any possibility.
I think it's fairly clear that people were tired of the theatrics & general craziness.
We have a long road back to "normalcy". We need all hands on deck, willing to objectively take stock, figure out where we are and get things working again. This internecine warfare only benefits the "OpFor" out there waiting for us to self-destruct.
An opposing force (alternatively enemy force, abbreviated OPFOR)
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/08/932263516/2020-faith-vote-reflects-2016-patterns
A notable fact in 2016 was that exit polls showed about 80% of white evangelical Christians supported Trump in spite of his unfamiliarity with the Bible, his divorces, his vulgar rhetoric and his association with porn stars. Trump's reputation in moral terms hasn't changed all that much during his time in office, but there is little evidence of slippage among these faith voters.
Surveys of early voters and exit polls this year showed between 76 and 81% of white evangelical and "born again" voters supporting Trump, according to the National Election Pool and AP/Votecast.
"We essentially have White evangelicals, somewhere around 8 in 10, supporting the president, standing by their candidate, standing by their man," says Jones.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/01/white-evangelical-approval-of-trump-slips-but-eight-in-ten-say-they-would-vote-for-him/
Amid rising coronavirus cases and widespread protests over racial injustice, President Donald Trump’s approval rating has dropped among a wide range of religious groups, including white evangelical Protestants – though they remain strongly supportive.
Roughly seven-in-ten white evangelical Protestants (72%) say they approve of the way Trump is handling his job, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted June 16 to 22. That is a 6 percentage point drop from 78% recorded in April, in line with the 5-point drop during that period among U.S. adults overall.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/exit-polls-point-to-trump-gains-among-jewish-voters/
A survey from The Associated Press’s VoteCast showed that Trump won 30% of the Jewish vote, compared to 69% for Biden. This was six percentage points higher than his performance in 2016, when he won 24% of the Jewish vote, compared to Hillary Clinton’s 71%, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted at the time.
The AP national survey polled 110,000 Americans with 3,300 of them being Jewish by self-definition. Its margin of error was 0.4 percentage points.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-campaign-jewish-vote-numbers/jewish-voters-by-the-numbers-idUSBRE86N05Z20120724
National Jewish population: About 2 percent of the U.S. population, with estimates ranging from 5.5 million to 6.5 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Temple
Obstacles
The most immediate and obvious obstacle to realization of these goals is the fact that two historic Islamic structures which are 13 centuries old, namely the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, are built on top of the Temple Mount. Any efforts to damage or reduce access to these sites, or to build Jewish structures within, between, beneath, beside, cantilevered on top of, or instead of them, could lead to severe international conflicts, given the association of the Muslim world with these holy places.[19]
The Dome of the Rock is regarded as occupying the actual space where the Second Temple once stood, but some scholars disagree and instead claim that the Temple was located either just north of the Dome of the Rock, or about 200 meters south of it, with access to the Gihon fresh water spring, or perhaps between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque.[citation needed]
In addition, most Orthodox Jewish scholars reject any attempts to build the Temple before the coming of Messiah. This is because there are many doubts as to the exact location in which it is required to be built. For example, while measurements are given in cubits, there exists a controversy whether this unit of measurement equals approximately 45 or 60 cm (1+1⁄2 or 2 ft).[citation needed] Without exact knowledge of the size of a cubit, the altar could not be built. The Talmud recounts that the building of the Second Temple was only possible under the direct prophetic guidance of Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi. Without valid prophetic revelation, it would be impossible to rebuild the Temple, even if the mosques no longer occupied its location.
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I’m an old timer here , haven’t posted much lately.
But when Ace speaks , I listen.
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Vaguely remembered sources are not a good basis for decision making. Assuming everyone in authority is a liar & fraudster really narrows your options, as entertaining as it may be. There is no mass collusion against you, there are only a few bad actors. Like every other craft,most folks just try to do their job as best they can.
Exactly. Than there is specialisation, unless in S... where everyone is supposed to be able to work with everything and jobs are not jobs but just a "role". Their insane equality understanding.
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I can't speak to serious Christians, but consistently near 80% of Evangelicals voted for Trump.
I'm not finding anything that says less total Evangelicals voted in 2020, but 5% went over to Biden.
Jews account for only about 2% of US voters, statistically not too useful. Across the board they voted against Trump 2:1.
Third Temple is espoused by a small minority of a minority, and has a lot of practical issues blocking any possibility.
I think it's fairly clear that people were tired of the theatrics & general craziness.
We have a long road back to "normalcy". We need all hands on deck, willing to objectively take stock, figure out where we are and get things working again. This internecine warfare only benefits the "OpFor" out there waiting for us to self-destruct.
An opposing force (alternatively enemy force, abbreviated OPFOR)
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/08/932263516/2020-faith-vote-reflects-2016-patterns
A notable fact in 2016 was that exit polls showed about 80% of white evangelical Christians supported Trump in spite of his unfamiliarity with the Bible, his divorces, his vulgar rhetoric and his association with porn stars. Trump's reputation in moral terms hasn't changed all that much during his time in office, but there is little evidence of slippage among these faith voters.
Surveys of early voters and exit polls this year showed between 76 and 81% of white evangelical and "born again" voters supporting Trump, according to the National Election Pool and AP/Votecast.
"We essentially have White evangelicals, somewhere around 8 in 10, supporting the president, standing by their candidate, standing by their man," says Jones.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/01/white-evangelical-approval-of-trump-slips-but-eight-in-ten-say-they-would-vote-for-him/
Amid rising coronavirus cases and widespread protests over racial injustice, President Donald Trump’s approval rating has dropped among a wide range of religious groups, including white evangelical Protestants – though they remain strongly supportive.
Roughly seven-in-ten white evangelical Protestants (72%) say they approve of the way Trump is handling his job, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted June 16 to 22. That is a 6 percentage point drop from 78% recorded in April, in line with the 5-point drop during that period among U.S. adults overall.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/exit-polls-point-to-trump-gains-among-jewish-voters/
A survey from The Associated Press’s VoteCast showed that Trump won 30% of the Jewish vote, compared to 69% for Biden. This was six percentage points higher than his performance in 2016, when he won 24% of the Jewish vote, compared to Hillary Clinton’s 71%, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted at the time.
The AP national survey polled 110,000 Americans with 3,300 of them being Jewish by self-definition. Its margin of error was 0.4 percentage points.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-campaign-jewish-vote-numbers/jewish-voters-by-the-numbers-idUSBRE86N05Z20120724
National Jewish population: About 2 percent of the U.S. population, with estimates ranging from 5.5 million to 6.5 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Temple
Obstacles
The most immediate and obvious obstacle to realization of these goals is the fact that two historic Islamic structures which are 13 centuries old, namely the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, are built on top of the Temple Mount. Any efforts to damage or reduce access to these sites, or to build Jewish structures within, between, beneath, beside, cantilevered on top of, or instead of them, could lead to severe international conflicts, given the association of the Muslim world with these holy places.[19]
The Dome of the Rock is regarded as occupying the actual space where the Second Temple once stood, but some scholars disagree and instead claim that the Temple was located either just north of the Dome of the Rock, or about 200 meters south of it, with access to the Gihon fresh water spring, or perhaps between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque.[citation needed]
In addition, most Orthodox Jewish scholars reject any attempts to build the Temple before the coming of Messiah. This is because there are many doubts as to the exact location in which it is required to be built. For example, while measurements are given in cubits, there exists a controversy whether this unit of measurement equals approximately 45 or 60 cm (1+1⁄2 or 2 ft).[citation needed] Without exact knowledge of the size of a cubit, the altar could not be built. The Talmud recounts that the building of the Second Temple was only possible under the direct prophetic guidance of Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi. Without valid prophetic revelation, it would be impossible to rebuild the Temple, even if the mosques no longer occupied its location.
I would point out that there is a difference between evangelicals voting mostly for Trump, and those expecting a politically engineered drive to usher in the second coming of Christ.
Evangelicals do have other issues which relate to their voting choices. I take no issue with the majority of evangelicals voting for Trump. I think they made a very good choice. I voted for Trump twice, and would like to see him back in office..
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From reading this thread is starting to sound to me like THE END IS NEAR! :o (One can only hope. ;) )
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" I would point out that there is a difference between evangelicals voting mostly for Trump, and those expecting a politically engineered drive to usher in the second coming of Christ.
Evangelicals do have other issues which relate to their voting choices. I take no issue with the majority of evangelicals voting for Trump. I think they made a very good choice. I voted for Trump twice, and would like to see him back in office.."
Other that pretending to be a "strong man" and saying what Evangelicals wanted to hear to garner their votes, he's demonstrably the antithesis of Christian values. This is clearly "ends justify the means" voting. I'm certain that isn't the message of scripture. I'm also certain that the implications of voting for Trump didn't escape most voters. It certainly didn't escape the Evangelical leadership, as was evinced previously. Now that the hole is dug, it's going to be difficult climb back out. As Texas Governor Ann Richards said, "If your hair's white, you can't say you don't know it."
https://applygodsword.com/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-ends-justifying-the-means/#:~:text=The%20Bible%20is%20very%20clear,ends%20never%20justify%20sinful%20means.&text=Rather%20than%20go%20through%20every,on%20God%20and%20his%20grace.
Because you relied on the king of Syria, and did not rely on the LORD your God, the army of the king of Syria has escaped you.-2Chronicles 16:7
Does the Bible say that the ends justify the means? In other words, does God care about what we accomplish for him, how we accomplish it, or both? The Bible is very clear that in God’s eyes, the ends never justify sinful means.
God doesn’t just want us focusing on results, even when these goals are good. God cares how we accomplish these results. Rather than go through every bad way of doing God’s will, it is much easier to talk about the right way. The right way to accomplish a good thing is always by relying on God and his grace.
https://theintercept.com/2020/05/23/coronavirus-evangelical-megachurch-trump/
“THE COVID VIRUS has been a gift from God,” began Ken Eldred. “The kingdom of God advances through a series of glorious victories, cleverly disguised as disasters.”
In response to the coronavirus pandemic, Eldred noted, millions of Americans are turning to Christ, Walmart is selling out of Bibles, and online church broadcasts have hit record numbers.
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Please forgive me for noticing, but Trump's personality shortcomings don't begin to compare with the massive pit of immorality that is the Democrat Party.
They had basically 2 choices. It wasn't difficult.
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I have just been reminded that this is National Doughnut Day in the U.S. Likely also in California, where they make their donuts out of gluten-free sustainable fish meal and seaweed. ::)
I bet they don't have a national doughnut day in Sweden. ;) The Swedes don't know what they are missing. ;D
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I have just been reminded that this is National Doughnut Day in the U.S. Likely also in California, where they make their donuts out of gluten-free sustainable fish meal and seaweed. ::)
I bet they don't have a national doughnut day in Sweden. ;) The Swedes don't know what they are missing. ;D
I took advantage of National Cheeseburger Day last week. I'll also enjoy National Doughnut Day today too.
I like National things. I'm a Nationalist.
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Well the Swedish apparently hate their own traditions so much that they have to import foreigners to uphold them.
I certainly don't know if religion needs to be something that's part of a government. Looking at our CDU (Christian Democratic Union) and Mrs. Merkel being the Head of it maybe that party has come into place to exploit Christians and their willingness to contribute to society. Mrs. Merkel is grown up in the DDR, sure is atheist herself and apparently inclined to recreate that DDR which would be a "security" and "control" state.
A human just can't exist in a spacetime where you can't trust anything, Swedish are probably most advanced in that dehumanisation process. I rather surround myself with a bunch of assholes than robots.
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@ 284, 289: So you are all good with the ends justifying the means. Welcome to the very OpFor you railed against.
"A human just can't exist in a spacetime where you can't trust anything,"
When you voluntarily create such a space instead of working to fix what you had, how is "trust" still a real issue?
" maybe that party has come into place to exploit Christians and their willingness to contribute to society "
So if following Christian doctrine isn't where the Evangelicals are, how are they still to be considered Christians? CINO's?
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2011-sep-13-la-pn-ron-paul-gop-debate-20110913-story.html
Support at GOP debate for letting the uninsured die
“That’s what freedom is all about: taking your own risks.,” Ron Paul said, repeating the standard libertarian view as some in the audience cheered.
“But congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die,” Blitzer asked.
“Yeah,” came the shout from the audience. That affirmative was repeated at least three times.
That's certainly the attitude I see locally amongst many "Christian Folk", pure "Us vs. Them".
"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius." Is this where we are now?
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Man, I don't even know where to start!
What ends justified what means?
What in the world are you talking about?
As for the Wolf Blitzer's attempt at a weak "gotcha" question to RP, the answer is very simple.
It is the duty of family or charity to care for indigents. Those who choose to not have insurance made their own choice, not "society". The gov't has no duty or authorization to provide insurance for anybody.
BTW, I voted for Ron Paul in the primary 2008 and 2012, and for Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party in the 2008 general election. Wrote in Ron Paul in 2012. I would never vote for McCain or Romney.
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https://youtu.be/8elv8N91Bm4
Could you just reimport that guy back home and teach him some Christian values? Please.
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What ends justified what means?
What we've been talking about for a while here - deliberately voting into office a self-involved opportunistic misogynistic playboy to achieve a more theistic government. Using the polar opposite of your biblical values to further your cause.
It is the duty of family or charity to care for indigents.
So if you end up robbed, penniless, unconscious under a bridge 1000 miles from home mostly beat to death, the Ladies Home Auxiliary will hold a bake sale?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_care
In the United States, charity care is health care provided for free or at reduced prices to low income patients.[1] The percentage of doctors providing charity care dropped from 76% in 1996-97 to 68% in 2004-2005. Potential reasons for the decline include changes in physician practice patterns and increasing financial pressures.[2] In 2006, Senate investigators found that many hospitals did not inform patients that charity care was available. Some for-profit hospitals provided as much charity care as some non-profit hospitals. Investigators also found non-profit hospitals charging poor, uninsured patients more than they did patients with health insurance.[3]
Those who choose to not have insurance made their own choice, not "society".
A choice between eating, rent & health care is a helluva thing, but it happens when you get laid off in a recession. Diabetes & other meds aren't free. So people with chronic health conditions are supposed to be happy to be "called home" when their ability to get meds stops? Who drives the body collection carts, the ambulance folks weren't too excited about that duty during the C19 peaks.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/2020/coverage-options-laid-off-workers
Did You Lose Your Health Insurance Because of the Coronavirus Pandemic? Coverage Options for Laid-Off Workers and Others
The gov't has no duty or authorization to provide insurance for anybody.
This might come as quite a shock to the VA and Congress.
Sounds like as long as you personally are doing well, too bad for everyone else. Stay lucky or crawl away under a bush & die. Nice.
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Who said anything about a theistic government? This gov't is as far from theistic as is humanly posdible at this point. Trump did not make it any more theistic, regardless of what some may have thought or wanted.
People in this country can vote for anyone they want to, for any reason they want to. Maybe some thought he was better than Satan's minion on the Dem side of the ticket? Could be.
And that "playboy" for any/all of his faults is offered the same forgiveness of sins as any other Christian, none of which are perfect in the last ~2000 years or so.
The "cause" is to stop and reverse the progression of leftist policies in this country, not establish theistic gov't.
Yes, a bake sale might help.
Beggars take what is offered by those who can help. There is no shortage of help for those who truly need. The "victim card" is a stale ploy. It always gets trotted out to try to elicit an emotional response, hoping to override a logical decision.
Everybody is responsible for their own well-being. Fall down, and people will help. Lay down and expect a free ride from gov't tax welfare because you failed to prepare for unexpected life events, not so much.
If I am doing fine, it's because I worked to make it that way, and I have seen my share of unforseen hardships. There's a lesson in there.
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Here's a good piece on the hypocrisy of voting for Trump. It illustrates the transactional nature of ignoring Trump's immorality to gain the new Supreme Court makeup, which will legislate more in keeping with Evangelical values, i.e. theocratic values.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/the-evangelical-movements-bad-bargain/616760/
The less gullible or more cynical evangelicals view Trump transactionally. Trump may be using evangelicals to advance his aims, but they are also using Trump to advance their aims. (Many evangelicals have grown enamored with Trump’s relentless attacks and aggression, believing that he is inflicting wounds on those who deserve to be wounded.) The president might not be a model Christian in his personal life, they admit, but he delivers what they want, which is power and influence.
In no area is that more true than in the judiciary, where Trump has placed two conservative justices on the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, and, absent anything unforeseen, will end his first term having added a third, Amy Coney Barrett. Say what you will about Trump’s ethical failures, his evangelical supporters insist, on the issue that matters most to them, Trump has been spectacular.
The transaction, from their perspective, is better than they could have hoped for. Trump has reshaped the federal judiciary, particularly compared with what would have happened if Hillary Clinton had been president, and nothing else Trump has done—no moral line he has crossed, no offense he has committed—can take away from his achievements in this area.
But if politically conservative evangelicals have things they can rightly claim to have won, what has been lost?
For starters, by overlooking and excusing the president’s staggering array of personal and public corruptions, Trump’s evangelical supporters have forfeited the right to ever again argue that character counts in America’s political leaders. They might try, but if they do, they will be met with belly laughs. It’s not that their argument is invalidated; it is that because of their glaring hypocrisy, they have sabotaged their credibility in making the argument.
The conservative evangelical David French has reminded us that in 1998, during the Bill Clinton–Monica Lewinsky scandal, the Southern Baptist Convention passed a “Resolution on Moral Character of Public Officials,” declaring that it was wrong to “excuse or overlook immoral or illegal conduct by unrepentant public officials so long as economic prosperity prevails,” because “tolerance of serious wrong by leaders sears the conscience of the culture, spawns unrestrained immorality and lawlessness in the society, and surely results in God’s judgment.”
It further affirmed that “moral character matters to God and should matter to all citizens, especially God’s people, when choosing public leaders,” and “implore[d] our government leaders to live by the highest standards of morality both in their private actions and in their public duties, and thereby serve as models of moral excellence and character.”
The carefully choreographed dance goes like this: Moral character in public officials matters quite a lot when the public officials who morally fail are Democrats; it matters hardly at all when they are Republicans. If it’s a liberal who has crossed ethical lines, emphasize righteous conduct; if it’s a conservative, emphasize forgiveness and verses like “Judge not lest you be judged.” If it’s Bill Clinton in the dock, savage him; if it’s Donald Trump, savage his critics.
But the problem goes far beyond an inconsistent application of a biblical ethic. What the Trump years have exposed is something more fundamental, which is that many evangelical Christians have not brought anything distinctively Christian to politics.
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W were a little less deep in the UK.
We saw a choice of 'Hillary' and 'Not Hillary'.
Most of the people I talked to weren't surprised that 'Not Hillary' won.
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Well that's nice.
Their opinion and 5 bucks will get a double mocha latte' at Starbucks.
Thanks for reminding me that The Atlantic is still just as worthless as always. Not to mention those other fish wraps that you have been quoting. We don't really care what leftist writers think about us. We know their game.
I appreciate your efforts but you have about as much chance of swaying my position as moving the sun into another galaxy. I will continue to work diligently to vote people into office who will dismantle every aspect of the progressive agenda for as long as I breathe air,... just in case I wasn't clear.
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I don't believe in charity and would not put a cent in one ever again. You pay 60% taxation on any job you pick up in Europe. Not counting the charity you have to contribute to the already immense waterheads that occupy privileged positions in those socialist corporates and motherships.
If you work 20 years, you worked 12 years for charity. In the meantime the risk equity companies stuff their money to the cayman islands and in software development to create Internet censorship to promote dictatorships in Europe. Now with the covid emergency treatment they effectively turned the countries of Europe into concentration camps.
I plan to contribute exactly 12 years of zero ecomic value to this fine society, after that it most likely going to be china running the show, we doing them a favour by handicapping ourselves with the "green" ideology that makes everything impossible and is about outlawing everything only.
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I don't believe in charity and would not put a cent in one ever again. You pay 60% taxation on any job you pick up in Europe. Not counting the charity you have to contribute to the already immense waterheads that occupy privileged positions in those socialist corporates and motherships.
If you work 20 years, you worked 12 years for charity. In the meantime the risk equity companies stuff their money to the cayman islands and in software development to create Internet censorship to promote dictatorships in Europe. Now with the covid emergency treatment they effectively turned the countries of Europe into concentration camps.
I plan to contribute exactly 12 years of zero ecomic value to this fine society, after that it most likely going to be china running the show, we doing them a favour by handicapping ourselves with the "green" ideology that makes everything impossible and is about outlawing everything only.
Yes, it's sad that they take so much tax, so that money for private donations is almost eliminated. Maybe it would be better to eliminate the gov't instead of the charity.
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It doesn't seem to be possible, companies like Bosch need that big government to make that ABS mandatory on everything that moves.
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It doesn't seem to be possible, companies like Bosch need that big government to make that ABS mandatory on everything that moves.
+1 ;D
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https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/53072/1/asap-rocky-release-doc-swedish-arrest-stockholm-syndrome-tribeca-film-festival
I am pretty keen to watch this docu, after a decade in that place i´m convinced that the swedish jails are full with victimes who have been harrased to do something stupid. Everything is opposite in that country what anyone might concider normal....
...maybe if they released all the inmates and put everyone in the jail who moves free most of their issues might be solved. ::)
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Years ago I was disappointed to find out the Swedish Bikini Team was not “real”. Newer Swedish cars are too complicated to work on. And I could use an authentic Swedish Meatball recipe.
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Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yër?
See the løveli lakes The wøndërful telephøne system And mäni interesting furry animals
Including the majestik møøse. *
* Møøse trained by YUTTE HERMSGERVØRDENBRØTBØRDA Special Møøse Effects OLAF PROT Møøse Costumes SIGGI CHURCHILLMøøse Choreographed by HORST PROT III Miss Taylor's Møøses by HENGST DOUGLAS-HOME Møøse trained to mix concrete and sign complicated insurance forms by JURGEN WIGG Møøses' noses wiped by BJØRN IRKESTØM-SLATER WALKER Large møøse on the left hand side of the screen in the third scene from the end, given a thorough grounding in Latin, French and "O" Level Geography by BO BENN Suggestive poses for the Møøse suggested by VIC ROTTER Antler-care by LIV THATCHER
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urRkGvhXc8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcbR1J_4ICg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urRkGvhXc8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcbR1J_4ICg
2017 I had a visit of 3 arabic crussaiders with orthodox cross tattoos after putting a motorcycle for sale on their local craiglist, showing intresst at first, usually they call themselves Atila, Hanibal and Mohamed. It turned out they were mainly intressted in telling me that there are not many people around with my background, what do you do with that information?
Stock up your guns!!!
A more authentic swedish bikini team pic. attached.
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https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=sv&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2Fnyheter%2Fkrim%2Fmaklare-och-bankkvinna-anhallna-i-jatteharva%2F
https://it5j4jzud6j7fk6tvs4tdwy2s4-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-www-expressen-se.translate.goog/nyheter/krim/100-bolag-kopplas-till-kriminella-klaner-/
...some insights, so much of fun. ::)
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I certainly want to "SEE" all their clothes striped off and ther "NUTS" eaten alive, exactly the way they do it with their customers. Including that Cristian Democrats, their big enablers. That will be a pretty show. :)
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Wow! This thread is kind of spinning out of control. :o
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Wow! This thread is kind of spinning out of control. :o
I don't know, there is something definitely strange with their bankruptcy laws, some people appear to be able to get credit indefinitely while others don't. Which leads to solutions like this...
https://5bcgc6a2egqf2h7dugchj7vjj4-ac5fdsxevxq4s5y-www-aftonbladet-se.translate.goog/nyheter/krim/a/M3O98M/39-arig-krogare-mordad-vid-gym--polisen-vadjar-om-tips
...the fun is about to start. The cheapest house in that community that resembles a dog shed sold for 300k$, and it's not even california, it's a sinkhole worce than that. ;D
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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSS8N2JI07P
WOW - something is happening against that mob rule at least, apparently it takes the FBI & Europol to do a little bit of crime prevention.
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I don't know, there is something definitely strange with their bankruptcy laws, some people appear to be able to get credit indefinitely while others don't. Which leads to solutions like this...
https://5bcgc6a2egqf2h7dugchj7vjj4-ac5fdsxevxq4s5y-www-aftonbladet-se.translate.goog/nyheter/krim/a/M3O98M/39-arig-krogare-mordad-vid-gym--polisen-vadjar-om-tips
...the fun is about to start. The cheapest house in that community that resembles a dog shed sold for 300k$, and it's not even california, it's a sinkhole worce than that. ;D
Two homes on my street just down the block recently sold for $1.6 and $1.7 million. Before the pandemic started similar homes were selling for $1.1 million. A couple of years before that they were selling for $850K. In 1971, when they were first built, they sold for 35K. Who can afford prices like that? I know that I couldn't. It is no wonder that people who don't have jobs and need somewhere to live are buying old motor homes and parking them on the public streets to have a place to live. :(
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They effectively shut down all builders, manufacturers, now pubs, selling anything is evil because there could be some money involved. This police, FBI & Europol show is going to scare the shit out of everyone, legitimate companies more so than the criminal networks. What a mess.
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Wow! This thread is kind of spinning out of control. :o
Indeed. 21 pages and counting it seems to have become the eternally-stinking dumpster fire of the 'Campfire Section.' Even its subject line "Sweden and California" should have forewarned those mystically-minded among us that this was gonna be a protracted and often unpleasant shit show, it being an anagram of "Snide Anal Wind Force".
Still, it's reassuring to check in here from time to time, huh? Sure, I might be a little nuts, but I'm not "railing against those red herring-gorged tundra monkeys" nuts.
(https://i.gifer.com/origin/18/18e8ca7b3f6e2ffc760f35e7f0a07eef_w200.gif)
Ablaze with Nordic Øømpf!
Don't follow too closely.
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It's the red planners, not the herrings. ;D ...the red planners are planning the red herrings out of existence, well they plan everything out of existance it seems.
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It's the red planners, not the herrings. ;D ...the red planners are planning the red herrings out of existence, well they plan everything out of existance it seems.
Depends who you ask...
(https://i.giphy.com/media/lPuW5AlR9AeWzSsIqi/giphy.webp)
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(https://americaexplained.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/red_herring2.gif)
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Well they want to build now Swedish refugee camps in Africa, I suppose anyone who still has a job is going to move there now voluntarily. Everything is free in Sweden, unless you work and/or have some cash to pay.
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My first job after being discharged from the Air Force in 1969 was working for a civil engineer in Daly City, CA. One of his engineers was from Sweden. He told us that he came to the U.S. to make his fortune and so that whatever he made wouldn't be taxed to death by the Swedish government. However, he did plan to retire in Sweden because they had such generous retirement benefits. ;) I guess you could say that he had the system figured out. ;D
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I would not recommend to anyone to retire in Sweden. The part of population that's got not much to do and no money, young and old, have discovered the psychological warfare, beer cans, cigarettes, food, cars, everything can be used as a tool of symbolism. These groups serve what they would call "beer", if they work in groups or are coordinated than they are even more dangerous. If you retire there and don't have strong backing in another group or are not a member of one of those clans you will die pretty soon on hart attack or similar. There is never evidence.
Kamprad the fouder of IKEA lasted a year or so after returning to Sweden, it's a fu@#ing society. Well maybe this EUROPOL & FBI coordinated Trojan shield will break up the coordination of those groups atleast? One can only hope.
By the way most of these who figured it, move abroad for retirement, Spain or Thailand are popular destinations. These retireries usually continue to do the fu@#$ing to unsuspecting young people predominantly with good paying jobs so that their assets can be seized and turned over to state property = more retirement monies so they think at least. You know what to call them.... ;)
So yes, they "DON'T" have a market, you could call it a cannibalising market built up by envy of everything and they call it paradise. And yes, they concider everyone who speaks up a "girl". It's a quiet place. ;D
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The fellow that I knew emigrated to the U.S. during the mid-1950's and planned to retire to Sweden before 1980. I wouldn't be surprised if things were better back then.
BTW, we worked for a really cheap Russian who loved to employ displaced persons from central Europe as they worked really hard and rarely asked for a raise. The Swedish engineer said that he only received a 25 cent increase in his hourly pay when he received his state civil engineering registration. At the time I was making $3.25 an hour as a engineering draftsman. When asked about the company's retirement plan, he told us that our retirement plan was our last paycheck. (What a guy. ::) ) My, how things changed when I started working for the local city government. The time of big salaries and big retirement plans had arrived. ;D
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Lucky you, 1980 Sweden was probably ok although the various Sekts must have existed back than already. The state sure was in better shape.
Those days in Sweden if you hold a job like you did back than you will have to excuse yourself that you costed the company/government so much of money, leave your work behind, donate to Gretas foundation and disappear. ;)
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Depends who you ask...
(https://i.giphy.com/media/lPuW5AlR9AeWzSsIqi/giphy.webp)
(https://i.giphy.com/media/E1UskRbX93Y2Y/giphy.webp)
(https://americaexplained.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/red_herring2.gif)
There probably is something to that red herring storry, a shirt might be too expensive and may not be needed in red herring land.
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In related news, the Swedish Chef from the muppets is apparently actually Norwegian ...
https://slate.com/culture/2012/08/swedish-chef-what-do-swedes-think-of-him-they-think-he-sounds-norwegian.html
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In related news, the Swedish Chef from the muppets is apparently actually Norwegian ...
https://slate.com/culture/2012/08/swedish-chef-what-do-swedes-think-of-him-they-think-he-sounds-norwegian.html
That's no surprise, only holy spirits live in sweden, that muppet chef may not suite the worldview. However that chocolate on the moose looks very swedish to me.
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Speaking of chocolate, I saw on the TV news last night that a business back east is dipping cicadas in chocolate and selling them as snacks. The news said that the store had a 5-day backup of orders. Right at the end of the report, the newswoman said, Ugh, she wouldn't want to eat one of those bugs, chocolate-covered or not. I am with her on that. ;)
I bet red herrings dipped in chocolate aren't any better. ::)
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I dunno...I mean I could quite possibly eat my own weight in shrimp, which are no less "arthropody"--maybe even more so than cicadas. But I'd have to be pretty damned peckish to commence chowing down on a plateful of those "Ree!--Ree!...Ree!" emitters.
(https://img1.looper.com/img/gallery/heres-what-bubba-from-forrest-gump-is-up-to-now/l-intro-1612130289.jpg)
"There's Cicada Creole, Coconut Cicada, Cicada Cocktail, Pineapple Cicada, Cicada Roll, Cicada Fried Rice, Popcorn Cicada, Cicada Gumbo, Cicada Toast..."
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Speaking of chocolate, I saw on the TV news last night that a business back east is dipping cicadas in chocolate and selling them as snacks. The news said that the store had a 5-day backup of orders. Right at the end of the report, the newswoman said, Ugh, she wouldn't want to eat one of those bugs, chocolate-covered or not. I am with her on that. ;)
I bet red herrings dipped in chocolate aren't any better. ::)
I wouldn't want chocolate on the moose either, with some convincing I might try it. If you lived in Sweden though the progressive perverts over there might find a way to make you eat that cikados, it's always a matter of choice.
Get vaccinated or wear a mask. - J.B. ;)
How about an option 3?
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I dunno...I mean I could quite possibly eat my own weight in shrimp, which are no less "arthropody"--maybe even more so than cicadas. But I'd have to be pretty damned peckish to commence chowing down on a plateful of those "Ree!--Ree!...Ree!" emitters.
(https://img1.looper.com/img/gallery/heres-what-bubba-from-forrest-gump-is-up-to-now/l-intro-1612130289.jpg)
"There's Cicada Creole, Coconut Cicada, Cicada Cocktail, Pineapple Cicada, Cicada Roll, Cicada Fried Rice, Popcorn Cicada, Cicada Gumbo, Cicada Toast..."
A song for Bilgemaster...
...it's about the "red herring" I believe. :D
https://youtu.be/GbfeH6Q8PzY
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Ääh...Vielen Dank?
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Ääh...Vielen Dank?
Well, any project you run there might be some "children". ;)
....many might be wanting to put themselves in "control" of things they don´t even understand. ::)
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The future largest private projects in Sweden as was the case in the GDR might be planting carrots on the balcony of your panel building since the state owns everything and everybody.
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So what's Germany up to? You know, where you live?
https://practiceguides.chambers.com/practice-guides/investing-in-2021/sweden/trends-and-developments
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/energy-transition-index-2020-eti-clean-sustainable-power/
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So what's Germany up to? You know, where you live?
https://practiceguides.chambers.com/practice-guides/investing-in-2021/sweden/trends-and-developments
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/energy-transition-index-2020-eti-clean-sustainable-power/
The government has appointed the Swedish Security Service and the Swedish Armed Forces as the primary competent enforcement authorities.
...so if a company produces a petrol vehicle in Sweden they will get shot? They clearly trying to enforce something there and don't know what, all the inhabitants of Sweden seem to be on a watch list 24/7.
I have no reason to trust anything that comes from there. I'm not at all inclined to work for "fun" & "honour" - because it's "NOT" sustainable. ;)
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https://amp-svt-se.translate.goog/nyheter/inrikes/underrattelsechefen-sveriges-anvandare-stack-ut?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv
...they've got nothing better to do it seems. Here is your Swedish Heros who may not have qualified for the "Bikini Team", which is why they hate everyone in that country.
It's the same story in their companies, they will monitor you 24/7 even in your spare time. Than preach about the violation of human rights in China, that probably is a humanitarian power force comperatively. Where is their constitution, where is it enforced?
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Speaking of China, are Swedes still assembling Volvos? Or are they now being built in the land of the cost-cutting experts, where working overtime and social services are not such a big concern?
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Speaking of China, are Swedes still assembling Volvos? Or are they now being built in the land of the cost-cutting experts, where working overtime and social services are not such a big concern?
Volvo passenger cars has been bought by a guy called Li Shufu. Some chinese sob who supposedly is a kid of poor chinese farmers and through his brilliance became a billionaire making cheap Mercedes and Audi coppies in China heaving the "big" dream in mind to become an asian "Mercedes Benz" alike manufacturer.
HA-HA, most likely just a Chinese commie party representative.
Volvos sure get assembled in Sweden, most of the components might be bought on Alibaba, which doesn't seem to make them any more affordable.
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...so if a company produces a petrol vehicle in Sweden they will get shot?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/8d/b4/218db4a1c5b7da0aff4fc7cb1e8a61db.jpg)
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The "Swedish" might consider themselves the police of Europe or something, entitled to tell everyone what they should be doing. Best wenn locked inside their ZOO.
You know what they say when commies get in control of the desert?
Now their detainees have to share prison beds. :o
Looking at the prison picture it looks better than their hotels rooms where they charge you atleast 200$ a night.
https://www-aftonbladet-se.translate.goog/nyheter/a/39rqEd/larmet-fran-kriminalvarden-haktade-tvingas-dela-sang?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv
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"entitled to tell everyone what they should be doing" might apply to a few Germans also. Did you get your jab yet? ;D ;D ;D
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"entitled to tell everyone what they should be doing" might apply to a few Germans also. Did you get your jab yet? ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure when I need it I can fix that QR code somehow in that telephone to proof it. ;)
I agree on the Germans, most disappointing thing I've heard regarding that issue was a fellow "citizen" telling me "You have to bow!" ..I think that guy in your picture sitting on that iron ball needs to put on more weight.
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Wait...Bill G's sending me a new missive....OK, the nanites are now able to reassemble thru cell phones & land lines. They always were able to pass thru the computer, but that took physical contact with the hard drive to pass to the user. Don't pick up if the phone rings... :o
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Wait...Bill G's sending me a new missive....OK, the nanites are now able to reassemble thru cell phones & land lines. They always were able to pass thru the computer, but that took physical contact with the hard drive to pass to the user. Don't pick up if the phone rings... :o
Why would B.G. send you anything?
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Why the nanobots in the vaccines, of course. That's how he keep in touch. Otherwise what would be the point to putting nanites in the vaccines?
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Why the nanobots in the vaccines, of course. That's how he keep in touch. Otherwise what would be the point to putting nanites in the vaccines?
You do realise that Covid escaped from the exact same lab in Wuhan where they were experimenting on the aliens from that crashed space ship - the one that was all over YouTube a year or two back.
There is good evidence that it was an alien virus and potentially the aliens captured by the Chinese actually crashed becasue they were dying from Covid and lost control of their saucer.
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Yeah, that Jewish space laser blasted that UFO a good'un. The Covid-19 is part of a "terraforming" operation the illegal space aliens were performing. 18 months from now the "Black Fungus" that Indian C19 victims get will begin converting the excess CO2 to ammonia, the aliens normal atmosphere. Everyone with the "jab" will go pod-like for awhile, then emerge as servants for the alien invaders.
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Yeah, that Jewish space laser blasted that UFO a good'un. The Covid-19 is part of a "terraforming" operation the illegal space aliens were performing. 18 months from now the "Black Fungus" that Indian C19 victims get will begin converting the excess CO2 to ammonia, the aliens normal atmosphere. Everyone with the "jab" will go pod-like for awhile, then emerge as servants for the alien invaders.
Well, it is about time. ;)
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I always knew that Jewish Space Laser would come in handy for something some day or other.
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I always knew that Jewish Space Laser would come in handy for something some day or other.
I always assumed zapping Iranian jets/rockets/missiles/mullahs would be first, but invading space aliens are just about as bad, so I'm good with it.
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I was always interested as to why the "Commodities" system was abandoned. A family with 50 pounds of cheese, a 5 gallon tin of powdered milk, 100 pound sack each of rice & beans, maybe a tin of powdered eggs, that family will be able to eat if they have a hot plate or hibachi. Any extra money can be funneled to rent, clothes or transportation. Simply giving folks with limited financial acumen money and assuming they'll buy reasonable subsistence supplies seems doomed to fail. I see a lot of tattoos, touch-screen cell phones and vape hardware myself. I believe the commodities system didn't funnel enough money to the "convenience food" divisions of General Mills and lobbyists took care of the rest. A lot of useful warehouse & driving jobs were lost, and small farmers lost a steady source of direct basic income.
On the industrial welfare end, I'd really like to see the Bargaining Unit more involved with Management selection and retention in post. I've seen way too many Upgrades that within a few months choked off the parts supplies to the workers and cut back necessary overtime, primarily to pad their own year end bonus cheques, all to the long term degradation of the process equipment. Long Term degradation was paid for with "Capital" money, a different and lucrative process for the Company. Going further up the food chain, I don't like the practice of Upper Management NOT coming "up the ladder", so they have only a minimal grasp of their decision making on the entire process. Way too much short term "rape & pillage" going on in the USA.
Yep, yep, and yep. We can definitely be frenemies.
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HA-HA, most likely just a Chinese commie party representative.
Whether he likes it or not, doubtless.
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@ # 347: Strategy for today - drop down & speed up!
@ # 348: Maybe that's how the Knesset works?
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Yeah, that Jewish space laser blasted that UFO a good'un. The Covid-19 is part of a "terraforming" operation the illegal space aliens were performing. 18 months from now the "Black Fungus" that Indian C19 victims get will begin converting the excess CO2 to ammonia, the aliens normal atmosphere. Everyone with the "jab" will go pod-like for awhile, then emerge as servants for the alien invaders.
I, for one, will giddily await our new ammonia-craving overlords in my cozy new pod...
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3c/f8/41/3cf841c4f4d9f1cece92d0151826130d.jpg)
"Another flagon of cat pee, My Lord?"
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I, for one, will giddily await our new ammonia-craving overlords in my cozy new pod...
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3c/f8/41/3cf841c4f4d9f1cece92d0151826130d.jpg)
"Another flagon of cat pee, My Lord?"
You mean after the nordic overlords it can´t get much worse?
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@ # 351: ....urine rare form today.... ;D
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Maybe that's how the Knesset works?
Probably Mossad, too!
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Good info. Every organization has folks that get along for the benefit of the group. Liking each other is optional, appreciation of skills & talents is a requirement for success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad
Mossad,[a] is the national intelligence agency of Israel. It is one of the main entities in the Israeli Intelligence Community, along with Aman (military intelligence) and Shin Bet (internal security).
Mossad is responsible for intelligence collection, covert operations, and counter-terrorism. It is separate from the democratic institutions of Israel; because no law defines its purpose, objectives, roles, missions, powers or budget, and because it is exempt from the constitutional laws of the State of Israel, Mossad has been described as a deep state.[1] Its director answers directly and only to the Prime Minister. Its annual budget is estimated to be around 10 billion shekels (US$2.73 billion) and it is estimated that it employs around 7,000 people directly, making it the one of the world's largest espionage agencies.
Mossad's former motto, be-tachbūlōt ta`aseh lekhā milchāmāh (Hebrew: בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה) is a quote from the Bible (Proverbs 24:6): "For by wise guidance you can wage your war" (NRSV). The motto was later changed to another Proverbs passage: be-'éyn tachbūlōt yippol `ām; ū-teshū`āh be-rov yō'éts (Hebrew: באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ, Proverbs 11:14). This is translated by NRSV as: "Where there is no guidance, a nation falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety."[5]
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Here you have it, the caging. That's something the nordic commies are actually pretty good at, and the s×÷ish p@@0 jwz finance it since it's really efficient. With no monies to pay for overtime and no compensation, just turn all jobs to "military service", "Arbeit macht Frei."
https://amp-svt-se.translate.goog/nyheter/lokalt/sodertalje/forsvarsmaktens-metoder-anvands-pa-covid-iva?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv
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Seeing as how the Swedish military hasn't fired a shot in anger since the Battle of Leipzig against Napoleon in 1813, I can't really guess how effective or cutting edge the "military techniques" being used to manage medical staff, as only vaguely described in the article, may be. Are we talking floggings? Are they also reintroducing leeches to the treatment regimens?
(https://i.insider.com/5d5abe02cd97844acf2b8575)
"Thank God the crack Swedish Doily Brigade has finally arrived! Now we'll be sure to have clean latrines! Huzzah!"
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Their psychological methods are definitely great in turning everyone into a mindless follow the order zombie. They probably figured that electric truck don't work in mass because the engineers don't follow the order to make it work so they stepped in.
Now I don't know if I needed a surgery for what ever reason if I wanted to be operated on by one of those doctors turned into a mindless zombie by the Swedish military, rather go to India in all seriousness.
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Good info. Every organization has folks that get along for the benefit of the group. Liking each other is optional, appreciation of skills & talents is a requirement for success.
Absolutely. I dare say you and I would get along very well in a professional setting. No reason to talk politics or religion, and we would probs even progress from from frenemies to friendly coworkers.
It's all those times I'd find myself agreeing with your minor political slips of conversation when I'd wonder if I'm going soft or you're finally wising up. ;)
If our shared occupation was centered around vintage motos we'd likely even progress from friendly coworkers to coworkers who are friends.
Shared goals, shared goals, even the FBI and CIA can move amicably in the same direction with a shared goal paving the way.
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Seeing as how the Swedish military hasn't fired a shot in anger since the Battle of Leipzig against Napoleon in 1813.....]
regarding the fire effectiveness, since 1813 they fire into civilians and tourist in the kingdom of sweden, but only after they made sure those who they fire at have no guns to shoot back... ;) ;D ;D
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@ 359: Well done, Grasshopper, you succeeded in snatching the pebble from my hand! I look forward to future collaboration. :)
(Here's an X-ref for the non-geriatric... ;D) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(1972_TV_series)
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(https://i.insider.com/5d5abe02cd97844acf2b8575)
"Thank God the crack Swedish Doily Brigade has finally arrived! Now we'll be sure to have clean latrines! Huzzah!"
But seriously, what the what even is this nonsense?
Once the Swedes were mighty warriors who wielded swords so long they were used to break lines of pikemen, no kidding. The Swedes were vikings, then became swordsmen of such renown they hired themselves and their giant swords out to Europe's warring nobles as unbeatable mercenaries. Seriously, they carried swords into battle against spears. And won. Over and over again.
Now they're prancing about with doilies on their heads while they hold hands like metrosexual acolytes of High Priestess Greta. :P
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They are still capable of harassing chicken farm owners in india atleast. :o ::)
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Y'all might need to get out more...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Armed_Forces
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/en/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Air_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Navy
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Ya, good enough to harras chicken farm owners in India, not good enough for Ratt Kings and Robber Barrons enlightening us with 1950ies technology that the British exported there after WW2. :(
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Was there supposed to be some actual content to that last message? You are talking about a country looking down the gun barrel of Russia just across the Baltic. What makes you think they aren't taking appropriate measures? Clear & concisely please, leave Derottonen(b) out of it this time.
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a+b=c ? ...yeah, it's those russian spies surrounding their companies for sure, leaking information directly to Kremlin, comes in handy every time they need to slow down the production output of their volvos and saabs. Pretty boring stories...
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...still waiting for derottonen(a) to return...
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Hmm, some people waiting for the return of Jesus, they got Greta now. ;D
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Well...no, actually...just a return of sanity. Any idea when Dr. Jekyll is due back? It'd be a nice change of pace.
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Well...no, actually...just a return of sanity. Any idea when Dr. Jekyll is due back? It'd be a nice change of pace.
The swedish Mrs. Frigida doesn't want any Dr. Jekylls around. ;)
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I worked with a guy that married 3 different beautiful women over 15 years that all looked and acted virtually identically, to the point when we met the "new" Mrs. Wonderful it was tough to see any difference from the last. We finally told him to just let us pick out the next wife, that the common factor was him. There is an argument to be made for arranged marriages...He came into the shop one day a few months after the last go-round and said he was moving to Las Vegas to be with his family - we all asked "Which one?".
Picking a good partner is challenging. It's very hard to dispassionately look at yourself and think objectively about your "object of desire". One solid caveat is that there has got to be something in it for both parties. Another is that you have to want to get along.
We had one special co-worker that was apparently out to set a record - he got married every 18 months or so like clockwork. He never got to retire, something about alimony & child support... :o
PS - Ms. Frigida likely isn't a forum participant - All of us here would welcome Dr. Jekyll/Derottonen(a) back! ;D ;D ;D
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However, Mr. Hyde has always been more exciting and entertaining than Dr. Jekyll. Plus, you never know what he is going to do next. ;)
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"There's never any telling what you'll say or do next, except that it's bound to be something astonishing. By Gad, sir, you are a character.”
The Maltese Falcon 1941 Sydney Greenstreet
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Mr. Hyde was a psycopathic killer. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be in a locked room with him for any length of time, it might prove to be excessively "exciting & entertaining".
https://www.ranker.com/list/asylum-visitors-in-the-nineteenth-century/christy-box
19th-Century Tourists Visited Mental Asylums Like They Were Theme Parks
" Mental asylums served a much different purpose in the Victorian Era - specifically as entertainment for the public. Tourists visited them for amusement, entertained by patients who were incarcerated for mental illness. The practice was one of the many strange pastimes and rituals from the Victorian era, a time when unwrapping mummies at parties was considered a fun thing to do. "
Cultural historian Mike Jay has described it thus: Particularly on Sundays and holidays, the scene in the galleries could be boisterous and rowdy. Like a ghost train or a freak show, or indeed the surgery and autopsy, demonstrations that were also on offer to the London public – it offered an extreme but safely contained experience, and a stage on which high-spirited visitors could perform acts of daring or display their wit.
It's juvenile to encourage someone to display erratic behavior for your own amusement. Life can be hard enough for Asperger's folks, the social rules that smooth out our interactions can be pretty incomprehensible to them. Stirring the pot to obtain a "safely contained experience" on the internet is schadenfreude.
Derottonen is demonstrably a very sharp guy. He doesn't need to indulge in antagonistic word-play drama to prove that. He also doesn't need encouragement when he "wanders into the weeds" as it were. His occasional technical posts are noteworthy, it's a damn shame those aren't the norm.
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Mr. Hyde was a psycopathic killer. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be in a locked room with him for any length of time, it might prove to be excessively "exciting & entertaining".
https://www.ranker.com/list/asylum-visitors-in-the-nineteenth-century/christy-box
19th-Century Tourists Visited Mental Asylums Like They Were Theme Parks
" Mental asylums served a much different purpose in the Victorian Era - specifically as entertainment for the public. Tourists visited them for amusement, entertained by patients who were incarcerated for mental illness. The practice was one of the many strange pastimes and rituals from the Victorian era, a time when unwrapping mummies at parties was considered a fun thing to do. "
Cultural historian Mike Jay has described it thus: Particularly on Sundays and holidays, the scene in the galleries could be boisterous and rowdy. Like a ghost train or a freak show, or indeed the surgery and autopsy, demonstrations that were also on offer to the London public – it offered an extreme but safely contained experience, and a stage on which high-spirited visitors could perform acts of daring or display their wit.
It's juvenile to encourage someone to display erratic behavior for your own amusement. Life can be hard enough for Asperger's folks, the social rules that smooth out our interactions can be pretty incomprehensible to them. Stirring the pot to obtain a "safely contained experience" on the internet is schadenfreude.
Derottonen is demonstrably a very sharp guy. He doesn't need to indulge in antagonistic word-play drama to prove that. He also doesn't need encouragement when he "wanders into the weeds" as it were. His occasional technical posts are noteworthy, it's a damn shame those aren't the norm.
+1
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Just to throw the entire thread into a turmoil, attached are photos that I took at Alice's Restaurant today. This being Father's Day they had more customers than I have ever seen on an early Sunday morning. Also attached are a three photos of motorcycles, which might be more interesting than the rest of this thread. ;)
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Mr. Hyde was a psycopathic killer. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be in a locked room with him for any length of time, it might prove to be excessively "exciting & entertaining".
https://www.ranker.com/list/asylum-visitors-in-the-nineteenth-century/christy-box
19th-Century Tourists Visited Mental Asylums Like They Were Theme Parks
" Mental asylums served a much different purpose in the Victorian Era - specifically as entertainment for the public. Tourists visited them for amusement, entertained by patients who were incarcerated for mental illness. The practice was one of the many strange pastimes and rituals from the Victorian era, a time when unwrapping mummies at parties was considered a fun thing to do. "
Cultural historian Mike Jay has described it thus: Particularly on Sundays and holidays, the scene in the galleries could be boisterous and rowdy. Like a ghost train or a freak show, or indeed the surgery and autopsy, demonstrations that were also on offer to the London public – it offered an extreme but safely contained experience, and a stage on which high-spirited visitors could perform acts of daring or display their wit.
It's juvenile to encourage someone to display erratic behavior for your own amusement. Life can be hard enough for Asperger's folks, the social rules that smooth out our interactions can be pretty incomprehensible to them. Stirring the pot to obtain a "safely contained experience" on the internet is schadenfreude.
Derottonen is demonstrably a very sharp guy. He doesn't need to indulge in antagonistic word-play drama to prove that. He also doesn't need encouragement when he "wanders into the weeds" as it were. His occasional technical posts are noteworthy, it's a damn shame those aren't the norm.
And here I was just thinking he was a regular troll. ::)
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" attached are a three photos of motorcycles, which might be more interesting than the rest of this thread " A hearty +1 to that, brother.
Glad you included a "real" motorcycle, that sweet RD350 wearing expansion chambers. I can almost smell the Blendzall... 8) ;D
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Picking a good partner is challenging. It's very hard to dispassionately look at yourself and think objectively about your "object of desire". One solid caveat is that there has got to be something in it for both parties. Another is that you have to want to get along.
Yeah, I waited until I was 40. Met a woman who finally ticked all the boxes. We might have a rare flare up but 99% we're fine.
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Mr. Hyde was a psycopathic killer. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be in a locked room with him for any length of time, it might prove to be excessively "exciting & entertaining".
https://www.ranker.com/list/asylum-visitors-in-the-nineteenth-century/christy-box
19th-Century Tourists Visited Mental Asylums Like They Were Theme Parks
" Mental asylums served a much different purpose in the Victorian Era - specifically as entertainment for the public. Tourists visited them for amusement, entertained by patients who were incarcerated for mental illness. The practice was one of the many strange pastimes and rituals from the Victorian era, a time when unwrapping mummies at parties was considered a fun thing to do. "
Cultural historian Mike Jay has described it thus: Particularly on Sundays and holidays, the scene in the galleries could be boisterous and rowdy. Like a ghost train or a freak show, or indeed the surgery and autopsy, demonstrations that were also on offer to the London public – it offered an extreme but safely contained experience, and a stage on which high-spirited visitors could perform acts of daring or display their wit.
It's juvenile to encourage someone to display erratic behavior for your own amusement. Life can be hard enough for Asperger's folks, the social rules that smooth out our interactions can be pretty incomprehensible to them. Stirring the pot to obtain a "safely contained experience" on the internet is schadenfreude.
Derottonen is demonstrably a very sharp guy. He doesn't need to indulge in antagonistic word-play drama to prove that. He also doesn't need encouragement when he "wanders into the weeds" as it were. His occasional technical posts are noteworthy, it's a damn shame those aren't the norm.
:o ...I am not Jesus neither a Samaritan, it´s ZERO CO2 the swedish sweety pies want. All is written on wikipedia.org and factcheck.org ;)
I am pretty sure the chinese will help them with that even for FREE. ;D
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Ohhh yeah....we are now all autistic now! HA-HA
...you know the british "gentle" man, can royally kiss my ars, togeather with the all "electric" polish christian piss heads and all the rest of the fuxSing EUROPE who I supposeldy "OWE" sooooo much.
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@ #381 & 382:
" it´s ZERO CO2 the swedish sweety pies want "
Good to see you are paying attention. Sort of. Zero net is different from zero. But you actually know that, you just left off the "net" to make it more of an attention grabber.
https://www.swedishepa.se/Environmental-objectives-and-cooperation/Swedish-environmental-work/Work-areas/Climate/Climate-Act-and-Climate-policy-framework-/
Sweden’s Climate Act and Climate Policy Framework: In 2017 Sweden adopted a new climate policy framework. The framework consists of a climate act, climate targets and a climate policy council. Sweden's long-term target is to have zero net greenhouse gas emissions by 2045 at the latest.
" Ohhh yeah....we are now all autistic now! HA-HA "
Does the word "spectrum" ring any bells?
" ...you know the british "gentle" man, can royally kiss my ars, togeather with the all "electric" polish christian piss heads and all the rest of the fuxSing EUROPE who I supposeldy "OWE" sooooo much. "
Are we shooting for Coprolalia as well? How much BS are you going to stack up here? Any valid reason for typing in this last word-spasm-salad? Why would you rationally do any of this useless flailing around on a technical forum? Get a grip on yourself and clean up your act, nobody wants to see you self destruct. You are way better than this, Derottonen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia
" involuntary swearing or the involuntary utterance of obscene words or socially inappropriate and derogatory remarks. Coprolalia comes from the Greek κόπρος (kópros), meaning "dung, feces", and λαλιά (laliā́) "speech", from λαλεῖν (laleîn) "to talk".[1]
Coprolalia is an occasional characteristic of tic disorders, in particular Tourette syndrome, although it is not required for a diagnosis of Tourette's and only about 10% of Tourette's patients exhibit coprolalia.[2] It is not unique to tic disorders; it is also a rare symptom of other neurological disorders.
Coprolalia is one type of coprophenomenon. Other coprophenomena include the related symptoms of copropraxia, involuntary actions such as performing obscene or forbidden gestures,[3] and coprographia, making obscene writings or drawings.[4] "
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...ohhhh, yeah, and not to forget the swed"§$sh pe§$files who are selling their kids to the arabs who are such good christians and "own" all the place.
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See #383. Get some help.
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See #383. Get some help.
Oh, help? So much of help I got already...stuff it in your ar7se. A help from a swedish peD0 file may cost you the house.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57553238 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57553238)
They're in a mess right now...
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57553238 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57553238)
They're in a mess right now...
I can't believe it took them a bloody decade to cast a no confidence vote to get that commie ars out of office. He did even celebrate himself as the "Trump" of the nordics.
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Quit inflicting your personal psychodrama on everyone else, deal with your issues. Nobody else here makes a career out of whinging on endlessly about their life troubles. Chances are very good you aren't the only one with problems.
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Dettrone, you need to take your case to Interpol or some Human Rights Tribunal. They might be interested in where Sweden touched you, but we really aren't.
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I just saw a headline on the BBC's Open Source program which said that "Sweden's government has been toppled by a no confidence vote" by their legislature, I assume. So there appears to be some sort of drama going on in the country right now.
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I just saw a headline on the BBC's Open Source program which said that "Sweden's government has been toppled by a no confidence vote" by their legislature, I assume. So there appears to be some sort of drama going on in the country right now.
Check my last post ;)
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I just saw a headline on the BBC's Open Source program which said that "Sweden's government has been toppled by a no confidence vote" by their legislature, I assume. So there appears to be some sort of drama going on in the country right now.
All the Covid minimisers are having a hard time now. Trump, Balsonaro, Modi, and to a lesser extent Johnson. It's no coincidence that they hold the death records... Lofven's backing of a mitigation strategy has backfired and cost Swedish lives and their economy, hence the drama.
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Check my last post ;)
The government was brought down over rent controls? Is that all they have to worry about? ???
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The government was brought down over rent controls? Is that all they have to worry about? ???
Actually yes, central planning in that country has gone so far that if the market were to set pricing it would most likely end up with half the population homeless except of the politicos.
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Personally, if I lived in central or eastern Europe, I would also be concerned about Putin's plans to bring back the Soviet Union, in addition to the cost of renting an apartment. Don't forget that they had central planning too. And how did that work out for the USSR? ::)
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The rental black market is already raging there since they have rent controls. Those who pay the "controled" low rent can find themselves quickly removed by the mafia, if the mafia figures that they could rent it out for higher price.
Well every market is controlled in some way, otherwise its not an market but anarchy - except the price.
The rental prices could as well drop like a stone, hard to tell, their politicos preach extreme shortage of everything which may not be accurate. What they definitely "DO" is to break up partnerships so that they rent two apartments instead of one, the city mafia is involved in that.
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The rental black market is already raging there since they have rent controls. Those who pay the "controled" low rent can find themselves quickly removed by the mafia, if the mafia figures that they could rent it out for higher price.
Well every market is controlled in some way, otherwise its not an market but anarchy - except the price.
The rental prices could as well drop like a stone, hard to tell, their politicos preach extreme shortage of everything which may not be accurate. What they definitely "DO" is to break up partnerships so that they rent two apartments instead of one, the city mafia is involved in that.
So the "free market" is working behind the scenes. I think that is what happened in the USSR and the old Communist China, both of which had heavily regulated economies. Everyone had to stand in line to buy anything, although the regulated prices were cheap. But if you had money, you could get what you wanted by skirting the government's system and heading for the "black market".
I will give China credit for coming up with a mostly free market economic system while maintaining strict control over their citizens. That keeps the majority of the population content and gives most people what they want, except freedom to do anything that conflicts with the government's strict rules, which makes sure that the government stays in power. A much improved system over the old "communist" model - as long as you follow the rules and keep your head down, which is something that most Chinese are skilled at. Hong Kong being an exception, of course. :(
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... as long as you follow the rules and keep your head down, which is something that most Chinese are skilled at. Hong Kong being an exception, of course. :(
...could be the reason their entrepreneurs may appear like priests or Jack Ma, everyone else could be accuses of showinism or greediness. :D
The shortige in Sweden could very well be manufactured or faked up, like in their companies where 100 engineers deside the length of a screw and in the end they say there are no resources to do that job because nobody wants to do it, that would
worsen the work/reward ratio so to say, typical for commies.
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...could be the reason their entrepreneurs may appear like priests or Jack Ma, everyone else could be accuses of showinism or greediness. :D
The shortige in Sweden could very well be manufactured or faked up, like in their companies where 100 engineers deside the length of a screw and in the end they say there are no resources to do that job because nobody wants to do it, that would
worsen the work/reward ratio so to say, typical for commies.
Actually, I am not sure if there are any communist countries in the world anymore, except maybe Cuba. Most of the countries that call themselves communist seem like dictatorships and/or government-managed economies to me. :-\ Unfortunately, whatever you call them, the guys at the top always seem to have managed to grab all of the loose cash laying around and have shipped it off to other locations where they can retire when the time comes to move along. ::)
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What? No Trickle Down? Egads! :o
Wasn't it a hoot when Cuba offered to send medical personnel to the US after Hurricane Katrina? Lots of clenched jaws & teeth gritting in Washington then...
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What? No Trickle Down? Egads! :o
Wasn't it a hoot when Cuba offered to send medical personnel to the US after Hurricane Katrina? Lots of clenched jaws & teeth gritting in Washington then...
Cuba does have a lot of problems, but somehow they seem to have a pretty decent reputation for their health system and their doctors and nurses who seem to be able to do a lot with little in the way of expensive and high tech infrastructure.
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What? No Trickle Down? Egads! :o
Wasn't it a hoot when Cuba offered to send medical personnel to the US after Hurricane Katrina? Lots of clenched jaws & teeth gritting in Washington then...
That would indicate that the medical personnel in Cuba has greater amount of resources and time at their hands, than in some "advanced" economies where one doctor is managed by 5 assistants and 5 managers.
Even better in Sweden where they apparently have to employ military strategies and surveillance to make sure the doctors do their job. :o That's just too advanced.
Ever since I've left that place I've not been sick, not even once, how funny.
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The knee-jerk demonization of Putin aside, who has long since devolved into some unexamined politico-cultural shorthand for "boogeyman", I don't quite understand why the hell we're so eagerly hopping into bed with Ukraine. The Royal Navy's already coaxing warning shots in the Black Sea bobbing around just off the coast of Crimea just in advance of major NATO naval exercises commencing there next week with Ukrainian participation. So, why are we stroking off THOSE dipshits? Just 'cause little Hunter's getting a regular fat check from them for doing bugger all? The same slimy-greedy murderous doofuses whose "militias" are raging around Donbass in full-on SS regalia shelling civilians in Luhansk and Donetsk? Those are our noble allies? At this rate we'll be fortunate if we don't all wake up in a greenish fireball, and we'll kinda deserve it.
(http://nolaworkers.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Azov.jpg)
Seriously, THESE are our new "partners in peace"?
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That's a good question, maybe just to stir up the shit in Europe a little bit more?
@Richard230: California seems to be as much fun as Sweden, bikes to follow?
https://www.westernjournal.com/nanny-state-bans-porsche-selling-new-911-manual-transmission/
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That's a good question, maybe just to stir up the shit in Europe a little bit more?
@Richard230: California seems to be as much fun as Sweden, bikes to follow?
https://www.westernjournal.com/nanny-state-bans-porsche-selling-new-911-manual-transmission/
The good news is that Governors, facing a recall, can still be bought in California.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/porsche-911-gt3-manual-transmission-california-update/
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You mean the Porsche folks have been running around with black plastic bags full of cash and dropping them at the governors doors the way the swedish do it in India? ;D
At 160k$ I doubt I'll see many around though.
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You mean the Porsche folks have been running around with black plastic bags full of cash and dropping them at the governors doors the way the swedish do it in India? ;D
At 160k$ I doubt I'll see many around though.
I wouldn't be surprised. That is what it takes to get his attention. Democracy at work. Just bring cash - in small bills, of course. ;)
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I wouldn't be surprised. That is what it takes to get his attention. Democracy at work. Just bring cash - in small bills, of course. ;)
Wouldn't want the job of the delivery boy though, high risk the company or the recipient may want the evidence to disappear, swedish have the mental hospitals for that.
And a social warrior tayling every employee leaving the door of their company. ;D
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Wouldn't want the job of the delivery boy though, high risk the company or the recipient may want the evidence to disappear, swedish have the mental hospitals for that.
And a social warrior tayling every employee leaving the door of their company. ;D
California got rid of all of their state-run mental hospitals many years ago. Now we just let them stay in tents on city public sidewalks. :(
I just heard on the news that the cost for San Francisco to support the homeless and mentally-ill who are living in city-approved tent locations is $60,000 USD per tent per year. :o
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Actually the Swedish pay for any job they order that way, and if you work on your own property they may accuse you of black labour. No wonder they have only Gretas foundations left. They may buy a car and want a compensation from the company that is putting their lives at risk. They've learned from their politicos, so walking will be the preferred transportation method rather soon. ::)
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They may even steal your car and next day offer you a lift to be good samaritans, seriously I don't want to see any sweety swede near me anytime soon, preferably never. ::)
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(https://memecreator.org/static/images/memes/4847326.jpg)
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California got rid of all of their state-run mental hospitals many years ago. Now we just let them stay in tents on city public sidewalks. :(
I just heard on the news that the cost for San Francisco to support the homeless and mentally-ill who are living in city-approved tent locations is $60,000 USD per tent per year. :o
Ya, looks like the commies in Eastern Europe managed their market better, atleast there was no homeless. Considering the amount of available resources and wealth those days it's a joke, I don't remember hearing every second person being mentally sick either which seems to be a source of income those days more than anything else.
It was the exacly the same though in their companies, if you invented a method so that you finished your work in 4 hours instead of 8 a commie would come report it, write about it and the norm would be increased and your idea distributed to your coworkers. So thinking didn't pay very well back than, as it doesn't do today. Only they call it management group instead.
I'm starting to be in favour of nationalisation of major corps. The VW monstrum is owned and run to a big degree by the state anyway, I don't see the point why any manager in that thing should be payed more than maybe the Ms. Merkel. Since they sit with the politicians they make the market rules, there can't be competition if you own the market.
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Well the actual Soviet system is you produced 4 widgets a day but recorded you made 6.
The transport guy would pick up your 4 widgets to drop at the railway station but record he collected 6.
The railway yard would receive the 4 real widgets and 2 imaginary ones and ship 2 real ones and 4 of the imaginary ones to Moscow and stockpile the other 2 real ones, as there was insufficient rolling stock available to ship 6 real widgets, and anyway maybe they could sell the left over real ones, that did not fit on the train, on the black market (there being no real black market for imaginary widgets) as they had not been paid in over a year and needed the cash.
At Moscow the 6 widgets (2 real and 4 imaginary) would be put in storage. No one minded the shortfall, as there was insufficient space to store 6 real widgets anyway.
A stock take at a later date would reveal that 4 of the stored widgets (the imaginary ones) had been stolen initiating an investigation into theft in the Moscow warehouses. Though no-one really cared because there was no actual demand for widgets they were obsolete tech that no one actually wanted.
I suppose in a way it was a Cold War era forerunner of Futures Trading in the west - where people buy and sell imaginary cows.
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I suppose in a way it was a Cold War era forerunner of Futures Trading in the west - where people buy and sell imaginary cows.
Not all wrong with that since it makes abundance of real cows possible. In the soviet system everyone would adjust their production output to minimum due to the fact that there was no speculative market to absorb it, people had to line up like lemmings to go and buy anything and wait maybe 10 years for the car they ordered for the factory to produce it.
Now there is a abundance of everything that the market produces however the affordability of things that you "need" like housing, food and transportation has become worse than in communism.
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Well the actual Soviet system is you produced 4 widgets a day but recorded you made 6.
The transport guy would pick up your 4 widgets to drop at the railway station but record he collected 6.
The railway yard would receive the 4 real widgets and 2 imaginary ones and ship 2 real ones and 4 of the imaginary ones to Moscow and stockpile the other 2 real ones, as there was insufficient rolling stock available to ship 6 real widgets, and anyway maybe they could sell the left over real ones, that did not fit on the train, on the black market (there being no real black market for imaginary widgets) as they had not been paid in over a year and needed the cash.
At Moscow the 6 widgets (2 real and 4 imaginary) would be put in storage. No one minded the shortfall, as there was insufficient space to store 6 real widgets anyway.
A stock take at a later date would reveal that 4 of the stored widgets (the imaginary ones) had been stolen initiating an investigation into theft in the Moscow warehouses. Though no-one really cared because there was no actual demand for widgets they were obsolete tech that no one actually wanted.
I suppose in a way it was a Cold War era forerunner of Futures Trading in the west - where people buy and sell imaginary cows.
I think you figured out the Soviet economic system, Glen. Now it is more like the U.S. system, where them that has the money and power get to make and keep more of it. Playing the board game Monopoly really helped with their education, especially the Get Out Of Jail Free card. But they also learned early on that in real life it really helped that when you get to make the rules of the game you got it made in the shade. ;D
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I think you figured out the Soviet economic system, Glen. Now it is more like the U.S. system, where them that has the money and power get to make and keep more of it. Playing the board game Monopoly really helped with their education, especially the Get Out Of Jail Free card. But they also learned early on that in real life it really helped that when you get to make the rules of the game you got it made in the shade. ;D
That's exactly Sweden, the commies there adjust the rules nowadays even "retroactively", always on the bright side. ::)
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In today's California news: Yesterday an NBC TV news crew was interviewing a "violence prevention coordinator" in front of the Oakland, CA, City Hall when they were accosted by a couple of men who tried to rob them of their camera equipment. However, the TV crew had been to Oakland before and had hired an armed guard for protection. When he pulled out his gun, they took off. Fun and games in Oakland. Even being at City Hall is no protection against being robbed.
Meanwhile, the Oakland City Council had just "defunded" their police department to the tune of $18 million, making the Police Chief go on TV and complaining that his cops were being run into the ground trying to keep up with all of the crime in the city (murders are twice what they were in 2019 so far this year). The money pulled out of his budget is being given to social workers who are supposed to try to convince the city's criminals to get real jobs and to stop robbing the city's citizens. We will have to see how that works out for them. ::)
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Sounds like a great idea, will be like Sweden where everyone is a criminal suspect and everyone gets a social worker to monitor everyone. Heaven on Earth.
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Sounds like a great idea, will be like Sweden where everyone is a criminal suspect and everyone gets a social worker to monitor everyone. Heaven on Earth.
..well anyway since the Swedish police is useless and suffer Stockholm syndrom, they targeting the victims of crime, so can as well be defunded compleatly.
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Today is the U.S. Fourth of July holiday. To celebrate in today's sports contest news, San Jose's Joey Chestnut, the world's hotdog eating champion, broke his own record by eating 76 full size hotdogs and buns within just 10 minutes. The winner of the woman's event was only able to down 31 hotdogs. Now that is what we do for fun and to celebrate our independence from England. ;)
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Looks like we are also celebrating by selling fireworks to morons and pretending to be surprised later when our fields & forests are set ablaze.
The USA - not too tuned into rational behavior. I'm OK with taping a check for $100K on the terminally stoopid and giving them 90 days to find another country to be stoopid in, just don't come back. Somalia/Argentina/et al might develop a new industry overnight...and it'd be worth it.
Le génie humain a des bornes, Mais la sottise n’en a pas.
The total amount of intelligence is finite, thus the more it's divided up, the dumber we get.
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Looks like we are also celebrating by selling fireworks to morons and pretending to be surprised later when our fields & forests are set ablaze.
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The town I live in was almost burnt to the ground by the British in 1777 - https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/british-attack-danbury-connecticut
Tonight it sounds like they're back and ready to finish the job. ;)
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Most types of fireworks are illegal in all towns in the SF Bay Area. While my town is one of the few that does allow "safe and sane" fireworks to be sold by nonprofit charities, there will be a public vote later this year that would outlaw their sale in the future.
But what has always been illegal are fireworks that shoot up in the air and explode - or just explode and leave holes in the asphalt and shake the neighborhood. :o There were illuminated signs on all of the major highways, as well as constant TV and radio announcements advising the public that if you were caught using illegal fireworks you would be subject to a minimum $1000 fine and a possible year in jail.
Last night down the street from me there were explosions and exploding rockets shooting a hundred feet in the air that went on for hours. And right across the street is a hillside with very dry vegetation. Even though you could see these fireworks from a couple of miles away, not a single cop passed by and put a stop to the action. You can have all the laws and penalties that you want, but if no one will enforce the laws, why bother. >:(
Fortunately, no fires were started that I saw last night. So we got lucky in that regard. :)
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+1 to #424, #425....dodged the bullet for now. Come on November!
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For the historically-minded here's a letter from Founding Father and 2nd President John Adams to his wife Abigail about the first annual "Independency" celebrations in Philadelphia in 1777 (see page 3), which, oddly enough, were celebrated on July 2nd: www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17760703jasecond
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For the historically-minded here's a letter from Founding Father and 2nd President John Adams to his wife Abigail about the first annual "Independency" celebrations in Philadelphia in 1777 (see page 3), which, oddly enough, were celebrated on July 2nd: www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17760703jasecond
GOOD STUFF thanks
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For the historically-minded here's a letter from Founding Father and 2nd President John Adams to his wife Abigail about the first annual "Independency" celebrations in Philadelphia in 1777 (see page 3), which, oddly enough, were celebrated on July 2nd: www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17760703jasecond
FWIW July 2nd was proposed as the initial holiday, because that was the day the Continental Congress declared independance from England. The Declaration was edited over the next two days, and accepted on the 4th. But I suspect you already knew that. ;)
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Scotty Kilmer just dropped a video titled, "BMW Just Got Fined Billions of Dollars and May Go Bust", wherein he explains how the EU is severely punishing BMW (and VW as well, it seems) for somehow colluding not to make cleaner vehicles than the law stipulated. I don't know the ins and outs of the case, but I thought it might be appropriate in this thread, which dances that fine line between railing at tyrannical government overreach and having one's pharmacist screw up that decimal point again: https://youtu.be/ShxBmzQO8Jk
Enjoy! Thy Nørdic Øverlørds will it so!
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It's probably a rebranded bribe or a donation for a noble course.
Anyone still wants to go to work?
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Scotty Kilmer just dropped a video titled, "BMW Just Got Fined Billions of Dollars and May Go Bust", wherein he explains how the EU is severely punishing BMW (and VW as well, it seems) for somehow colluding not to make cleaner vehicles than the law stipulated. I don't know the ins and outs of the case, but I thought it might be appropriate in this thread, which dances that fine line between railing at tyrannical government overreach and having one's pharmacist screw up that decimal point again: https://youtu.be/ShxBmzQO8Jk
Enjoy! Thy Nørdic Øverlørds will it so!
One thing about Scotty is that he likes to keep the air moving around him while he rants. ;)
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One thing about Scotty is that he likes to keep the air moving around him while he rants. ;)
:o...probably the last thing i might have noticed. ;D
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Here we go again. The latest news from California this week is that we may not be able to buy bacon (or any other pig parts, feet included) next year when a new law goes into effect that says that any pig parts sold in California must come from happy pigs raised sustainably and with all of the comforts of home, including being served nothing but the best 5-star restaurant slop, having high-speed internet connections and soothing MTV music. Apparently, only 4% of the country's pigs get that kind of attention. Since California's residents eat 15% of the pigs in the U.S. each year, next year there are going to be a lot of bacon lovers who are going to be really pissed when they can't get bacon with their free-range eggs and non-GMO hashed brown potatoes. :'( If the state's regulators don't find a way around this law, we might be having another recall next year. Or worse yet, more riots in the malls and butcher shops. :o
On the other hand, we might start growing bacon in our labs using the leftover petro-chemicals that have been replaced by ethanol in gasoline, to make everyone happy. And we can call it Soylant Green. ::)
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If it's fake pig, maybe "Squealant Green" or "Puerco Synthetico". ;D
More likely a vegan substitute will arise, like "Better'n Bacon" or "Harmonious Ham."
In any event, bacon/ham/porkchops will still exist, but obviously at higher prices. Maybe a new smuggling opportunity?
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Congratulations, every market needs an Al Capone, except the vaccine market that's already taken. ;D
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Maybe Al Pancetta, or Al Prosciutto, or even Al Guanciale? I'm thinking Americans in general aren't going to be terribly harmed by a reduction in bacon fat consumption...any the pork industry won't evaporate either. That's just alarmist badinage. Maybe we'll have more "Mom 'n Pop" operations spring up to replace ADM Megapork Internationale. ADM can move on to farming tigers for the Chinese.
https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/what-i-saw-at-a-chinese-tiger-farm-and-what-it-means-for-wild-tigers
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Maybe Al Pancetta, or Al Prosciutto, or even Al Guanciale? I'm thinking Americans in general aren't going to be terribly harmed by a reduction in bacon fat consumption...any the pork industry won't evaporate either. That's just alarmist badinage. Maybe we'll have more "Mom 'n Pop" operations spring up to replace ADM Megapork Internationale. ADM can move on to farming tigers for the Chinese.
https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/what-i-saw-at-a-chinese-tiger-farm-and-what-it-means-for-wild-tigers
Forget tigers. I am all for farming free-range raccoons, with a topping of crows and wild turkeys, as the new replacement for unhappy pigs, veal and chicken. (Veal and chicken are also being covered by the new law. They just don't have the emotional media impact of bacon. ::) )
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How much antibiotic infused sickly meat do you really want to eat? Factory farming is a horror show, go tour one if you are even allowed onto the property. It'll put you off of whatever they're growing.
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https://www.worldanimalprotection.us/blogs/antibiotic-resistant-superbugs-how-factory-farming-driving-another-global-health-crisis#:~:text=Resistant%20bacteria%E2%80%94called%20%E2%80%9Csuperbugs%E2%80%9D,farm%20animals%20rather%20than%20humans.
Antibiotics are used routinely to prop up low welfare practices on factory farms and their overuse contributes to the rapid rise and spread of bacteria that are resistant to medicines used to fight infections. Resistant bacteria—called “superbugs”—are carried off farms via water, air, workers, insects, wildlife, and meat, reaching humans and causing life-threatening illness.
My personal enlightening experience was on a Euro-tour. in 30 days of restaurants & cafe dining, I had zero food related issues. As soon as we landed stateside and started eating agri-business products, I had to become very careful as to where I ate away from home. In Europe there is a larger general awareness of the importance of food quality. Cheap doesn't equal good.
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https://www.worldanimalprotection.us/blogs/antibiotic-resistant-superbugs-how-factory-farming-driving-another-global-health-crisis#:~:text=Resistant%20bacteria%E2%80%94called%20%E2%80%9Csuperbugs%E2%80%9D,farm%20animals%20rather%20than%20humans.
Antibiotics are used routinely to prop up low welfare practices on factory farms and their overuse contributes to the rapid rise and spread of bacteria that are resistant to medicines used to fight infections. Resistant bacteria—called “superbugs”—are carried off farms via water, air, workers, insects, wildlife, and meat, reaching humans and causing life-threatening illness.
My personal enlightening experience was on a Euro-tour. in 30 days of restaurants & cafe dining, I had zero food related issues. As soon as we landed stateside and started eating agri-business products, I had to become very careful as to where I ate away from home. In Europe there is a larger general awareness of the importance of food quality. Cheap doesn't equal good.
I would agree to that. Lot of small scale farming, excellent food quality. Sweden is different though, for some reason food is rather expensive in that country maybe the land is not as fertile as in southern europe which is why lot of food is imported over long distance and looses its freshness. Maybe that...
...otoh they've got good fish and if you make it to Norway maybe the Moby-Dick steak is something you may want to try. :D
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When can we expect lab-certified gene-modified factory mystery-meat on our tables to go along with my GMO cornflakes? :o
Considering how popular (personally, I have no idea why) buffalo chicken wings are in the U.S. I am just waiting for an 8-wing buffalo chicken to be developed for eating during U.S. football games. ::)
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I say son, I say there, y'all are living in the freakin' FUTURE, son, get out more!
Singapore is the first country in the world to approve lab-grown chicken products
Chicken bites from bioreactor-grown chicken will be available for sale.
The same approach can be used for beef, pork, and other animal products, but for several reasons, chickens are the most appealing place to start. First, chickens represent most of the animals raised and killed for their meat in the US, and they are raised in particularly appalling conditions — making them a good first target in the effort to coax Americans away from factory-farmed food. Second, the biggest challenge for lab-grown meat so far has been getting the structure of the meat right: Lab-grown products don’t yet have the texture of tissue produced inside an animal. That would make a lab-grown steak disappointing, but it’s less of a limitation for many chicken products.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/12/2/22125518/lab-grown-chicken-meat-singapore-bioreactor-approve
I'm certain that anyone dining on "Chik'n nuggets" in a fast food restaurant has zero interest in where they come from. On the bright side, it rather neatly resolves the "animal rights" concerns, eh?
The irony of this quote "making them a good first target in the effort to coax Americans away from factory-farmed food." seems to have escaped the author.
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So, like they always say about snakes, bugs and other edible things - they all taste like chicken. And now that even includes lab-grown "nuggets". ;)
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...so....another "nugget" of knowledge imparted... ;)
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Considering how popular (personally, I have no idea why) buffalo chicken wings are in the U.S. I am just waiting for an 8-wing buffalo chicken to be developed for eating during U.S. football games. ::)
Oh...You crave THE MEGALEG!: https://youtu.be/i_EYIujmORs
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Meanwhile, the Oakland City Council had just "defunded" their police department to the tune of $18 million, making the Police Chief go on TV and complaining that his cops were being run into the ground trying to keep up with all of the crime in the city (murders are twice what they were in 2019 so far this year). The money pulled out of his budget is being given to social workers who are supposed to try to convince the city's criminals to get real jobs and to stop robbing the city's citizens. We will have to see how that works out for them. ::)
And THEN these lunatic-run cities, after deFUNDing their police and diverting the money to OTHER Progressive lunacy, want to get MORE tax-paper money to replace the money they just took AWAY from their police.
Who in their right mind now would want to become a police officer? OR a Progressive CRT National Teacher's union/government controlled public school teacher? Teachers used to come from the top 1/3 of the graduating classes. Now they come from the bottom 3rd.
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Getting back to chicken parts for a moment: I used to work with a Chinese engineer who just loved chicken feet. Clearly chickens with two feet are just not enough for the Chinese pallet. You can't just eat one without going for the rest of the bag, like chips or popcorn. But it is likely an acquired taste. ???
I am not a big fan of chicken feet. Not only do they have no meat on them, but my daughter raises free-range chickens and I have seen what those feet like to stand in. Chickens have no interest in keeping their feet clean like some other animals and will walk through just about anything. Definitely not what I want to be consuming. But to each their own and it is nice to see every part of a meat animal being consumed and not being wasted.
Personally, I am a fan of breasts. Chicken or otherwise. You can have the feet and I will take the breast. ;)
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So RCCXXX, it likely follows you aren't a fan of these gustatory delights either... :o 8)
Bessie Smith - Gimme a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer (Audio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbQEapPrjGM
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Here is the latest from California: It was reported in the news last week that San Francisco is paying 10 gang members $300 a month not to shoot anyone. This came to light because Oakland city officials found out about San Francisco's program and is considering doing the same thing. However, one of the residents of Oakland was quoted as saying that he didn't think that $300 a month would be enough money to keep their gangsters from shooting people. :o
One thing that the reporter said was that he could not find out what sort of criteria SF used to pick the gang members who were likely to shoot someone and were worthy of receiving the monthly bribe. Needless to say the city officials really wanted to keep that part of their program secret (or they might be overwhelmed by applicants).
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I consider myself a part of a gang, the "Over the Hill Gang", highly dangerous. I need at least $300 monthly to keep me in check. Anyone else signing up? :o ;D
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Very funny, how about 600$ or.....! ;)::)
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I wonder how many different mailing addresses & aliases you could use before they caught on? There does seem to be a basic lack of logic being applied here by the instigators.
Maybe we could swap these G'Bangers to the Taliban for Afghan female doctors, teachers & soccer players, say 10:1 with $10,000 per load to sweeten the deal? Next Day Air delivery, a win-win all around? ::)
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I wonder how many different mailing addresses & aliases you could use before they caught on? There does seem to be a basic lack of logic being applied here by the instigators.
Maybe we could swap these G'Bangers to the Taliban for Afghan female doctors, teachers & soccer players, say 10:1 with $10,000 per load to sweeten the deal? Next Day Air delivery, a win-win all around? ::)
+1 :)
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I wonder how many different mailing addresses & aliases you could use before they caught on? There does seem to be a basic lack of logic being applied here by the instigators.
Maybe we could swap these G'Bangers to the Taliban for Afghan female doctors, teachers & soccer players, say 10:1 with $10,000 per load to sweeten the deal? Next Day Air delivery, a win-win all around? ::)
Make this man president.
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Sort of like paying farmers to not grow turnips really.
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Sort of like paying farmers to not grow turnips really.
Or a f@#ing Truck company not to build trucks. ;)
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We're at it again. There are two bills on the Governor's desk in California. If he signs the bills they will become law. One would make it legal for bicycle riders to ride through stop sign-controlled intersections without stopping. (I wonder if that also includes electric-powered bicycles?) The reasoning seems to be that they already do it so why not make it legal, anyway. ::) Of course bicycle riders also ride through traffic light controlled intersections, too. So will that be made legal soon also? :o
The other proposal that could become law next month if approved by the Governor is one that would make jaywalking legal. This one was authored by a San Francisco state legislator as a way to address "social justice" since it is explained that four times as many black, poor and homeless people are being ticketed for randomly wandering across streets at locations other than intersections or other marked and legal pedestrian crossings. Personally, I always try to avoid riding into San Francisco as it is very stressful since you never know when someone will just randomly walk into the street in front of you without warning. And if you hit them, you will be at fault and perhaps be arrested and will certainly be sued by the many hungry ambulance-chasing attorneys that we have in California. It is just a pedestrian and bicycle free-for-all in many big cities in the state right now and if this proposal becomes law it will only get worse. >:(
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogger
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So just to be clear ...
Is the issue with California they have too many rules and being too restrictive - or they are removing rules and not being restrictive enough?
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So just to be clear ...
Is the issue with California they have too many rules and being too restrictive - or they are removing rules and not being restrictive enough?
I can't ever recall California removing any law of of the books. They just keep adding new ones and let them pile up to infinity. Way beyond anyone's ability to comprehend other than a relatively few that are either reported by the media because they are weird, or are specifically enforced by a dedicated government agency, or dug up by lawyers who want to sue someone in civil court and bring in some income to help pay off their new Mansion. ::)
Most state laws are unknown by the general public until they trip over them, like hitting someone who steps into the street in front of them unexpectedly while they are driving their vehicle and then they find out that it was legal to cross a street or roadway at any location and end the driver ends up being arrested for causing the accident and then sued by the formally homeless person for any injuries, mental anguish and lawyer fees that the jaywalker suffered because what they were doing was (surprise!) legal. :(
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I just heard on the news that California's governor is in the process of reviewing and potentially approving 750 new laws that were passed by the legislature this year.
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We have the right to vote, so disappearing down a singularity of despair is reserved for the Alt-Right folks. Now, way before y'all go committing suicide or the like, be aware that there is a thing called the "sunset clause":
California, like most other states, uses sunset dates or sunset clauses in their legislation. It has the effect of making the law, what’s enacted, to expire on a specified date unless the Legislature enacts another bill to either extend or eliminate the sunset date.
Generally, we see sunset dates running from one to three years to as long as a decade or more. The sunset, or sometimes called expiration or expiry clauses in other jurisdictions, are generally used to allow the legislative branch to revisit a statute.
Sunset clauses are primarily used by state legislatures. The U.S. Congress uses them sparingly. One example is the federal PATRIOT Act, where several of its provisions have sunset provisions.
There are other instances when the Legislature may want a statute to be temporary in its application. For example, legislation that’s often viewed as experimental or being tried for the first time may be subjected to a sunset clause. The Legislature may want to check on how the law has worked for a few years before they decide to make it permanent.
Another example might be controversial legislation, which may be established with a sunset date as a possible compromise. Here, the Legislature may choose to give a contested bill an opportunity to prove itself.
A sunset clause may also be appropriate when a law is necessary to address a temporary situation or perhaps fulfill a short-term need, such as a state of emergency or a disruption in the economy. The Legislature may impose a sunset date to ensure that a review is automatically triggered before the statute will be extended or made permanent.
In California, we usually see the sunset or repeal clauses in one of two forms. It usually reads, “This section shall remain in effect only until December 1st, 2020. And as of that date is repealed.” or “This section shall become inoperative on July 1, 2020, unless a later enacted statute, which becomes operative on or before July 1, 2020, deletes or extends the date on which it becomes inoperative and is repealed.”
https://www.capimpactca.com/2021/01/sunset-dates-in-legislation/#:~:text=California%2C%20like%20most%20other%20states,or%20eliminate%20the%20sunset%20date.
Things really aren't that bad.
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Stories like this make me glad to live in a sparsely populated state which for the time being is not over regulated and what seems like half the laws that are on the books aren't taken too seriously (that can be good and bad) the more people you have the greater the need to regulate all the little details of daily life. I love to visit California but don't think I would want to live there, I probably could not afford to anyway.
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Here is the latest news from California: There is a very destructive fire that started a couple of weeks ago called the Fawn Fire. So far it has burned over 8,537 acres, 41 homes and 90 other structures in Northern California, just north of Redding. It is still active and is currently 35% contained.
The woman, Alexandra Souverneva, who started the fire is a 30-year-old graduate of the California Institute of Technology. While there she obtained two chemistry degrees and at one time worked in medicinal chemistry as a research associate at the biotech companies Gilead Sciences in Foster City and Nanosyn in Santa Clara, California. In her LinkedIn profile she describes herself as a "shaman" and is a registered member of the Green Party.
Here is the punchline: This morning the news reported that she claims to have started the fire while boiling a pot of bear urine. She told investigators that she was hiking in the forest and became thirsty. She saw a large pool of liquid, which she assumed was bear urine. She decided to collect it and then boil it so that it would be safe to drink. During the boiling process (the report did not say what she was using as a pot to boil the urine) her fire got out of control and quickly started the Fawn Fire. If convicted of starting the fire she faces up to 9 years in state prison.
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I hope she gets the whole nine years with no chance of parole. It doesn't take much to start a wild fire when the woods are tinder dry. I live in the woods in the Sangre de Christo Mountains, stories like that send shivers up my spine! All it takes is one lame brained person to create all that damage.
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That's pretty funny, as the bear urine was likely sterile enough to drink directly, as the bear would have been dead otherwise. Maybe she carries a still around? Living proof that "booksmart" isn't necessarily a survival trait. Apparently she didn't know about canteens or water bottles...but she's got free room & board now.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/09/28/woman-accused-starting-fawn-fire-boiling-bear-urine-to-drink/
The Cal Fire officer who arrested her also said he believes there is a high possibility that she additionally started a separate vegetation fire the night before the Fawn Fire broke out in the city of Shasta Lake.
Souverneva faces a felony arson charge with an enhancement of committing arson during a state of emergency, according to Shasta County District Attorney Stephanie Bridgett. She could face up to nine years in state prison.
On Monday, Governor Gavin Newsom proclaimed a state of emergency for Shasta County to support the response to the destructive Fawn Fire burning north of Redding.
The fire — which started on Wednesday, possibly at the hands of Souverneva — has so far consumed approximately 8,577 acres and was 60% contained as of the latest Cal Fire update Monday evening at 7 p.m..
So far the Fawn Fire has destroyed 144 homes and other structures, causing thousands of residents to be evacuated from the area. However, improving weather conditions and cooler temperatures allowed fire crews to make progress over the weekend, raising containment to 35% as of Sunday morning.
The fire at one point threatened 9,000 buildings but the number dropped to 2,340 on Sunday. The light rain that fell periodically over parts of Northern California on Monday was also helping the efforts to contain the fire.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/26/alexandra-souverneva-arrested-on-suspicion-of-starting-california-wildfire-known-as-fawn-fire/
https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Fawn-Fire-destroys-100-buildings-winds-expected-16487075.php
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Finally some good news from California: In a moment of political weakness, late Friday night, the Governor vetoed the bill that would have made Jay-walking legal. He also vetoed a bill that would have made it legal for bicycles to roll through stop signs.
On the other hand, he signed into law a bill that allows cities to lower speed limits without performing an engineering study to see if it is warranted to do so. So all cities need to do now is to get a law passed that would allow speed-enforcement ticket-dispensing cameras to be legal and then just sit back and let the money roll in. >:(
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All my life I've seen the speed limits on city streets, street for street, higher in wealthy neighborhoods and lower in poor neighborhoods. Apparently the wealthy can "squeak harder" when limitations on their behavior are introduced and get things changed.
My favorite speed induced accident I saw was in the affluent Tucson foothills off of Skyline Drive, some aged playboy managed to launch his restored 1966 Mustang off of a straight section of road and lodge it upright, 4 wheels suspended off the ground, in a Palo Verde tree. Possession doesn't connote proficiency, it just means you have the hardware.
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I believe bear urine is an aphrodisiac, cures cancer, malaria and covid and is an excellent octane booster when added to low octane gasoline for high compression engines. It is also a great hair tonic and wards off annoying pests like dropbears (see below) and rattle snakes.
https://australian.museum/learn/animals/mammals/drop-bear/
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...and don't leave out the famous Arizona Stick Lizard and the deadly Hoop Snake... :o
https://tucson.com/news/blogs/big-jim/big-jim-the-sonoran-desert-stick-lizard/article_19cbfa70-c984-11e2-8eda-001a4bcf887a.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoop_snake
https://www.al.com/strange-alabama/2012/04/hoop_snakes_are_no_hula_hoops.html
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California school districts can get pretty creative when it comes to taking paid holidays. Yesterday I noticed that both of the elementary and high schools in my city were closed for Columbus Day. I thought that was odd, as Columbus is now hated by all Progressives in California and it was my understanding that celebrating the arrival of Columbus to the New World is very much no longer PC, especially in public schools.
About 20 years ago South San Francisco gave up Columbus Day as a paid holiday and moved the holiday to the day after Thanksgiving without a name - although now it is called Black Friday, I believe. (Frankly, I am surprised that day hasn't had its name changed. There is something about it that doesn't sound quite PC to me. It really should be called Buy Stuff From Amazon Day. ::) )
Anyway, after a little research I discovered that the local schools found a way to continue to celebrate the holiday. They just renamed the day to designate it as "Indigenous Peoples Day". Problem solved. ;) The teachers, staff and students still get the day off, they just pretend to be celebrating the people that were invaded by the Spanish, instead of the Spanish invaders. Either way, it is still a holiday and the school districts didn't have to renegotiate their union contracts to find a new holiday somewhere else in the year to celebrate.
BTW, my mail wasn't delivered yesterday and I bet the banks were closed, too. So now we can thank our Indigenous Peoples, instead of Columbus, for retaining the day as a paid-for-not-doing-anything holiday. ;D
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California school districts can get pretty creative when it comes to taking paid holidays. Yesterday I noticed that both of the elementary and high schools in my city were closed for Columbus Day. I thought that was odd, as Columbus is now hated by all Progressives in California and it was my understanding that celebrating the arrival of Columbus to the New World is very much no longer PC, especially in public schools.
About 20 years ago South San Francisco gave up Columbus Day as a paid holiday and moved the holiday to the day after Thanksgiving without a name - although now it is called Black Friday, I believe. (Frankly, I am surprised that day hasn't had its name changed. There is something about it that doesn't sound quite PC to me. It really should be called Buy Stuff From Amazon Day. ::) )
Anyway, after a little research I discovered that the local schools found a way to continue to celebrate the holiday. They just renamed the day to designate it as "Indigenous Peoples Day". Problem solved. ;) The teachers, staff and students still get the day off, they just pretend to be celebrating the people that were invaded by the Spanish, instead of the Spanish invaders. Either way, it is still a holiday and the school districts didn't have to renegotiate their union contracts to find a new holiday somewhere else in the year to celebrate.
BTW, my mail wasn't delivered yesterday and I bet the banks were closed, too. So now we can thank our Indigenous Peoples, instead of Columbus, for retaining the day as a paid-for-not-doing-anything holiday. ;D
Being self employed I never had the luxury of taking Columbus Day off, no work, no pay. Also it never meant anything to me other than the day my first serious girlfriend dumped me. Columbus didn't discover Jack and it was just another myth we were taught in school as children. For years while a holiday in New Mexico it was never celebrated as we have a large native population and the only thing it represented to them was the beginning of the theft of their land and destruction of their way of life. Fortunately NM has now changed the holiday officially to Indigenous Peoples Day and everywhere there is a more festive atmosphere. I was working in my workshop yesterday listening to the radio and the DJ was playing a lot of Native music both Pow Wow and contemporary which brought a smile to my face and made me feel good that our state got its priorities straight
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Here is another piece of history for you: When I was in elementary school we celebrated May Day by going down to the city park and parading around a tall "Maypole" while holding long ribbons of colored streamers as two groups of children walked around the pole in different directions while music played. That would form a pattern around the pole when we reached the end of our rope (so to speak). I never really understood why we were doing that, but it did get us out of class and seemed kind of an adventure at the time. At some point it became no longer PC to celebrate May Day when the USSR started to celebrate May Day by rolling tanks through Eastern Europe. :o
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Being self employed I never had the luxury of taking Columbus Day off, no work, no pay. Also it never meant anything to me other than the day my first serious girlfriend dumped me. Columbus didn't discover Jack and it was just another myth we were taught in school as children. For years while a holiday in New Mexico it was never celebrated as we have a large native population and the only thing it represented to them was the beginning of the theft of their land and destruction of their way of life. Fortunately NM has now changed the holiday officially to Indigenous Peoples Day and everywhere there is a more festive atmosphere. I was working in my workshop yesterday listening to the radio and the DJ was playing a lot of Native music both Pow Wow and contemporary which brought a smile to my face and made me feel good that our state got its priorities straight
As far as attacking Columbus Day, I found the translated diaries of Cristobol Colombo quite damning. He wiped out whole villages in his greed for gold and power. These are the thoughts of the man himself with no media spin. He was eventually returned to Spain as a prisoner.
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I'm with Karl here, history as taught is pretty myopic. The Canadian term "First Peoples" seems way more appropriate to me when referring to indigenous peoples. I have to laugh when local folk proudly refer to themselves as 3rd or 5th generation, when right down the road a bit from me is a whole village of "35th Generation (or way more)" people that were the previous "landowners".
The program below illustrates the absurdity of the US's Northern-Eurocentric view of history. The below program documents Spanish colonization of Florida many moons before the English set foot on this continent, much to the chagrin of the Mayflower Society. None of this info was actually "secret", but none of it showed up in my schools history books. In my history texts, the English pilgrims appeared and the Indian First Peoples existence was apparently inconsequential. The reality is considerably more complex. As far as Columbus being a monster, he had no hammerlock on using brutality or cruelty as a means to material gain, history is chock full of similar examples. Who we decide to elevate to significant historical status says a lot about us. It'd be good to look at our "heroes" objectively, with a bit of latitude for historical context, and not necessarily through the lens of current political correctness. Rampant brutality or cruelty in a leader has never been widely popular, regardless of whom it was directed against. We all know those traits aren't discriminatory and will be applied to the next group that crosses that leader. "To the man with a hammer, every problem is a nail"
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/secrets-spanish-florida-synopsis/3626/
The first permanent European settlement in the United States was founded in 1565–two generations before the settlements in Jamestown and Plymouth–not by English Protestants, but by the Spanish and a melting pot of people they brought with them from Africa, Italy, Germany, Ireland and even converted Jews, who integrated almost immediately with the indigenous tribes. Secrets of Spanish Florida – A Secrets of the Dead Special uncovers one story of America’s past that never made it into textbooks. Follow some of America’s leading archaeologists, maritime scientists, and historians as they share the story of Florida’s earliest settlers. It’s a story that has taken more than 450 years to reveal.
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Don't forget the Vikings. They beat out all of the other Europeans to North America. ;)
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Looks like the Vikings ended up as Newfies, eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_colonization_of_North_America
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Newfie
Newfie: The proudest people in Canada , which are from Newfoundland , Which is been called the most sexualy active province , and famous for its wide variety of bars.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58906165.amp
...everyone in Swedotopia may soon have to report to the authorities the amount of knives his neighbour has in the kitchen drawer. ;)
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Land area of Sweden: 173,860 sq miles (450,295 sq km)
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Land area of Sweden: 173,860 sq miles (450,295 sq km)
And you need a stack of dynamite if you wish to plant a potato. ;)
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Total population of Sweden: 10,302,984.
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Total population of Sweden: 10,302,984.
That would be about 1/4 the number of legal residents in The People's Republic of Kalifornia.
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Here's some truthiness for Der Ottonen -
“The Battle of Copenhagen”
Ten thousand Swedes ran through the weeds,
chased by one Norwegian.
Ten thousand more ran to the shore
in the battle of Copenhagen.
Way, way back in history,
back when the world was new,
norwegian searched all over,
to find some snoose to chew.
They fished for Lutefisk and Torsk,
it helped to make them strong,
and you and me, we know a Norsk,
cannot do nothing wrong.
But swedes and danes were envious
of Viking trips and raids.
The Viking shields and helmet horns,
made all those folks affraid.
Throughout the world the Vikings sailed,
to Ireland and to France.
The even found America,
one afternoon by chance.
My grandpa says, and he should know,
the swedes made up the minds.
To beat the Norsky Vikings,
and kick a few behinds.
But history, so grandpa says,
show that the Norskies won.
They clobbered all the swedes and danes,
and made it lots of fun.
Ten thousand swedes ran through the weeds,
chased by one norwegian.
The dust from the weeds,
made snoose for the swedes,
and they called it Copenhagen,
E. C. Stangland
https://exploringeuropeandrussia.wordpress.com/2013/11/29/10000-cowardly-swedes-ran-through-the-weeds-chased-by-one-courageous-norwegian/comment-page-1/
" Actually, the two Battles of Copenhagen in recorded history involved the British, not the Swedes. This poem seems to be more like folklore than actual history. Such English language rhymes might have originated in the American midwest, as a way of differentiating Norwegians from Swedes, according to James P. Leary in Wisconsin Folklore.
It’s funny that the ditty made it all the way back from America to Norway, and was quoted to me by a proud Norwegian. "
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It should be no big surprise but Greta showed up at the international climate conference in Scotland this week. She was shown in a 30-second clip on the TV news last night, surrounded by a mob of admiring young people. She yelled to them that the leaders at the conference were not really climate change leaders but they (the mob and her) are. ;) (End of the clip - it was a quickie. ::) )
I am waiting for her plan to solve global warming, but so far I haven't heard yet. :-X
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I'm waiting for somebody to finally end the seasonal weather changes, I'm not a big fan of skiing.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58906165.amp
...everyone in Swedotopia may soon have to report to the authorities the amount of knives his neighbour has in the kitchen drawer. ;)
Concealed knives are OK but displaying them is really bad Feng Shui .
Chain saws are another matter, when I lived in QLD this woman locked her hubbie out of the house because he came home too drunk so he grabbed the chain saw out of the ute and attacked the front door with it to get in.
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Concealed knives are OK but displaying them is really bad Feng Shui .
Chain saws are another matter, when I lived in QLD this woman locked her hubbie out of the house because he came home too drunk so he grabbed the chain saw out of the ute and attacked the front door with it to get in.
I suppose he was the owner of the house? In such a case i would say it's his right to get in even if he needs dynamite to get in. ;D
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I suppose he was the owner of the house? In such a case i would say it's his right to get in even if he needs dynamite to get in. ;D
And give her one eh? How dare she inpose on his freedumb by defending herself.
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Der Ottonen - In our "civilized" states with castle laws, chainsaw boy would get promptly ventilated by the threatened spouse. Your ideas of property owner rights need serious upgrading. Property ownership doesn't mean you are entitled to terrorize the occupant. The wife is co-owner, I'm certain she didn't agree to destroying the door. Cops on scene would take one look at the still smoking chainsaw & butchered door, the drunk idiot on the front step bleeding out through a 1' hole in his sternum, shake their heads and just call the meatwagon. "Another case of Arizona/Texas justice" or "Another Darwin Award Winner"
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Der Ottonen - In our "civilized" states with castle laws, chainsaw boy would get promptly ventilated by the threatened spouse. Your ideas of property owner rights need serious upgrading. Property ownership doesn't mean you are entitled to terrorize the occupant. The wife is co-owner, I'm certain she didn't agree to destroying the door. Cops on scene would take one look at the still smoking chainsaw & butchered door, the drunk idiot on the front step bleeding out through a 1' hole in his sternum, shake their heads and just call the meatwagon. "Another case of Arizona/Texas justice" or "Another Darwin Award Winner"
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I agree with your ideas of civilised world however how do you know he was drunk and missus didn't make the story up?
There certainly have been more man destroyed by fake stories than women by chainsaws.
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https://youtu.be/xZf1OPEchkg
...i suppose the captain of that flight will be the next Darwin Award winner.
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The video, whilst entertaining, had nothing to do with either the premise or intent of the Darwin Awards. One demerit for no effort.
https://darwinawards.com/
>> So how are the Darwin Awards actually determined?
Nominees significantly improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from the human race in an obviously stupid way. They are self-selected examples of the dangers inherent in a lack of common sense, and all human races, cultures, and socioeconomic groups are eligible to compete.
Actual winners must meet the following criteria:
Reproduction: Out of the gene pool: dead or sterile.
Excellence: Astounding misapplication of judgment.
Self-Selection: Cause one's own demise.
Maturity: Capable of sound judgment.
Veracity: The event must be true. <<
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Yeah, however if you live in a mothership it's rather deadly not to give that "mother" her way. From that perspective he looks like a candidate to me. Supposedly fatherships work better with the mother occasionally sneaking in. Well VW worked better atleast, as long it was a fathership. ;D
Seems to be deteriorating rather rapidly. :o ;D
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C19 Deadly? But C19's all a hoax, right? Just a world wide plot agin'nus, yes? Designed to get us to take the nanobot infested/squidgy bits sterilizing/parasite riddled mind control vaccine?
The only deterioration is the upcoming WW3 in the Pacific with the PRC. A Central Planning Gummint whose military runs on diesel recently declares a diesel shortage for civilians. The same Gummint declares the general public should now stock up on rations in case of "disaster". The very same one that has been openly taunting Taiwan inside their own airspace & cruising warships off their coast, a coast only 160 miles from the Chinese Mainland and well inside Chinese air cover which now boasts hypersonic anti-ship missiles. Start bombing on the Chinese mainland to neutralize their air defenses and then the shit well & truly starts. China's 50 & 80 year plans, the "Belt & Road" initiative, their 2,000,000 strong PLA, none of that is to our advantage. "Success favors the well prepared" & that ain't us.
Likely around Xmas the internet will conveniently whip the complicitly gullible over here into CW2 over mandatory layoffs from non-compliance with public health policy, and College level Civics courses that aren't even offered to the grade school kids that their PTA parents are worked up & screaming about. Once we're busy at home dealing with insanity induced bullshit, Taiwan's screwed & maybe Australia is next. Fighting a long distance Naval war in shallow water under foreign air cover isn't a recipe for success. We'll see if the American general population can toggle from "fun 'n games" mode back to reality long enough to survive. Given the high levels of general public denial of reality, it'll take a lot to change that.
The stores are still relatively well stocked, mebbe a good time to get those 50 pound bags of rice & beans we've been putting off. Get some canned goods as well - they're always tradable commodities.
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You got a point there if that PCR seizes Taiwan the PlayStation might be in short supply. You know how much I care? ::)
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You got a point there if that PCR seizes Taiwan the PlayStation might be in short supply. You know how much I care? ::)
I saw an anti-PCR video (there are a lot of them on YouTube lately) a couple of weeks ago that said all Taiwan had to do to bring China to its knees is to stop sending them bubble tea. If they did that the citizens of China would overthrow the government. ;D Now that is the way to win a war. ;)
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@ 498: The former CCCP has unfinished business in the Baltics, it's unlikely a handy Alt-Right revolution would stay contained in Los Estados Unidos if it provided a convenient distraction methodology. But I'm sorry, the external world stops at the epidermis, right?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54878679-cocoon
" This is a very short (24page) story from 1963. Some strangely hypnotic form of TV has enabled everybody to live "a full life" immobile in nutrient baths. The resemblance to FaceBook addiction is shocking. "
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-02/chinese-warning-to-stock-food-causes-worried-online-chatter
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I saw an anti-PCR video (there are a lot of them on YouTube lately) a couple of weeks ago that said all Taiwan had to do to bring China to its knees is to stop sending them bubble tea. If they did that the citizens of China would overthrow the government. ;D Now that is the way to win a war. ;)
Or drugs, like in the opium wars.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
...I doubt it would work though, their leadership would figure it out again. ;D ...maybe free PlayStations and a bunch of free games to their industry workers and engineers to dumb them down. Ohhh, wait a minute, thats what we in Europe doing to ourselves. ;D ;D ;D ...worked out well as motivational boost as long as the core competency was still sound.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bernhard
How about trying Operation Bernhard and push lots of cash in their workers accounts so they stop going to work?
...shit, we doing that to ourselves too already too, main income source is now Asperger in the north european hemisphere. :o ;D
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Why ever would you print money? Use Bitcoin, it's good as gold, right? ::)
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Why ever would you print money? Use Bitcoin, it's good as gold, right? ::)
But its value is not quite as stable. ::)
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" ....but if we all just believe...." And so it goes. Baseball cards, tulips, collectable figurines, etc., etc.
But the only one I know to be true - "Wealth is a bag of rice." The Good Earth, Pearl S Buck
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...and in Jabs we trust, atleast tulips don't have an impact on your health, on your wallet at worst. Here the sofar acknowledged collateral damage.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/B-9-2021-0475_DE.html
It seems they want to use "public" money to fund the compensation of the covid jab victims. WOW, the poor pharmaceutical industry.
It should become with cars and bikes like that too, no warranty. The customer is responsible for his purchase. ;D Who would care if statisticaly 1% of all brakes on a vehicle would fail for unknown reasons? Apparently nobody.
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...and in Jabs we trust, atleast tulips don't have an impact on your health, on your wallet at worst. Here the sofar acknowledged collateral damage.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/B-9-2021-0475_DE.html
It seems they want to use "public" money to fund the compensation of the covid jab victims. WOW, the poor pharmaceutical industry.
It should become with cars and bikes like that too, no warranty. The customer is responsible for his purchase. ;D Who would care if statisticaly 1% of all brakes on a vehicle would fail for unknown reasons? Apparently nobody.
You won't even see such acknowledgement of side effects in the U.S. ,at least not publicly let alone talk of compensation. Sign a waiver, get the jab and good luck. Not really a vaccine? Simply create a new definition, problem solved. Big Pharma has had a field day with all of this and will continue to do so as they are now rolling out treatment drugs that have been ramrodded through. We live in a world desperate to make this pandemic go away so some risk is acceptable, but how much? A good friend and former client who is a doctor will tell me in private that the flu shots that people get every year have a percentile of individuals who receive it that will have serious side effects, covid, more so. Then there is the specter of 5 years or less down the road of a large wave of auto immune diseases that could be the result of the current covid vaccines, a very real possibility. We do leave ourselves open to such thing when we start messing with our physiology on a molecular level. Will big Pharma step up to subsidize those treatment expenses? Hardly, once again they'll profit while tax payers take the hit either collectively through federal programs or individually when left out in the cold to deal with it on their own.
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Greta was back on the BBC World News last night. She was shown speaking to a crowd of her supporters again, this time from a stage instead of surrounded by a mob. She was talking about the COP21 conference and said (and I quote): "Blah, blah, blah". No doubt that resonated with her supporters. ;)
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https://m.futurecar.com/4954/Brembo-Unveils-a-Breakthrough-Electro-Mechanical-Brake-System-Called-SENSIFY-Thats-Powered-By-AI
Speaking of brakes, I think this has potential. In comparison to EV's per se it's got the advantage of not needing a battery and the overall energy input needed is rather small. It probably can be made to actuate more dynamically than an hydraulic brake boosted by the vacuum pressure in the intake manifold. Downside at first might be cost and the unfortunate tendency of geeks to implement unwanted functionality in an electronically controlled device.
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...actually anything, if I see or hear an ABBA song ever again I'm going to seriously dig it.
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Maybe need to look more at the fine print on this one.
" it's got the advantage of not needing a battery and the overall energy input needed is rather small. "
This is an all electronic fly-by-wire brake system. Without electron flow you are SOL. Apparently there are different flavors, a "hybrid" system that uses hydraulic punps & "sort of" regular calipers, and an electrically operated caliper version. All of that implies a fully functional electrical system. The CPU knows all, sees all, does all here, right up until it doesn't. It's unspecified what happens then, whether it freewheels or locks up tight.
Good informative write up.
https://newatlas.com/automotive/brembo-sensify-brake-by-wire/
The potential negatives here are fairly clear; with no physical connection between pedal and calipers, you'll be completely powerless to stop yourself if your car goes completely powerless, or there's a software glitch, or an EMP takes out your computers, which to be fair doesn't happen much these days in nicer neighborhoods. It's unclear what kind of failsafe measures can be built into this kind of system, although potentially there could be some kind of dead man's switch in the system capable of applying the brakes mechanically in the absence of electronic input.
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Well ya, it's not likely you will need an huge battery with many Ah energy storage to power those brakes. Redundancy on a four wheel vehicle is likely to be double compared to pure hydraulic systems, in another words one cpu for each wheel. The fail safe functionality can be designed in such a way that braking power is engaged when power is not available.
Well, why making things easy when you can make them complicated. ;D
https://youtu.be/EkRYuMqw-B0
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Well ya, it's not likely you will need an huge battery with many Ah energy storage to power those brakes. Redundancy on a four wheel vehicle is likely to be double compared to pure hydraulic systems, in another words one cpu for each wheel. The fail safe functionality can be designed in such a way that braking power is engaged when power is not available.
Well, why making things easy when you can make them complicated. ;D
https://youtu.be/EkRYuMqw-B0
My feeling is that the reason why things become more and more complicated as time goes on is that engineers and designers want to keep their jobs and feel that to do that they had better continue to revise and update their company's products even if it is not really necessary. ::)
And that goes double for government legislators and regulators everywhere. >:(
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The issue might be that if someone spends millions on making this thing work and it doesn't turn up to be competitive enough to catch hold on the market they may spend millions on regulations to make it mandatory on certain type of vehicles to see a return.
It's a sales strategy i'm not exactly a big fan off.
There might be a real market potential in replacing the intake tract vacuum boosters though with something more dynamic, IMHO.
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There might be a real market potential in replacing the intake tract vacuum boosters though with something more dynamic, IMHO.
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A small Hoover under the hood might do the trick.
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It seems to me that the last mechanical technology that the "average" Greasy Herbert could deal with was what we're riding now, the 1940's sourced Bullet 350 & 500. A 70 - 80 MPG engine that can largely be maintained with simple hand tools seems a good solution to transportation. I'm not seeing how a highly fuel efficient, simple design is a threat to the environment, but providing folks a tool they can comprehend & keep running might be a threat to planned obsolescence & repeat sales.
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I probably wouldn't want to be rebuilding an Yamaha 4 cyl. engine at home. By the time you collect the required tools and knowledge the riding season would be over for sure. The UCE took me 2 days lazy work and minimal cost for spares, since it's now a 40+ hp machine it's competitive on the road with most single cylinder bikes with the exception of the extremely powerful 690cc KTMs which I wouldn't want to be rebuilding at all either for any practical purpose. As I see it, most of the modern expensive stuff riders are people who get money shovelled into their ars.
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+1 to that brother. The ability to discriminate between "Wants" vs "Needs" is sadly lacking anymore. Your "Hi-Tech" 40HP, 100+ MPH, 80 MPG UCE is still repairable by the everyman, a Hayabusa not so much.
I think the Indians were on the right track - give folks what they need, keep people employed, the result is less civil unrest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appropriate_technology
A real social problem today is advertising creating a demand by stimulating dissatisfaction or creating an artificial "need". Facebook and the like are wonderful mechanisms for doing just that.
I continue to be amazed when I see people in very 3rd world countries marching in the streets & waving the very cell phones the Western folks have. Talk about a mind control device, folks everywhere will even pay to possess it. BF Skinner would be proud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner
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First time I have ever seen "less civil unrest" and "India" in the same sentence. :D
It is far from the peaceful subcontinent full of Guru's meditating in orange robes people seem to imagine.
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Too many rats in the Skinner box create issues. Australia has about 2 folks per square mile, the USA has maybe 85, Canada 3, India 386, Israel 319, Pakistan 215, the Phillippines 777, China 140-ish, Bangladesh 1,146, Lebanon 388, Rwanda 898.
Most trouble free (arable) places you actually might want to live seem to have 100 or less folks per square mile.
https://www.infoplease.com/world/population/population-density-square-mile-countries
1906, Alfred Henry Lewis “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.”
The Hindu and Muslim populations in India seem to have a long history of sectarian violence, even before the British showed up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Islamic_relations#:~:text=There%20have%20been%20periodic%20instances,the%20Hindu%20and%20Muslim%20communities.
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First time I have ever seen "less civil unrest" and "India" in the same sentence. :D
It is far from the peaceful subcontinent full of Guru's meditating in orange robes people seem to imagine.
That's the thing, ever since the global warming "prayers" and "gurus" took over it looks looks like a RE will be about the highest technological achievement an average man will be able to deal with. Suck everyone out and stuff it in electric s#$it vehicle development that is a certain birth failiour, distribute free propaganda tools, brainwash everyone into believing that green energy is going to save the day and soon we all live in a mega ghetto with some sheiks and maharajas who are the idols of our politicos that can do anything with us including mandating deadly jabs. Thank you very much.
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..mandating deadly jabs...such as ... Polio? Rabies? Measles, Mumps & Rubella? Diphtheria? Pertussis? Shingles? Smallpox? Tetanus? HPV? Hepatitis? Tuberculosis? Typhoid? Encephalitis?
You are welcome to "survive" as many of these viral diseases as you can acquire in your travels. The rest of us will likely just get the appropriate vaccine. Not too long ago steel plows were shunned, as the farmers believed they pulled the nutrients out of the soil.
Not one anti-vaxxer, when finally pulled off intubation for Covid, has rasped out "I wish you'd let me die", they all say they wish they'd gotten the jab.
And these new $700-per-treatment Covid meds, there's never been any problems with taking newly developed drugs, right? Thalidomide ring a bell?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_withdrawn_drugs
And Bill Gates would never think of hiding his nanobots/parasites/trackers/generic mind control wetware in an opaque pill form, right? At least in the vaccine you can see the nanos glittering in the actinic dystopian lamplight, their little chrome bodies twined about the brain parasites just before they get injected.
Wait, wait, Bill's sending me a new message...damn, call got dropped.... :-[ :o
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..mandating deadly jabs...such as ... Polio? Rabies? Measles, Mumps & Rubella? Diphtheria? Pertussis? Shingles? Smallpox? Tetanus? HPV? Hepatitis? Tuberculosis? Typhoid? Encephalitis?
...by the way the jab doesn't work anymore because the virus "officially" mutated. Now politicos talking about booster jabs. You know you can take a tank to shoot at flies, I don't care however I'm not to afraid of them. If people want to inject themselves with an experimental jab every 2 or 3 months it's fine with me. But nobody has the right to make anyone else take it.
Well Bill Gates probably spent more on mandating the jabs than on the development of those jabs for sure, it's got to throw a profit. He can certainly shake hands with our car industry. You know, all this would not bug me at all, Elon can build as many electric vehicles as he likes as long as the people who do NOT want one don't have to pay for it, including myself.
This is what happens when Bill Gates enters a bar, glad not be inside.
https://youtu.be/qJyIiDt9x2E
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What ever happened to Novavax a very promising more traditional vaccine that was pushed aside in favor of the mRNA variety. Last I knew it has been relegated to the overseas market. Big Pharma again? following the money will usually lead you to the truth. Now we are seeing cases of people who are young, healthy with no pre existing conditions who have been vaxxed with the mRNA varieties and are dying from covid......and people are up to jab # 3 now and counting. How many boosters will people have in a year from now at this rate continuing to load their bodies at a DNA level with a vaccine that is literally being tested as we go? There is a huge risk of switching on immune responses that can't be controlled. The originator of this med technology has been quoted as saying it was never intended for this use, it is a very long way from being perfected. If this goes in the direction I think it will prepare yourself for large future waves of auto immune diseases though out our population along with other unforeseen consequences. You might say that I'm just a guy with greasy finger nails who used to pound nails for a living so what does he know. I am fortunate to have a close family member who's background is in chemistry and micro biology and at one point was lab director for a hospital laboratory who will not get the current mRNA vaccine for love or money. Many of that persons contemporaries feel the same, this includes numerous doctors.
I'm not anti vax but pro lets get something safer and more realistic vax like the well researched ones we have had in the past in a less politicized atmosphere. Covid 19 has all the attributes of an engineered virus that has been loosed on us by accident or design and is going to take some time to solve if ever, maybe herd immunity by attrition will be the only solution like it or not. Poorly controlled and supervised research in the field of micro biology and it's uses in warfare have made a bad outcome a reality for decades now. Possibly the chickens have come to home to roost.
As said before I am not anti vax and I wear a mask, social distance and take every precaution until hopefully something more viable in the way of a vaccine comes along here in the States. Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread.
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The latest news from The People's Republic, according to the AP, is that Elon Musk took a poll on Twitter asking if he should sell 10% of his $300 billion Tesla stock holding. (Don't ask me why, perhaps it is a case of one idiot trying to get advice from other idiots. ::) ). Two hours after asking that question 876,189 members of that brain trust voted that he should sell 10% of his Tesla stock before Biden tries to tax it. Yesterday the percentage of the Twitter mob recommending that he sell his stock had risen even more. This morning Tesla lost something like 6% of its stock value. Economic (Twitter) mob rule at work. :o
BTW, Musk said that he doesn't get paid in cash for his job at Tesla. Instead he receives stock (which doesn't get taxed until he sells it). Apparently that doesn't make "Progressive" legislators very happy as they are sure that they could spend his money better than he could by giving it away to "under-served" communities in their voting districts. ;)
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I certainly find it interesting that everyone seems to be waiting for Elon to start the sell-off. Apparently most of his investors don't have much clue what they bought into, on the other side Elon can now probably buy the entire auto industry - in theory.
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:-[ :o
I lolololol'd ;D
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...by the way the jab doesn't work anymore because the virus "officially" mutated. Now politicos talking about booster jabs. You know you can take a tank to shoot at flies, I don't care however I'm not to afraid of them. If people want to inject themselves with an experimental jab every 2 or 3 months it's fine with me. But nobody has the right to make anyone else take it.
Absolutely. people should have the right to refuse the vaccine.
The problem in Australia is the unclean, zombie infested plague carriers want to inflict themselves on the rest of the population and get upset when told "it is your choice to be unvaccinated and our choice to stay right away from you".
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@ #525: "...by the way the jab doesn't work anymore because the virus "officially" mutated "
...where do you come up with these kornklushuns? Like has been said about a billion times over the last 18 months now, as C19 mutates the original vaccines tend to lose some efficacy, but still work to keep you out of hospital. Nobody said you'll not get a fever or chilblains. Do you have any recall of the various incarnations of Hepatitis A, B, C, D, etc.? That virus got meaner, but vaccines still largely keep it at bay. You still are better off not sharing needles under a pier or eating shellfish downstream of the waste treatment facility.
MRNA tech has been under test since maybe 1960, and used in the lab since the 1980's. Get some citations from reputable sources to support your flights of wishful thinking, don't rely on navel gazing or Janine Pirros daily utterances. Actual life or death stuff has likely been studied by actual professional subject matter experts. Their word has some gravitas - the rest is just entertaining noise for the spouter.
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Here's something to consider, interesting choice of target for Chinas PLA Rocket Force. Likely to be more of an ultimate threat to you than "the jab". Get those 22 Kg. bags of rice & beans collected up soon...
BBC: Satellite images appear to show mock-up US warships in China desert
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-59210417
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@ #525: "...by the way the jab doesn't work anymore because the virus "officially" mutated "
...where do you come up with these kornklushuns? Like has been said about a billion times over the last 18 months now, as C19 mutates the original vaccines tend to lose some efficacy, but still work to keep you out of hospital. Nobody said you'll not get a fever or chilblains. Do you have any recall of the various incarnations of Hepatitis A, B, C, D, etc.? That virus got meaner, but vaccines still largely keep it at bay. You still are better off not sharing needles under a pier or eating shellfish downstream of the waste treatment facility.
MRNA tech has been under test since maybe 1960, and used in the lab since the 1980's. Get some citations from reputable sources to support your flights of wishful thinking, don't rely on navel gazing or Janine Pirros daily utterances. Actual life or death stuff has likely been studied by actual professional subject matter experts. Their word has some gravitas - the rest is just entertaining noise for the spouter.
Reputable sources. ::) ...read the newspaper.
You can glue a flat tire with a chewing gum, it works, it really does. Just keep the pressure low enough.
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Here's something to consider, interesting choice of target for Chinas PLA Rocket Force. Likely to be more of an ultimate threat to you than "the jab". Get those 22 Kg. bags of rice & beans collected up soon...
BBC: Satellite images appear to show mock-up US warships in China desert
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-59210417
Those fake U.S. Navy warships made the TV news last night. I figure they are plastic ship models made by Revell with a big magnifying glass placed over them to make them look larger. ;)
When I was a teenager, my friend and I would build ship models and shoot at them with B-B guns. We would get points for knocking off the gun turrets on each other's ship. The one that hit all of the opponent's ship's guns first won the battle. After that we would use the B-B guns to destroy the rest of the models, just to have more fun. ;D Those were the days when shooting a B-B gun in town would not get you arrested and the gun confiscated. :(
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@ #533: Still no actual sources cited. Making up your own facts is a popular pastime, but it just takes you farther down the rabbit hole.
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@ #533: Still no actual sources cited. Making up your own facts is a popular pastime, but it just takes you farther down the rabbit hole.
Hopefully full with some cute bunnies. ;D
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Just go get your jab already!! :D :D :D
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Those fake U.S. Navy warships made the TV news last night. I figure they are plastic ship models made by Revell with a big magnifying glass placed over them to make them look larger. ;)
When I was a teenager, my friend and I would build ship models and shoot at them with B-B guns. We would get points for knocking off the gun turrets on each other's ship. The one that hit all of the opponent's ship's guns first won the battle. After that we would use the B-B guns to destroy the rest of the models, just to have more fun. ;D Those were the days when shooting a B-B gun in town would not get you arrested and the gun confiscated. :(
I still have my Daisy BB gun from when I was twelve, I can't count how many times over the years I gave it away and it somehow ended up back in my possession. It seems it was meant to be a keeper. It stays it in my workshop and when friends come over with their grandkids we plink soda cans. Amazing that the spring still has tension but even when it was new the muzzle velocity was so slow you could watch the BB travel all the way to the target. It must have fired a million BB's by now. They built things to last in 67.
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Hmmm, my sources come directly from the medical community, not filtered through the media or anyone with an agenda, no fortunes to be made, just the people in the trenches and the research they do and their experiences. The great thing about the internet is if you wanted to prove God lives on Mars and poops peanut butter cookies sooner of later you can find enough links to substantiate that. ::)
Edit: I watch credentialed medical professionals publish well researched papers on the web, if they don't fall in lockstep with the status quo they are quickly scrubbed. Yes there are plenty of crack pots out there but these ain't them. It seems as though there is only one official voice in all of this, not a good thing.
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Just go get your jab already!! :D :D :D
The intentions of those are too obvious. ;D
You said rabbit hole not Ausschwitz.
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There is no logical connection between the items you mentioned, just innuendo & conflation.
Seriously, if the "ideer" was to blow down the genpop to functional levels, this is a hella stupid/inefficient way to get there. To wait until the biome is pretty degraded, the climate is toggling back to the Mesozoic and you have nearly 8 Billion "conqueror monkeys" to deal with is really doing it the hard way. Doesn't sound like a "plan" to me, just an excuse for an entertaining dip in the paranoia pool of gibberish.
The one celled animals have existed for going on 1,000,000,000 years, virus & prions likely even longer. They have repeatedly proven they are the toughest life forms around. Give them a large food supply, enough time to find a good starting point, then stand back and watch the totally predictable fun. We humans are certainly working on the "banquet" end of that.
"Hot soapy water will cure a multitude of ills, son..." (A Navy Master Chief's wise words of advice to fresh recruits, just before they departed on shore leave, circa 1965)
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I still have my Daisy BB gun from when I was twelve, I can't count how many times over the years I gave it away and it somehow ended up back in my possession. It seems it was meant to be a keeper. It stays it in my workshop and when friends come over with their grandkids we plink soda cans. Amazing that the spring still has tension but even when it was new the muzzle velocity was so slow you could watch the BB travel all the way to the target. It must have fired a million BB's by now. They built things to last in 67.
That reminds me of when I was in the Air Force basic training and learning to shoot a very well used 30 caliber WWII carbine. The muzzle velocity of the bullet was so low that you could watch it travel to the target 100 yards away. I managed to get an expert medal firing that piece of junk by lobbing it into the air. When I tried out an M16 it was much easier to shoot as the bullet actually followed where the gun's sights were pointing. I once tried out an M16 on a bi-pod shooting it fully automatic. What a waste of ammunition. I was shooting at an old car and I had no idea where the bullets were going as the rifle was jumping all over the place. That was the last time I shot a gun while in the Air Force.
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It seems as though there is only one official voice in all of this, not a good thing.
This, exactly this. The Swedocrats have now only one nuts and bolts expert and anyone who wants to design a screw for any application has to consult with that person. Will be interesting what happens once all swedish companies line up to get their screws approved. Competition is a bad thing. ;D
So either that guy gets a stroke or he is backed with the swedish police including their military in which case everything comes to a full stop.
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When I was a teenager, my friend and I would build ship models and shoot at them with B-B guns. We would get points for knocking off the gun turrets on each other's ship. The one that hit all of the opponent's ship's guns first won the battle. After that we would use the B-B guns to destroy the rest of the models, just to have more fun. ;D Those were the days when shooting a B-B gun in town would not get you arrested and the gun confiscated. :(
Actually radio controlled model battleships with the turrets firing BB pellets trying to sink each other is a really big thing these days ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXwq8Pd8VWo
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This, exactly this. The Swedocrats have now only one nuts and bolts expert and anyone who wants to design a screw for any application has to consult with that person. Will be interesting what happens once all swedish companies line up to get their screws approved. Competition is a bad thing. ;D
So either that guy gets a stroke or he is backed with the swedish police including their military in which case everything comes to a full stop.
Sweden has an unusual right for its people that is called ‘the freedom to roam’. It means that people have the right to access all public and private land that is not cultivated (or that is a garden attached to a house) and can camp where they wish. It also confers the right to pick berries, flowers and mushrooms without a permit.
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Sweden has an unusual right for its people that is called ‘the freedom to roam’. It means that people have the right to access all public and private land that is not cultivated (or that is a garden attached to a house) and can camp where they wish. It also confers the right to pick berries, flowers and mushrooms without a permit.
That swedish mob is most welcome here to get the triple jab. They get in anywhere they like, if not they call the police claiming something suspicious is going on on that private property. They don't bother consulting with the owner or manager of that property and make an appointment. One jab a month seems about appropriate.
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Sweden has an unusual right for its people that is called ‘the freedom to roam’. It means that people have the right to access all public and private land that is not cultivated (or that is a garden attached to a house) and can camp where they wish. It also confers the right to pick berries, flowers and mushrooms without a permit.
I understand that kind of program worked well for first the Pilgrims and then later every other North and South American European immigrant. :( (Eventually followed by the real estate Title Insurance industry. ::) )
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Early days, life red in tooth & claw...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emigrants_(film)
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Those days you can take a pilgrimage to Sweden if you wish to see a tiny tobacco store with four cctv cameras pointing at you each connected to a different security company. A robber never comes across except when a new security service company wants to establish themselves in the town and put a 5th cctv camera in that shop and they don't even sell alcohol in there.
I really think if Volvo produced couple of hand built vehicles even if they did sell them on loss it would be an better idea than employ everyone in the monitoring of everything bussiness.
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Sweden has a lot of cold, empty ocean surrounding it. I don't really believe most robbers/muggers/white collar thieves are ignorant of the fact that what they are doing is wrong. Just have maybe 5% disappear yearly after stealing more chain than they could swim with, that'll get the point across to the rest. The Swedes, Danes & Norwegians are certainly no strangers historically to "frontier justice" from what I've read. Most absurd legal coddling stems from that "profit thing". Lawyers fees & for-profit prisons are quite the windfall for the folks at the top actually funding legislation.
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Sweden-based warriors and traders sailed as far away as Russia, Constantinople, and even Baghdad. A band of Swedish Viking warriors was so admired by the Byzantine emperor Theophilos that he invited them to serve as his personal bodyguards, and they became known as the Varangian Guard.
The Hagia Sophia in what is now Istanbul bears graffiti carved in Old Norse runes that was probably left by one of these Varangian guardsmen, reading “Halvdan carved these runes.”
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Sweden-based warriors and traders sailed as far away as Russia, Constantinople, and even Baghdad. A band of Swedish Viking warriors was so admired by the Byzantine emperor Theophilos that he invited them to serve as his personal bodyguards, and they became known as the Varangian Guard.
The Hagia Sophia in what is now Istanbul bears graffiti carved in Old Norse runes that was probably left by one of these Varangian guardsmen, reading “Halvdan carved these runes.”
There's Viking blood on both sides of my family due to just that!
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https://youtu.be/3XzGoPSPuPo
Here a destination for a pilgrimage AzCal may consider. ;D
You know those ladies there they really love you. ;)
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"Hot soapy water will cure a multitude of ills, son..."
Sounds like the voice of experience speaking! ;D ;D ;D
So apparently you HAVE been vaccinated - good on ya!
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"Hot soapy water will cure a multitude of ills, son..."
Sounds like the voice of experience speaking! ;D ;D ;D
So apparently you HAVE been vaccinated - good on ya!
Well there is nothing above a good caring austrian government, one jab shot a day, all for free. ;) ;D
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Looks like you were in good, experienced hands there! Did they live up to their motto " The customer always comes first"?
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Looks like you were in good, experienced hands there! Did they live up to their motto " The customer always comes first"?
They didn't offer those kind of services last time i was passing throu about 12 years ago. World has changed, maybe it's destined now to become a popular tourist destination? Back than Austria was good for skiing at best and cycling through the mountains in the summers. However it's known to be a birth place of famous dictators, so finally they're living up to that spirit.
Well yeah, the Pope said on TV a day ago that taking the jab is an act of love, who would have thought. :o ;D
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I assume this is what you are banging on about:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/12/austria-province-to-place-millions-of-unvaccinated-people-in-covid-lockdown
" The World Health Organization said Europe was once again “at the centre” of the pandemic, with Covid cases at or surpassing record levels, because of uneven vaccine coverage and a relaxation of preventive measures. It said 500,000 more deaths were forecast in the region by February.
Coronavirus deaths rose by 10% across the continent over the past week, making it the only world region where both Covid-19 cases and deaths are steadily increasing, according to a WHO report.
Germany’s outgoing health minister, Jens Spahn, said on Friday the country faced a “bitter December” if immediate measures were not taken, as he announced a return to free testing from Saturday and plans to introduce a rule that would mean only people who had proof of vaccination or recovery from Covid could attend cultural or sporting events. They will also have to produce a negative test.
Germany recorded record infections for three days in a row this week. On Friday it reported almost 49,000 cases, with numbers doubling every week.
The government’s disease control agency, RKI, called for the cancellation of major events, just as the carnival season gets under way and Christmas markets are about to open. RKI’s head, Lothar Wieler, said the fourth wave was “rolling on full power”, describing the situation as “five minutes past 12”.
In an effort to boost a flagging vaccine campaign, including encouraging top-up jabs, Spahn said doctors would receive €28 (£24) instead of €20 a jab, and a further bonus for jabs given at the weekend.
In the Netherlands, the government was expected to announce new lockdown measures on Friday after a record number of daily infections – 16,364 – were registered. According to media reports there are plans for a three-week set of restrictions, including a 7pm closing time for restaurants, pubs and non-essential shops and a restriction on the size of private gatherings in households to just four additional people.
Austria has the lowest vaccination rate of any western European country apart from Liechtenstein, according to data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. The chancellor said on Thursday that the rate was “shamefully low”.
Many Austrians are sceptical about vaccinations, a view encouraged by the far-right Freedom party, the third biggest in parliament. Schallenberg said on Thursday: “I don’t see why two-thirds should lose their freedom because one-third is dithering. For me it is clear that there should be no lockdown for the vaccinated out of solidarity for the unvaccinated.”
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That sounds a LOT like the hoohaa going on over here with OUR alt-Reich folks. Come on, vaccine passports! Or get your brown shirts ironed, looks like they may come into play soon enough. It won't take much for Xi Jinping & Putin to create a diversion (CW2?) when they need one, we're too busy playing "Fight Club" to pay attention to the real threats. WW3 will be a map changer for certain.
https://www.ducksters.com/history/world_war_i/causes_of_ww1.php
The real causes of World War I included politics, secret alliances, imperialism, and nationalistic pride. However, there was one single event, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria, which started a chain of events leading to war.
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I went out for a ride this morning along the coast as it was 70 degrees at the time and I wanted to get out before the traffic got heavy. On the way back at an intersection that connects to my subdivision I saw a fellow on a 10' tall unicycle crossing the highway from the beach. It is a mystery to me how he manages to get on that thing and also to ride it in the wind. The unicycle wheel was about 16" in diameter and was driven by a long chain or belt. Not my idea of transportation. :o
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Many Austrians are sceptical about vaccinations, a view encouraged by the far-right Freedom party, the third biggest in parliament. Schallenberg said on Thursday: “I don’t see why two-thirds should lose their freedom because one-third is dithering. For me it is clear that there should be no lockdown for the vaccinated out of solidarity for the unvaccinated.”
Next week onwards the freedom loving politicians running the show in Austria are going to introduce a next lock-down only for the unvaxxed citizens. That should sell a handful of more jab doses and put little bit more money into the bank accounts of the needy and helpless such such as Bill Gates.
So disobeying the rules that violate constitutional rights probably even in some of the least advanced countries on this planet is now far-right. Who would have thought.
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Next week onwards the freedom loving politicians running the show in Austria are going to introduce a next lock-down only for the unvaxxed citizens. That should sell a handful of more jab doses and put little bit more money into the bank accounts of the needy and helpless such such as Bill Gates.
So disobeying the rules that violate constitutional rights probably even in some of the least advanced countries on this planet is now far-right. Who would have thought.
Well, you are ignoring the rights of those that need non-Covid hospital treatment and can't get it because all the beds are full of unvaxxed citizens 'exercising their rights'...
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Well, you are ignoring the rights of those that need non-Covid hospital treatment and can't get it because all the beds are full of unvaxxed citizens 'exercising their rights'...
I'm not. There is an shortage of everything those days. There is now even shortage of piss which they call AdBlue. In an command and control economy politicos can create a shortage in anything they like. If a Hospital has 100 beds just make a rule that the distance between patients has to be 30 feet, send the staff into home office, throw 90 beds and you have a shortage of places in the hospital. Most people prefere to do nothing anyway especially since we apparently don't pay the abundance of doctors good enough. Additionally to that I wouldn't be surprised if the hospitals were full of vaxxed people, who would tell the truth anyway.
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I'm not. There is an shortage of everything those days. There is now even shortage of piss which they call AdBlue. In an command and control economy politicos can create a shortage in anything they like. If a Hospital has 100 beds just make a rule that the distance between patients has to be 30 feet, send the staff into home office, throw 90 beds and you have a shortage of places in the hospital. Most people prefere to do nothing anyway especially since we apparently don't pay the abundance of doctors good enough. Additionally to that I wouldn't be surprised if the hospitals were full of vaxxed people, who would tell the truth anyway.
So are you saying that every health department in every country is intentionally reporting false figures? Stats are pretty bloody obvious, if you raise your head above the conspiracy parapet.
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@ #562: Now you are just making stuff up. It's widely reported that after 18 months of this, hospital staff world over are getting very tired of dealing with C19 cases that have never bothered to get the jab for "emotional" reasons. Every health care worker I've talked to feels the same. Only 1 in 20 C19 cases involve vaccinated people. It's a lot of fun to believe there is a worldwide conspiracy to fool you specifically, but that's way too much effort/energy expenditure to actually happen. It's enough for these folks to try and just do their daily job as healthcare workers.
" Additionally to that I wouldn't be surprised if the hospitals were full of vaxxed people, who would tell the truth anyway. " That's willfully ignorant, records are kept of all C19 vaccinations given. Folks that were vaccinated who end up in hospital would be asking "Why me? I was vaccinated!", not denying that they had got the jab.
https://www.cdc.gov › mmwr › volumes
" During April 4–June 19 (2021), fully vaccinated persons accounted for 5% of cases, 7% of hospitalizations, and 8% of deaths overall "
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@ #562: Now you are just making stuff up. It's widely reported that after 18 months of this, hospital staff world over are getting very tired of dealing with C19 cases that have never bothered to get the jab for "emotional" reasons. Every health care worker I've talked to feels the same. Only 1 in 20 C19 cases involve vaccinated people. It's a lot of fun to believe there is a worldwide conspiracy to fool you specifically, but that's way too much effort/energy expenditure to actually happen. It's enough for these folks to try and just do their daily job as healthcare workers.
Sources? ...so you saying anyone who took the jab took it for logical reasons? That's probably the best joke ever. Supposedly Germany has a vaxxrate of 80%, a country of masters in logical thinking.
Definitely no shortage of guinea-pigs taking already 3rd jab in a row. I'm very pleased not have to test everything myself. ;)
https://www.westernjournal.com/stats-sweden-said-no-covid-lockdowns-suffered-much-less-european-countries/
Natural immunity beats politics and those covid scientists any time. I suspect the Sweds finally got tired of being guinea pigs for everything. Good on them, why testing an engine on road when you can do it in a rig before you release it on mankind.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-10/why-j-j-is-in-bankruptcy-court-even-though-it-s-not-bankrupt
Very smart move by Johnson & Johnson, bankruptcy as precaution to avoid any liability for their products. Well, maybe that's what Musk will do once he sold of the Tesla shares and stored the cash in something more sustainable?
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Wow - that's your citation source? Right off the bus from crazytown. You keep working on that natural immunity thing, OK? Didn't work out so well for the Aztecs, Inuit's, or a big chunk of Europe in the 1300's. It's all good until you are on the losing side of the immunity wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Western_Journal
Controversy
Western Journalism previously stated it featured "conservative, libertarian, free market and pro-family writers and broadcasters"[9] and seeks to provide "God-honoring" content.[5] In practice, according to the New York Times, this philosophy, in which "tradition-minded patriots face ceaseless assault by anti-Christian bigots, diseased migrants and race hustlers concocting hate crimes," results in "a torrent of sensationalized, misleading, or entirely made-up stories, often aimed at Muslims and immigrants."[7] Because of negative rulings by fact-checking sites and user trust surveys, Western Journalism was blacklisted by Google and Apple News, and by 2017 its Facebook traffic declined to near zero.[7]
In a 2016 story on how fake news spreads on social media, The Intercept reported that: "Thanks to views sourced largely to referrals from Facebook, Brown's websites now outrank web traffic going to news outlets such as the Wall Street Journal, CBS News, and NPR, according to data compiled by Alexa".[10]
In February 2019, The Western Journal published an article which alleged "Climate Change 'Heat Records' Are a Huge Data Manipulation." Scientists criticized the article, saying it was deceptive and that it contradicted existing research. The Western Journal subsequently retracted the article.[11]
" Natural immunity beats politics and those covid scientists any time. "
Hmmm...Spanish Influenza, 1918? Polio?...Yellow Fever?....Zika?...
https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox
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Wow - that's your citation source? Right off the bus from crazytown. You keep working on that natural immunity thing, OK? Didn't work out so well for the Aztecs, Inuit's, or a big chunk of Europe in the 1300's. It's all good until you are on the losing side of the immunity wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Western_Journal
Controversy
Western Journalism previously stated it featured "conservative, libertarian, free market and pro-family writers and broadcasters"[9] and seeks to provide "God-honoring" content.[5] In practice, according to the New York Times, this philosophy, in which "tradition-minded patriots face ceaseless assault by anti-Christian bigots, diseased migrants and race hustlers concocting hate crimes," results in "a torrent of sensationalized, misleading, or entirely made-up stories, often aimed at Muslims and immigrants."[7] Because of negative rulings by fact-checking sites and user trust surveys, Western Journalism was blacklisted by Google and Apple News, and by 2017 its Facebook traffic declined to near zero.[7]
In a 2016 story on how fake news spreads on social media, The Intercept reported that: "Thanks to views sourced largely to referrals from Facebook, Brown's websites now outrank web traffic going to news outlets such as the Wall Street Journal, CBS News, and NPR, according to data compiled by Alexa".[10]
In February 2019, The Western Journal published an article which alleged "Climate Change 'Heat Records' Are a Huge Data Manipulation." Scientists criticized the article, saying it was deceptive and that it contradicted existing research. The Western Journal subsequently retracted the article.[11]
" Natural immunity beats politics and those covid scientists any time. "
Hmmm...Spanish Influenza, 1918? Polio?...Yellow Fever?....Zika?...
https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox
Who needs facts when made up shite will do? It’s much easier too and once it’s been shared a dozen times it becomes truth.
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So the Spanish who came to America were flue vaxxinated i suppose. That must be a fact than. ;D
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So the Spanish who came to America were flue vaxxinated i suppose. That must be a fact than. ;D
Again, you’re misconstruing the facts of our situation. Eurasia's dense populations, high levels of trade, and living in close proximity to livestock resulted in widespread transmission of diseases, including from animals to humans. Smallpox, measles, and influenza were the result of close proximity between dense populations of animals and humans. Natural selection endowed most Eurasians with genetic variations making them less susceptible to some diseases, and constant circulation of diseases meant adult individuals had developed immunity to a wide range of pathogens. When Europeans made contact with the Americas, European diseases (to which Americans had no immunity) ravaged the indigenous American population, rather than the other way around.
In this pandemic we are in the same position as the indigenous Americans, not the Spanish.
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And there we go. I fully support your view, the remaining question is who are the Spanish.
Also the indigenous Americans didn't exactly die out because of the flue but were weakend by it to fight back. Anyway I sincerely hope someone makes it to Vatican and injects a hundred shots of that vaccine into that popes ars.
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" Also the indigenous Americans didn't exactly die out because of the flue but were weakend by it to fight back. " Really?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/16/mexico-500-years-later-scientists-discover-what-killed-the-aztecs
Why did 90% of the Aztec die?
On Monday scientists swept aside smallpox, measles, mumps, and influenza as likely suspects, identifying a typhoid-like “enteric fever” for which they found DNA evidence on the teeth of long-dead victims. ...Jan 16, 2018
I heard the USAMRIID is looking for guinea pigs with "tough" immune systems for Ebola live virus vaccine testing. Maybe a way to pick up some spare cash. Lifetime pensions for the survivors!
You are just flailing. What do you expect would logically happen in your ultra-right live-or-die every-man-for-himself brave new world? How long would you last in a perform-or-die, survival-of-the-strongest milieu? What always happens when the gap between have & have-not becomes too wide? We've tried the "when you're used up or sick just crawl under a bush & die" medical system, it's very disruptive to a functional society. It takes cooperation and some empathy for even a small tribe to survive, let alone a technological society. Living at the Neolithic level means you don't have much control over your food supply and machinery more complicated than an atlatl is tough to come by.
If C19 had a 20% (1 in 5) mortality, we wouldn't be having absurd conversations like this. There would be no anti-vaxxers, the lines outside Walmart, Walgreens & CVS would be a mile long, we wouldn't be whinging about having to wear masks or keep our hands washed. The fact we still have a functioning medical system keeping the kill rate to 0.2 % (1 in 500) instead of 2% (1 in 50) allows the paranoid the breathing room and free time to spin & spread their imaginary conspiracies. I love the idiots bathing in borax & cutting into their vaccination sites to "extract the vaccine". There's some dysgenic evolution for you.
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Wow, Ebola now. If Ebola was managed the same way as Covid everyone would have it by now all over Europe. But maybe the "Spanish" bring upon us something like Ebola NXT time.
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https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/coronavirus/state-cases-among-vaccinated-rising-in-new-mexico/article_a9380fba-41c0-11ec-b3dc-67e9136aabd3.html
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Good article. The CDC article echoed the Santa Fe New Mexican findings. The best tools we have are the vaccine and masking. Just because a tool isn't perfect doesn't mean it isn't useful. Denial of breeding resources (our bodies) to the virus over time breaks the chain of transmission. Masks, hand hygiene & distancing discipline can do this if applied. If no steps are taken, first hospitals collapse, then a cascading effect occurs. We've already seen examples of this last year with reefer trucks full of bodies outside medical centers and people with normal life threatening injuries being turned away. The outcome to doing nothing is predictable. At the population densities we now have, things would get very ugly. New Mexico is lucky that there is a lot of open space, sunshine & dry air; good choice!
" But Ross said people have grown weary of having their lives crimped and would be less willing to shelter in place and avoid group settings at this point in the pandemic. “Our risk-taking behavior is changing over time because we’re so far into this.”
Right now, 100 percent of coronavirus cases in the state are caused by the delta variant, she said. After the vaccine rollouts, the infection curve bent downward until July, when the variant struck, and has since rebounded.
“This is very, very concerning,” Ross said. “This is certainly not the direction we want to go in.” The delta variant is two to four times more infectious than the coronavirus of a year ago, Scrase said. He added: “Just ask yourself … am I being two to four times more careful this year?” "
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html
Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science : Updated Aug. 26, 2021
On July 27, 2021, CDC released updated guidance on the need for urgently increasing COVID-19 vaccination coverage and a recommendation for everyone in areas of substantial or high transmission to wear a mask in public indoor places, even if they are fully vaccinated. CDC issued this new guidance due to several concerning developments and newly emerging data signals.
First, a significant increase in new cases reversed what had been a steady decline since January 2021. In the days leading up to our guidance update, CDC saw a rapid and alarming rise in the COVID-19 case and hospitalization rates around the country.
In late June, the 7-day moving average of reported cases was around 12,000. On July 27, the 7-day moving average of cases reached over 60,000. This case rate looked more like the rate of cases we had seen before the vaccine was widely available.
Second, new data began to emerge that the Delta variant was more infectious and was leading to increased transmissibility when compared with other variants, even in some vaccinated individuals. This includes recently published data from CDC and our public health partners, unpublished surveillance data that will be publicly available in the coming weeks, information included in CDC’s updated Science Brief on COVID-19 Vaccines and Vaccination, and ongoing outbreak investigations linked to the Delta variant.
Delta is currently the predominant variant of the virus in the United States. Below is a high-level summary of what CDC scientists have recently learned about the Delta variant. More information will be made available when more data are published or released in other formats.
Infections and Spread
The Delta variant causes more infections and spreads faster than early forms of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19
The Delta variant spreads more easily than other variants
The Delta variant is more contagious: The Delta variant is highly contagious, more than 2x as contagious as previous variants.
Some data suggest the Delta variant might cause more severe illness than previous variants in unvaccinated people. In two different studies from Canada and Scotland, patients infected with the Delta variant were more likely to be hospitalized than patients infected with Alpha or the original virus that causes COVID-19. Even so, the vast majority of hospitalization and death caused by COVID-19 are in unvaccinated people.
Unvaccinated people remain the greatest concern: The greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated people who are much more likely to get infected, and therefore transmit the virus. Fully vaccinated people get COVID-19 (known as breakthrough infections) less often than unvaccinated people. People infected with the Delta variant, including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit the virus to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit the virus.
Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others. However, vaccinated people appear to spread the virus for a shorter time: For prior variants, lower amounts of viral genetic material were found in samples taken from fully vaccinated people who had breakthrough infections than from unvaccinated people with COVID-19. For people infected with the Delta variant, similar amounts of viral genetic material have been found among both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people. However, like prior variants, the amount of viral genetic material may go down faster in fully vaccinated people when compared to unvaccinated people. This means fully vaccinated people will likely spread the virus for less time than unvaccinated people.
Vaccines
Vaccines in the US are highly effective, including against the Delta variant
The COVID-19 vaccines approved or authorized in the United States are highly effective at preventing severe disease and death, including against the Delta variant. But they are not 100% effective, and some fully vaccinated people will become infected (called a breakthrough infection) and experience illness. For all people, the vaccine provides the best protection against serious illness and death.
Vaccines are playing a crucial role in limiting spread of the virus and minimizing severe disease. Although vaccines are highly effective, they are not perfect, and there will be vaccine breakthrough infections. Millions of Americans are vaccinated, and that number is growing. This means that even though the risk of breakthrough infections is low, there will be thousands of fully vaccinated people who become infected and able to infect others, especially with the surging spread of the Delta variant. Low vaccination coverage in many communities is driving the current rapid surge in cases involving the Delta variant, which also increases the chances that even more concerning variants could emerge.
Vaccination is the best way to protect yourself, your family, and your community. High vaccination coverage will reduce spread of the virus and help prevent new variants from emerging. CDC recommends that everyone aged 12 years and older get vaccinated as soon as possible.
Masks
Given what we know about the Delta variant, vaccine effectiveness, and current vaccine coverage, layered prevention strategies, including wearing masks, are needed to reduce the transmission of this variant
At this time, as we build the level of vaccination nationwide, we must also use all the prevention strategies available, including masking indoors in public places, to stop transmission and stop the pandemic. Everyone who is able, including fully vaccinated people, should wear masks in public indoor places in areas of substantial or high transmission.
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Well said Az. With all the conspiracist white noise; the essential messages easily get lost...
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...well so much technicality certainly overstresses my brain, the blue colour hurts my eyes being just a mechanic. I guess i enjoy my remaining days on this planet with the mentally underprivileged unvaxxed children of this world. Well look at the bright side, atleast the music is getting really good...
https://youtu.be/6Cp6mKbRTQY
...unfortunately the artist is dead already, probably unvaccinated.
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He committed suicide whilst on holiday.
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He committed suicide whilst on holiday.
He was really loved in Sweden.
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Now THAT's a sentiment I could get behind! ;D
Makes waaay more sense than lots of other protests I hear about... 8)
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Aaagh! That noise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvhncr1Ztdc
A.
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The first dose vaccination rate in Canberra is over 100% - which sounds like nonsense until you realise the population has increased slightly since the last census 3 years ago. Regardless the hesitancy rate is minimal and the double dose figure is hitting 99% .
Which means the streets of Canberra will soon be full of Zombies if my conspiracy theory "I am a special snow flake with special secret knowledge" friends are to be believed :D
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The first dose vaccination rate in Canberra is over 100% - which sounds like nonsense until you realise the population has increased slightly since the last census 3 years ago. Regardless the hesitancy rate is minimal and the double dose figure is hitting 99% .
Which means the streets of Canberra will soon be full of Zombies if my conspiracy theory "I am a special snow flake with special secret knowledge" friends are to be believed :D
Luckily you chaps are quite good at the cricket...
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Grown-ass, voting, tax-paying, church-going, "educated" US citizens actually do this stuff... :o
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/11/13/anti-vaxxers-recommend-bathing-in-borax-other-detox-to-undo-covid-19-vaccines/?sh=150ff31c38e3
Yet, an osteopathic doctor, Carrie Madej, DO, recently claimed in a TikTok video that you should take a bath after vaccination to “detoxx the vaxx.” And she wasn’t recommending a standard bubble bath. Instead, this bath included baking soda and epsom salts to remove the “radiation,” Bentonite clay to pull out the “poison,” and, yes, one cup of borax to “take nanotechnologies out of you.”
From the "South China Morning Post": ( you just KNOW they gotta be laughing their asses off...)
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3156000/anti-vaxxers-who-got-covid-19-shots-take-bath-borax?module=perpetual_scroll&pgtype=article&campaign=3156000
Vaccines can’t be removed after injection, contrary to cupping video
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-114075493325
Fact check: False claim that cupping therapy can remove COVID-19 vaccine from the body
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/29/fact-check-cupping-therapy-not-remove-vaccine-body/5915728001/
“Cupping The Vax After 30 Mins Of Injection,” reads text over a cupping video that was shared to Instagram on Sept. 28 and accumulated more than 600 views within a day. “Video showing the removal of the vax content within 30 mins of jab.”
The clip shows someone speaking Russian as he makes small cuts in another person's arm, places a suction cup over the area and removes blood from the body.
“Unbelievable! Man decided he wants to remove the contents of the jab 30 mins after receiving it, by cutting with a razor and cupping the blood,” one user captioned a Sept. 23 Instagram video with more than 3,000 views.
Similar versions of the claim have recently been shared to Instagram, blog pages and TikTok, many of which assert that the vaccine coagulates the blood.
However, experts say it is not possible to remove a vaccine after it has been injected because they are injected deep into the muscle.
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Who said you can lead the horses to the water but you can't make them drink?
Apparently someone can. Well, i may as well wait for version 4.321 with update xkb123 that's going to be on/off switchable via bluetooth.
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I'm waiting for booster # 24 in about 6 months time and then get them all at once.
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Tough choices here. But after 18 months of this, statements like "Carina says she doesn't understand the rationale behind the lockdown" really don't hold water. If you are actually unable to comprehend the logistics of how disease transmission works, that's a personal problem. If you are using that statement as a smokescreen to avoid disclosing your real motivation, that's quite another issue. In any event, Karl Wellers statement at the end is chilling - what a golden opportunity for Xi Jinping & Putin to instigate a diversionary operation. Heads up Baltic States & Australia. "President for life & Dear Leader" Xi Jinping told Biden today "Those that play with fire get burned." He's coming for Taiwan soon, and there's a ready made 5th column in the USA & Europe. Xi's recent words to the Chinese public to "Stock up in case of a disaster" might well be heeded here too.
BBC News, Covid: The country locking down the unvaccinated - By Bethany Bell - BBC News, Vienna - Published9 hours ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59298323
Carina, a yoga teacher in Vienna, is not vaccinated against Covid-19 and wants to remain that way.
So she is now under lockdown, like around two million other unvaccinated Austrians.
She is only allowed to leave her home for essential reasons like work or shopping for food, and is barred from cafés and restaurants. So I met her in a Vienna park, where she is allowed to take exercise.
Carina says she doesn't understand the rationale behind the lockdown and that it makes her feel sad.
Doris, who was out in central Vienna, said she was losing patience with those who refuse to get jabbed.
"The only solution is that we all have to be vaccinated. That's the only solution. Otherwise, we have the problem for quite a long time. And we really want to get rid of it."
Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg says the government was forced to act because of the surge in new infections.
He said the vaccination rate was "shamefully low" and would "keep us trapped in a vicious circle, from one lockdown to the next".
Since the measures tightened, more Austrians have been getting jabbed. Long lines have formed outside one Vienna vaccination centre. Some were coming for booster shots, others for their first injections.
Dr Thomas Szekeres, head of the Austrian Medical Chamber, says he is hoping the vaccination rate will rise to 80% or more.
"We know that vaccination is the only way to decrease the number of infections," he says. "We know this from other countries. We hope that the lockdown for unvaccinated Austrians will be enough to decrease the number of infections. But the experts are not sure about that. Maybe we will need additional measures to reach the goal to decrease the number."
Many Austrians have welcomed the increase in vaccinations, but some are concerned the lockdown for the unvaccinated isn't constitutional.
Karl Weller, a Viennese businessman, told me he is very much in favour of the jab. "It is necessary for our health and our economy," he said. "But I think it's a catastrophe, to divide between the vaccinated and not vaccinated. People start to become more and more angry and they are afraid."
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Juxtaposed to all of that are Blue states with high rates of inoculations who have locked down in the beginning and have followed the prescribed protocols and are now experiencing soaring rate cases again and break through infections which in more than a few cases are lethal. Some may draw the conclusion that the current vaccines are not having the success rates the media would lead us to believe. While I did exaggerate the number in my previous post, seriously, in the short time the vaccine has been available and we are up to three now and counting, is this really a sustainable measure? Einstein's definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. I'm not even mentioning the risk facture that comes with the current vaccine. We are not going to vax our way out of the pandemic with what is available now, we really need is something better if such a thing is possible. Why aren't we more focused on that then drawing a line down the middle and warring with one another as either vax or anti vax. Big Pharma profits and politicains on both sides of the aisle make political hay while the populace is mired down in the realities of this and being handed half assed solutions.
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Juxtaposed to all of that are Blue states with high rates of inoculations who have locked down in the beginning and have followed the prescribed protocols and are now experiencing soaring rate cases again and break through infections which in more than a few cases are lethal. Some may draw the conclusion that the current vaccines are not having the success rates the media would lead us to believe. While I did exaggerate the number in my previous post, seriously, in the short time the vaccine has been available and we are up to three now and counting, is this really a sustainable measure? Einstein's definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. I'm not even mentioning the risk facture that comes with the current vaccine. We are not going to vax our way out of the pandemic with what is available now, we really need is something better if such a thing is possible. Why aren't we more focused on that then drawing a line down the middle and warring with one another as either vax or anti vax. Big Pharma profits and politicains on both sides of the aisle make political hay while the populace is mired down in the realities of this and being handed half assed solutions.
California stats:
From October 25, 2021 to October 31, 2021, unvaccinated people were 6.9 times more likely to get COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.
From October 18, 2021 to October 24, 2021, unvaccinated people were 9.8 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.
From October 11, 2021 to October 17, 2021, unvaccinated people were 16.9 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.
https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/
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I just returned from getting my third Moderna booster shot. Attached is a photo of the line to get into the vaccination clinic at Kaiser Hospital. I took this picture while I was about halfway down the line.
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Why don't you carefully read the New York times article I posted on what is going on in my state as well as other blue states that towed the line from day one. and then tell me how wonderful the vaccine is working. If you walk away still thinking the current vaccines are the magic bullet, end all and be all solution then you're smoke'n some pretty good weed. The "well it kinda works and you need endless monthly boosters" is not good enough for me, hopefully we can do better. I have several friends who died from covid and others who were very sick and still have lingering issues from the virus and that is just in a small community. Most vaccinated people are blissfully unaware that they can still spread the virus and go merrily on their way doing just that. Who cares as long as I can go to the ball game or on vacation or to my favorite restaurant where I can magically eat without a mask in a crowded indoor environment without spreading it, that in itself is pushing the numbers up but is an inconvenient truth. Once jabbed people become very pious yet unaware or the wreckage they leave in their wake. I take the virus seriously and still mask and distance, these simple precautions have got me through the last 18 months without catching it. When it comes to the vaccines out there I think smoke is being blown up our collective asses. There are viable means for prevention and treatment in the works that are being suppressed or put on the back burner and I am not talking about horse wormer and shining flashlights in our anal canals. If you do not have a direct link to the medical community you will not even hear of most of them. We need way more objectivity when it comes to handling the pandemic, being sold on our recent cure all will not get us back to normal. One of us is right and one of us is wrong, it will be interesting to re visit this thread to see where we are in this whole mess and if the current vaccines got us out of the woods. A five year re visit will tell us whether there is a huge surge in our population of auto immune diseases from this era of vaccinations. Meanwhile the stats in your last post don't jive with what is going on around me, elsewhere maybe but not here as our numbers continue to rise. I hope your location does not see the same but if the trend continues it probably will.
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meh - it is a Darwinian thing.
Which ever side is wrong will all die or turn into zombies or something and the human gene pool will be improved as a result.
Unfortunately in Australia there is free medical for all which is going to reduce the overall effectiveness of the Darwinian influence on the future gene pool.
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If I turn into a Zombie I will be sure to let you know. ;)
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I hear you. I am vaxxed up and I still mask up. I can read what the CDC website says about asymptomatic spread and how the vaccinated can participate. Right now at least 50% of the genpop is asymptomatic anyway and absolutely do not give a shit what happens in their wake. Your point regarding simple, commonsense measures is well taken, but sadly, this is "Amurrika" where even the ignorant can vote. During a bio-contaminated drinking water issue, simple waterborne disease countermeasures like boiling your drinking water is an excessive effort for most folks. C19 generally has a 2% kill rate with no medical care, right now we're only at a 0.2% rate, nearly 750,000, even with all our failings. But the hospitals are still working for most of us. If that changes through willful neglect, look out. Look how something as simple as masking up got politicized by opportunists.
If as you say in 5 years there is a huge surge in auto-immune cases, it would be a bad day at Black Rock to be a Pfizer, Moderna or Bayer executive in a country full of highly irate deer hunters. I don't believe they could keep a 500 yard "clean zone" around themselves for their next 20 years.
We have plenty of auto-immune diseases already, many appear to be initiated or worsened by environmental chemical exposure. Not a big outcry there, yet...
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@ #593 - your ride is waiting! ;D ;D ;D
https://newatlas.com/motoped-pro-cruzer-survival-black-ops-moped/34730/
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@ #593 - your ride is waiting! ;D ;D ;D
https://newatlas.com/motoped-pro-cruzer-survival-black-ops-moped/34730/
Actually this is my preference for "post Covid-Apocalypse" 2 wheeled transport - nice big gun and a leg shield to ward off potentially infectious splattered zombie blood ...
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#589
Why don't you carefully read the New York times article I posted on what is going on in my state as well as other blue states that towed the line from day one. and then tell me how wonderful the vaccine is working. If you walk away still thinking the current vaccines are the magic bullet, end all and be all solution then you're smoke'n some pretty good weed. The "well it kinda works and you need endless monthly boosters" is not good enough for me, hopefully we can do better. I have several friends who died from covid and others who were very sick and still have lingering issues from the virus and that is just in a small community. Most vaccinated people are blissfully unaware that they can still spread the virus and go merrily on their way doing just that. Who cares as long as I can go to the ball game or on vacation or to my favorite restaurant where I can magically eat without a mask in a crowded indoor environment without spreading it, that in itself is pushing the numbers up but is an inconvenient truth. Once jabbed people become very pious yet unaware or the wreckage they leave in their wake. I take the virus seriously and still mask and distance, these simple precautions have got me through the last 18 months without catching it. When it comes to the vaccines out there I think smoke is being blown up our collective asses. There are viable means for prevention and treatment in the works that are being suppressed or put on the back burner and I am not talking about horse wormer and shining flashlights in our anal canals. If you do not have a direct link to the medical community you will not even hear of most of them. We need way more objectivity when it comes to handling the pandemic, being sold on our recent cure all will not get us back to normal. One of us is right and one of us is wrong, it will be interesting to re visit this thread to see where we are in this whole mess and if the current vaccines got us out of the woods. A five year re visit will tell us whether there is a huge surge in our population of auto immune diseases from this era of vaccinations. Meanwhile the stats in your last post don't jive with what is going on around me, elsewhere maybe but not here as our numbers continue to rise. I hope your location does not see the same but if the trend continues it probably will.
Are you equally skeptical of vaccines for diseases such as polio, measles, smallpox, hepatitis, flu etc, or is it just RNA vaccines you don't like?
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I don't have a beef with most of those. The flu vaccine I find questionable as to some of the properties that are incorporated into it, that and the fact that the manufacturers have to predict what the strain will be for the season and don't always hit the target. For the elderly I think it can be a life saver and worth doing. When I was younger it seemed as though I caught the flu every year, Flu shots helped some but about 18 years ago I came across an immune booster mushroom compound that I take and have not had the flu since. I'm into diet and nutrition, eat mostly organic and get a lot of exercise as well, dragged into it kicking and screaming by my heath conscience wife I see the value of it now. I'm just saying in that instance not everything good for us has to come from a laboratory. I am a believer in sound sciences and medicine, I am a skeptic of most things until they are well proven. The Mrs. has degrees in both chemistry and micro biology. We both look for a balance when it come to prevention and maintenance when it comes to healthy living. Too much information, I know but that's where I'm coming from.
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I don't have a beef with most of those. The flu vaccine I find questionable as to some of the properties that are incorporated into it, that and the fact that the manufacturers have to predict what the strain will be for the season and don't always hit the target. For the elderly I think it can be a life saver and worth doing. When I was younger it seemed as though I caught the flu every year, Flu shots helped some but about 18 years ago I came across an immune booster mushroom compound that I take and have not had the flu since. I'm into diet and nutrition, eat mostly organic and get a lot of exercise as well, dragged into it kicking and screaming by my heath conscience wife I see the value of it now. I'm just saying in that instance not everything good for us has to come from a laboratory. I am a believer in sound sciences and medicine, I am a skeptic of most things until they are well proven. The Mrs. has degrees in both chemistry and micro biology. We both look for a balance when it come to prevention and maintenance when it comes to healthy living. Too much information, I know but that's where I'm coming from.
Interested in what your objections are to the C19 vaccines?
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Interested in what your objections are to the C19 vaccines?
They main complaint seems to be they are " new and untested" basically because the general public had not heard of them before, plus RNA sounds a bit like DNA therefore it must be bad right ?
The idea that it is new and untried is nonsense. In reality the RNA basic tech has been around since the 70's, it was first tested for vaccines in the 90's, has been in use in animal and veterinary vaccines for a while and there were even a few therapeutic cancer use cases looked at a few years back and a working and safe Ebola vaccine developed but it turned out to not be needed. I remember it hitting the news back around 2014/2015 when the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation invested $53 million in a German company developing better RNA vaccines. RNA tech was always seen as promising as it looked much safer than normal vaccines - but it was never commercially viable to get products through the red tape at the time.
Irony is the same people that are complaining about Government red tape and too much regulation are now saying mRNA vaccines should be banned as they need to go through a "more rigorous" Government testing process. Go figure.
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They main complaint seems to be they are " new and untested" basically because the general public had not heard of them before, plus RNA sounds a bit like DNA therefore it must be bad right ?
The idea that it is new and untried is nonsense. In reality the RNA basic tech has been around since the 70's, it was first tested for vaccines in the 90's, has been in use in animal and veterinary vaccines for a while and there were even a few therapeutic cancer use cases looked at a few years back and a working and safe Ebola vaccine developed but it turned out to not be needed. I remember it hitting the news back around 2014/2015 when the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation invested $53 million in a German company developing better RNA vaccines. RNA tech was always seen as promising as it looked much safer than normal vaccines - but it was never commercially viable to get products through the red tape at the time.
Irony is the same people that are complaining about Government red tape and too much regulation are now saying mRNA vaccines should be banned as they need to go through a "more rigorous" Government testing process. Go figure.
Medicating a person who is not sick never goes down well, but thats the theory and history of vaccination. I haven't yet seen a rational argument against this RNA vaccine, given the known outcome of severe C19 illness.
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Having had the privilege to work in the automotive sector with lot of managers who have no other clue than "save money" for the company, why testing in a rig when you can calculate, simulate, evaluate in nice meetings with lot free coffe and choose their staff by looks and eloquence rather than competence and merrits.
Afterall it's companies and their primary interests are profits, why bother much with testing when by the time the testing would have been accomplished the virus would have vanished or mutated and all the work invested would have been gone to waist. Why bother much with risk when he who approves and legalises bears the responsibility. That would be the gob. and gob. doesn't care because it can only delegate responsibility, in this case to you.
Push all cost and risk down for everything to the taxpayer and keep the profits is the motto of the day. Only blood, sweat and tears for me, only heaven and free stuff to Carina & Doris. Sounds like a good foundation for an lesbian relationship between those two. Sounds almost like a Austria & Sweden shake hand. :D
There is an saying and it says for free is the death, i wouldn't be surprised if it to small extend materialises with those vaXXines.
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Except it is the most tested vaccine in history…
What’s truly bizarre is the lack of public fuss over the damage caused by the Sackler family. 500,000 dead from opioids and no one is on the street waving flags about that… Trump or otherwise.
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Except it is the most tested vaccine in history…
What’s truly bizarre is the lack of public fuss over the damage caused by the Sackler family. 500,000 dead from opioids and no one is on the street waving flags about that… Trump or otherwise.
...but the virus is not. I don't know what the Sacklers did, however i doubt they mandated their drugs on the whole world.
I'm amazed to see a new mutation of the electric vehicles every year, maybe one day they will mutate as far as being on pair with the ice vehicles and maybe the covid19 mutates into something more deadly than ebola. Who knows, although the likelihood of the second is probably higher.
Also if it was it possible to eliminate the risk of a flu through vaccines, why is the flue still around?
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Interested in what your objections are to the C19 vaccines?
The basis of the mRNA vaccines are for the body to make its own protein or in essence its own vaccine. The chief med officer of Moderna has been quoted as saying "We are hacking the software of life", that in itself I don't find reassuring. This is done at a molecular level, the possible dangers here are that triggers will be activated in our immune response that can not be shut off which is classically an auto immune disorder. In one study of the vaccine the anti spike anti bodies were found to attack our bodies own cells and healthy tissue so there is some concern of neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinson's or Alzheimer's as a long term heath risk, my other concern with this is the highly accelerated clinical trials and lack of true long term testing. To me in it is being tested on the population as a hail Mary pass. The waiver you sign when you get your shot absolves the pharmaceutical co. of all responsibility, if this all goes wrong the buck stops where?
Let's back this up a bit, since 1881 vaccines have been protein based , subunit technology that exposes the immune system so it can recognize the invader and develop a protective response to it, this is the technology that is behind all the childhood immunizations you received and is also the basis of the current covid vaccine Novavax which is being pushed aside for the mRNA type. Why is this, for something that has been rushed through clinical trials taking precedence over more long term well researched technology. Again where is the objectivity that is needed in true research? The smell of money is very strong around this.
Back to the current popular vaccines and virus mutation. All viruses mutate and the mRNA shots are of the type that do not 100% kill the virus but treats and attenuates its symptoms which is why even if you have had your shot and multiple boosters you can still get the virus and pass it on. This is also why they had to change the definition of vaccine to even make it qualify as one. Not the case with the traditional vaccines that worked on a full kill rate when triggered that let your immune system eliminate the virus. This was the marvel and success to that type of vaccine. Taking this a step further if mRNA vaccines are not fully eliminating the virus then it is encouraging the mutation of the virus as is the nature of them and helping to fuel the pandemic, evidence of which we are beginning to see in states like Vermont and New Mexico that early on have had high rates of inoculations with the mRNA vaccines but once again watching their numbers shoot up .
This is just part of my problems with the current wonder vaccine my list is a long one. While I don't encourage people to get it every individual should have the right to make that choice if they are fully informed of all the consequences. The irony here being that mRNA vaccine may well be an enabler to mutations and future variants. I don't like seeing my fellow human beings be a guinea pig to these experiments but as long as I can sit on the sidelines a bit longer so be it.
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I got my third shot yesterday and I am starting to think about having brains for breakfast. :o I wonder if Kellogg makes a sugar-coated brain cereal? The breakfast of Zombies. ;D
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When people do turn zombie from the vaccine I fear for their well being as so many of the non zombies out there have so little in the way of brains to provide a sufficient meal for them. ::)
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When people do turn zombie from the vaccine I fear for their well being as so many of the non zombies out there have so little in the way of brains to provide a sufficient meal for them. ::)
I have one spare shirt that I saved on my escape from Sweden, i will gladly ship it to Richard once he is finally zombified. Only thing I'm not sure of is if I'll be able to afford the shipping cost. ::)
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Sounds like a golden opportunity for some döstädning, send the shirt now & get ahead of the curve before postal rates rise. Since R230 is all vaxxed up & doomed anyway, by the time it arrives he'll be in fine form.
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Shipping is already more expensive than the shirt today while we still relying mostly on diesel for the cargoships and cerosine for the airbus.
Maybe i give it to Greta next time she takes a sailboat voyage over the atlantic. :o ::)
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Well - so much for our vaunted "Natural Immunity". Looks like the viruses win again, they have really been paying attention these last billion years or so...
If you didn't have enough reason to get the MMR jab before, you do now. Wouldn't be a good thing to have your "immunity files" wiped.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia
BBC: The race to understand 'immune amnesia'
Enter "immune amnesia", a mysterious phenomenon that's been with us for millennia, though it was only discovered in 2012. Essentially, when you're infected with measles, your immune system abruptly forgets every pathogen it's ever encountered before – every cold, every bout of flu, every exposure to bacteria or viruses in the environment, every vaccination. The loss is near-total and permanent. Once the measles infection is over, current evidence suggests that your body has to re-learn what's good and what's bad almost from scratch. "In a way, infection of the measles virus basically sets the immune system to default mode," says Mansour Haeryfar, a professor of immunology at Western University, Canada, "as if it has never encountered any microbes in the past".
Measles is an ancient respiratory virus, transmitted via aerosols and droplets, that's thought to have first made the leap from cattle to humans around 2,500 years ago – possibly taking advantage of the crammed cities that were springing up across the globe.
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Sounds like a golden opportunity for some döstädning, send the shirt now & get ahead of the curve before postal rates rise. Since R230 is all vaxxed up & doomed anyway, by the time it arrives he'll be in fine form.
That motorcycle Zombie is not wearing a helmet. Very unsafe. If he crashes chasing after an anti-vaxxer to eat their brains, he might become confused, forget brains and start eating broccoli. ;)
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He? :o Hmmm...that zombie has knee high boots, short skirt & a low-cut top as well...zombina? femizombie?
Good zombie training film:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_and_Prejudice_and_Zombies_(film)
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How about some zombie music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzpPy9hJYA8
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Unvaccinated zombies are already gathering:
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/QAnon-believers-Dallas-texas-JFK-jr-16585365.php (https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/QAnon-believers-Dallas-texas-JFK-jr-16585365.php)
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JFK jr. was giving a speach in Berlin this summer. What has struck me was the claims that 5G is somehow bad or evil invention which i couldn't really associate with. Although any practical value for the average person is probably close to zero. Maybe 4K video streams require that speeds?
Well maybe a little panic ala Microsoft could speed up that sales, something like all phones that don't support 5G are unsafe. Or even better just outlaw anything bellow 5G.
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How about some zombie music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzpPy9hJYA8
Now those are some Zombies that I could embrace. ;D
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One of the better songs about being unvaccinated ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MuhFxaT7zo
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Zombies continue to rock out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXUn_wy0-c
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Unvaccinated zombies are already gathering:
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/QAnon-believers-Dallas-texas-JFK-jr-16585365.php (https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/QAnon-believers-Dallas-texas-JFK-jr-16585365.php)
I don't see the vax connection but yeah QAnon is a strange bunch. The QAnon Shaman just got 41 months jail time for his part in the Jan. 6th insurrection, sadly no longer a hanging offense.
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I don't see the vax connection
I thought the explanation was self explanatory.
Both groups consist entirely of super intelligent, erudite, enlightened, highly aware people whose superior knowledge, acuity, highly refined insight and superior levels of education mean they are able to understand the true nature of things in a way that the rest of the poor ignorant masses are incapable of seeing. Whilst everyone else has been sucked in by propaganda from the military-industrial-complex/aliens/great-white-brotherhood/hippies/free-masons/big-pharma/greenies/lizard-people/the-Queen/commos/men-in-black/rosicrucians/democrats/scientists/people-with-funny-hats these enlightened few know the real truth.
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Unvaccinated zombies are already gathering:
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/QAnon-believers-Dallas-texas-JFK-jr-16585365.php (https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/QAnon-believers-Dallas-texas-JFK-jr-16585365.php)
Well the hunt on the covid unvaccinated definitely resembles the situation the Jews found themselves in 1939. So maybe indeed zombies, to be soon transported to Ausschwitz apparently.
Can't wait to hear the foamy objections. ::)
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I thought the explanation was self explanatory.
Both groups consist entirely of super intelligent, erudite, enlightened, highly aware people whose superior knowledge, acuity, highly refined insight and superior levels of education mean they are able to understand the true nature of things in a way that the rest of the poor ignorant masses are incapable of seeing. Whilst everyone else has been sucked in by propaganda from the military-industrial-complex/aliens/great-white-brotherhood/hippies/free-masons/big-pharma/greenies/lizard-people/the-Queen/commos/men-in-black/rosicrucians/democrats/scientists/people-with-funny-hats these enlightened few know the real truth.
LMAO, ;D ;D ;D Thank you for putting it all in perspective.
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Well the hunt on the covid unvaccinated definitely resembles the situation the Jews found themselves in 1939. So maybe indeed zombies, to be soon transported to Ausschwitz apparently.
Can't wait to hear the foamy objections. ::)
NY Times headline this morning, Austria is going mandatory for the vaccine, they may start burning books and holding torch light rallies too but that remains to be seen.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/19/world/europe/covid-austria-lockdown.html
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I thought the explanation was self explanatory.
Both groups consist entirely of super intelligent, erudite, enlightened, highly aware people whose superior knowledge, acuity, highly refined insight and superior levels of education mean they are able to understand the true nature of things in a way that the rest of the poor ignorant masses are incapable of seeing. Whilst everyone else has been sucked in by propaganda from the military-industrial-complex/aliens/great-white-brotherhood/hippies/free-masons/big-pharma/greenies/lizard-people/the-Queen/commos/men-in-black/rosicrucians/democrats/scientists/people-with-funny-hats these enlightened few know the real truth.
That about covers it. ;)
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NY Times headline this morning, Austria is going mandatory for the vaccine, they may start burning books and holding torch light rallies too but that remains to be seen.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/19/world/europe/covid-austria-lockdown.html
Speaking of burning books: There was a news item making the rounds last week about a Pennsylvania school district whose school board members wanted their staff to go through the district schools' libraries and remove any "objectionable" books that didn't meet the community's standards of decency, (whatever those are). Two of the board members (apparently seriously) suggested that the books should be burned to make sure that no one could read them. (There was no mention of what to do if the books were found on someone's Kindle. ::) ) I wonder if one of the objectionable books would be Fahrenheit 451? ;)
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Meanwhile, elsewhere in Scandanavia...
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@ # 587: Check out the infection rate chart. It'd be unusual if the "West" fortuitously went down a violent protest rabbit hole and opportunistic players didn't use that window to further their own causes. Australia is arming up, Xi can't wait too long.
Rotterdam police clash with rioters as Covid protest turns violent
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59355950
Biden-Xi meeting yielded no major breakthroughs. But Beijing has already claimed victory ; 7:00 AM ET, Wed November 17, 2021
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/china/xi-biden-summit-beijing-victory-mic-intl-hnk/index.html
Turkey and Russia Show That Land Grabs Can Pay Off
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/10/16/turkey-and-russia-show-that-land-grabs-can-pay-off-a67753
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I don't know what to make of this protest in New Zealand. ??? They are riding motorcycles and waving Trump flags! :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR2PWUeLu34
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I don't know what to make of this protest in New Zealand. ??? They are riding motorcycles and waving Trump flags! :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR2PWUeLu34
I see it positive, unlike the constant protesters in Sweden they seem to atleast know what they protesting against.
Maybe Gretas followers are just protesting because they didn't get enough respect for their overwhelming achievements.
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@ # 629: Lots of people apparently need to feel that their genetics make them inherently superior to others. It's pretty low energy compared to actual effort. The excitement of being in a group with an agenda has a lot of appeal to many, the perception of "oppression" is a powerful uniter. This is driven by the internet echo chamber, which is demonstrably & verifiably guided and influenced by agencies with goals counter to that of the "free" nations.
I've always wondered how you could in any rational way compare Trump strategically to Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin and think you've got a winner. In a 3-way poker game, you just know who'd walk away skint. It takes a real suspension of disbelief to think a feckless, self-serving, ignorant millionaire playboy could go toe-to-toe with a fellow who has survived PRC committee infighting without dying or an ex-KGB operative able to manipulate his way to the pinnacle of Party power and not suffer a fatal "car accident" or "heart attack" along the way. At best Trump's a "полезный идиот", as Vladimir so succinctly put it. I'll never forget the closed door meetings with Putin or our "Dear Leader" inviting the Russian foreign ministers into the Oval Office for some casual gut-spilling chat. Seriously - this is their guy?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html
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I don't know what to make of this protest in New Zealand. ??? They are riding motorcycles and waving Trump flags! :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR2PWUeLu34
We don’t to know either. Self nominated ‘Bishop’ Brian Tamaki (he’s not the messiah, he’s just a naughty boy) who styles himself on Trump/Bolsonaro is leading the charge against public health measures, and putting low vaccinated Māori and Pacifica communities at risk, but hey, any publicity is good publicity right?
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Arrrg, what you not saying? Some more fake news to be covered up.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/cdc-no-record-of-naturally-immune-transmitting-covid-19_4102046.html?utm_source=News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-11-13-3&mktids=0450b10669127285e84719d0ef46f788&est=ta7qz4mRk33YUmkeMkh%2FGYwejdoPFGet%2BqElG1ZbD2uoIO%2Bj2efnfsjYQUvqhKxApLvZeQ%3D%3D
How about poking everyone's eye out, out of solidarity with the one eyed?
I'm starting to be in support of withdrawing the driving licences for all retireries, that much solidarity with the future generations whose future they ATE up feels like the minimum. Certainly a desirable measure in countries like Sweden where they keep voting worse and worse terrorists in power because they are scared of refugees whipping their arses. However balls to fuck up their own children they didn't have. They would be whipping even more efficiently, as you can see on Greta.
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THIS is your quote source? So basically you'll just say anything to provoke a response? The only core belief I've seen consistently demonstrated is the swift knee-jerk response when a suggestion is made to you that might require you to part with a single Euro.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times
The Epoch Times opposes the Chinese Communist Party,[20][21] promotes far-right politicians in Europe,[3][5] and has championed President Donald Trump in the U.S.;[22] a 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign.[18][23][24] The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccine misinformation.[18][25][26] In 2020, The New York Times called it a "global-scale misinformation machine".[22] The Epoch Times frequently promotes other Falun Gong affiliated groups, such as the performing arts company Shen Yun.[14][27][22]
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/ce/ceno/eng/ztxw/outlawing%20flg/t143975.htm#:~:text=Falun%20Gong%20is%20also%20a,total%20of%202.1%20million%20practitioners.
Li and other core members of the organization became rich through exploiting the wealth and labour of Falun Gong practitioners and by dodging taxes. Li is reported to have fat bank accounts overseas.
Falun Gong is also a tightly organized cult. Its supreme organ in China is the Falun Dafa Research Society (FDRS) in Beijing. Under the FDRS, there are 39 general stations, 1,900 instruction centres, and 28,263 exercising sites, controlling a total of 2.1 million practitioners.
Li tricked the practitioners of Falun Gong into joining his "kingdom," and gradually separated them from the society, eventually convincing them to fight against it.
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@ # 631: Maybe Xi Jinping & Putin won't have to wait for Xmas.
BBC Covid: Huge protests across Europe over new restrictions
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59363256
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@ # 631: Maybe Xi Jinping & Putin won't have to wait for Xmas.
BBC Covid: Huge protests across Europe over new restrictions
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59363256
What exactly would Putin or Xi Jinping gain? Hospitals full of covid patients?
As i said you can't buy even piss - AdBlue anywhere. Most people would by now probably celebrate Putin if he freed Europe from the covid scam.
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What exactly would Putin or Xi Jinping gain? Hospitals full of covid patients?
As i said you can't buy even piss - AdBlue anywhere. Most people would by now probably celebrate Putin if he freed Europe from the covid scam.
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@ # 631: Maybe Xi Jinping & Putin won't have to wait for Xmas.
BBC Covid: Huge protests across Europe over new restrictions
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59363256
My newspaper today also covered that story in an article written by Emily Schultheis and Kirsten Grieshaber, published by the AP. What I noticed was that the report included a statement that some of the protesters in Austria were wearing tinfoil hats. Obviously they are fully protected against both the virus and Jewish space lasers. ::)
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Jewish space lasers. ::)
They are real - here is evidence:
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This thread really covers the full gamut - vlad the imposter, zombies, greta, jewish space lasers, trolls, anti-vaxxers... & Sweden ;D
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@ #637: Awesome! "Putin on the Ritz" - too clever by half... ;D
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This thread really covers the full gamut - vlad the imposter, zombies, greta, jewish space lasers, trolls, anti-vaxxers... & Sweden ;D
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;D
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Who's a good boy? Sit...sit...whatta good boy! That's Vladdy's полезный идиот!
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Most people would by now probably celebrate Putin if he freed Europe from the covid scam.
Maybe - but in Australia we are hitting close to 100% vaccination in some areas and this speech below is how the vast majority of Aussies feel about the selfish un-Australian (Aussies traditionally are famous for putting themselves in harms way to help others) anti-social behaviour of the very few:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSldjsHs1WY
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Maybe - but in Australia we are hitting close to 100% vaccination in some areas and this speech below is how the vast majority of Aussies feel about the selfish un-Australian (Aussies traditionally are famous for putting themselves in harms way to help others) anti-social behaviour of the very few:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSldjsHs1WY
Brilliant
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Who's a good boy? Sit...sit...whatta good boy! That's Vladdy's полезный идиот!
With all criticism on Donald Trump, he was never as entertaining as Boris though.
https://youtu.be/ZsZFtYfk0TM
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Trump entertaining? Horrifying, maybe. 2016-2020 was like watching a live-fire incipient rerun of Monday 27 February 1933. The 30% of us rooting for Trump are the best Christmas gift Xi & Vladimir could ever get. This whole dystopian scene we're in is like watching a slow motion train wreck. It really stops being entertaining when the shooting starts. You are close to the Ukraine, what's your plan? Fiddling? "War is good business, invest your son." Allen Ginsberg
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Disclose your plan politicos make you fail on purpose to feel better about themselves. Than there are things which are in my powers and capabilities to change, and things that are beyond. Although they are worrisome its of no use to waste too much time and energy on them.
In my sparetime i build fences seems like a booming bussiness, the Pepa Pig world is probably comming either way. I would argue it's already existing in Sweden.
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" Disclose your plan politicos make you fail on purpose to feel better about themselves."
Again, the power lies with the folks funding the "Politicos" that write the rules. Trump was said to have backed off the "Let the GOP crash" train because he stood to lose a paltry few millions. What's a few millions to the Sackler's or other similar folks? Chump change, that's what. Look at the control they buy for that pittance. The "for sale" political system has brought us to the point of being de-industrialized with no hope of re-tooling in time to make a difference. Getting the money out at this point will take a lot of spilled blood to secure peoples interest.
It's unclear what you are referencing/inferring when you say "the Pepa Pig world is probably comming either way". I've never watched Peppa Pig, no reason to. It's tough to understand when you don't clarify your intent. If you are really interested in a dialog, please be clearer, otherwise we have to assume this is just a source of entertainment for you. I know you are a sharp guy, please step up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppa_Pig
Taking place in a world where all characters are animals, Peppa Pig revolves around the titular character and her family and friends. Each episode is approximately five minutes long. Each of her friends is a different species of animal. Peppa's friends are her age, and Peppa's younger brother George's friends are his age. Episodes tend to feature everyday activities such as attending playgroup, going swimming, visits with their grandparents, cousins, and friends, going to the playground or riding their bikes.
The characters wear clothes, live in houses, and drive cars, but still display some characteristics of the animals on which they are based. Peppa and her family snort like pigs during conversations in which they are speaking English, and the other animals make their respective noises when they talk, with some exhibiting other characteristics, such as the Rabbit family's squeaking sounds and enjoyment of carrots. The Rabbit and Mole families are the exceptions to the rule of human-like habitation, as they live in a burrow in a hill, though it has windows and is furnished in the same way as the other houses. The characters blush when embarrassed, and their mouths express other emotions such as sadness, happiness, irritation, bewilderment, and confusion. Although the main characters—mostly mammals—are anthropomorphic, other animal characters are not, such as Tiddles the tortoise, Polly Parrot, and the ducks. The narrator of the series, John Sparkes, reinforces the action and humour, saying things like "Oh, dear" when something unfortunate happens (such as George starts crying) or "Look out!" when a character is doing something unsafe (such as Peppa riding her bicycle without looking where she's going).
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Meanwhile back in California land: During the past week we have been having a rash of flash mob thefts of high-end stores like Nordstrom, malls, jewelry stores, pharmacies and marijuana dispensaries in several Bay Area cities, including San Francisco, Oakland, Walnut Creek, Hayward and San Jose. These mobs of between 80 and 100 people dressed in black hoodies, will drive up in a caravan of cars, jump out and rush into the stores with hammers and crowbars and steal everything they can within just a minute or two and then drive off before the cops can arrive. If any of the store's staff gets in their way they spray them with pepper spray. The mob stole as much as $70 worth of merchandise from one store in the downtown shopping area of San Francisco last Friday. Last night LA was hit with a similar operation, but at least a few of the robbers were chased down by the LA cops, who unlike Bay Area cops don't mind high speed chases, and arrested. Right now the cops have no idea how to stop these flash mob thefts. >:(
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That sounds like street gangs to me, where else are you going to be able to muster that many people for what amounts to smash and grab on a large scale. The few that get caught won't rat out fellow members from either loyalty or fear. I can see something like this catching on in more large urban areas as well. Will the take really be worth it or is it just gangs grandstanding?
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Drones? Helicopters with FLIR? GPS chips in the goodies? Dye-packs? On-line "brand merchandise" sales surveillance? Folks seldom outrun a helicopter they don't know about. Find the fence & lean on them. But you have to want to do it. These mobs aren't hitting Walmart or Home Depo, this is a problem of the monied class. Besides, like KC says, there has to be a central fencing operation, otherwise you have hundreds of dumbasses all trying to sell stuff on E-Bay, Amazon, or local street corners. How long could it possibly take before one of these "master criminals" slips up and sells to an under cover cop?
This time honored way was effective also:
The LA riots were a rude awakening for Korean-Americans
https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/us/la-riots-korean-americans/index.html
" Chang Lee gripped his fingers tighter around the gun and screamed at potential looters from the rooftop of the small strip mall where he stood. The 35-year-old had never held a firearm before the LA riots. Lighting up the blocks around him, Lee could smell the fires burning in Los Angeles’ Koreatown. "
This exposes the US culture of the "Contact Magic" amoral adoration & mimicry of the affluent. People that can't actually afford the upscale gimcracks at retail prices apparently have no moral issues with buying from a questionable source. And it's likely the actual recipients are upscale folks, looking to get a bargain on that $2800 Gucci handbag. Who else would be comfortable plonking down a few hundred for a fashion accessory that listed for thousands? Where would they show it off? CostCo? Chilli's?
It's roughly analogous to the Somali Pirate problem: How would a guy raised in a mud hut have the connections & wherewithal to fence a shipload of goods or oil? The Seychelles are very close to Somalia, home to very affluent & connected individuals. What's the chances that the Pirates are mostly low-paid muscle for the real criminals living in multi-million dollar mansions?
When the insurance money stops, then we'll begin to see who the real criminals are. Follow the money.
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On the subject of hot pursuit, recently a local repeat offender with an outstanding warrant in my area was spotted in traffic by local law enforcement and pursued through a congested area at high speeds, finally the wanted felon rolled his vehicle at an intersection, a 17 year old passenger with no outstanding warrants or criminal record was ejected from the vehicle and killed. I know it is a case of be careful who your friends are and who you ride with but at 17 judgment on such things is clouded at best. Local law enforcement is now reviewing their policies on hot pursuit as many communities have with this issue.
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Sweden is back in the news. Last night on the BBC World News there was a headline that said: "Sweden's first female P.M. resigns hours after her appointment." Apparently something to do with the current government's collapse. Lots of drama going on in Europe lately. ::)
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Sweden is back in the news. Last night on the BBC World News there was a headline that said: "Sweden's first female P.M. resigns hours after her appointment." Apparently something to do with the current government's collapse. Lots of drama going on in Europe lately. ::)
The Swedish government is in a stage of permanent collaps since maybe around 2015. The result is that the citizens vote mainly for the socialists to make the collaps as socially acceptable as possible. That however makes things even worse, because eventhough the government spends money relatively sensibly there is no check in balances. If you order a car as a private entity you are likely to make sure you get a car and not a donkey. The Swedish government would need to spend atleast something like a million dollars if it wanted a car.
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Well - here's the why:
Sweden's first female PM resigns hours after appointment
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59400539
Magdalena Andersson, was announced as leader on Wednesday but resigned after her coalition partner quit the government and her budget failed to pass. Instead, parliament voted for a budget drawn up by the opposition which includes the anti-immigrant far right.
"I have told the speaker that I wish to resign," Ms Andersson told reporters.
Her coalition partner, the Green Party said it could not accept a budget "drafted for the first time with the far-right".
Ms Andersson said that she hoped to try to become prime minister again as a single party government leader.
"There is a constitutional practice that a coalition government should resign when one party quits," the Social Democrat said on Wednesday. "I don't want to lead a government whose legitimacy will be questioned.
Analysis by Maddy Stockholm:
Becoming the first woman prime minister in Swedish history should have been cause for a night of celebration for Magdalena Andersson, yet the sun had barely set when she handed in her notice.
The complexities of Swedish politics mean we can't assume we've seen the last of her, though. If there's another prime ministerial vote, Ms Andersson will probably get voted in again. This is because the Green Party has promised to support her, despite quitting as a formal coalition partner. But she'd end up in a vulnerable position at the helm of a fragile minority government, and would still have to stick to the right-wing budget already voted on by parliament.
What all this political chaos has underlined is just how divided Swedish politics is right now. We'll have to wait and see whether voters break the deadlock with a significant shift to the right or the left at next year's elections.
https://www.historyhit.com/the-4-m-a-i-n-causes-of-world-war-one/
The M-A-I-N acronym – militarism, alliances, imperialism and nationalism – is often used to analyse the war, and each of these reasons are cited to be the 4 main causes of World War One. It’s simplistic but provides a useful framework.
We're 75% of the way towards a full house. Maybe 100% if you consider Russia's designs on the Ukraine & China on the South Pacific as imperialism. I hope Der Ottonen has a larder full of drinking water, rice & beans, or at least a "bug-out bag" strapped to his GT. Looks like he'll need it. Might be a good time to tour the Andes or visit Carnival in Rio. It starts at the end of February, I'd go now and avoid the rush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_RMS_Lusitania
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I hope Der Ottonen has a larder full of drinking water, rice & beans, or at least a "bug-out bag" strapped to his GT. Looks like he'll need it. Might be a good time to tour the Andes or visit Carnival in Rio. It starts at the end of February, I'd go now and avoid the rush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_RMS_Lusitania
What bullshit, that swedish ship is not RMS Lusitania but Gustav Vasa.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)
Swedish autists can blame only themselves, they don't deal with anybody anyway. Glad to be out of that Gulag. Metaphorically speaking it's better to blow up your own house than gift it to the yelling Marlena which wouldn't be enough anyway.
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Autists? Check to see you don't fit into that group!
https://www.clinical-partners.co.uk/for-adults/autism-and-aspergers/adult-autism-test
The idea was to get across the pond before the shooting starts, not obsess over a Swedish warship that capsized in 1626.The Lusitania was sunk as and act of war, so best not to wait. Carnival is pretty entertaining by all accounts, Brazil is out of the line of fire, and a continent is hard to sink.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)
Richly decorated as a symbol of the king's ambitions for Sweden and himself, upon completion she was one of the most powerfully armed vessels in the world. However, Vasa was dangerously unstable, with too much weight in the upper structure of the hull. Despite this lack of stability, she was ordered to sea and foundered only a few minutes after encountering a wind stronger than a breeze.
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...well, well. The statistics, the statistics.
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La prochaine fois, poster en anglais, par courtoisie pour les autres.
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La prochaine fois, poster en anglais, par courtoisie pour les autres.
Förlåt. In plain english a degree in Authism is a valuable thing in Sweden, :D
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Operators are standing by... ;D
Feb 26 – Mar 1, 2022
São Paulo, State of São Paulo, Brazil
Carnival in Sao Paulo: Experience the Brazilian Carnival Magic Sao Paolo is one of the most vibrant carnival events in the world. Drawing in millions of spectators and supporters from all over the world.
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Operators are standing by... ;D
Feb 26 – Mar 1, 2022
São Paulo, State of São Paulo, Brazil
Carnival in Sao Paulo: Experience the Brazilian Carnival Magic Sao Paolo is one of the most vibrant carnival events in the world. Drawing in millions of spectators and supporters from all over the world.
Looks like fun. Let the spread begin. :o
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A vote:
1) Be in Germany, very possibly in the middle of a C19 lockdown driven civil war in February, maybe only 300 km. from the shooting war in the Ukraine,
2) Be in Brazil at Carnival, a looong bloody way from either European or South Pacific hostilities.
If nothing happens war-wise, Carnival for a single guy with some Euro's in his hand would still be better than Germany in February... ;D
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/rio-carnival
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Still time to book a flight...maybe before "Omicron" locks up travel again.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8406375/ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-coup/
Ukraine president says Russia, oligarch planning coup for next week
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February is Winter in Germany.
February is Summer in Brazil.
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Operators are standing by... ;D
Feb 26 – Mar 1, 2022
São Paulo, State of São Paulo, Brazil
Carnival in Sao Paulo: Experience the Brazilian Carnival Magic Sao Paolo is one of the most vibrant carnival events in the world. Drawing in millions of spectators and supporters from all over the world.
Indeed convincing arguments, worth a consideration. No c19 lockdowns in Brazil, are you sure?
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Since they are scheduling Carnival for 2022 and Jair Bolsonaro is still President, what do you think? C19 is all a hoax anyway, so what's the hold up? Your "no jab" status will work the same there as Germany. If Putin does move on Ukraine, you'll be better off in Brazil. If nothing happens, you're still in Brazil for Carnival, not in Germany in midwinter.
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Since they are scheduling Carnival for 2022 and Jair Bolsonaro is still President, what do you think? C19 is all a hoax anyway, so what's the hold up? Your "no jab" status will work the same there as Germany. If Putin does move on Ukraine, you'll be better off in Brazil. If nothing happens, you're still in Brazil for Carnival, not in Germany in midwinter.
Hmm, someone will have to take care of the chicks here too once most "man" with the big balls are finally vaxxed and out of the way. ;) ;D
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Sounds like you'll have a great time! Send pix of your costume. Here's a motorcycle rental link:
https://motorentals.com.br/site/en/
https://aekmotos.com.br/cat%C3%A1logo-de-motos
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Sounds like you'll have a great time! Send pix of your costume. Here's a motorcycle rental link:
https://motorentals.com.br/site/en/
https://aekmotos.com.br/cat%C3%A1logo-de-motos
There is no shortage of fashionable costumes in european history. From the Napoleon hat to the pickle helmet, maybe in combination with the scottish man skirt? ;D
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Still time to book a flight...maybe before "Omicron" locks up travel again.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8406375/ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-coup/
Ukraine president says Russia, oligarch planning coup for next week
Speaking of Omicron news: I heard this morning that when the Governor of New York heard about the new virus mutation he immediately declared a state of emergency, which if NY is anything like California, will allow him to govern by decree. As always never let a crisis (perceived or actual) go to waste. And that goes for both politicians and the news media. Plus of course, as always, that also applies to dictators and wannabe dictators. ::)
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" Plus of course, as always, that also applies to dictators and wannabe dictators. "
Looks like Western Europe is well on the way to providing cover for Putin's next land grab move. Even the distant Solomon Islands want in on this popular pastime. "Fight Club" writ large. Another two ocean war, I guess that'll satisfy the lockdown boredom bug. The survivors get to become the latest "Greatest Generation". Hang together or hang separately as Franklin said. Nobody in the West is trying to become a dictator by "locking down" folks in a pandemic to reduce medical casualties, those guys are already poised to strike after we obligingly self destruct.
The Russians and Chinese have both notched back on export fuel and "DEF" production to the West. The DEF shortage interferes with the Western supply chain, causing disruption & discontent. Russian forces are poised at the Ukrainian border, The Chinese have a very serviceable benthic navy & air cap pointed at Taiwan & further south. Check out their AG600 & LCAC. One war machine guarantees island resupply despite air field denial, the other just needs something "flattish" to skim over at 30-60 KM/hr., carrying lots of troops, missiles & machine guns just like the LCAC's the USA used in Viet Nam & seen today at Camp Pendleton. Australia has declared that a "La Nina" event is coming, bringing coastal flooding. Swollen rivers are highways for LCAC's & landing strips for AG600's. Floods blow up the road infrastructure, making ground troop movement tougher for defenders. Two big players here are working a plan, whilst many of us in the West are just having a good time voluntarily participating in "Fight Club". If either the Chinese or Russians start making your living rules, covid lockdown will seem a pleasant memory. Xi Jinping & Putin are depending on your help. Step away from Facebook and deny it to them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/59390968
BBC: Conspiracy and untruths drive Europe's Covid protests
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59412000
BBC: Solomon Islands: Australia sends peacekeeping troops amid riots
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/china-military-amphibious/
https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2021/6/25/china-building-formidable-amphibious-fleet
https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/the-future-of-chinas-amphibious-assault-fleet/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVIC_AG600
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_726_LCAC
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Speaking of Omicron news: I heard this morning that when the Governor of New York heard about the new virus mutation he immediately declared a state of emergency, which if NY is anything like California, will allow him to govern by decree. As always never let a crisis (perceived or actual) go to waste. And that goes for both politicians and the news media. Plus of course, as always, that also applies to dictators and wannabe dictators. ::)
Anyone still wonders why in some supposedly democratic corporations it's impossible to decide weather to use a M6 or a M8 bolt or maybe a custom M7.346. However whos fault it is should there be an issue is usually figured out in no time, that would be the person that took the decision.
Now if the politicos would entertain that kind of a decision process, most countries would be in a good shape.
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" However whos fault it is should there be an issue is usually figured out in no time, that would be the person that took the decision. Now if the politicos would entertain that kind of a decision process, most countries would be in a good shape. "
In a topical example of what you are referring to, here's your favorite country at work! Can't say they are wrong though. Management's search for profit has spilled a lot of blood over on these shores with usually no repercussions. Look at BP in our Gulf, blowing up a platform & killing the crew, treating the Gulf of Mexico as Bangladesh, then a resounding "wrist slap" for punishment from our "for sale" justice system.
A Mine Disaster in Russia Highlights Safety Shortfalls in Rush to Dig Coal
At least 46 miners were killed in an explosion at a Siberian mine. The director of the mine has been taken into police custody, along with five other administrators.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/26/world/europe/mine-disaster-russia-safety.html
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It does sound like the World is going to Hell in a hand basket. >:(
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Tragically, mining disasters are nothing new. It would be nice if the lessons WERE actually learnt.
http://www.clwydfhs.org.uk/miscellanea/gresford-disaster.htm
A.
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Omicron seems to preferably infect the vaxxed, time to get a booster jab. ;D
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Actually Omicron prefers anti-vaxxers that fail to cite any sources and are primarily interested in trolling. And that's a "No Shit" story if there ever was one. Technically C19-Omicron is attracted to the neo-rheomagnetic residual field left on an unvaccinated motorcycle rider, especially if he/she rides a large displacement Indian pushrod single. The passage of a large piston near two valves stimulates a hypergravistatic attractor field, oscillating the nasopharynx & driving the virus into the riders neocortex, altering the mitochondrial alleles where the victim thinks up their next random undocumented passage, oddly enough causing the infected to write suggestions that increase the overall infection rate. This has parallels in the insect world, such as the Ophiocordyceps unilateralis fungus, which affects the actual behaviour of the ant in a contra-survival way. The only cure for this is a liter bottle of Ivermectin taken as a suppository with a Clorox chaser.
" Omicron’s full impact will be felt in countries where fewer are vaccinated " -The Guardian-
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/27/omicrons-full-impact-will-be-felt-in-countries-where-fewer-are-vaccinated
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The "guardian" of Mr. Gates's bank account is indeed a reliable source. Might be time to go for the twin cylinder pushrod bike, with some good road holding set of forks.
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The "guardian" of Mr. Gates's bank account is indeed a reliable source. Might be time to go for the twin cylinder pushrod bike, with some good road holding set of forks.
;D
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Your Dream Bike! :o
The "guardian" of Mr. Gates's bank account is indeed a reliable source.
The Guardian with actual verifiable sources too reality based for you? Maybe Alex Jones needs to shout it during his talk radio broadcast, that makes it "true", right?
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Here we are - a built-in 5th Column anti-vax effort, mostly amongst the Reservists. Given that there has been and still is verifiable manipulation of social media by hostile foreign states, what's the obvious conclusion to be drawn? Why degrade another nations military in advance? With near 30% of the National Guard harboring Anti-Vax sentiment, what happens in a large scale civil conflict? Social media disinformation has whipped people into rioting worldwide. Fun is fun, but at some point survival will require application & utilization of rational thought processes again. Objective data is repeatable & verifiable, not opinion, slogans or inference.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59409447
BBC: Can US troops be punished for refusing the jabs?
According to data from the beginning of November, of the 1.3 million active-duty US personnel, 97% had received at least one vaccine dose. The data shows that 88% of active-duty troops are fully vaccinated. With reservist and national guard personnel included, however, the proportion of fully vaccinated troops falls to 69%.
What is the impact of vaccines on military readiness?
Experts say that ensuring compliance with vaccination mandates is crucial for the US military to be able to conducts its missions around the world.
"The military goes to great efforts to ensure that soldiers are deployable, from dental examinations to physical fitness and financial circumstances," Mr Hansen said.
"A soldier who is not vaccinated and put into close quarters with other soldiers has a potentially really detrimental effect on military readiness. It's a no brainer."
As an example, Mr Hansen pointed to the USS Theodore Roosevelt, a US Navy aircraft carrier on which more than 1,000 sailors contracted Covid-19 early in the pandemic. One sailor died of the virus.
"That's why the vaccination efforts are full steam ahead. That's the heart of military readiness."
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If the army had a spine they would have flipped sides long time ago. I doubt thou the average soldier nether in the states nor anywhere in europe has a clue what discipline is all about. Let them work a year or so at a good old austrian petrol station a year or so for minimum wage and you will see that the avarage sales woman is going to make them cry and piss their pants.
Besides of that i've never heard of the army producing anything much of value other than lowering if victorious the opponent below your own level.
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Then I hope you'll like working on your Ural & Ogar/CZ approved State motorcycles, comrade. Maybe you'll get to be the local Zampolit. Likely not as that requires social skills so as not to end up in Siberia. Perhaps a job in the Commissars motor pool polishing his Zil?
One thing a functioning Army does is keep opportunists on their side of the fence. The last time there was a large excursion in Europe, it didn't work out well for anyone.
"Besides of that i've never heard of the army producing anything much of value other than lowering if victorious the opponent below your own level."
Isn't that rather the whole point of warfare, to make the opposition less effective? Rather like using Sun Tzu tactics over the Internet to get them to voluntarily self destruct? It's all fun 'n games 'till someone gets hurt. When the tanks start rolling the fun stops.
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I'm not too worried because who will cloth and feed the honorable army? Who will build vehicles and gear for them? Apparently the €€€/$$$ printing press. Maybe the Honda Navi becomes their primary scooter, seems to be of good utilitarian value.
I rather keep entertaining the enjoyable activity of polishing the Zil and maybe get a CZ to do some improvements to in the spare time.
Can't wait to see the tanks rolling, that will be sure an interesting show.
https://theworld.org/stories/hardcore-russian-biker-gang-about-invade-poland
Putin already tried to send a friendly moto gang for a diplomatic visit to Berlin, didn't work out that well, maybe the tanks work better.
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" I'm not too worried because who will cloth and feed the honorable army? "
Well....maybe the folks that sent them? With possibly the help of free voluntold labor from local conscripts/POW's? I very much doubt it'll be like "Hogan's Heroes". I also doubt that clever repartee & witty rejoinders will be a selection priority.
If the home guard manages to keep them at bay, anyone that wasn't 110% behind them will likely be escorted back to Sweden. Proximity will give you a dog in the upcoming hunt, like it or not.
If it doesn't happen at all, bullet dodged, you can keep up the nihilistic maundering unimpeded, maybe. Depends on how serious the home guard is about preventing a repeat performance by "cleansing" the ranks of folks that don't give a rats ass who would have won. Our electronic format universe is readily searchable. Brazil still looks like a great option...você fala português?
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" I'm not too worried because who will cloth and feed the honorable army? "
If the home guard manages to keep them at bay, anyone that wasn't 110% behind them will likely be escorted back to Sweden. Proximity will give you a dog in the upcoming hunt, like it or not.
Sounds like a good idea to escort the swedish passport holders to back to sweden asap. I'm exactly keen to see anything swedish around and to be illuminated in some pseudoscientific global warming theories. The red army is more than welcome.
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Omicron variant news: Producing milder symptoms is consistent with what Ace alluded to earlier, that over time new diseases tend to become more "user friendly" and only cause mild symptoms. The common cold is an example. Syphilis in the 1400's was almost like Leprosy, but over time it became less "hot", not killing it's host, increasing opportunities for the Treponema Pallidum bacillus to reproduce. C19 is a much faster breeding virus with a population of nearly 8 billion humans to mutate in, maybe this has accelerated the process. In any event, by the time a new variant is identified, thanks to air travel it's already everywhere. As anti-vaxxers are happy with a mortality rate of 0.2%, as long as Omicron mortality is 0.2% or less no problemo Magdaleno, we're all good, right?
BBC Video: Omicron symptoms mild so far, says South African doctor who spotted it
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-59450988
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@ #688: Unlikely that repatriation of sympathizers/collaborators will be dignified with a passport. Maybe a rowboat. Still time to become a Red Army "batman", that's probably survivable. (insert subliminal message here Brazil...Brazil...Brazil... )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(military)
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Nope - nothing to worry about from the Chinese, as long as the head of one of the most powerful US corporations kisses their Commie asses, right? Yeah - we're in great shape. Yet another 5th (6th?) column effort - multinational business interests. Double score that the drama played out on the news, amplifying the propaganda effect for the PRC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59409508
JPMorgan boss regrets saying bank will outlast Chinese Communist Party
"Dimon's apology shows the degree of deference foreign businesses have to show to the Chinese government in order to remain in its good graces and maintain access to the country's markets," he said.
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JPMorgan boss regrets saying bank will outlast Chinese Communist Party
Given that the CCP is not really Marxist/Socialist in any traditional sense (it is modelled on Imperial China with a few Marxist trappings and the Imperial Chinese system dates back to the Zhou dynasty starting around 1000 BC) and it is actually just a continuation of a system that is now 3000 years old - the bank has a long way to go ....
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@ #688: Unlikely that repatriation of sympathizers/collaborators will be dignified with a passport. Maybe a rowboat. Still time to become a Red Army "batman", that's probably survivable. (insert subliminal message here Brazil...Brazil...Brazil... )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(military)
Why 🇧🇷 Brazil ??? Why not Argentina ???
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Nope - nothing to worry about from the Chinese, as long as the head of one of the most powerful US corporations kisses their Commie asses, right? Yeah - we're in great shape. Yet another 5th (6th?) column effort - multinational business interests. Double score that the drama played out on the news, amplifying the propaganda effect for the PRC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59409508
JPMorgan boss regrets saying bank will outlast Chinese Communist Party
"Dimon's apology shows the degree of deference foreign businesses have to show to the Chinese government in order to remain in its good graces and maintain access to the country's markets," he said.
A rather interesting thing i remember reading somewhere about the Roman Empire is that it lasted for a thousand years because it didn't have gob. debt. So the romanian emperors kept happily coining their denarius coins for anything they liked and wanted and only ended in hyperinflation once the barbarians decimated their armies. So since those days the self-destructive mechanism called national debt is already implemented barbarians are not really required to do the job, neither viruses.
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@ #693: Because Argentina doesn't have Carnival and we were trying to make it appealing? But if Argentina meets your needs, get with it, it looks great to me, I'm not really a crowd guy. I'm sure lots of interesting things to do there, and your German will come in handy. Things are heating up over here, I'm hoping any excitement holds off until at least January 2022. If nothing happens, you'll still have a great time & see different country. If the worst happens, you are out of the spotlight.
Looks like Brazil is easy for Germans to get into, maybe just a C19 test before flying.
http://berlim.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/entry_regulations_and_terms_of_stay.xml
There is this caveat for Argentina:
https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/migraciones/ddjj-migraciones
Proof of COVID-19 vaccination and negative test required before departure
Measures in force for entry and exit to the national territory
Entry of Argentines, Argentines, residents and non-resident foreigners
Argentines, Argentines, residents who present a complete vaccination scheme 14 days before admission, negative PCR 72 hours. prior to boarding, they will be exempted from isolation. Those who do not present a complete vaccination scheme must quarantine and perform a PCR on the seventh day of admission, which if negative would terminate the isolation.
For their part, non-resident foreigners who enter for tourist reasons must present a complete vaccination scheme, negative PCR 72 hours. prior to shipment and a COVID-19 health insurance, being exempted from quarantine.
Minors without complete vaccination are exempt from isolation and the PCR test should not be performed on the seventh day.
Prior to making the trip, air, river or maritime operators must verify that the established entry requirements and the formulation of the affidavit. A complete vaccination scheme is understood as defined by the health authorities of each vaccination country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina
https://www.roughguides.com/articles/15-things-to-do-in-argentina/
https://www.planetware.com/tourist-attractions/argentina-arg.htm
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@ #694: One of these may be what you read. Looks like Caesar ironed it out around 60 AD, then things fell apart again over time. People really don't like to do what's necessary to survive out of the goodness of their hearts, they seem to need to experience "the hard way" for themselves. On the Management side, the cookie jar is just too tempting. Which is where the USA is, the Business & Government folks aren't minding the store for our country, they are too busy skimming cream for themselves. Very few poor US Senators. The "Chip Crisis" is a good example, amongst many others. If Xi Jinping & Putin continue along their present trajectories, a real learning experience is in the offing. The survivors should definitely be smarter...and less numerous.
https://mises.org/library/inflation-and-fall-roman-empire
https://www.ocpathink.org/post/time-for-oklahoma-to-walk-the-walk-on-obamas-health-overhaul-law (first article)
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And Magdalena got reelected, the agenda is little bit more of the same which would if logic is applied lead to improvement of the already existing issues the country is facing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59459733
Andersson told reporters after the vote that she's ready to "take Sweden forward" with a platform focused on welfare, climate change and crime, according to the BBC
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Add another conflicted government to the upcoming likely list of the "Combat Ineffective". A lot like over here, the Alt-Reicht is in a pissing contest with the Left, just too bad about the business of running the country. Argentina is looking good...send pictures from Ushuaia when you run the Pan-American highway there.
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Austria has been conspicuously absent from US & Euro news. This report from the Hongkong based South China Morning Post is the first report I've seen in 5 days about these riots. Asymmetric warfare is already in progress. China is presenting news which is unpopular/unwanted in Western media but benefits China by creating anxiety & unease between the general population & their government. China & Russia both are verifiably influencing social media to maximize disruption. The MI6 fellow linked to at the bottom of this post has made a rare statement regarding China's tactics. I don't believe it's all that hard to figure out what pragmatically needs to happen in a general public health crisis. This complicity of the Alt-Reicht in helping weaponize & politicize the necessary steps is really divisive, all to the benefit of Xi Jinping & Putin. The aftermath won't be pretty, the "Vichy" folks weren't too popular and didn't fare well in 1945 France.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3157640/coronavirus-thousands-protest-austria-against-covid-vaccine
Tens of thousands of Austrians rallied over the weekend to protest against the government’s introduction of compulsory vaccination – the first EU country to do so – as the chancellor insisted on Sunday that the move would represent “a minor interference” compared to the alternatives.
One of the largest demonstrations was held in the southern city of Graz, where police said late on Saturday that around 25,000 people had gathered in a rally that remained mostly peaceful.
But police said that three men in their early 20s were being investigated for allegedly making Nazi salutes and that there were dozens of infractions against virus-related rules on mask-wearing.
In an interview with the Italian daily, Corriere della Sera, Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said that the government had “sadly” been forced to turn to compulsory vaccination to bolster the current rate of full vaccination – which currently stands at just under 67 per cent and is one of the lowest in western Europe.
Other demonstrations on Saturday took place in the cities of Sankt Poelten and Klagenfurt, attracting around 3,500 and 5,000 people respectively.
Eleven arrests were made in Sankt Poelten, most of them for “aggressive behaviour”. One police officer was injured.
The demonstration was organised by the far-right Freedom Party (FPOe), whose leader Herbert Kickl has been vocal in opposing anti-virus measures and in pushing unproven treatments for the virus.
The protest in Klagenfurt was addressed by the local head of the FPOe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post
Since the change of ownership in 2016, critics including The New York Times, Der Spiegel and The Atlantic have alleged that the paper is on a mission to promote China's soft power abroad.[9][10] According to critics, it is moving away from independent journalism and pioneering a new form of "propaganda".[9][11]
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59474365
BBC: MI6 boss warns of China 'debt traps and data traps'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France
The last of the Vichy exiles were captured in the Sigmaringen enclave in April 1945. Pétain was put on trial for treason by the new Provisional Government, and sentenced to death, but that was commuted to life imprisonment by de Gaulle. Only four senior Vichy officials were tried for crimes against humanity although many others had participated in the deportation of Jews for internment in Nazi concentration camps, abuses of prisoners and severe acts against members of the Resistance.
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Austria has been conspicuously absent from US & Euro news. This report from the Hongkong based South China Morning Post is the first report I've seen in 5 days about these riots. Asymmetric warfare is already in progress. China is presenting news which is unpopular/unwanted in Western media but benefits China by creating anxiety & unease between the general population & their government. China & Russia both are verifiably influencing social media to maximize disruption. The MI6 fellow linked to at the bottom of this post has made a rare statement regarding China's tactics. I don't believe it's all that hard to figure out what pragmatically needs to happen in a general public health crisis. This complicity of the Alt-Reicht in helping weaponize & politicize the necessary steps is really divisive, all to the benefit of Xi Jinping & Putin. The aftermath won't be pretty, the "Vichy" folks weren't too popular and didn't fare well in 1945 France.
And what would that be? ::)
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I see that Magdalena Andersson is back in the Swedish saddle again, after serving for 7 hours as prime minister. Apparently she didn't appreciate being in a two-party coalition that was associated with the right-wing populist Sweden Democrats, who are rooted in a "neo-Nazi" movement, according to an article published by the AP. She is currently in the process of forming a one-party, minority government.
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@ # 700: Where have you been for the last 18 months?
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I see that Magdalena Andersson is back in the Swedish saddle again, after serving for 7 hours as prime minister. Apparently she didn't appreciate being in a two-party coalition that was associated with the right-wing populist Sweden Democrats, who are rooted in a "neo-Nazi" movement, according to an article published by the AP. She is currently in the process of forming a one-party, minority government.
I can't think of anything that wouldn't be far right those days. It starts with ordering a beef steak and ends with giving the waitress a tip. I probably wouldn't give one to Magdalena which deems me a nazi in Sweden for not appreciating the good hard work the über left is doing. So much help and attention the swedish welfare system provides that no one asked for certainly deserves much more appreciation and respect.
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" I can't think of anything that wouldn't be far right those days. "
When we were in Europe, the service people weren't tipped because they reportedly made a living wage already. Since an abhorrence of logical thought & the scientific method seem to permeate the far right, you are quite likely there, i.e., it's difficult for you to observe objective data without squinting thru your Alt-filter. It's admittedly entertaining for you, but may not be a good long-term strategy.
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@ # 700: Where have you been for the last 18 months?
Apparently sleeping, lots of things to catch up. So what needs to be done? Mandatory jabs? Thats already in the making.
Memories if f@#in Sweden come up where drinking a beer is a bad thing however pumping their children with psycho drugs full is somehow ok.
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" I can't think of anything that wouldn't be far right those days. "
When we were in Europe, the service people weren't tipped because they reportedly made a living wage already. Since an abhorrence of logical thought & the scientific method seem to permeate the far right, you are quite likely there, i.e., it's difficult for you to observe objective data without squinting thru your Alt-filter. It's admittedly entertaining for you, but may not be a good long-term strategy.
Which part of Europe would that be? ...are you sure you were not visiting Brazil instead of Europe? ..no heating cost, not much need for electric power, plenty of alcohol from sugar cane, so much that they power their cars with it, some attractive festivals....
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Enjoy Brazil, or Argentina. Sounds like you are investigating Brazil - good choice! Open carry your Taurus or Rossi six-gun, riding thru the jungles & plantations, what's not to like?
https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/money/tipping-in-europe
Extra Restaurant-Tipping Tips
All restaurant prices in France include a 12–15 percent service charge, so locals tip very little, if at all.
Across Mediterranean Europe, a 10 percent service charge is ususally built into your bill. If you wish, you can add an extra €1–2 for each person in your party, or about 5 percent. (If service is not included, or it's a particularly upscale restaurant, tip up to 10 percent.)
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Enjoy Brazil, or Argentina. Sounds like you are investigating Brazil - good choice! Open carry your Taurus or Rossi six-gun, riding thru the jungles & plantations, what's not to like?
https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/money/tipping-in-europe
Extra Restaurant-Tipping Tips
All restaurant prices in France include a 12–15 percent service charge, so locals tip very little, if at all.
Across Mediterranean Europe, a 10 percent service charge is ususally built into your bill. If you wish, you can add an extra €1–2 for each person in your party, or about 5 percent. (If service is not included, or it's a particularly upscale restaurant, tip up to 10 percent.)
Yeah, those poor Brazilians. Screwing together little RE components and placing a made in Brazil logo onto them, wow high tech country after someone walked the way for them. Thank you very much, I'm sure they would put a gun to my head asking monies beeing a rich german. May they inject themselves with the vaccine of love provided by the Vatican Bank free of charge, putting a smile on Bill Gates's face every time he goes to check his bank balance. ;D ;D ;D
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Screwing together little RE components and placing a made in Brazil logo onto them
Trust me, if the Brazilians screwed it on, it would fall off on the showroom floor!
I've had a house there for 6 years (residency visa) and everything that's made there is shoddy crap - houses, cars, electrical goods... I even have to ship A4 plastic pouches to my wife (teacher) because she can only buy flimsy crap.
On the other hand, before Bolsonaro, life was cheap and happy - beer & barbeque. Now it's cheaper to buy salmon than beef ???
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Here are two Brazilian companies that put out a serviceable, affordable product. I've shot them for years, a variety of their weapons, all with decent accuracy and reliable feeding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_(manufacturer)
https://rossiusa.com/company/history#:~:text=Rossi%20manufactures%20its%20classic%20rifles,and%20innovation%20into%20every%20firearm.
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Here are two Brazilian companies that put out a serviceable, affordable product. I've shot them for years, a variety of their weapons, all with decent accuracy and reliable feeding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_(manufacturer)
https://rossiusa.com/company/history#:~:text=Rossi%20manufactures%20its%20classic%20rifles,and%20innovation%20into%20every%20firearm.
Taurus Baretta and 1911 look alikes sell for about half the price of the originals. Sweden has some ties to Brazil since the Queen is Brazilian, so plenty Taurus around, although it's more pain in the ars than joy to own one in that total control state, unless you are a Bazilian in Sweden maybe.
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A guy could have a fine time tootling about in Brazil, strapped to the 9's, or 40's, or 45's, or 10mm if that's your fancy. Alcohol for your tank & some for the belly, maybe a bit of company, all pretty affordable too.
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Yeah, those poor Brazilians. Screwing together little RE components and placing a made in Brazil logo onto them, wow high tech country after someone walked the way for them. Thank you very much, I'm sure they would put a gun to my head asking monies beeing a rich german. May they inject themselves with the vaccine of love provided by the Vatican Bank free of charge, putting a smile on Bill Gates's face every time he goes to check his bank balance. ;D ;D ;D
You will be fine; Germans have a long history of fleeing to South America. Maybe look up some old pals?
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Here are two Brazilian companies that put out a serviceable, affordable product. I've shot them for years, a variety of their weapons, all with decent accuracy and reliable feeding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_(manufacturer)
I've been looking at Taurus guns for a while now & looking for real life comments. I can no longer get off accurate shots with my .38 Special because of hand & wrist pain. In a panic situation, my only accurate shot would be my first IF! I it was cocked already. My second shot, having to pull the trigger, would be useless & the 3rd worse. By then I would be shot dead or beat to death unless my first shot hit him in the forehead.
I'm thinking of a small frame semi-auto (of course) :) I won't spend a thousand dollars on a hand gun & no one is going to give me one for Christmas :)
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I've had good luck with Taurus. They have shot well and I've had no mechanical issues. If you're hot on an autoloader, I'd look at the G3 in a "full size" polymer frame. It comes in 9mm in a variety of capacities & colours. The full size frame IMO is easier on the hands when operating the slide, the compact weapons tend to have stiff slide springs. G3's run around $350 - $400 USD. The smart money is to go to a full service gun range & rent/try the actual weapons you are interested in. A friend at a gun club/range is helpful in finding a weapon to try if the local gun store only carries the "primo" brands.
https://www.taurususa.com/pistols/see-all-pistols?view=category&id=82
The Taurus® G3 delivers an extraordinary new take on the traditional striker fired pistol. It packs more innovation, more features and more punch into a range-friendly, full-size polymer frame.
Personally I'm more of a wheel gun guy. You can pick up a revolver after 5 years and still use it without a refamiliarization course. If you live in a state where you can own one, the polymer "Judge" is a good option. If the weight is doable for you, the actual operation is painless. 45 Long Colt still gets the job done with mild recoil and reasonable accuracy for a snub nose with a big jump to the forcing cone. It also holds FIVE .410 shotshells, guaranteed to absolutely get the attention of anyone on the receiving end. 30 or so #4 shot passing thru your Levi's means you instantly lose interest in what you were doing...
https://www.taurususa.com/revolvers/taurus-judge-series/judge-public-defender-poly-45-colt-410-ga-black-polymer-2-50-in
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I wouldn't want to stay in Sweden without one, well i wouldn't want to stay in Sweden at all. Magdalena is just about to improve the crime rate further.
Funnily the burglaries i've had over time in that country always happened when there was no gun in the house, which makes me wonder what kind of information these people have and weather they have access to the gun register.
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Thinking about it, maybe a "Coach Gun" might work out better. Break open action, no hammers, short, quick pointing. Low base 12 gauge with bird shot is a premium home defense round, remarkably slug-like for the first 20 feet, pattern opens up rapidly after that. "Safe" for the neighborhood, defensible in court. Looking down a pair of 12 gauge barrels brings out the religion in all but the most untrainable.
https://www.stoegerindustries.com/side-by-side-shotguns
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@ # 717: Brazil should be a godsend for you! No kippers, no lutefisk, just lots of new places to explore, all at shirtsleeve temperatures.
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@ # 717: Brazil should be a godsend for you! No kippers, no lutefisk, just lots of new places to explore, all at shirtsleeve temperatures.
Sounds good indeed, it's becoming more and more obvious what the mandatory vaccination is all about here. Basically the plan is to confiscate your income if you don't jab yourself. And even if you do, you will have to do it again every 6 months otherwise you are considered unvaxxed and your income gets confiscated again. Just fantastic...
...anyone still feels like going to work?
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The smart money is to go to a full service gun range & rent/try the actual weapons you are interested in[/u]. A friend at a gun club/range is helpful in finding a weapon to try if the local gun store only carries the "primo" brands.
https://www.taurususa.com/pistols/see-all-pistols?view=category&id=82
The Taurus® G3 delivers an extraordinary new take on the traditional striker fired pistol. It packs more innovation, more features and more punch into a range-friendly, full-size polymer frame.
45 Long Colt still gets the job done with mild recoil and reasonable accuracy for a snub nose with a big jump to the forcing cone. It also holds FIVE .410 shotshells, guaranteed to absolutely get the attention of anyone on the receiving end. 30 or so #4 shot passing thru your Levi's means you instantly lose interest in what you were doing...
https://www.taurususa.com/revolvers/taurus-judge-series/judge-public-defender-poly-45-colt-410-ga-black-polymer-2-50-in
Thanks for your comments. Yes, I would always go & fire anything I was considering first.
I had already seriously considered a .410/.45 combo for my situation with the + being if the guy was not armed it's a pretty intimidating "looking" weapon until I could get the cops here to haul him away without shooting him.
I'd of course try it first because I'd still have a trigger to pull. That's the big problem now with my .38 Special.
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Thinking about it, maybe a "Coach Gun" might work out better. Break open action, no hammers, short, quick pointing. Low base 12 gauge with bird shot is a premium home defense round, remarkably slug-like for the first 20 feet, pattern opens up rapidly after that. "Safe" for the neighborhood, defensible in court. Looking down a pair of 12 gauge barrels brings out the religion in all but the most untrainable.
https://www.stoegerindustries.com/side-by-side-shotguns
No, the shotgun's not a good choice for me.
My "more than likely" nightmare scenario is a sliding glass door smash-in home invasion. They seem popular in my state (and many others).
Any evening I'd probably be sitting in the right corner of my couch which sits 90 degrees to the SGD & about 16' away to my right. My firearm is always on a small table to my right immediately available.
With a shotgun leaning near me, I would have to stand up, turn to my right, pick up the gun & bring it to bear. IF he was armed & serious I'd be shot while I was bringing the gun to bear on him. Of course, to have both would be nice, too :)(http://) a .45 & a 12 ga..
The shotgun would be great IF I heard someone trying to get in on the ground floor. Then god help them if they tried to open the door at the top of the entryway stairs. In that scenario, I'd have the shotgun & SWMBO would have the .38 while he/they were coming up the stairs.
PS: I'm really liking those G3s.
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@ # 717: Brazil should be a godsend for you! No kippers, no lutefisk, just lots of new places to explore, all at shirtsleeve temperatures.
Looks like Brazil offers free roadkill meals. I bet that whatever-it-is will taste great after an hour on the barbie. ;D
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No, the shotgun's not a good choice for me.
My "more than likely" nightmare scenario is a sliding glass door smash-in home invasion. They seem popular in my state (and many others).
Any evening I'd probably be sitting in the right corner of my couch which sits 90 degrees to the SGD & about 16' away to my right. My firearm is always on a small table to my right immediately available.
With a shotgun leaning near me, I would have to stand up, turn to my right, pick up the gun & bring it to bear. IF he was armed & serious I'd be shot while I was bringing the gun to bear on him. Of course, to have both would be nice, too :)(http://) a .45 & a 12 ga..
The shotgun would be great IF I heard someone trying to get in on the ground floor. Then god help them if they tried to open the door at the top of the entryway stairs. In that scenario, I'd have the shotgun & SWMBO would have the .38 while he/they were coming up the stairs.
PS: I'm really liking those G3s.
Funny, but I'd always imagined 'Tooseevee' as residing in some idyllic coastal woodlands remove, a manly compound of sorts, which I seem to recall had a painted white police forensic outline of a body in its driveway. I'd have guessed that alone might have served as sufficient incentive to any roaming snatch-and-grabbers to move on and seek out some other "less challenging" dwelling with Bernie Sanders or Biden-Harris bumper stickers on the vehicles for their depredations. No, I'd have surmised the worst our man 'Tooseevee' had to fear was the odd bold roving racoon getting into the kitchen and helping himself to all the marshmallow bits from the Lucky Charms. Firearms around? Sure...splendid antiquey stuff...like flintlock blunderbusses or maybe an oiled and gleaming 1898 Webley-Vickers. I wouldn't have guessed he'd be strapped up in ultra-vigilant round-the-clock readiness like Jason Bourne prepped for the Visigoths. Won't those tweakers be surprised too...
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Looks like Brazil offers free roadkill meals. I bet that whatever-it-is will taste great after an hour on the barbie. ;D
It's the only fresh meat they can afford right now :(
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@ # 719: I'd be a lot more concerned about your emboldened, aggressive neighbor than keeping my vaccination status current. What if it was mandatory dental checkups? Who knows what those commie dentists are hiding in our teeth? Poisoning us with fluoride, filling cavities with Polonium, I'll not go to the dentist until they pry the gold-crowned rotted molars from my head - that'll show 'em.
Get that Brazil ticket before they stop intercontinental flights & it's too late. Your preferred landing spot, Argentina, requires full-vax status anyway for entry. Sounds like a no-bullshit country! ;D
Russia Ukraine: Lavrov warns of return to military confrontation nightmare
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59503762
As if all that wasn't enough...here's your final straw! ;D ( .....Brazil....Brazil....Brazil....)
Germany to ban unvaccinated people from shops and bars
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-59501192
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@ # 719: I'd be a lot more concerned about your emboldened, aggressive neighbor than keeping my vaccination status current. What if it was mandatory dental checkups? Who knows what those commie dentists are hiding in our teeth? Poisoning us with fluoride, filling cavities with Polonium, I'll not go to the dentist until they pry the gold-crowned rotted molars from my head - that'll show 'em.
Get that Brazil ticket before they stop intercontinental flights & it's too late. Your preferred landing spot, Argentina, requires full-vax status anyway for entry. Sounds like a no-bullshit country! ;D
Russia Ukraine: Lavrov warns of return to military confrontation nightmare
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59503762
As if all that wasn't enough...here's your final straw! ;D ( .....Brazil....Brazil....Brazil....)
Germany to ban unvaccinated people from shops and bars
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-59501192
That's very accurate assessment. I couldn't care less if i can access electro shops and bars, however i can't wait for an retard with a taurus pointed at me telling me to vax or the world comes to an end. That could be some swede who somehow managed to escape with brazilian herritage maybe?
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As if all that wasn't enough...here's your final straw! ;D ( .....Brazil....Brazil....Brazil....)
Germany to ban unvaccinated people from shops and bars
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-59501192
Maybe the final gift from the departing chancellor Merkel, probably she couldn't afford a ticket to Argentina which is why she plans to turn Germany into her exile so she can enjoy her retirement peacefuly without having to move abroad. ;)
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BTW, an article in my newspaper today claims that some states in the Southeast, such as Florida, are paying people not to be vaccinated by providing them unemployment payments if they are fired from their company for refusing to be vaccinated. :(
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Funny, but I'd always imagined 'Tooseevee' as residing in some idyllic coastal woodlands remove, a manly compound of sorts, which I seem to recall had a painted white police forensic outline of a body in its driveway. I'd have guessed that alone might have served as sufficient incentive to any roaming snatch-and-grabbers to move on and seek out some other "less challenging" dwelling with Bernie Sanders or Biden-Harris bumper stickers on the vehicles for their depredations. No, I'd have surmised the worst our man 'Tooseevee' had to fear was the odd bold roving racoon getting into the kitchen and helping himself to all the marshmallow bits from the Lucky Charms. Firearms around? Sure...splendid antiquey stuff...like flintlock blunderbusses or maybe an oiled and gleaming 1898 Webley-Vickers. I wouldn't have guessed he'd be strapped up in ultra-vigilant round-the-clock readiness like Jason Bourne prepped for the Visigoths. Won't those tweakers be surprised too...
You're more or less correct in your view of our sitchewashun here. Chances are we'll never have to hold off the Visigoths here, but every day that is added to the 32 years that we have been here increases the odds that one of these nights some yahoos might, by a simple twist of fate, decide to "let's see what's down this little road".
Our road is a one-lane blacktop, unaccepted town road that will never be improved unless "we" do it ourselves. It's also surrounded by a huge farm, a lot of which is now in conservancy so it can never be developed. There are only 5 houses then it dead-ends. The first house is owned by a real estate lady, the 2nd is ours & the other three are now owned by the lady doctor & her husband (Xcellent neighbors) who bought the house next to ours 26 years ago. Since then they have bought the other two houses & VERY selectively B&B them until in later years their children maybe move here. They have done massive improvements to all 3 as we have done here.
There is zero traffic here except for friends and UPS/FedEx trucks. There is no REAson for any other traffic. But since the country has increasingly gone to hell in a hand basket more & more since Hillary was President & dragged Bubba along with her with no end in sight, a 9mm or .45 & a shotgun have loomed larger on my Christmas list every year. And I've put it off yet another two years now I suppose because of Covid. I just don't care to go much of anywhere these days.
No more on this subject, I think - I blabber too much. That's why I'm not on Facebook or Twitter Twatter.
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Paid to NOT get vaccinated? Paid super-spreaders? Paid bio-reactors for the next mutation? Exactly how stewpid does that make us look to countries like Brazil, India, most of Asia & Africa, etc. with crashed hospital systems, very limited vaccine access & folks dying at home? The really creepy part is that these "Noble Warriors" making these anti-survival decisions all know better but choose to give lip service to the Internet driven Alt-Reich. Do these worthies think they're the new nascent Vichy-leadership? In the USA there's maybe 100,000,000 folks refusing to logically connect the dots and preferring to accept at face value whatever unfounded paranoid kak Facebook tells them. We have two world powers prepared & poised to do a land grab/"reacquisition". These same powers are verifiably running the tables of Social Media to get US & Euro folks on board as an in-place, on-call 5th Column. The only good news here is that high tech wars generally don't last long, as the hardware generally craps out after a couple weeks on the battlefront. The bad news is that if it does drag on, it inevitably comes down to boots on the ground toting rifles. Is that what the Alt-Reich really wants, a shooting war to "sort it all out"? Maybe a shooting Civil War II? Do they really want to get those "I brought on the End of Days" tatts & sew on patches that badly? If so, the "Great Reset (to the stone age)" will actually be brought on by the boredom & petulance of folks that generally had a safe place to sleep and food to eat, folks already at the 95th Percentile of existence.
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The states that are paying people who get fired or quit for not getting vaccinated are (drum-roll, please): Florida, Iowa, Kansas and Tennessee. I wouldn't be surprised if this anti-vaccination scheme catches on in some other "red" states. ::)
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The states that are paying people who get fired or quit for not getting vaccinated are (drum-roll, please): Florida, Iowa, Kansas and Tennessee. I wouldn't be surprised if this anti-vaccination scheme catches on in some other "red" states. ::)
I quid already 2 job's due to ridiculous mandates. Can't wait for such states to emerge around here. Looks like the chances are better starting my own kingdom though. ;D ;D ;D
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Jesus fuckin Christ...
https://www.rac.co.uk/innovation/ev-boost
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Looks like a good gig for a guy with a sidehack! A 10KW generator, some charging connectors, and Bob's your Uncle, money in the bank. Probably a good way to meet nice ladies with lots of cats... ::)
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@ #732: I guess we need to let Jair Bolsonaro know you're coming - get that Portugese/German app on your phone now! ;D ;D ;D
After you get Brazilian citizenship, maybe run for that "President" job. Jair will probably be done by then. You may need to get an actual "Brazilian" to run, though... :o 8)
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-12-02/germany-locks-down-the-unvaccinated-weighs-vaccine-mandate
Germany Locks Down the Unvaccinated, Weighs Vaccine Mandate
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I have ro disappoint you, after a decade amongs swedish rats, there is nothing that could disappoint me.
Waiting for the retard with the taurus, and than i happily take the bullet. ;)
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Seeing as how you are ready & willing to shuffle off, why not volunteer to be a "control" for C19 Omicron? If nothing happens, you're home free. If you end up on a respirator in a coma, valuable data on mortality has been generated. My money is that if you come off the respirator successfully, I'm fairly certain you won't be saying "I'd have rather died than gotten the jab." You will be exposed, somewhere, somehow, so better to take a hit knowingly & be monitored that hope someone finds you in your apartment before you suffocate in your own lung juices. Better a proven $50 vaccine with a very high probability of zero hospital time than a $700 miracle drug (Remdesivir (Veklury)) regimen in the hospital.
What treatments are available for COVID-19?
The FDA has approved the antiviral drug Veklury (remdesivir) for adults and certain pediatric patients with COVID-19 who are sick enough to need hospitalization. Veklury should only be administered in a hospital or in a health care setting capable of providing acute care comparable to inpatient hospital care.
During public health emergencies, the FDA may authorize the use of unapproved drugs or unapproved uses of approved drugs under certain conditions. This is called an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)External Link Disclaimer. Therapeutic products authorized under an EUA are listed on the FDA’s EUA page.
For example, the FDA has issued EUAs for several monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19 for the treatment of mild or moderate COVID-19 in adults and pediatric patients (ages 12 and older weighing at least 40 kilograms, about 88 pounds) with positive results of direct SARS-CoV-2 viral testing, and who are at high risk for progressing to severe COVID-19 and/or hospitalization. One EUA for a monoclonal antibody product includes use for preventative (prophylaxis) treatment after being exposed to SARS-CoV-2. This product is not a substitute for vaccination against COVID-19.
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/know-your-treatment-options-covid-19
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2007764
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...well than you need a booster for the omicron. Actually i don't care if i die in 5 minutes from now, i have zero intentions to send a cent of my hard earned money to Gates and his fantastic generation. ;)
https://youtu.be/72e-p3wn6WE
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Seeing as how you are ready & willing to shuffle off, why not volunteer to be a "control" for C19 Omicron? If nothing happens, you're home free. If you end up on a respirator in a coma, valuable data on mortality has been generated. My money is that if you come off the respirator successfully, I'm fairly certain you won't be saying "I'd have rather died than gotten the jab." You will be exposed, somewhere, somehow, so better to take a hit knowingly & be monitored that hope someone finds you in your apartment before you suffocate in your own lung juices. Better a proven $50 vaccine with a very high probability of zero hospital time than a $700 miracle drug (Remdesivir (Veklury)) regimen in the hospital.
What treatments are available for COVID-19?
The FDA has approved the antiviral drug Veklury (remdesivir) for adults and certain pediatric patients with COVID-19 who are sick enough to need hospitalization. Veklury should only be administered in a hospital or in a health care setting capable of providing acute care comparable to inpatient hospital care.
During public health emergencies, the FDA may authorize the use of unapproved drugs or unapproved uses of approved drugs under certain conditions. This is called an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)External Link Disclaimer. Therapeutic products authorized under an EUA are listed on the FDA’s EUA page.
For example, the FDA has issued EUAs for several monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19 for the treatment of mild or moderate COVID-19 in adults and pediatric patients (ages 12 and older weighing at least 40 kilograms, about 88 pounds) with positive results of direct SARS-CoV-2 viral testing, and who are at high risk for progressing to severe COVID-19 and/or hospitalization. One EUA for a monoclonal antibody product includes use for preventative (prophylaxis) treatment after being exposed to SARS-CoV-2. This product is not a substitute for vaccination against COVID-19.
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/know-your-treatment-options-covid-19
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2007764
My niece is an ED specialist and says if anti-vaxxers are paranoid about the vaccine; wait until they end up in ICU on a respirator - the amount of poisons they pump into a seriously ill patient to keep them alive would blow their narrow minds.
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This is confidence inspiring.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/
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Another point of view.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/11/19/fda-2076-vaccine-data/
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As much as Snopes has a fairly good track record it ain't over until the fat lady sings, worth keeping an eye on as to the outcome.
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My money is on Putin in the Ukraine and Taiwan "reunified" with the PRC by March whilst the "free" world stands by, indulging in an orgy of self immolation driven by social media "patriots" & complicit GOP/Right Wing Vichy leadership. That's the important outcome to avoid. If the vaccine is actually a trojan horse, anyone associated with Big Pharma won't be able to step outside their compound again without springing a leak; this is Amurrika where virtually everyone has a deer rifle & long memory. Biden went out of his way to say no more lockdowns to avoid personally initiating CWII, in the face of the viral-spread countermeasures being taken by our offshore allies. The evening news is now describing Chinese hypersonic ship killing weaponry (poorly), there are geopolitical maps on the news showing Russian armour & troops surrounding the Ukraine, and another long article about how much explosives & ordinance the Army & other services have "lost track" of, apparently redirected to Alt-Reich groups. Meanwhile the entire GOP leadership is still lip-synching for the Trump Qanon crowd, still whinging about stolen elections, still banging on about removing college level classes from grade schools that don't exist and being supported by wide eyed, very vocal Qanon fed parents. We have weekly mass shootings by nut cases raised on "First Person Shooter" games and conspiracy websites. The capacity for the USA to rub two coherent thoughts together for our collective survival doesn't look too encouraging to me. Whatever come next will be really ugly, really stupid & utterly avoidable.
I don't think that worrying about possible adverse vaccine side effects in a country as litigious & well armed as the USA compares in urgency; that horse has left the barn. Our main concern needs to be making rational choices & presenting a unified front to the foreign agencies deliberately sowing dissent. Broken can be mended. Managing a process takes rational thought & hard work. The only folks benefitting by letting things burn to the ground are scrap dealers & insurance fraudsters.
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There is nothing left to repair, may as well polish Putins Zil. Who releases such horses on the public has lost any credibility whatsoever. Waiting for the retard with the gun that comes to enforce the vaxx mandates.
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My niece is an ED specialist and says if anti-vaxxers are paranoid about the vaccine; wait until they end up in ICU on a respirator - the amount of poisons they pump into a seriously ill patient to keep them alive would blow their narrow minds.
My flatmate in an anti-vaxer, she is quite happy to take horse medicine, weird concoctions of apple cider vinegar and strange home made herbal remedies some idiot on the internet came up with over a few beers one weekend, also some weird brew she lets ferment in a jar in the shed that looks like swamp water and has even considered bleach, however she refuses to go near any vaccine as she is convinced vaccines are "untested" and have killed hundreds of millions of people world wide and it is all being covered up by the government or aliens or lizard people or something.
Personally I wish covid were more virulent but the vaccine was was 100% effective as it would kill off the anti vaxer population while leaving the rest of us just fine - and hence substantially improve the human gene pool overnight.
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Personally I wish covid were more virulent but the vaccine was was 100% effective as it would kill off the anti vaxer population while leaving the rest of us just fine - and hence substantially improve the human gene pool overnight.
I see that sentiment more and more, that sounds like a very Murican solution to me, why not just get guns and start blowing these pesky anti vaxxers away, it'd be a more pro active solution than waiting on Darwin to do it for you. Flip side is the therory that the treatment (it's not a vaccine) is promoting the mutations so maybe the anti vaxxers can arm themselves as well and we can have a pandemic civil war as we all know as human beings that bloodshed solves everything. Seriously, isn't that a hard line to take?
The fear and the division we are facing from the pandemic is ramping up more everyday, I found what I consider a good discussion by rational minds on the subject, maybe we can hold off on wholesale murder for a while longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_uAwsVn10Y
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Is there really some compelling reason to re-enact "The Handmaids Tale" in real time? Masks & distancing demonstrably work, but not if sporadically applied. The same goes for vaccines therapies. These are just tools. Used properly they reduce & can possibly halt spread. Unused you are simply saying "Live or die because of your genetics, bro." If we could have a sane, upfront conversation regarding that outcome I think it's possible folks might get on board, but we haven't.
There is a cost to doing nothing. When the hospitals crash there is collateral damage to both the vulnerable infected and the "normal" patients from denial of services. My "Do Nothing" plan was to cut a check for maybe $200K to every Covid related or "service denial" related death victim, it'd have been cheaper than what we've done so far. 200K is several years pay to the average wage earner. Debt would be reduced, college becomes a possibility, maybe paying off/acquiring a home, a crappy but better outcome than just piles of bodies outside hospitals. But somehow I don't really believe people would have gone for that plan.
What we are actually doing is voluntarily turning a public health issue into a rallying meme for the alt-right, largely driven by social media to the exclusive benefit of China & Russia. That's verifiable. There's no reason to believe C19 is a hoax other than it gives you a rational to believe you are being persecuted. The Cyber Armies of these two countries need you to believe that. The evening news tells you it's nearly 1938 all over again, for the same "Acquisition of resources" reasons. As Franklin said - "Hang together or hang separately".
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@ # 744: Spiro T. Agnews statement "Nattering nabobs of nihilistic negativism" comes to mind...
" There is nothing left to repair, may as well polish Putins Zil. Who releases such horses on the public has lost any credibility whatsoever. Waiting for the retard with the gun that comes to enforce the vaxx mandates. "
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Nabobs_natter_about_the_passing_of_William_Safire_1929-2009.html
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https://youtu.be/XkOdMRUQkN8
Sweden and California meeting. I'm all for it, we just have to make the Californians and Sweds pay for it. Blood, sweat and tears for the pigs. :D
Surprisingly there was not even knife waving on the part of our environmental hero.
Im exactly interested in this sort of women. ;D
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Get those LATAM Airline tickets now! Maybe the GT can go in as baggage?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/03/biden-administration-seeks-to-prevent-potential-russian-invasion-of-ukraine.html
Biden administration seeks to prevent potential Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Get those LATAM Airline tickets now! Maybe the GT can go in as baggage?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/03/biden-administration-seeks-to-prevent-potential-russian-invasion-of-ukraine.html
Biden administration seeks to prevent potential Russian invasion of Ukraine
Why wasting money on that ticket. Soon we may be flooded with cheap Ukrainian labour. Maybe the massage parlours may have to reopen though. At 3$/h we can restart the manufacture of hand bespoke wheels for the upcoming age of classic motorcycles too.
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" Soon we may be flooded with cheap Ukrainian labour. "
Soon you may also get a close up look at a T-14 or T-90, likely something you don't want to do. Or you get to be conscripted to the motor pool to support the national effort. Swapping countries does come with some obligations. "To each according to his need, by each according to his ability" in times of trouble, yes? At post-60, watching the fray from the beaches of Rio with some spare change in your pocket seems prudent.
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Sounds good, plenty available commercial realestate around. The T-14 and T-90 can roll directly inside, will be a good museum. Most people haven't seen a tank in their lifetime, sounds like an exciting business opportunity. Exporting prosperity was not very rewarding anyway, working on it even less.
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Yeah - I've heard that "rolling inside commercial real estate" is something that the new T-14 & T-90's do well. May be job opportunities later sorting & reclaiming bricks.
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Yeah - I've heard that "rolling inside commercial real estate" is something that the new T-14 & T-90's do well. May be job opportunities later sorting & reclaiming bricks.
The damage can't be worse that what "build back better" crowd already caused. We are going to be fined soon 3000$ for going to the pub, glad i've spent the 3000$ on the ace head already beforehand. The build back better crowd can start building, I'm certainly not going to build a shit anymore, maybe BoJo can start leading by example.
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" The damage can't be worse that what "build back better" crowd already caused."
In the real, actual, physical world, that legislation is still in progress, not enacted, so any "damage" exists entirely inside your own mind and on Fox/OAN/NewsMax/talk radio. You should get out more, go to the bar un-vaxxed & maskless, pay some fines, support the German economy. The current President actually shows up for work and tries to do good for the country, unlike previous examples glued to the golf course at Mir-a-Lago for $8,000,000 a weekend. Has Putin selected Germany's next Chancellor yet? He's trying hard to elect our next President via the GOP. Maybe he'll come to a town near you soon for a personal meet-'n-re-educate, er, greet.
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" The damage can't be worse that what "build back better" crowd already caused."
In the real, actual, physical world, that legislation is still in progress, not enacted, so any "damage" exists entirely inside your own mind and on Fox/OAN/NewsMax/talk radio. You should get out more, go to the bar un-vaxxed & maskless, pay some fines, support the German economy. The current President actually shows up for work and tries to do good for the country, unlike previous examples glued to the golf course at Mir-a-Lago for $8,000,000 a weekend. Has Putin selected Germany's next Chancellor yet? He's trying hard to elect our next President via the GOP. Maybe he'll come to a town near you soon for a personal meet-'n-re-educate, er, greet.
Why not flushing all cash directly in the toilet, just fix the free water supply. I meet daily about a hundred people. Still no corona though, definitly need a larger exposure...
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" The damage can't be worse that what "build back better" crowd already caused."
In the real, actual, physical world, that legislation is still in progress, not enacted, so any "damage" exists entirely inside your own mind and on Fox/OAN/NewsMax/talk radio. You should get out more, go to the bar un-vaxxed & maskless, pay some fines, support the German economy. The current President actually shows up for work and tries to do good for the country, unlike previous examples glued to the golf course at Mir-a-Lago for $8,000,000 a weekend. Has Putin selected Germany's next Chancellor yet? He's trying hard to elect our next President via the GOP. Maybe he'll come to a town near you soon for a personal meet-'n-re-educate, er, greet.
Right now I think Putin is considering who will be his president of Ukraine. After that he will turn his attention to Poland or Georgia. :o Gotta bring back the USSR again, just like in the glory days when everyone had to stand in line for everything - most of which wasn't available except in the Communist party's dreams. ::)
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@ # 757: You may be one of the lucky ones, an asymptomatic super spreader doing your share to help Germany achieve "herd", granting hospital personnel some OT & helping out the local mortuary. Commendable. Unless you test multiple times with an "80% success rate" kit you won't know either way.
@ # 758: +1 Comrade, is good to be Party Boss, da? No shortages at the top of the food chain...
Putin's last move went unchallenged, the Ukraine will be a much bigger plum. You have to be unified to push back, and with the current Alt-Reich craziness on a hair trigger waiting breathlessly for the Anointed Word from Facebook, things aren't looking good anywhere. What a dream come true for Xi Jinping & Putin, to have such a ready made 5th column in place, "standing down & standing by" for a diversion.
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I test daily, new mandate directly from the bunker in Berlin. Time to quit this job too. There is always some fazi around who feels obliged to control it.
Maybe that's still not sure and safe enough though, maybe hourly? How about someone smart, maybe in Sweden invents a Covid sensor that can send the status live to your politicians cell phone?
Anyway the ratio vaxxed to unvaxxed is 80:20, who would have thought. Why is the covid still a issue when the vaxx is so effective?
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How can anybody be anti-VAX after this? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPp_kU9YLgw
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@ #760: Duhhhh...I dunno....maybe because there are a lot of people? Maybe because the virus properties change a bit daily? Maybe because it's still being passed around by the careless? But it is good to know that you are not inadvertently aggravating the situation if you are actually testing daily.
The reason it's important to show sources to support your assertion/speculation is otherwise it's just another unsupported, biased opinion. Irrelevant noise. Take the time, find a reputable source, do the math or whatever, show sources. Opinions are great if there is some hard fact supporting them. Without that, they quickly devolve to propaganda.
Here's where my stats come from:
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/germany/
Vaccination: Germany has administered at least 127,656,766 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that’s enough to have vaccinated about 76.8% of the country’s population.
About this data
This vaccine rollout data is reported by the number of doses of coronavirus vaccines administered, not the number of people who have been vaccinated. Because most vaccines require two doses and many countries have different schedules to deliver the second dose, we don’t know with this data how many people have ultimately received both doses.
https://www.jwatch.org/na54095/2021/09/30/elucidating-reinfection-after-covid-19
COMMENT
Taken together, these studies point to a 1% risk for reinfection after an episode of COVID-19. The mechanisms underlying certain factors associated with reinfection (e.g., excess risk in women) need further investigation. Other factors seem more readily explained (e.g., excess risk in immunocompromised patients), but elucidating risk for reinfection despite full vaccination in COVID-19–naive individuals is imperative. My own (Infection 2021 Sep 25. opens in new tab) and other research has demonstrated a considerable rise of anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody levels in COVID-19 survivors after booster vaccination, which will likely lower risk for reinfection further than relying on natural immunity alone.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html
This source shows Germany at 69% fully vaccinated.
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@ #760: Duhhhh...I dunno....maybe because there are a lot of people? Maybe because the virus properties change a bit daily? Maybe because it's still being passed around by the careless? But it is good to know that you are not inadvertently aggravating the situation if you are actually testing daily.
The reason it's important to show sources to support your assertion/speculation is otherwise it's just another unsupported, biased opinion. Irrelevant noise. Take the time, find a reputable source, do the math or whatever, show sources. Opinions are great if there is some hard fact supporting them. Without that, they quickly devolve to propaganda.
Here's where my stats come from:
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/germany/
Vaccination: Germany has administered at least 127,656,766 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that’s enough to have vaccinated about 76.8% of the country’s population.
About this data
This vaccine rollout data is reported by the number of doses of coronavirus vaccines administered, not the number of people who have been vaccinated. Because most vaccines require two doses and many countries have different schedules to deliver the second dose, we don’t know with this data how many people have ultimately received both doses.
https://www.jwatch.org/na54095/2021/09/30/elucidating-reinfection-after-covid-19
COMMENT
Taken together, these studies point to a 1% risk for reinfection after an episode of COVID-19. The mechanisms underlying certain factors associated with reinfection (e.g., excess risk in women) need further investigation. Other factors seem more readily explained (e.g., excess risk in immunocompromised patients), but elucidating risk for reinfection despite full vaccination in COVID-19–naive individuals is imperative. My own (Infection 2021 Sep 25. opens in new tab) and other research has demonstrated a considerable rise of anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody levels in COVID-19 survivors after booster vaccination, which will likely lower risk for reinfection further than relying on natural immunity alone.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html
This source shows Germany at 69% fully vaccinated.
The better option though is to go to a corona party where people infect themselves in order to obtain the status "recoverd". I probably already had it though. Unfortunatelly, the people in the bunker are about to start testing the vaxxed and recoverd too, so there is really no end in sight.
127,656,766 vaxx doses sold in here around not bad sells better than hot cakes, well we "have to" buy into it. Just can´t wait when this page turns. ;)
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Who's Merkel's replacement going to be? Someone with experience? Tough times coming...
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How can anybody be anti-VAX after this? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPp_kU9YLgw
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Nice hear George T mining some Bo Diddley, here's the real thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIL6uXnE748
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Who's Merkel's replacement going to be? Someone with experience? Tough times coming...
I doubt it matters very much anymore. Retrospectively, i consider the ex. premier minister of sweden Stefan Leven has done fairly good job managing the swedish political soap opera. There was a joke going on back than: "What's the difference between Merkel and Löven? Merkel has balls, Löven doesn't." The joke has proven fairly accurate when it came to managing Covid since the Löven government failed to take decisive measures as response. There was no complete lockdown, there was no mandarory masking up, which imho was the correct thing to do. However many view it as weakness. Maybe the new premier Magdalena has bigger balls and takes measures that apparently so many want to see and sucks out the last cent out of the economy.
I think the new German government may face a similar fate as the swedish entered since about 2015.
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Here is the latest German government political news.
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@ # 766: Thanks for that, good synopsis.
@ # 767: Nice article. Looks like the far-right is a real issue for them, at least they publicly acknowledge it.
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@ # 766: Thanks for that, good synopsis.
@ # 767: Nice article. Looks like the far-right is a real issue for them, at least they publicly acknowledge it.
The far right is them, they just did´t figure it out yet. ;)
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Here's an actual definition of Far-Right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics
Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being anti-communist, authoritarian, ultranationalist, and having nativist ideologies and tendencies.[1]
Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism, today far-right politics include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views.[2]
Far-right politics can lead to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, or genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions.[3][/b]
You don't get to use your own definitions when having a "public" conversation, as that leads to confusion & misunderstanding. Our Alt-Reich over here likes to redefine words also, it's a convenient way of obscuring/misleading the actual conversation. By their definition, Elizabeth Cheney, a savagely highly educated, 3rd generation line-bred warhawk is a "liberal" because she didn't parrot the crazy, obviously disprovable, patently ridiculous bullshit coming from 45 and his band of "Peter Principle" selected minions. Up is down, big is little. No insurrection on 06 January, just a group of out-of-town tourists taking a stroll. "Stand down & stand by" will get us all speaking Mandarin or Russian.
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@ # 763: Corona Party! or "How to become an asymptomatic super-spreader". Increase contagion transmission & reduce available medical care in one simple step!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59561876
Nearly 70 Spanish medics Covid positive after Christmas party
Almost 70 medics who attended a large Christmas party in southern Spain have since tested positive for Covid-19, authorities say.
Most of the 68 infected are doctors and nurses working in the intensive care unit at Málaga's regional hospital.
Health authorities said they were all at a party attended by about 170 people last Wednesday.
All guests returned negative antigen tests before the event but more than half are now isolating.
The infected staff were all fully vaccinated and are showing no symptoms, health authorities said.
Local reports say doctors and nurses from other departments at Málaga's regional hospital in Andalusia have been redeployed to cover for their colleagues.
The outbreak has heightened concerns about the risk of spreading Covid at social events during the Christmas period.
To mitigate this risk, health authorities in Andalusia had advised hospital staff not to attend Christmas parties.
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Here's an actual definition of Far-Right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics
Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being anti-communist, authoritarian, ultranationalist, and having nativist ideologies and tendencies.[1]
Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism, today far-right politics include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views.[2]
Far-right politics can lead to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, or genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions.[3][/b]
You don't get to use your own definitions when having a "public" conversation, as that leads to confusion & misunderstanding. Our Alt-Reich over here likes to redefine words also, it's a convenient way of obscuring/misleading the actual conversation. By their definition, Elizabeth Cheney, a savagely highly educated, 3rd generation line-bred warhawk is a "liberal" because she didn't parrot the crazy, obviously disprovable, patently ridiculous bullshit coming from 45 and his band of "Peter Principle" selected minions. Up is down, big is little. No insurrection on 06 January, just a group of out-of-town tourists taking a stroll. "Stand down & stand by" will get us all speaking Mandarin or Russian.
Hmm, I'm in the unvaxxed minority now, and i feel discriminated against. ;)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_rights
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Hmm, I'm in the unvaxxed minority now, and i feel discriminated against. ;)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_rights
You are perfectly within your rights to choose to be un-vaccinated - but there may well be consequences - this explains why you are NOT being discriminated against :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSldjsHs1WY&t=63s
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You are perfectly within your rights to choose to be un-vaccinated - but there may well be consequences - this explains why you are NOT being discriminated against :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSldjsHs1WY&t=63s
Is there a reason the highly risk aware bunny is wearing a pink costume? I would get atleast an eye cancer looking at it a second too long. She should put on atleast the mask.
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Probably the same reason speakers in the US Senate & House remove their mask when speaking before the all-vaccinated (?) & mask wearing (at least on their face or head...) groups there, the risk is low, the need to be clearly understood is high.
But inability to comprehend basic social concepts, an abhorrence of bright colours, these are all possible symptoms of long covid...get that hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, amphetamine, cocaine, and nicotine suppository ready(on sale on the dark web for US$300), go roll in the snow, and good luck!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unproven_methods_against_COVID-19
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Well thank you. Two caipirinhas for today will do, tomorrow maybe a page from that camasutra and i am healed, well maybe 2 pages. ;)
Maybe you can educate me about the risk of Ebola or HIV tomorrow, i am pretty bored of Corona.
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Maybe you can educate me about the risk of Ebola or HIV tomorrow, i am pretty bored of Corona.
Good analogy. The Ebola vaccine developed back in 2015/2016 (which luckily was never needed) was also a mRNA vaccine and probably would have resulted in the same idiotic objections as the current round of mRNA vaccines.
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Good analogy. The Ebola vaccine developed back in 2015/2016 (which luckily was never needed) was also a mRNA vaccine and probably would have resulted in the same idiotic objections as the current round of mRNA vaccines.
It's no surprise a virus from china spreads faster than anything coming from elsewhere. Luckily the covid-19 is harmless comparatively.
Who would have thought thou that it would take a virus to manage the cloud work space though.
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It's no surprise that an airborne "avian flu" virus spreads faster than a "droplet or smearable contamination" hemorrhagic virus.
We have been "lucky, lucky" that the hemorrhagic Ebola variant isn't airborne. Mask & vaccine protocol "discussions" would have been very, very different in the face of a 90% lethality airborne hemorrhagic virus. There certainly wouldn't be any bullshit talk about masks infringing on your personal freedom, and there would have been MMA-grade fighting in the vaccine lines to be first for the Ebola MRNA-sourced vaccine. A 90% kill rate is more "up close & personal" than a 0.2% kill rate - a lot harder to ignore.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/25-years-ago-in-virginia-a-very-different-ebola-outbreak/
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Mask & vaccine protocol "discussions" would have been very, very different in the face of a 90% lethality airborne hemorrhagic virus. There certainly wouldn't be any bullshit talk about masks infringing on your personal freedom, and there would have been MMA-grade fighting in the vaccine lines to be first for the Ebola MRNA-sourced vaccine. A 90% kill rate is more "up close & personal" than a 0.2% kill rate - a lot harder to ignore.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/25-years-ago-in-virginia-a-very-different-ebola-outbreak/
Where I live over 95% of the population decided to do the right thing by friends and family, despite the risks and inconvenience, and got themselves vaccinated for unselfish reasons because it was the responsible thing to do. The other 5% decided to be selfish egocentric arrogant prats who refused to get vaccinated either as a political statement or because they refused to put themselves in even the slightest risk of personal harm even though they were putting their friends family and local community at risk.
In the Ebola situation the difference would be they would see a personal benefit to getting vaccinated and likely decide do it for personal benefit. The sort of person who is unvaccinated is never going to do something that disadvantages themselves (or goes against their political ideologies) merely for the benefit of others, other regarding behaviour is not "in their idiom" as Monty Python would say.
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Here is the latest German government political news.
It looks like our newly appointed health minister is about to depart to Argentina soon though. Hard-core shut downs of everything, mandatory vaxx against everything. Maybe forced labour next?...where you have to pay $$$ for going to work, kinda the successful swedish model?
Quote: "Double vaxxed are less or not at all protected...".
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Reeel nice unattributed "quote" there, pretty dismal post in all. The Swiss have a new suicide pod, might be a time saver for you?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59577162
Maker of suicide pod plans to launch in Switzerland
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Reeel nice unattributed "quote" there, pretty dismal post in all. The Swiss have a new suicide pod, might be a time saver for you?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59577162
Maker of suicide pod plans to launch in Switzerland
Well why bother with links when you are better in googling than me anyway. Whom did I hear complaining about time thieves? That would be my swedish friends, explaining me how difficult it's to do nothing. I certainly have no issues doing nothing at times. ;)
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Links indicate you are actually interested in others understanding your ideas you put out there. It's a courtesy to others as well. If you really don't care if you are understood, I fail to see why you post.
On the other hand you had some interesting things to say on the Jawa/Cz thread. I like that guy, he's informative & helpful. More from him! :)
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Links indicate you are actually interested in others understanding your ideas you put out there. It's a courtesy to others as well. If you really don't care if you are understood, I fail to see why you post.
On the other hand you had some interesting things to say on the Jawa/Cz thread. I like that guy, he's informative & helpful. More from him! :)
The issue with those political news and "rules" is that often there are 3 or 4 articles about the same subject stating some different point of view. Pick and choose for yourself....
....however they are seriously discussing vaxx mandates and apparently some went through. I would definitely quit that kind of a job. ;)
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...maybe you just need more time to do more research...the local Hospital likely has a treasure trove of information.
"The issue with those political news and "rules" is that often there are 3 or 4 articles about the same subject stating some different point of view. Pick and choose for yourself...."
It's just lazy to not support your opinion. If you can't figure out which sources are credible, maybe just don't have an opinion. When the talking heads on TV are yelling at you, that's a clue. A single unsupported, unknown Internet "button-pushing"source isn't proof, that's just entertainment or "truthiness".
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You are correct, i've got no opinion on this mandate of everything business, only disgust.
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You are correct, i've got no opinion on this mandate of everything business, only disgust.
Yesterday though i had a customer in the shop that would act like Sergeant Hartman from the famous movie Full Metal Jacket, so I agree that some folks seem to need it.
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Whaaat? We're not mind readers here...???????????
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Whaaat? We're not mind readers here...???????????
I don't know, a mad gone swedish cowboy who made it across the border? A nazi from the dark side of the moon?
Just went into the shop and gave Sergant Hartman for no obvious reason, i've seen this kind of BS only in Sweden before.
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OK...here's a reference...but still no clue as to what his rant was about or why it affected you. Behaviour like this shows up more in "gun control" states, not so much CCW states. Still need a lucid explanation as to what the point of contention was. Probably not much of this in Brazil, for similar reasons. Politeness saves lives.
https://characters.fandom.com/wiki/Gunnery_Sergeant_Hartman
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Ever tried to explain a swede that you don't want that sort of thing? They give you more of it.
I'm not a mind reader either, so can't tell you what the motives were.
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Dancing around, coyly not answering, so cute, so entertaining, so witty & urbane. Apparently you are unwilling or unable to explain why or how this person bothered you, what actually transpired, or if the event ever in reality actually occurred.
" Ever tried to explain a swede that you don't want that sort of thing? They give you more of it. "
By the transitive property then, you are Swedish. To the core. Railing against them is railing against yourself. You are so there. Whatever you ran from absorbed into you and followed you home. So own it. Enjoy your dinner of aquavit, Ärtsoppa & Pannkakor, just like old times. Trade in that old beater you are riding for a nice Vitpilen 701 with 75 real horsepower and a dry weight of only 350 pounds. Be Swedish, you surely act the way you profess to decry. Or put that guy back in his box and join the rest of us here just trying to get along & support each other. I've seen you do it, and it's great when you do.
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I don't care if you believe it or not, we have cctv to. If he comes again like that and gives such terror he will be picked up. Just got to love the swedtards that run into your shop to order you how to run it.
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Transitioning back to California for a moment: I just heard on the local CBS radio news that CA's governor has asked his staff to draft a bill based on the Texas abortion law that has currently been kicked downstairs into the court hopper by the Supreme Court. It would basically follow the abortion law's language regarding vigilante enforcement and just substitute abortion for "assault weapon" and "ghost gun".
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@ 794: Still no clue as to what the "customer" in your shop was "ranting" about or why it wound you up. Is it a secret?
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@ 794: Still no clue as to what the "customer" in your shop was "ranting" about or why it wound you up. Is it a secret?
He wanted a better service, for that he can go and shop online or download an ego shooter game to his computer.
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Thank you!
People get crazy over the Holidays. I'm glad I don't work in retail, I really couldn't handle it. People can just act nuts in shops.
Try to "leave it at the gate" as we used to say. Taking work BS home is hard not to do, but ultimately not too productive. Tinkering on your GT is good for your head, at least nobody is telling you what to do there, eh?
Thanks for opening up a bit, I can sympathize with having to deal with a wound-up customer. Retail is a tough racket, I'd much rather troubleshoot electrical issues at 3 AM than deal with unruly customers.
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Retail is harmless, most customers are well behaved here. You may not have seen yet some of the jerks in the r&d centres.
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Power Production is a different game. The real jerks tend to have "come to Jesus" attitude adjustment sessions in the parking lot. Then there's always the "Malicious Compliance" route - "Oh NO! He did EXACTLY what I told him to do..." :o
The point gets made that everybody has value & knows something, and deserves at least a modicum of respect. The overall "problem" we are pitted against is way too vast for one man alone. We pool knowledge, share resources, get it done. The "lone wolf" that needs no help because he fancies himself the smartest guy in the room soon dies on the vine. Nobody knows it all, nobody is irreplaceable. We have learned to "utilize all your resources" out of enlightened self interest.
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We have learned to "utilize all your resources" out of enlightened self interest.
That's the largest BS i've ever heard, like directly from the red Swedish mouth. No you have not.
I moved my cash out of the swedish banks. ;) ;D ...they can keep their best sh#it, i won't buy it.
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It's a successful industrial power production & distribution survival strategy. Hating the people you work with is a personal problem, co-workers are valued & respected for their knowledge, you don't have to be "besties". If the power plant is on it's ass or the line is relayed or down, our job is to restore it ASAP. One guy just can't do it.
The only BS here is from a guy that apparently deliberately refuses to get along or doesn't value anyone else's knowledge. That's all self inflicted, not a requirement. If it's just for entertainment purposes, that's a non-survival strategy if there ever was one. Keep your cash under your mattress for all I care, but unless it's a shoebox full of gold Krugerrands and you are able to set home all day & guard it with your 12 gauge, you're hosed anyway.
You have been clear of Sweden for a while now, you might ask yourself if it's not time to move on mentally. It doesn't sound too lucid from anywhere outside your own skull, put it away & try something different. Let that baggage go.
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Yeah, for entertainment purpose is when a thousend "engineers" discuss what's wrong with that powerplant while a handful outcast people is fixing it.
So there doesn't seem to be a issue, thousand can't go wrong.
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You are way out of your depth here. In Amurrika, the Instrument, Electrical & Test departments keep PPD running smooth & fix it when it stops. Mechanical stuff devolves to Boiler Mechanics & Welders. If big chunks fly our mysteriously, Engineering gets involved. Otherwise it's fix it and move on. This is all up close & personal, all the crews working together, Powerplant Operations letting us know what broke, how it was running, their best guess. Then we go to work & see what really happened. Sometimes just a faulty relay, sometimes a bobcat on a service transformer, sometimes a 5,000 HP forced draft fan shucks it's bearings & the 30' diameter impeller tries to eat it's way through the housing at 900 RPM. That'll pucker you up.
TDBU is similar, the System Operator has Substation or Powerline crew fix any issues. Again, big or repeat failures get Engineering involved. TDBU has a lot of public exposure, so upper management & engineering are seen more often - "Show the Flag". But the grunts make it happen.
Your personal experience is not the totality of existence. There is a lot of good stuff happening out there. Find it, support, amplify it. Nihilism makes a lonely playmate.
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I have had more often the issue with folks that keept fixing non exitent issues though. ;)
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Then there was a friend of mine had one of his drilling rigs in the outback topple in a storm because some apprentice sparky installing a new generator decided it was easier to cut a hole in a load bearing RSJ with a cutting torch to run his cables through, rather then conduit around it :D To make matters worse I think the hole was square not round, so you can imagine the effect on the structural integrity of the rig..
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In the power biz issues are apparent. In PPD hearing the switchyard breakers opening up and knowing there isn't an outage scheduled tells you your evening & maybe weekend is shot. TDBU folks get a 1000 frantic calls from customers wanting to know why the power is off and will it be back on in time for "Days of Our Lives". Issues are very "exitent".
In the wayback some SCE "soupr genus" decided we were going to experimentally burn hydrogen at the 60MW Coolwater plant, sourced from the coal gasification unit next door. I was on the Welding crew when we received a crate of burner nozzles. They consisted of a cylinder crudely "machined" into a tilting conical bucket, the cylinder/bucket sealing surfaces varied from 1/8" to 1/4" air gap and a 2" pipe fitting on the supply side. We pointed out the gap to the enganear and opined that high pressure H2 would likely flow back thru this large gap in use, not just solely into the bucket and thence the boiler. It might be better to use a metal flex-line we observed, eliminating the crude sliding "seal". "Weld them on as-is!" were the instructions.
On test day, Operators monitoring the burner front thru the observation windows noticed a glowing orange liquid flowing down the inside of the burner front. Turns out it was liquid stainless steel from the melting tilting bucket. (Side note: Hydrogen burns hot...) Weeks later we learned that the Texaco combustion specialists had told SCE months before to use flex lines to connect the buckets, because "H2 leaks around a mechanical seal & will melt the bucket." Too bad nobody on the Weld Crew had a Mechanical Engineering degree so they could be "heard", just common sense which wasn't enough. The third time we tried H2 we had flex lines in place....
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@ # 749: The last thing you'll hear..."Come back here boy, you're not done yet..." ;D ;D ;D
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@ # 749: The last thing you'll hear..."Come back here boy, you're not done yet..." ;D ;D ;D
You may never finish with those, the exit plan has to stand before you hear this words.
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In the meanwhile the EU commission declares gas and nuclear power to be green energy. Now they only need to declare petrol and diesel to be fossil free and it should provide the necessary spark to start that civil war in Sweden. Tough times for the new IKEA prime minister.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/eu-drafts-plan-label-gas-nuclear-investments-green-2022-01-01/
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Is the IKEA cabinet the reason that the price of furniture is going up 9% this year? ;)
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Seeing as how there aren't many "Greenies" here willing to live without flush toilets on a collective farm, I'm a bit amazed at the response to the EU. Here's what was actually stated, and the word pragmatic was used, so that ought to have resonated with our group:
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220101-eu-plans-to-class-nuclear-power-and-natural-gas-as-green-energy-sources
Fossil-reliant countries in the EU's east and south have also defended the use of natural gas, at least as a transitional source, even though it still produces significant greenhouse emissions.
"It is necessary to recognise that the fossil gas and nuclear energy sectors can contribute to the decarbonisation of the Union's economy," the commission proposal says.
It added that, for nuclear power, appropriate measures should be put in place for radioactive waste management and disposal.
And for gas, carbon-emission limits should be set to well below those produced by coal-burning plants, it said.
The EU's internal market commissioner Thierry Breton said last month that the European Union needed to be "pragmatic".
Nuke power is 24/7, CO2 free and only as dangerous as you wish to make in this Year of Our Lord 2022 A.D., the Nuke power path is well travelled. NatGas can be blended with up to 15% H2 painlessly all around, further reducing CO2 emissions of natgas over coal and providing the renewable energy storage that's critically needed to make the jump. Every cubic foot of H2 produced displaces a cubic foot of Putin's NatGas throat hold on Europe's fuel supply. Pure H2 requires dedicated equipment and transport lines, but it's mostly turbine blading and pipe coatings on the commercial end. As far as "Green Gasoline & Diesel", that's petro wizardry that has been available for likely 80 years. Once you have H2 feedstock and a source of carbon, like trash, biowaste or even atmospheric CO2, catalysts & a bit of laboratory voodoo can build anything - sugar, alcohol, Pemex or even Mobile 1 15W-50.
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As for petrol and diesel, you would see how green it is once they would stop selling it. That said i've not fished a dino tooth out of my petrol tank yet, so it's pretty fossil free.
So if anyone wishes to blend the nuclear waste energy in form of H2 into natgas, that sounds like a reasonable idea considering the solar and wind farm owners too wouldn't be very happy about being shut down. Their lobby is definitely better than the one of Royal Enfield owners.
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What are you trying to say here? " As for petrol and diesel, you would see how green it is once they would stop selling it. " The Russians are all about abiotic oil. Wikipaedia doesn't like the idea, but the Russians are successful in using the concept to find very deep oil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/on-energy/2011/09/14/abiotic-oil-a-theory-worth-exploring
" So if anyone wishes to blend the nuclear waste energy in form of H2 into natgas "
Nuke fuel, Uranium & hopefully soon Thorium, has to be mined and gets used up in the conversion to electricity. Wind & solar don't. You just buy the hardware, set it up & stand back. Wind hardware is higher maintenance, but at the high latitudes it's likely the best game in town. Paying extra money to convert one form (with attendant losses) of extracted, stored energy to another strikes me as wasted effort when there are better options out there. Save the nuke juice for those long, overcast windless coastal winters.
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I'm surprised that ye olde water mills haven't been recommissioned as hydroelectric generators :o
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Doesn't the U.S. have a big empty hole in the ground just made for nuclear waste? Somewhere in Arizona or Nevada? Another one of those wonderful mega-expensive government projects like a Big Dig. Kind of a hole to nowhere. ::)
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Well....Yucca Mountain ring a bell? The repository that never happened? In the Gojira franchise a few films back the female MUTO drug her lovely self out of Yucca Mountain and stomped all over Las Vegas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository
The Japanese have the best idea, just leave the spent fuel in the transport/storage casks & put the whole soggy mess in the middle of a well defended Military Base. Storage casks are extremely robust. The spent rods are reprocessable and contain some really valuable exotic voodoo elements after being cooked for a few years. Robots are perfectly capable of doing the scut work.
Nitrowing - land based Hydro is mostly already done, and the present total volume of whining essentially makes it way too pricey to site new Hydro. A private individual can use micro-hydro on a creek on their own land, but it's a microscopically small number of folks that applies to. Tidal or ocean-currents hydro is a real thing but hasn't really caught on in the USA. We are still litigating 30 miles offshore wind parks and other stupidities. Ocean current hydro is pretty exciting stuff, you could stream them behind a mothership (decomissioned oil tanker) at anchor like big-assed fishing lures, step up the power voltage on the ship & push power to shore through a cable. Subsea cable tech is good for over 1000 Megawatts, 8000+ feet depths and 150 miles.
There is a story in the power biz that the big High Voltage DC transmission system from Washington to Southern California had a back up system where they used the ocean as an emergency conductor in case they lost a (+) or (-) conductor. The story goes, that immediately after the initial system proof test the Power company got a visit from the NAVY strongly suggesting they not do that again...
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I always really liked that funny movie about the Martians destroying Las Vegas, Mars Attacks!. In particular, I liked the part when the Martians were trying to communicate with the President, both groups using their own interpreters. ;D
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The "Mars Attacks" scene where the Mother Ship landed in a large open playa was filmed at Red Lake, north of Kingman, Arizona. My wife got her 15 seconds of fame there as a crowd extra! ;D ;D ;D
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I got my 30 seconds of fame in a Dennis Hopper documentary movie, I gave quite a spiel on Hopper most but not all ended up on the cutting room floor. I did get a credit at the end of the film as part of the film crew as the camera person used myself and my sidecar rig to film action sequences of a group motorcycle ride during the annual Dennis Hopper Day ride that they featured in part of the film. The camera man turned out to be a very hot looking camera woman from Germany. The next day the rumors around town were rampant and I had some splainin' to do with Mrs. Childers. ;D
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"Evolution" was another lighthearted Sci-Fi film I enjoyed, filmed in Page, Az., with a short side trip to Window Rock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_(2001_film)
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"Evolution" was another lighthearted Sci-Fi film I enjoyed, filmed in Page, Az., with a short side trip to Window Rock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_(2001_film)
AZ does get a fair amount of film shoots. I remember a random day in Tucson, some Kevin Costner movie was doing a location shoot around the corner from my work ... mid 1990s. “Tin Cup” or something? Never saw it. ..
Now of course with east coast winter getting started and the bike in storage, wondering why I ever left...
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AZ does get a fair amount of film shoots. I remember a random day in Tucson, some Kevin Costner movie was doing a location shoot around the corner from my work ... mid 1990s. “Tin Cup” or something? Never saw it. ..
Now of course with east coast winter getting started and the bike in storage, wondering why I ever left...
The movie ranch outside of Tucson has had countless westerns filmed there over the decades. Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Colorado have been the back drop for many major and obscure films. John Murray's "Cinema Southwest" coffee table book is a very enjoyable read if you're interested in that sort of thing. Just about every summer I like to go dualsport camping in the San Juan mountains where the original "True Grit" was shot. One my favorite movies "Milagro Bean War" was shot practically in my backyard. The author of the book and screen writer for the movie John Nichols is a townie and I often run into him at the local book store.
https://www.high-lonesomebooks.com/pages/books/13225/john-a-murray/cinema-southwest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Milagro_Beanfield_War
https://www.coloradovibes.com/2010/02/true-grit-then-and-now/
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The first few minutes of the movie "Memoirs of a Geisha" were filmed about 5 miles from my home, at San Mateo County's Fitzgerald Marine Reserve. The film took over a bluff overlooking the Pacific Ocean in the unincorporated town of Montara, south of San Francisco, for about four months. There they built a neat thatch house and set up a lot of equipment within the forest along the bluff. When they were finished filming that portion of the movie they restored and improved the Reserve and turned it into a public hiking area. :)
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California is back in the news again. Proving that free government money gets the respect it deserves. >:(
San Mateo County, the county that I live in, paid over $10 million for all types of PPE, including K95 masks, face shields, medical gowns, and just about everything else you can think of. They used a U.S. government Covid-19 grant to buy the supplies. The county received over a thousand pallets of the equipment in cardboard boxes last September. They were stored inside a large building at the county fair grounds. During late September the fairgrounds had a 3-day event in the building. So they moved all of the stuff outside and stored it in a large parking lot. Then they forgot about it and it started to rain for the next couple of months. Last week a reporter from San Francisco's Channel 7 TV news station discovered the piles and piles of rotting cardboard boxes containing all of the PPE and blew the whistle on their 7 pm nightly news. The reporter interviewed the county manager who said that he had no idea that the PPE was in the parking lot rotting away. The county now has volunteers sorting through the products to see what can be salvaged. Whatever is in OK condition they plan to give to non-profit groups for their use. Meanwhile the county has hired an investigation company to see who is to blame for the mess. I bet they pin the tail on the county fairgrounds manager's donkey.
Then last night the same reporter reported that he had received a tip that another city in California did the same thing and was recycling all of the PPE that they had received, which had been damaged due to poor storage outside and was taking it to a recycling yard where it was being dumped in a big pile and then shredded. The reporter followed one of the trucks full of tons of PPE and verified that was the case.
What a waste of tax money. I guess if it is not your money, who cares what happens to the stuff that it is used for. >:(
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Whatever is in OK condition they plan to give to non-profit groups for their use.
Exactly the swedish model. If you not happy with your pay as CEO or what ever job you may hold in the company of five bucks per hour than you are a retard and they find someone else. Than they stuff your income into Gretas foundation, or some other religious organisation like the anthroposofic anticlimax society.
Sweden is ahead, leading the world.
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The latest news on the SF Channel 7 TV station last night was that they found a pile of 14K Covid-19 tests in bright red plastic bags piled on a floor in a lab which had been sitting there for up to two weeks, instead of being processed within one or two days by the lab. Many of the tests were taken at a mass virus testing site at the same county fairgrounds mentioned above. The county had retained a local testing company to process the virus samples. They in turn, sent the samples to another sub-contractor for them to test the samples. That testing lab apparently only had one employee to process the 14K samples, which he didn't do.
The county said "oops"; the CEO for the county's contractor said sorry we won't do that again, please don't fire us; and the sub-contractor didn't reply to a request for comment by the TV news station's investigations reporter.
Once you stir the pot the poop start rising to the surface. ;)
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Sounds like a successful failure, plenty of companies out there the world would be better of without.
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Once you stir the pot the poop start rising to the surface. ;)
I found that to be true when I had my septic tank pumped last summer.
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Yup - the "Low Cost Bidder" approach is SO much better than in-house expertise. Too bad California doesn't have any College & University bio-facilities and grad students to press into service...or do they?
Personally I feel the testing is irrelevant as viral spread stop comes from following reasonable distancing, hygiene, masking & vaccination protocols, which about 35% of us are apparently either unable to comprehend or they think it's waaay too much fun to play aggrieved teenager instead. That attitude kills any possibility of the cooperation necessary to do contact tracing either, so that's also become a dead end strategy. When simple, commonsense strategies for common survival are allowed to become weaponized as part of a political strategy, it's over, there is no "common survival", it's just a game of "Us vs. Them".
I was in Starbucks yesterday morning (clearly posted as facial coverings required) and found an unmasked "businessman" standing about 5 feet away from the line but ahead of me in the que. I asked if he was in line and he irritatedly said yes. The absurdity of choosing to be maskless for political reasons in an enclosed public place and then trying to maintain "personal distance" in line was lost on him. Your personal belief system is irrelevant to a virus, you are just food. If you don't want to take reasonable precautions (masking and vaccination) and you actually ARE concerned about acquiring C19, then skip entering a crowded Starbucks and make coffee at home.
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Now c-19 is not ebola and there was 99% less influenca cases this winter. What a surprise.
Shut that Starbucks down, the coffe at home or the italian coffe shop down town tastes better anyway.
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95% less flu? Apparently masking & handwashing reduces disease transmission in general, who knew? I really can't argue with the "Mom 'n Pop Shop" preference for coffee, but Starbucks coffee is still better than Jack in the Box or MacDonald's. Less grease fumes anyway.
" Now c-19 is not ebola " If it WAS, we certainly wouldn't be having this discussion. Harsh reality would override the entertainment factor.
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Flu is dead, long live covid. ;D
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Personally, I am not convinced that testing is really worth the effort other than to fill the testing labs and other associated businesses and non-profits' coffers with big bucks. The news story last night said that the primary company that was hired by the county to take nose samples charged for their services, as did the sub-contracting lab that were supposed to test each sample and submit results to the county. I bet their bill was likely sent out before they even tested the samples as no one other than the people that were tested (and didn't receive the results within the promised two days) knew that someone had dropped the ball. After the work was supposed to be accomplished the bill would be sent to one or more insurance companies who paid the invoice and then they turned around and billed the U.S. government for a reimbursement. I bet everyone along the conga line received their 10% "Guido" before passing along the cost. ??? A picture of the test packages showed a price of just under $150 per package. >:(
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Agreed. The latest variant lifecycle is way too fast to worry about individual testing. CDC & State health agencies would be better served by checking sewage treatment wastewater if they want to track community spread. A clear C19 test doesn't mean that you weren't infected today or that you won't be shedding virus tomorrow. Testing doesn't equate to either protection or prevention. If you show up sick at the hospital, THEY'LL test you anyway. No symptoms doesn't mean you aren't a carrier. Blocking spread via distancing & masking are all we have. Getting vaccinated to mitigate C19's effect on your own person helps keep the total numbers down and hospitals open for real emergencies.
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In today's California virus news, a state legislator has just introduced a bill that would authorize children as young as 12 years old to go to a pharmacy or doctor and ask for a vaccination without their parents' permission and without their parents even knowing what they did. If the bill is approved by the state legislature and signed by the governor, the law will become effective next January 1.
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ALL of the local schools here were closed the last two weeks because almost the entire staff got C19, which means the schoolkids have it also. People at the local market are maybe 40% masked up, mostly olde geezers, but some young parents & their kids too. If that's as smart as the parents are in general, maybe the Governor's onto something. Why shouldn't the kids get a chance to commune with Bill Gates thru his nanos? There's also a general mandate coming to enforce vaccines for other communicable diseases also, TB, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Pertussis, Scarlet Fever, all the regular suspects. No real reason to relive the "good 'ol days" of 1925 America.
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Last night the city of San Jose, California, introduced an ordinance that would require all residents within the city limits to obtain liability insurance (I haven't heard yet in what amount of coverage) and to also pay a yearly fee of $25 for each registered gun owned. (This is what the radio news has been reporting. No doubt I will know more when I read about it in my newspaper.) The fee would be collected by the city and donated to various private organizations that assist the victims of gun violence.
A couple of thoughts come to mind. Likely more to follow: Are there any insurance companies willing to issue third-party liability insurance to gun owners? Collecting and distributing the gun ownership fee will require a city bureaucracy that will likely take a bite out of the fee collected. But the most obvious objection to the law is that only responsible gun owners would comply with the regulations. All of the criminals who steal guns, build "ghost guns", and do all of the shooting and killing in the city will certainly not be registering their guns, paying the fee and obtaining liability insurance to compensate the people that they injure or kill.
Unless otherwise blocked or modified, the ordinance would go into effect in August. Needless to say, there are already one or more gun rights groups threatening to sue the city if the law is implemented. The entire idea appears to be another way to keep California lawyers and courts fully employed and busy for many years. ::)
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Well...the NRA could do the legwork & offer such a policy to members. It could also sponsor legislation to fine criminal offenders (Make Whole) and transfer those monies to the insurance account.
So when do we get to permanently evict criminals from the USA? Their behavior says they don't want to be here. Tape a 'Gummin't check to them for maybe $50K and give the offender 90 days to negotiate with whomever is willing to accept them, or WE get to pick. $50K would be way cheaper than jailing them here. Biometrics are fully capable of finding recidivists that have crept back in. Barred individuals could be "repatriated" to their new alma mater via the next C130 passing nearby by automated HALO jump. Somalia and Zaire may have a real income stream coming on line, and the participants will certainly have an educational experience.
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My local newspaper just published a long Q&A article regarding San Jose's proposed anti-gun law. Here are the primary details:
The law is called the "Gun Harm Reduction Ordinance" and has two parts."It mandates that all San Jose residents who own a gun maintain a homeowners, renters or gun liability insurance policy that specifically covers losses or damages resulting from negligent or accidental use of their firearm."
"Additionally, the law requires that gun owners pay an annual fee to a nonprofit organization that will manage the funds and distribute them to groups who will offer various services like mental health services and suicide prevention programs to residents who own a firearm or live or are in relationship with someone who does."
The basic fee is set at $25 per gun, but may be increased to $35 to cover "administrative fees". "The city mayor envisions that the nonprofit will ask the Department of Justice to send out letters to all registered San Jose gun owners that are listed in their database and instruct them to pay the annual fee. Once payment is made the nonprofit will send the gun owner a form with proof of payment and space on the form to fill out the insurance information. That paperwork then should be carried or stored with an individual's firearm, according to the ordinance."
There is no information provided regarding how much liability insurance coverage to obtain. Interestingly "low-income residents facing financial hardships" would be exempt from complying with the law. ??? The proposed ordinance does not discuss what standards create a low-income resident facing financial hardships situation.
I almost forgot to mention that the city believes there are 50-55,000 households in San Jose that currently own guns. They expect the gun ownership fee to bring in around $1 million a year.
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I think the people of california ought to get pedestrian registration plate including a traffic insurance. The risks at crosswalks and slippery pedestrian paths are highly underestimated.
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I think the people of california ought to get pedestrian registration plate including a traffic insurance. The risks at crosswalks and slippery pedestrian paths are highly underestimated.
Speaking of that, San Jose subscribes to the "Vision Zero" plan that is trying to eliminate all pedestrian, bicycle and vehicle accidents in the city. It started about 4 years ago and accidents seem to be increasing every year, in spite of the city narrowing lanes, increasing traffic signal timing and doing other things that don't involve actual enforcement. During the past three weeks there have been three or more pedestrian deaths. All have been when the pedestrians walked across a boulevard at night while wearing dark clothing in between signalized intersections and were not seen by the vehicle driver who hit them and launched them into the local landscaping. So far this year there have been more traffic accidents than gun accidents. ::)
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Speaking of that, San Jose subscribes to the "Vision Zero" plan that is trying to eliminate all pedestrian, bicycle and vehicle accidents in the city. It started about 4 years ago and accidents seem to be increasing every year, in spite of the city narrowing lanes, increasing traffic signal timing and doing other things that don't involve actual enforcement. During the past three weeks there have been three or more pedestrian deaths. All have been when the pedestrians walked across a boulevard at night while wearing dark clothing in between signalized intersections and were not seen by the vehicle driver who hit them and launched them into the local landscaping. So far this year there have been more traffic accidents than gun accidents. ::)
I don´t have the statistics at hand to back my statement however I think on a relative scale walking or even driving to your covid-19 test centre is more dangerous than the infection with omicron atleast.
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My newspaper today just published an article that said that so far this year, San Jose has had 8 pedestrian deaths due to vehicle accidents. All 8 occurred when they were crossing just two multi-lane expressways. Last year there were 61 pedestrian deaths. These deaths are reviving a safety-concerned organizations demand to narrow streets and remove traffic lanes. So far I haven't heard anything about educating pedestrians regarding how to cross expressways safely. Vehicles are bad, bicycles, walking and taking mass transit is good. ::)
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God beware us from the politicos solving that problem too. ::)
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I think the people of california ought to get pedestrian registration plate including a traffic insurance. The risks at crosswalks and slippery pedestrian paths are highly underestimated.
Pedestrians in California ? Who told you about such a thing. There are no pedestrians in California.
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Pedestrians in California ? Who told you about such a thing. There are no pedestrians in California.
Well, there certainly are a lot of hikers. When I go out riding on Sunday morning like I will today, by 7am parking lots at hiking areas in the Santa Cruz Mountains are becoming packed. A couple of hours later, they are filled up and people are parking along the adjacent highway walking to the trails with their hiking poles. But by then they will have to watch out for mountain bikers that use the same trails. :o
Then in a city like San Fransisco, there are homeless people and drug dealers walking aimlessly all over the place and you never know when one of these zombies will decide to step out into a street in front of your vehicle hoping that you will hit them, at which time you will be sued by their attorney in the hopes of a big payday that will end their homeless situation and allow them to buy better quality drugs for the rest of their lives. ::)
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Well, there certainly are a lot of hikers. When I go out riding on Sunday morning like I will today, by 7am parking lots at hiking areas in the Santa Cruz Mountains are becoming packed. A couple of hours later, they are filled up and people are parking along the adjacent highway walking to the trails with their hiking poles. But by then they will have to watch out for mountain bikers that use the same trails. :o
Where I live is a tourist destination and since the pandemic there has been a huge uptick in traffic on the hiking trails that surround the town. when I go to town I pass one of the parking areas for a popular trail that had a half a dozen cars on average any day pre pandemic. Now typically it is jammed to capacity with 30 plus cars and more parked on the shoulders of the highway. The trail is now covered in trash, human feces and toilet paper, the trail itself is becoming eroded from so much foot traffic. This new wave of nature lovers is destroying a once pristine area. You can also count on mountain bikes and aggressive off leash dogs. My wife and I are avid hikers and now have to drive 15 to 20 miles away to access uncrowded uncluttered trails in the mountains or high desert. I'm waiting for the end of the pandemic when this new breed of hikers return to their movie theatres, restaurants and shopping malls.
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Where I live is a tourist destination and since the pandemic there has been a huge uptick in traffic on the hiking trails that surround the town. when I go to town I pass one of the parking areas for a popular trail that had a half a dozen cars on average any day pre pandemic. Now typically it is jammed to capacity with 30 plus cars and more parked on the shoulders of the highway. The trail is now covered in trash, human feces and toilet paper, the trail itself is becoming eroded from so much foot traffic. This new wave of nature lovers is destroying a once pristine area. You can also count on mountain bikes and aggressive off leash dogs. My wife and I are avid hikers and now have to drive 15 to 20 miles away to access uncrowded uncluttered trails in the mountains or high desert. I'm waiting for the end of the pandemic when this new breed of hikers return to their movie theatres, restaurants and shopping malls.
That is my feeling, also. >:(
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The latest news from the good old Peoples Republic of Kalifornia is that a state legislator has introduced (or is that revived?) a bill that would establish a "single payer" health care plan in the state that would somehow replace all medical insurance plans, as well as Social Security and all other medical payment systems. The estimated cost is between (in very round numbers) $350-$400 Billion a year that would be added to the state's current $250 Billion or so annual budget.
The law and its increased taxes to pay for it would first have to be approved by a 2/3 super-majority of the legislature (not hard to do here for a liberal cause) and signed by the governor. Then it would be placed on a ballot for the voters to consider. It would need to pass by 50%. When the legislator was asked how he could possibly get the state voters to pass a monumental tax increase, he replied that it would be structured so that only the "rich" would pay the increased tax. ::) What a dreamer. That would really cause the "rich" to head for the hills in other states, leaving the "poor" either footing the bill or receiving much less medical services than they have now. >:(
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Not to worry, Fox & Tucker have put Putin on the 2024 ticket...soon California politics will be the least of your worries, Comrade.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/27/tucker-carlson-support-putin-republicans/
https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/tucker-carlson-told-the-new-york-times-hes-not-a-russian-agent-amid-controversy-over-his-pro-kremlin-stance/articleshow/89162111.cms
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-21/putin-tells-republican-he-understands-vote-for-trump-in-2024
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In less exciting news, about a mile from my home I came across this vehicle apparently belonging to a homeless surfer. Either that or a collector of surfboards. Or maybe he is just ahead of the curve and is getting ready for the return of the USSR. ::)
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Aren't we done with Sweden yet? I'm done... :P
To be honest the thread has become more about making fun of autistic girls lately.
In terms of Sweden this is the limit of my knowledge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79TVMn_d_Pk
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California's "single-payer" health plan idea, which was said to be modeled after the one in Canada, has been dropped by the proponent. When he looked around at his fellow Democrats in the state legislature he discovered that while everyone loved the plan, no one wanted to pay for it (Surprise! ;) ). So yesterday it got shit-canned for this year. The hope is that it will come back to life in the future. Maybe California can print its own money and pay for it that way. :o
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How about issuing digital Cal-Buck currency? Save the printing & distribution costs! :o
Maybe also the 'Frisco Franc, the San Diego Scudo, The Redding Rand, the Yreka Yen, the Marin Mark, etc., etc...
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How about issuing digital Cal-Buck currency? Save the printing & distribution costs! :o
Maybe also the 'Frisco Franc, the San Diego Scudo, The Redding Rand, the Yreka Yen, the Marin Mark, etc., etc...
;D
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https://www.cityam.com/mark-zuckerberg-and-team-consider-shutting-down-facebook-and-instagram-in-europe-if-meta-can-not-process-europeans-data-on-us-servers/
This is probably the joke of the year. I would cry day and night if that happend. Maybe FB ought to buy up Spotify first and shut it down too.
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Facebook & Twitter, et al can go the way of the Dodo as far as I'm concerned. I see no benefit in creating platforms dedicated to information mining of its users and amplifying crazy. Our society has not improved by convincing folks they need "likes" to be whole or real, or disseminating disinformation mainly helpful to China's & Russia's interests. Shutter them. Use e-mail if you need to send pics to Aunt Ada or your friend Brittany. No one cares that you are eating breakfast, we don't need to know and you don't need to share.
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Facebook & Twitter, et al can go the way of the Dodo as far as I'm concerned. I see no benefit in creating platforms dedicated to information mining of its users and amplifying crazy. Our society has not improved by convincing folks they need "likes" to be whole or real, or disseminating disinformation mainly helpful to China's & Russia's interests. Shutter them. Use e-mail if you need to send pics to Aunt Ada or your friend Brittany. No one cares that you are eating breakfast, we don't need to know and you don't need to share.
+1
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Facebook & Twitter, et al can go the way of the Dodo as far as I'm concerned. I see no benefit in creating platforms dedicated to information mining of its users and amplifying crazy. Our society has not improved by convincing folks they need "likes" to be whole or real, or disseminating disinformation mainly helpful to China's & Russia's interests. Shutter them. Use e-mail if you need to send pics to Aunt Ada or your friend Brittany. No one cares that you are eating breakfast, we don't need to know and you don't need to share.
+2 ;)
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Facebook & Twitter, et al can go the way of the Dodo as far as I'm concerned. I see no benefit in creating platforms dedicated to information mining of its users and amplifying crazy. Our society has not improved by convincing folks they need "likes" to be whole or real, or disseminating disinformation mainly helpful to China's & Russia's interests. Shutter them. Use e-mail if you need to send pics to Aunt Ada or your friend Brittany. No one cares that you are eating breakfast, we don't need to know and you don't need to share.
Like! ..... Err ah, +1.
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https://amp.dw.com/en/germany-taps-greenpeace-head-jennifer-morgan-as-climate-envoy-reports/a-60704120
This seems to be another joke of the day. I don't know if it's a good or bad news though to make Gretas true mother the scare crow from greenpeace into an climate envoy. Are we going to see her shout on tv now daily? Otoh it might be a good idea to import some scape goats and put them into positions of responsibility to solve the order they've caused.
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Do not have a Facebook account or a Twitter account, nor do I live in Europe, so it is all "talk to the hand" on my account with this one.
I am surprised Murdoch has not tried to buy Facebook.
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https://www-dn-se.translate.goog/sverige/omhandertagna-barn-anvands-i-paverkanskampanj-mot-socialtjansten/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
more fun from Sweden.
This can´t be true, can it. In Sweden it can since everyone and every organisation seem to make their own laws. Somehow this feels like it´s going to end like in Romania under Nicolae Ceaușescu.
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A Biggo + 500 @ # 864: Do not have a Facebook account or a Twitter account, nor do I live in Europe, so it is all "talk to the hand" on my account with this one. I am surprised Murdoch has not tried to buy Facebook.
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We are at it again. ;) An Assembly woman in the People's Republic of Kalifornia has introduced a bill that would require all businesses in this great state to verify that all of their employees have been vaccinated. (When she was interviewed yesterday on the radio, she didn't say which vaccinations would be required. But I think she is only thinking of Covid. However, if and when this bill turns into a law, I imagine that the Covid horse might be out of the barn. ??? )
Now the best part of this law would be that all employers in the state would be the ones required to enforce the law. If they were found to have employees that were not vaccinated, they would be fined thousands of dollars (per employee, she didn't say?). As usual, the People's Republic doesn't want to enforce the laws that they pass but want others to take the heat. The pundits are saying that would drive even more businesses out of the state even faster than they are already leaving. ::)
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On San Francisco's KGO radio today at noon, a past president of the CA PUC, Lauretta Lynn, was interviewed. She spent 20 minutes outlining how PG&E makes more profit the higher they can push electric rates up. She said that they make 12.8% profit on their transmission lines, so the more they can charge for using them, the more profit they make. She also said that a change in state law a few years ago allows PG&E to raise their rates without PUC approval if they can demonstrate that the increase is for safety improvements. It was also mentioned that the rate payers get soaked for over $400 million in Federal taxes each year, but those taxes get rebated (or credited?) back to PG&E, who keeps them. She went on to explain even more ways that the company is screwing over their customers, but it got a bit too complicated for me to follow. It looks like they are sucking their customers dry and seem to be able to outsmart the PUC staff and their voting members. And so it goes in the People's Republic. >:( As always, follow the money. ::)
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Here is the latest personal transportation vehicle designed for the residents of the People's Republic of Kalifornia. ;D
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eu-freezes-putins-assets-as-west-draws-up-third-round-of-sanctions-gj2h58ml3
..another joke of the day, i bet Putin is scared to death now. ;D
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I think this is the perfect time for China to invade Siberia and annex it while the Russians are otherwise occupied.
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Der Ottonen - There are three carrier battle groups in the Mediterranean, two in the South China Sea. If Putin steps into NATO territory (unlikely) or gets into a Naval shootout with Allied ships (possible given the close-quarters situation), it gets real immediately. Until then we watch Ukraine get ground up in real time. Vlad has implied that at least tactical weapons are on the table if anyone interferes with his Ukranian wet dream. That's "Really F'n Nuts" for Russia as a whole, but he's 70 and reconstituting the CCCP is his lifelong dream; come on Duma ordered "heart attack" or "car wreck".... China is waiting patiently to see what the West actually does, so the game is bigger than just Ukraine. Doing nothing proves there are no consequences to a land grab, pushing back means your Navy (and what else?) will take a big hit. Given Vlad's proclivity for permanently silencing folks that don't play along, it's unlikely he'll get any internal pushback.
And then you have ex-POTUS #45, Orange Julius and some Alt-Reich GOPers over here openly admiring the SOB on Fox Noise...Really, we need this now? Putin's not crazy, he's carefully built a nice 5th Column here. The depressing part is how many folks are knowingly playing along. POTUS #40, Ronald Reagan is hitting 3500 RPM in his grave about now. “Stupid is as stupid does” FG
R230 - not a bad plan, as most of the army is elsewhere. Kazakhstan is declining to assist Russia in the Ukraine. Xi Jinping may throw Putin under the bus to get the West to back off and get back to business as usual. Or he may make his move, because like Putin he's 70 and wants to make his mark. The next months will be "interesting".
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I think this is the perfect time for China to invade Siberia and annex it while the Russians are otherwise occupied.
I think they may be more apt to attempt to take Taiwan which will up the ante considerably in the crisis dept. There may be more surprises in store for us should that happen.
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It is all pretty predictable.
The two main priorities for any politician in any country are:
1) get re-elected
2) look after the interests of the friends in business that fund your election campaigns
In terms of issues like Taiwan or Ukraine:
1) the net effect on votes of a military involvement is negative at present in most countries
2) serious sanctions that might work will damage the businesses that donate to your campaign funds
Hence nothing more than token "serious", but actually ineffectual, sanctions will ever happen.
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Der Ottonen - There are three carrier battle groups in the Mediterranean, two in the South China Sea. If Putin steps into NATO territory (unlikely) or gets into a Naval shootout with Allied ships (possible given the close-quarters situation), it gets real immediately. Until then we watch Ukraine get ground up in real time. Vlad has implied that at least tactical weapons are on the table if anyone interferes with his Ukranian wet dream. That's "Really F'n Nuts" for Russia as a whole, but he's 70 and reconstituting the CCCP is his lifelong dream; come on Duma ordered "heart attack" or "car wreck".... China is waiting patiently to see what the West actually does, so the game is bigger than just Ukraine. Doing nothing proves there are no consequences to a land grab, pushing back means your Navy (and what else?) will take a big hit. Given Vlad's proclivity for permanently silencing folks that don't play along, it's unlikely he'll get any internal pushback.
And then you have ex-POTUS #45, Orange Julius and some Alt-Reich GOPers over here openly admiring the SOB on Fox Noise...Really, we need this now? Putin's not crazy, he's carefully built a nice 5th Column here. The depressing part is how many folks are knowingly playing along. POTUS #40, Ronald Reagan is hitting 3500 RPM in his grave about now. “Stupid is as stupid does” FG
R230 - not a bad plan, as most of the army is elsewhere. Kazakhstan is declining to assist Russia in the Ukraine. Xi Jinping may throw Putin under the bus to get the West to back off and get back to business as usual. Or he may make his move, because like Putin he's 70 and wants to make his mark. The next months will be "interesting".
Stupid are those who feed children to the wolfs.
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I don't see China trying to invade Taiwan. If they did, a lot of countries would come to Taiwan's aid, even if they don't have treaties to do so. Most first world and Southeast Asian countries need Taiwan and its electronic chip output to keep their economies going. That would be enough incentive for them to do their best to protect the island and I think China knows that. Plus, if you can believe YouTube news and analysis videos, China's military sucks and would be easy prey to the U.S. and other countries navies if they tried an amphibious landing. Apparently their army is mostly disorganized too. About all they could do would be to shoot missiles at Taiwan to destroy their cities and that sure wouldn't make taking over the island pencil-out. I think the Chinese are more interested in money and their economy than Putin, who just wants to bring back the USSR and his childhood.
My big concern is that listening to Putin's talk and seeing his actions, I really do think he is off of his rocker and might really do things like used tactical nukes if he thought it would further his ambitions. I heard one psychologist say on the local news that Putin seems to be going nuts just from looking a the way he talks to people across a 40' long table. My guess is that he is very worried about being knocked off and is taking a lot of preconditions. No doubt his buddies are a lot more interested in maintaining the status quo and their big bucks, than capturing more broken-down territory that will need a lot of money to rebuild and to be useful.
In related news: I heard a couple of days ago that Sweden and Norway (if I recall the countries correctly) are not NATO members and are now seriously considering joining that organization. Last night I also heard that both counties had sent representatives to the latest NATO conference discussing what to do next about Russia.
Is invading the Ukraine really worth stirring up a hornet's nest that will be active for very many years from now on?
One thing I can say though, is that I am really happy that Trump is not President right now. There is no telling how he would have reacted to the invasion, other than patting Putin on his back while saying how smart he is and how getting rid of democracies makes a lot of sense once you are in power. >:(
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Should you be interested in knowing more about Putin, here is a fascinating 9-minute discussion of Putin's history and why he apparently is unconcerned about the consequences of his actions. Also note the photo of him meeting with his advisors near the very end of the clip. He is talking to them from way across the room. Is the guy worried about getting Covid, or is it is something else? ??? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLnZ_rNLOU
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R230 - " One thing I can say though, is that I am really happy that Trump is not President right now. "
Ditto, in spades. We'd already be attacking Mexico and Canada if he were, his "pappy" has shown him the way. :o
It's Sweden & Finland that aren't (yet) in NATO. https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/finland-sweden-brush-off-moscows-warning-joining-nato-83126927
I disagree on Taiwan. Logistically it's tough. You are also in Chinas backyard, close to their aircover. Lots of the coastal ocean is relatively shallow, making it dicey for our subs. Their hypersonic DF17's are ship killers, and you can stage an awful lot of them on a continent. They have about 2200 combat aircraft, our two carriers there may possibly field 200. China & Taiwan are also manufacturing powerhouses, like WE were in 1950. Their product output would be very tough to replace short term. The good news is that Japan has a draft joint operation plan to cede Nansei island to the US as a base against Chinese aggression.
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/us-and-japan-plan-attack-base-on-nansei-islands-in-case-of-taiwan-contingency.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSWx-zbZFM
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-air-force-navy-combat-aircraft-catching-up-to-west-2021-12#:~:text=China's%20air%20force%20and%20navy%20now%20field%20roughly%202%2C800%20aircraft,forces%2C%22%20the%20Pentagon%20says.
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/df_17.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz-class_aircraft_carrier#:~:text=The%20carriers%20can%20accommodate%20a,regarded%20as%20a%20separate%20entity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations#:~:text=Plans%20for%20NATO%20membership%20were,fled%20Ukraine%20in%20February%202014.
Relations between Ukraine and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) started in 1992.[1] Ukraine applied to begin a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP) in 2008.[2][3] Plans for NATO membership were shelved by Ukraine following the 2010 presidential election in which Viktor Yanukovych, who preferred to keep the country non-aligned, was elected President.[4][5] Amid the Euromaidan unrest, Yanukovych fled Ukraine in February 2014.[6] The interim Yatseniuk Government which came to power initially said, with reference to the country's non-aligned status, that it had no plans to join NATO.[7] However, following the Russian military invasion in Ukraine and parliamentary elections in October 2014, the new government made joining NATO a priority.[8] On 21 February 2019, the Constitution of Ukraine was amended, the norms on the strategic course of Ukraine for membership in the European Union and NATO are enshrined in the preamble of the Basic Law, three articles and transitional provisions.[9][10]
At the June 2021 Brussels Summit, NATO leaders reiterated the decision taken at the 2008 Bucharest Summit that Ukraine would become a member of the Alliance with the Membership Action Plan (MAP) as an integral part of the process and Ukraine's right to determine its own future and foreign policy, of course without outside interference.[11] NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg also stressed that Russia will not be able to veto Ukraine's accession to NATO "as we will not return to the era of spheres of interest, when large countries decide what smaller ones should do."[12]
According to polls conducted between 2005 and 2013, Ukrainian public support of NATO membership remained low.[13][14][15][16][17][18][19] However, since the Russo-Ukrainian War and Annexation of Crimea, public support for Ukrainian membership in NATO has risen greatly. Since June 2014, polls showed that about 50% of those asked supported Ukrainian NATO membership.[20][21][22][23] Some 69% of Ukrainians want to join NATO, according to a June 2017 poll by the Democratic Initiatives Foundation, compared to 28% support in 2012 when Yanukovych was in power.[24]
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Interesting though, looks like Sweden and Finland wish to become Ukraine no. 2 & 3. Trump invading Canada? The place run buy the Schwabonian great resetears? You must be joking. They're bringing themselves to their knees, soon they'll come begging.
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The operative phrase is "Hang together or hang separately", but you'd have to have some empathy to understand that.
Finland & Sweden are likely to be on the "expedite membership" short list. Sweden is formidable, as is Finland. Both are well within missile range of Tsar Putin. They both would be an asset to NATO.
If you'd listened to Orange Julius' last Mir-a-lago rant, you'd see clearly where his "mindset" is. Canada & Mexico both have some prime "real estate" to be annexed in 45's alleged mind. I thought we kept Guantanamo for terrorists; hopefully they'll have some cells left after the shooting stops. We'll need at least 70 for the Vichy GOP members alone.
In any event, now's probably a good time to emigrate to the Rodina, Putin would welcome the support. Maybe you can get a slot on RT. The rest of us will bumble along until it gets serious, then go into panic defense mode as usual. As "serious" may very well involve some fallout this time around, I'm thinking Krasnodar (upwind, sorta) or Vladivostok (far away) might be wise.
Taking the battlefield nuclear may not appeal to Beijing, they are more long term strategic thinkers. So there's some hope there at least.
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As far as empathy goes, there are always two sides to the story.
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/02/26/the-other-side-in-ukraine/
Your empathy with the Ukrainian government is however admirable. Germany, Sweden and other EU counties displaying the utmost loyalty though and send some gifts
to Ukraina to fuel the fire.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-war-russia-germany-still-blocking-arms-supplies/
the wallenbergs of sweden sure have their pocket´s lined up as they´re likely to sell the stuff to the swedish gov. and Magdalena will in return tax some more the domestic population.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-defence-minister-look-measures-help-ukraine-2022-02-24/
...as for me I don´t look forward to migrate anywhere, unlikely that RE single would take me as far as Vladivostok. ;)
Another Joke from Swedotopia, you got to wonder how strong the drugs they make in that AstraZaneca are; Quote: Russia can be stopped with a financial nuclear bomb.
https://www.aftonbladet.se/minekonomi/a/Qy2paV/swift-ryssland-kan-stoppas-med-finansiell-atombomb
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Considering Finland's history with Russia, I would have thought they would have already been a member of NATO. ???
When looking at an untitled map of NATO members it looked like Austria was surrounded by NATO but not in the organization. If that is the case, what is going on with that country? Too cheap and feeling protected by the other members that surround them, on the theory that Russia would have to get through NATO to get to them? ::)
In other news, a couple of hours ago I heard on CBS that Germany has had a change of heart and plans to send weapons to Ukraine to help them fight the Czar. Better late than never I guess. i figure the Putin will be cutting off their gas during the next cold storm. :o
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Considering Finland's history with Russia, I would have thought they would have already been a member of NATO. ???
When looking at an untitled map of NATO members it looked like Austria was surrounded by NATO but not in the organization. If that is the case, what is going on with that country? Too cheap and feeling protected by the other members that surround them, on the theory that Russia would have to get through NATO to get to them? ::)
In other news, a couple of hours ago I heard on CBS that Germany has had a change of heart and plans to send weapons to Ukraine to help them fight the Czar. Better late than never I guess. i figure the Putin will be cutting off their gas during the next cold storm. :o
...that might be the oportunity Trump is waiting for, to ship LNG to Europe. ;)
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You are doing a great job for the Rodina, tovarisch.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/20/world/europe/-ukraine-russia-putin-invasion.html
In Avdiivka, a volunteer unit of Ukraine’s ultranationalist Right Sector keeps a pet wolf in a cage outside the commander’s office. The commander, Dmytro Kotsyubaylo — his nom de guerre is Da Vinci — jokes that the fighters feed it the bones of Russian-speaking children, a reference to Russian state media tropes about the evils of Ukrainian nationalists.
Here's the quote from your Russian PR website:
A few months ago, Zelensky, who is now the pro-Western president of Ukraine, honored and recognized a famous terrorist / fascist as a Ukrainian hero.Dmytro Kotsyubaylo is a member of the right-wing sector and the goal of his life, which he says himself is to kill as many Russians as possible.
In several interviews, he has said openly that his caged pet wolf he feeds with bones from Russian-speaking children.
You are the best pro-Russia 5th Columnist here. You can't possibly believe all this kak you post. Or maybe you just look for & randomly post things that strike your misanthropic funny bone as a bid for attention. Or maybe you are a "полезный идиот", if so I hope you are well paid, I'm sure "Дональд Трамп" was/is. Ukrainians are being bombed & shelled and blown to gobbets of quivering meat by Russian weapons on Ukrainian soil and you are knowingly posting this readily disprovable pro-Russian propaganda. Do the research or knock it off.
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Today the news reported that Putin says that if Sweden and Finland join NATO he is going to be really pissed. ::)
My guess is that the two countries right now don't care if he gets pissed or not. ;)
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@ #883: "...that might be the oportunity Trump is waiting for, to ship LNG to Europe."
The only thing Orange Julius will ship is stolen Top-Secret Classified documents back to the National Archives. If we're lucky, we'll get to ship him off to Leavenworth...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/02/national-archives-confirms-trump-classified-documents.html
This project may get dramatically sped up.
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/plans-construction-first-german-lng-terminal-plagued-delays-and-uncertainty
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Interesting though, looks like Sweden and Finland wish to become Ukraine no. 2 & 3. Trump invading Canada? The place run buy the Schwabonian great resetears? You must be joking. They're bringing themselves to their knees, soon they'll come begging.
The Russians have tried invading Finland before, it did not go overly well for them. They gained a tiny bit of territory at a massive cost. Look up the Winter War and the Continuation War.
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The Russians have tried invading Finland before, it did not go overly well for them. They gained a tiny bit of territory at a massive cost. Look up the Winter War and the Continuation War.
It's sure just their wet dream to be invaded, unfortunately for them the flood of rich chinese investors to rip off and shoot in the back is not materialising. They are definitely masters at it, shooting in the back from long distance and hiding, it's got a bit of tradition.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
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It's sure just their wet dream to be invaded, unfortunately for them the flood of rich chinese investors to rip off and shoot in the back is not materialising. They are definitely masters at it, shooting in the back from long distance and hiding, it's got a bit of tradition.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
To me sniping while not the most honorable aspect of warfare is OK when it comes to repelling and unwanted invader from my homeland. Burning them alive with molotov cocktails would not bring a tear to my eye either. Ever been in a street fight when you were younger? The guy who played by the Marquis of Queensbury rules usually ended up on his ass while the guy who started it with a sucker punch and then kicked him in the knee won. When your back's to the wall you do what you have to.
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The excuse of being under attack in order to justify stealing other peoples property doesn't pull it anymore. You would need to be an idiot to believe there is something to get out of Sweden other than bullshit and more bullshit.
A big mistake Putin went to Ukraine IMO, should have let them rotting in their own garage.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-step-up-plans-cut-dependence-russia-gas-2022-02-27/
Scholz though appears to be in slight panic mode.
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There was that black solid stuff they used to dig out of the ground and burn in power plants, you could make gas or even gasoline from it, run locomotives on it, what was it called, again?
Hmm, all those extra LNG Carriers, hmm, not tempting targets, are they?
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From your 27 Feb Reuters post: " Germany will make good on plans to build two liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminals and up its natural gas reserves to cut its dependence on Russian gas after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on Sunday. "
Doesn't sound like panic to me, just prudence. Locking into a single primary energy source that you don't control is foolish. As I pointed out before, LNG was already on the table.
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/plans-construction-first-german-lng-terminal-plagued-delays-and-uncertainty
" A spokesperson for German LNG Terminal said the Covid-19 pandemic had made it “more difficult than ever to make reliable statements on the exact timing of the project.” As well as delays with the permit, potential lawsuits from environmental NGOs over safety concerns could also slow down the construction process. The terminal, which is supported by gas grid operator Gasunie and Oiltanking GmbH, a subsidiary of the Hamburg-based Marquard & Bahls AG, has promised to help Germany decrease its reliance on Russian gas, as LNG can be delivered by ship from countries including the U.S.
Germany has a well-developed natural gas pipeline grid, but so far it does not have its own import terminal for liquefied natural gas. Other projects like Uniper's LNG plans for Wilhelmshaven have been dropped due to lacking interest in the LNG sector in terms of booking large, long-term capacities for LNG regasification in Germany. High gas prices and a range of political and energy strategy concerns like the reliance on Russian supply could make more autonomy in the gas sector attractive for Germany. "
As AdrianII points out, coal gasification is eminently doable, but building such a process facility takes time. These facilities also make great targets for saboteurs or missiles, just like any other energy resource. In "peaceful times" they add economic incentive to suppliers to keep prices reasonable. I'll bet the delays and hand-wringing of the new LNG depot stop now, after this demo by Vlad the Assailer.
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It must be the result of all that H2. Why a pipeline when you can ship LNG tree times around the world on a tanker before you push it in the grid. Why LNG at all when you can use H2 at ten times the cost. Why riding a RE when you could ride Hoss-boss. Why working one hour when you coud work 8 hours with the same result.
A third or fourth pipeline would still be an better idea, besides of that the amount of fart gas they make already locally, i couldn't care less.
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That's a lot of effort & gibberish for someone that " couldn't care less ".
Sounds like we skewered some of your favorite sacred cows and you don't want to let go of some comfortable assumptions.
Tech constantly changes, economic drivers change, it's easy to get locked into a particular mindset.
Value is relative. If you need something in particular to stay alive, it becomes more valuable. If it's just recreational, oh well...
A week ago the average Ukrainian had no need for a Kalashnikov and 5 boxes or ammo, now they do.
If the Duma wake up and figure out that Putin's wet dream may get part of Moscow vaporized and they could be looking at 50 years worth of reparation payments, maybe things can change.
As you pointed out earlier, what is happening now is entirely stupid & avoidable.
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Ah what you're not saying, the duma have something to focus on and demonstrate against and won't come to tell me what to do. Putin is doing me a favour. Let's see how it works out when the smarties in Sweden join that Nato.
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The "smarties" in Finland and Sweden want to join NATO post haste. When Putin casually starts talking about using nuclear weapons as a response to a conventional weapons fueled guerilla war, or simply from being thwarted in enacting his dream, that means you are either not serious or are a psychopath. Trump is a dysfunctional psychopath, that's why he runs off at the mouth like he does. Putin is demonstrably a functional & clever psychopath. Hopefully the entire management apparatus of Russia isn't psychopathic, or you'd best be getting on that Brazilian flight very soon. If they are sane, they won't let an egomaniac drag them into a catastrophe. Russia has historically been very good at initiating "premature retirement" to folks that threaten the survival of the Rodina.
"Let's see how it works out when the smarties in Sweden join that Nato." The good news for Sweden & Finland is that they are largely upwind...
It all depends on who is in control in Russia and how invested they actually are in reconstituting the CCCP. Unless you want to follow in the footsteps of Harry R. Truman of Mt. St. Helens fame and watch the glowing cloud from your rooftop in Deutschland, maybe better to get the daily news from Rio than sit around hoping that common sense breaks out. Putin planned this move for over ten years. He may not back off gracefully. The Duma may do nothing and just allow this train wreck to occur. If the shit goes down, Russian survivors will treat Vlad & his family like Nicolae Ceaușescu was treated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceaușescu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_R._Truman
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https://youtu.be/-Zj50DmBFp0?t=334 (https://youtu.be/-Zj50DmBFp0?t=334)
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The "smarties" in Finland and Sweden want to join NATO post haste. When Putin casually starts talking about using nuclear weapons as a response to a conventional weapons fueled guerilla war, or simply from being thwarted in enacting his dream, that means you are either not serious or are a psychopath. Trump is a dysfunctional psychopath, that's why he runs off at the mouth like he does. Putin is demonstrably a functional & clever psychopath. Hopefully the entire management apparatus of Russia isn't psychopathic, or you'd best be getting on that Brazilian flight very soon. If they are sane, they won't let an egomaniac drag them into a catastrophe. Russia has historically been very good at initiating "premature retirement" to folks that threaten the survival of the Rodina.
"Let's see how it works out when the smarties in Sweden join that Nato." The good news for Sweden & Finland is that they are largely upwind...
It all depends on who is in control in Russia and how invested they actually are in reconstituting the CCCP. Unless you want to follow in the footsteps of Harry R. Truman of Mt. St. Helens fame and watch the glowing cloud from your rooftop in Deutschland, maybe better to get the daily news from Rio than sit around hoping that common sense breaks out. Putin planned this move for over ten years. He may not back off gracefully. The Duma may do nothing and just allow this train wreck to occur. If the shit goes down, Russian survivors will treat Vlad & his family like Nicolae Ceaușescu was treated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceaușescu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_R._Truman
My vote is for Putin being a dangerous psychopath. BTW, he sure loves that big two-person table to keep his distance from anyone that he talks to. Being ex-KGB I am sure he knows very well about dictator "retirements" and has no intention having that happen to him. But if he did have to retire, I would like to see him head for North Korea and play basketball with Kim. Two short guys on a big court. I bet they would have to drop the hoop a couple of feet to make the game more fun. ;)
Trump is just a pathological liar and a big blowhard. It is about time for him to retire to North Korea, too.
I just heard on the news that the Ukraine and Russia ceasefire talks wrapped up quickly. My guess is that the Russians didn't appreciate the Ukrainian offer for the Russians to vacate their all of their country, including Crimea and pay reparations. Putin has gotten himself into a quagmire and has no idea how to get out of it other than threatening to play his atomic bomb card. :o
Back to news from California for a second: It was reported this morning that Caltrans (the state's DOT) says that they plan to eliminate all traffic deaths on the state's highways by 2050. The only way they are going to do that is to eliminate the human element. Perhaps they plan to replace human drivers with crash dummies. ::)
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I think we need to crowdsource a one way ticket to Pyongyang for these two worthies. They could ride Kim's special Nuke-Pruf train (No-Bullets train?) to Beijing to visit Zaddy Xi. I'm in for $100 anytime. Let's charter an Airbus A380 and get them all in one swell foop. We could have used the Antonov AN-225 but the dumbass Russian army just blew it up. That deserves an ass-whuppin' right there.
https://www.newsweek.com/antonov-225-mriya-biggest-largest-plane-world-russia-destroyed-ukraine-1683161
The "Zero Accident" line of kak just means someone is playing politics. My company did that, it was a real dog & pony show. Just heart attacks, seizures, random vehicle mechanical & electrical failures, all of these assure some rate of kill on public roads. Raising the driving licensing standard to include medical certification & actual competency tests would prove to be wildly unpopular. It's just noise.
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More good news for the "Left Coast"... maybe the ship repair business in San Diego/San Pedro will really pick up soon? :o
It's never good to have Navy ships playing tag with PRC warships. But hey - what could go wrong?
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/china-launches-military-drill-in-south-china-sea/2516923
China launches military drill in South China Sea: 27 Feb 2022
3-day exercise starts a day after US warship sailed through Taiwan Strait
Amid Russia’s ongoing intervention in Ukraine, China has decided to hold military exercises in the South China Sea starting Sunday. The three-day drill will end on Tuesday, according to state-run daily Global Times.
China’s Maritime Safety Administration said the exercises will be held in a radius of six nautical miles in the South China Sea.
The military drill was launched a day after a US warship sailed through the Taiwan Strait, triggering intense air activity as eight Chinese jets entered what self-ruled Taiwan calls its air defense identification zone (ADIZ).
Beijing slammed the US destroyer’s passage as a “hypocritical, futile and provocative action,” saying it deployed its “forces to track and monitor” the warship’s movements.
Two more Chinese jets crossed into Taiwan’s ADIZ on Sunday, the Taiwanese Defense Ministry said.
As the world focuses on Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine, observers are also closely watching China’s moves regarding Taiwan, which it claims as a “breakaway province.”
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BTW. apparently the 6am CBS national radio news jumped the gun this morning. The Ukraine/Russia ceasefire conference did not collapse, but is still going on with a statement about some areas of agreement during the talks. Hopefully, the talks can turn out to everyone's satisfaction, but I sure wouldn't put any money on that horse. :(
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLSGhsgm/
:o ::)
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Too bad certain current & former world leaders can't see the absurdity of their own behaviour. Looks like Belarus toady Lukashenko is shilling for his Massa'. Apparently the lethality of the modern infantryman on the battlefield is for some reason a shock to the "Little Tsar", so he's looking for a compliant, disposable ally. Shoulder fired tank & aircraft killing missiles raise the cost of doing business and don't require Ukrainian aircover.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/28/politics/belarus-ukrainian-invasion-american-embassy-suspended/index.html
Rowan Atkinson in the "Blackadder" series was a riot!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackadder
Blackadder is a series of four period British sitcoms, plus several one-off instalments, which originally aired on BBC One from 1983 to 1989. All television episodes starred Rowan Atkinson as the antihero Edmund Blackadder and Tony Robinson as Blackadder's dogsbody, Baldrick. Each series was set in a different historical period, with the two protagonists accompanied by different characters, though several reappear in one series or another, e.g., Melchett (Stephen Fry) and Lord Flashheart (Rik Mayall).
The first series, The Black Adder, was written by Richard Curtis and Rowan Atkinson, while subsequent series were written by Curtis and Ben Elton. The shows were produced by John Lloyd. In 2000, the fourth series, Blackadder Goes Forth, ranked at 16 in the 100 Greatest British Television Programmes, a list created by the British Film Institute. In a 2001 poll by Channel 4, Edmund Blackadder was ranked third on their list of the 100 Greatest TV Characters.[1] In the 2004 TV poll to find Britain's Best Sitcom, Blackadder was voted the second-best British sitcom of all time, topped by Only Fools and Horses. It was also ranked as the 9th-best TV show of all time by Empire magazine.[2]
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It is interesting to look at all the competing stories about the "Ghost of Kyiv" . Some claiming that he is real and now has 16 kills. Others claiming he was real but was shot down after 6 kills on day 1. Another lot claiming the whole thing is fake. Much of the alleged footage is from DCS. At least 4 different people have been named as the "real" Ghost of Kyiv. Some stories claim he flies a Mig29 (very unlikely) others a Su27 Flanker (possible).
Here is a good overview of the fast evolving myth from a couple of American fast jet pilots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Hq_EPXeVw
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It seems like the Russians would just have to own the airspace above Ukraine. They have lots of aircraft and arguably superb air defenses. We've seen the blown-up 1950's looking Ukrainian radar trucks, we've read about the Ukranian airfields being destroyed. I get it that a high hour pilot could outfox some newbies, like some of our Air National Guard folks with literally tens of thousands of flight hours did in Iraq. It's early days, the "fog of war" is thick. I don't know where these Ukrainian fighter jets could possibly be flying from and I have not seen any "stats" from the battlefield other than claims of some Ukrainian civilian and Russian military casualties. Ukraine is about 500 x 800 miles, the Russians have perfectly good reconnaissance satellites, they have been surveilling for at least 10 years. There shouldn't be too many secrets on the ground for them. The venerable Sukhoi Su-35 has a combat range of about 900 miles and can hit 1,500 MPH, the Russians are parked around 3 sides of Ukraine, I'm not seeing how there's any place in Ukraine that's more than about 10-15 minutes away for them. They have HARM air defense missiles, the Kh-58, and any suitable Ukrainian airbase would have to have radar. This isn't 1915, they aren't landing in a circular RAF grass airfield. And we haven't even talked about ballistic missiles.
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-ukraines-ghost-of-kyiv-fighter-pilot/a-60951825
The news is reporting inbound Russian convoys 40 miles long. You don't do that unless you have air superiority, it's just too tempting a target. During Gulf 1 the Iraqi army got crucified that way.
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-28-22/h_4f98d483d84187da1a733f76c112291f
It seems likely that by staying on the ground as infantry the Ukrainians are largely "invisible" and don't need aircover. The lethal crop of "shoulder fired missiles" seems to be a big battlefield equalizer. Drones are another cheap force multiplier that seem to be hard to defend against. Welcome to the future...
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-02-26/card/ukraine-says-it-uses-turkish-made-drones-to-hit-russian-targets-DrigGO7vkGfDzbBuncnA
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The Mysterious Case of the Missing Russian Air Force, 28 February 2022
https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force
On the fifth day of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, one of many unanswered questions is why Russia has launched a military campaign at huge cost with maximalist objectives, and then declined to use the vast majority of its fixed wing combat aircraft.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine began as expected in the early hours of 24 February: a large salvo of cruise and ballistic missiles destroyed the main ground-based early warning radars throughout Ukraine. The result was to effectively blind the Ukrainian Air Force (UkrAF), and in some cases also hinder aircraft movements by cratering runways and taxiways at its major airbases. Strikes also hit several Ukrainian long-range S-300P surface-to-air missile (SAM) batteries, which had limited mobility due to a long-term lack of spares. These initial stand-off strikes followed the pattern seen in many US-led interventions since the end of the Cold War. The logical and widely anticipated next step, as seen in almost every military conflict since 1938, would have been for the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) to mount large-scale strike operations to destroy the UkrAF. With its early warning chain blinded and some runways cratered, the UkrAF was left vulnerable to raids by strike aircraft like the Su-34 with guided munitions, or even multirole Su-30 fighters with predominantly unguided munitions. If present in significant numbers, escorting Su-35 and Su-30 fighters would have overwhelmed the Ukrainian fighters, even if they did manage to take off for sorties conducted at very low altitudes with limited situational awareness. This did not happen.
Instead, the roughly 300 modern combat aircraft which the VKS have positioned within easy range of the main contact zones in northern, eastern and southern Ukraine appear to have largely stayed on the ground throughout the first four days of fighting. This has allowed the UkrAF to continue flying low-level defensive counter-air (DCA) and ground-attack sorties, and these appear to have had some successes in intercepting Russian attack helicopters. The fact that Ukrainian troops and civilians have been able to see (and rapidly mythologise) their own pilots continuing to fly sorties above major cities has also been a major morale-boosting factor that has helped solidify the extraordinary spirit of unified resistance shown across the country. The lack of Russian fixed wing fighter and strike aircraft sorties has also allowed Ukrainian SAM operators and troops with MANPADS such as the US-made Stinger missile to engage Russian helicopter gunships and transports with significantly less risk of immediate retaliation. This in turn has contributed to the significant lack of success and heavy losses suffered during Russian air assault operations.
Furthermore, the almost total lack of Russian offensive counter-air (OCA) sweeps has been coupled with very poor coordination between Russian ground forces’ movements and their own medium- and short-ranged air defence systems. Multiple Russian columns have been sent forward beyond the reach of their own air defence cover, and in others cases accompanying SAM batteries have been caught inactive in military traffic jams without making any apparent effort to provide situational awareness and defence against Ukrainian air assets. This has allowed the surviving Ukrainian Bayraktar TB-2 armed UAVs to operate with considerable effectiveness in some areas, inflicting significant losses on Russian vehicle columns.
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That is interesting news. I can't think of any reason that the Russians are not flying their aircraft over Ukraine, unless their air force is not all that effective and they are worried about loosing planes that they can't afford to loose. Or maybe they are short on jet fuel. ???
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We know that a lot of man-carryable missiles have made their way into Ukraine. Possibly the Ukrainian Army is well outfitted with Stingers, or similar, and there are only about 300 Russian fighter jets in theater. Trading an $80,000,000 Sukhoi Su-35 fighter for a $40,000 missile may not be a good bargain or tactically necessary at this time.
Ukraine is issuing war bonds, $270M sold since Friday last week. That'll buy some time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_system
Wikipaedia - " Man-portable air-defense systems (MANPADS or MPADS) are portable surface-to-air missiles. They are guided weapons and are a threat to low-flying aircraft, especially helicopters.
Laser guided MANPADS use beam-riding guidance where a sensor in the missile's tail detects the emissions from a laser on the launcher and attempts to steer the missile to fly at the exact middle of the beam, or between two beams. Missiles such as Sweden's RBS-70 and Britain's Starstreak can engage aircraft from all angles and only require the operator to continuously track the target using a joystick to keep the laser aim point on the target: the latest version of RBS 70 features a tracking engagement mode where fine aim adjustments of the laser emitter are handled by the launcher itself, with the user only having to make coarse aim corrections. Because there are no radio data links from the ground to the missile, the missile cannot be effectively jammed after it is launched. Even though beam-riding missiles require relatively extensive training and skill to operate, many experts consider these missiles particularly menacing due to the missiles' resistance to most conventional countermeasures in use today.[13][14]
https://www.army-technology.com/features/man-portable-air-defence-systems/
4. FIM-92 Stinger
The top man-portable air-defence systems (MANPADS)
FIM-92 Stinger is in service with more than 18 countries. Image courtesy of Christopher O’Quin, U.S. Marine Corps.
The FIM-92 Stinger MANPADS is a fire-and-forget missile manufactured by Raytheon Missile Systems. It entered service with the US Army in 1981 and is a successor to the FIM-43 Redeye MANPADS. The missile is currently in service with more than 18 countries and the four US armed forces. It has scored more than 270 hits against fixed and rotary-wing aircraft.
The Stinger system weighs 15.2kg and integrates a sight assembly, a grip stock assembly, a battery coolant unit and a missile round. It employs the latest Stinger-RMP missile equipped with a passive infrared seeker. It carries a 3kg penetrating hit-to-kill warhead equipped with a proximity fuse.
The missile travels at a speed of 750m/s (1670 MPH) and can engage targets at altitudes up to 3,500m and within the range of 8,000m. It offers high kill rate against fast-moving aerial targets, including low-level fixed and rotary-wing aircraft, rotorcraft, and cruise missiles.
Ukraine Raises Equivalent of $277 Million From Sale of War Bonds
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-01/ukraine-sale-of-war-bonds-raises-more-than-8-billion-hryvnia
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-03-01/card/ukraine-issues-war-bonds-raising-270-million-Uh8evCNMsi6bne9QUJe6
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What ever the reason keeping those planes out of the sky I won't look a gift horse in the mouth. It also sounds like lots of tactical weapons are pouring into the Ukraine now from sympathetic countries giving David a lot more ability to slay Goliath.
Putin's looking more and more like a bumbler to his oligarch buddies as this goes on. A lot of Russian citizens oppose the war. There's a chance someone will be slipping him a polonium cocktail to get him out of the way and pull us all back from the brink of Armageddon.
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You think there is a way of winning against Russia. After decades of bullying it and isolating it? When it has nothing more to loose?
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Another possible reason for the Russian AF to be taking a nap is that maybe they all have a case of the Covid picked up at that last big "super-spreader" vodka party. ???
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Now THIS is some real Stockholm Syndrome evinced here.
"You think there is a way of winning against Russia. After decades of bullying it and isolating it? When it has nothing more to loose?"
Well, the meat puppets on the receiving end have a lot to lose. If there's any truth at all to the Russian conscripts abandoning vehicles and the anti-war demonstrations in Moscow, the average citizen isn't in lockstep with Vlad the Assailer. This is largely Putins wet dream, not his countrymens. Most of them weren't even alive for the Cold War, they just want to live their lives.
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Stockholm syndrom? Interesting times, maybe a reactivation of a russian nuclear base on Cuba is what you wish for?
How exactly would the average Russians life improve in Vlad surrenders the country and its resources? Would you fly over with bombers and drop chocolate bars from the sky?
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How is this even an issue? Stopping an unwarranted aggression act is straightforward, you go home. "Surrendering the country" is some stupidity you brought into the discussion, not pertinent to the discussion. The Ukrainians just wanted to be left alone. If the Donbas separatists were to quit being funded by Russia, that would be a nice touch as well. The "average Russian life" improves by not having a nuclear sword dangling over their head for no good reason and they get to rejoin the world markets, rescuing their economy from collapse. The status of Russia being in the lucrative position as the primary energy supplier to Europe has now taken a huge step backwards, another blow to the average Russians welfare and income.
80 miles offshore Cuba becoming a nuclear base again is as probable as Ukraine becoming a nuclear base. In a world full of first-strike survivable ballistic missile submarines and ground penetratingly nuclear munitions, staging nuclear weapons on dirt is passé.
Now Cuba has real possibilities for you. Great medical care, it's far from Sweden, sunny, and most of its vehicles have pushrods. It's government is very "command & control", just the way you apparently like it, no messy voting by random crazies just wanting to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
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If I didn´t know who´s going to win I would go and vote. I don´t need to move to Cuba, because Cuba is comming to the western world. If I´ve had to see one more swedish f!"ck in a 100k$ car I would dig it 6 feet under ground anyway.
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Things are changing. If you want a voice, vote when able. Not voting means you automatically assent to whatever the outcome, doing nothing is also a choice. Entertaining yourself cultivating cynicism & nihilism has no physical benefit to you. If you'd happened to be living in Ukraine 5 days ago your technical prowess would be very welcome, the pro-Russia viewpoint and cultivated cynicism not so much. Putin's nukes are very close to you in missile flight time and he is intent on "Legacy Building", a bad combo. Unless you are committed to aiding Germany to the same degree the Ukrainians are the Ukraine, Brazil or Cuba are both good options.
The Primary Rule of Thumb for Nuclear Energy: "Time, distance & shielding resolve a multitude of ills".
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/europe/ukraine-putin-europe-security-analysis-intl-cmd/index.html
It isn't just Putin's aggression that has woken Europe from its slumber. The diplomat explained that in conversations with counterparts, officials had taken note of the lead that US President Joe Biden has taken in coordinating the West's response.
"A big fear in European capitals: what would have happened if Biden wasn't in the White House at the moment? No one seriously believes that Trump would have handled this well and we may have him or someone like him back in a couple of years. Effectively, that means we have to assume we are alone," the diplomat added.
Perhaps the most significant and symbolic shift in the past few days came from Germany. The EU's wealthiest and arguably most powerful member state announced it will more than double its defense spending, with its 2022 military budget expected to stand at $100 billion.
Not long ago, most German politicians -- and a number of politicians across Europe -- were uncomfortable with the idea of the country having a large military presence for obvious historical reasons.
Again, the situation in Ukraine has changed everything.
"Based on the conversations of the last few days, most European leaders now seem comfortable with a massive German army if its anchored firmly within the EU," the diplomat says, pointing out that only a few months ago even putting the words EU and army in the same sentence would spark outrage in most of Europe's capitals.
If Ukraine does fall, then a belligerent Russia will have hugely expanded its land border with the European Union.
But were it to hold firm and force Russian troops out, then a wounded and unpredictable Putin sits and broods in the Kremlin. And as former White House adviser on Russia, Fiona Hill, told Politico this week, when asked if she thought Putin would use his nuclear weapons, in her assessment, "Yes, he would."
A senior Brussels official told CNN that even now, its member states are finding Russian influence too close for comfort. "Finland shares a huge land border with Russia. Romanian fleets share the Black Sea with the Russian navy. After months of people saying he wouldn't go into Ukraine, he did. This is a genuinely very scary situation."
The official explained that over the course of the past week, "decisions that would have taken years took a matter of days because Europe has been changed forever. We simply don't have time for inaction and complacency any more."
Another notable shift that has taken place behind the scenes in Brussels is the attitude of the EU's so-called "neutral nations" (Austria, Ireland, Finland and Sweden). These are countries that consider themselves to be militarily non-allied, even if they are politically allied with the EU and its global allies.
"I think we now understand that making a point of being neutral and not a part of NATO doesn't mean you are safe," a senior EU adviser in foreign affairs told CNN.
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If you would DO as much as you squeek your bullet would be doing atleast 130mph reliably.
Another joke of the day, the EU wants an German army they can control. Well why not taking all the occupants of Brussels, Berlin and Stockholm? Very honorable and EU loyal folks.
The EU just outlawed RT and Sputnik, now these poor bastards want to control what everyone reads, no. 1 reason not to trust that organisation. It is self deconstructing.
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If you'd stay on your meds these discussions would be more objective fact based & less random Fox Noise based paranoia.
Does it even bother you that you perceive the loss of known Russian propaganda organs like RT & Sputnik as a loss of a credible news source? Aljazeera I could possibly see, they don't particularly have a dog in the hunt, but RT & Sputnik at this particular moment in time?
By the way - how's your 130 MPH/200 KPH pushrod single faring? Got those "V" rated skins on yet? Nitrous system set up? Catch pan wired up beneath for the piston & rod? The Autobahn is calling...wait for the big downhill. 8)
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Aljazeera I could possibly see, they don't particularly have a dog in the hunt, but RT & Sputnik at this particular moment in time?
Aljazeera can be biased with regard to Israel and the Middle East. For example with the Ukraine Crisis they have made a serious point about how countries that closed their borders to Syrian refugees are happily accepting Ukrainian refugees in the tens of thousands.
However on anything unrelated to the Middle East, Aljazeera English is one of the least biased news feeds out there.
With regard to Germany, in the current crisis I have found the German public broadcaster "DW" 24/7 live feed quite informative.
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It is self deconstructing.
I am not 100% sure you actually mean deconstruction. Particularly as according to Derrida, if I read it correctly, deconstruction is inherent in everything from the start. Are you actually intending to reference Derrida and his work on truth and meaning in language or the more general modern reference to a sort of nihilism and trivialised exaggerated skepticism? Or something else altogether ?
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GlennF @ 921: Derrida - I stand gobsmacked. You won't get educational tidbits like this on many forums. Well done Sir!
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By the way - how's your 130 MPH/200 KPH pushrod single faring? Got those "V" rated skins on yet? Nitrous system set up? Catch pan wired up beneath for the piston & rod? The Autobahn is calling...wait for the big downhill. 8)
;D ...don't provoke me, there is a risk i may succeed to make that thing go 130mph without a piston & rod catch pan. Probably sooner than you may see a fully charged up Tesla in 3 minutes.
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Aljazeera can be biased with regard to Israel and the Middle East. For example with the Ukraine Crisis they have made a serious point about how countries that closed their borders to Syrian refugees are happily accepting Ukrainian refugees in the tens of thousands.
However on anything unrelated to the Middle East, Aljazeera English is one of the least biased news feeds out there.
With regard to Germany, in the current crisis I have found the German public broadcaster "DW" 24/7 live feed quite informative.
Germany tried to outlaw RT last year which has been countered by the outlawing of DW in Moskva. That lead to dropping of the outlawing measures. As usual it takes the EU to do things "right" and now they want an german army they can control? Maybe equipped with picks and forks.
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Lindsey's not wrong, but openly calling for leadership assassination makes the ruling classes nervous. Everyone can be "got", a factoid not lost on even Mensa candidate Marjorie Taylor Green. It would certainly save a lot of treasure & blood though...
https://nypost.com/2022/03/04/lindsey-graham-doubles-down-on-vladimir-putin-assassination-call/
When asked to respond to Antonov’s statement, Graham answered: “Mr. Ambassador, you’re supporting a war criminal in Putin. Your country’s engaged in war crimes in front of the entire world. You’re bombing innocent civilians using banned munitions. You have a record, your country does, of dropping barrel bombs in Syria. You’ve destroyed Chechnya by massive war crimes. You’re committing war crimes in the Ukraine. You need to apologize to the world for how Putin has stolen your country blind, how they’re dismembering a neighboring democracy called the Ukraine, how they’re killing innocent men, women and children … You, my friend, are the one who needs to apologize and when it comes to Putin, he should go to jail.”
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Aside from assassination being one of the crimes Putin himself is accused of there are two issues here:
- a failed assassination may well strengthen his position among the Russian people who already seem to perceive themselves as under threat
- there is no guarantee the replacement will not be similar or even potentially worse
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Just for the record on the censorship front, Comcast/Xfinity turned off their Russian language programming package last week with a terse "This programming no longer available" displayed on the screen with no other explanation. That’s a bit heavy-handed, if you ask me, and we'll miss that oddball Russian take on The Dating Game most of all. Clearly though, taking that away is for our own good, and will show them...There'll be no vicariously viewed nookie for Boris or Natasha! But what really burns my blini or "scorches my borscht" is that they appeared to be perfectly happy to continue charging for that package unless one called up and went several rounds with Rajneesh (alias "Roger" the Customer Service Death Squid) in order to cancel the package and get the charge pro-rated.
You can feel just like you were there with me too by putting this on "loop" until you too seriously consider that Tri-State Killing Spree: https://youtu.be/w-SIManm_Qo
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Assassination is frowned upon because there really isn't any way to stop it, ultimately. Anyone can be "got". It leads to "tit for tat" selective picking off of leaders, a real problem if you were a wealthy leader (an awful lot of Congress) and hoping to later on enjoy your ill-gotten gains. Assassination doesn't always stay contained either, it can really ignite a brushfire. Can we say WW1?
That didn't stop the CIA of yesteryear from "neutralizing" Middle-East & South American leaders, then doing exactly what Putin plans to do. But it ultimately hasn't worked out so well. South America is distrustful of the US, and Middle Eastern leadership certainly didn't improve.
One big issue here is that the "great powers" have a toybox full of new hardware they are dying to try out. Maybe Putin just wants to "dynamically test" the US Navy's energy weapons, rail guns, supercavitating torpedos, THAAD & Aegis capability in a disposable (to Russia...) 3rd party environment. Or more chillingly, he actually believes he can win a "limited" thermonuclear war. THAT would be very hard on Ukraine & any carrier groups in the Aegean Sea.
(05 Mar 2022)
https://d1softballnews.com/us-aircraft-carrier-prepares-for-possible-escalation-of-tensions/
(04 Mar 2022)
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/03/french-aircraft-carrier-now-supporting-nato/
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I'm sure they have a list of targets. Interesting times? Bring back boredom, it's underrated.
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Stryi air base exists still, very near the Polish border. Putin has left it alone. Apparently he wants us to initiate any actual war declaration & is too chickenshit to bomb Stryl out of existence so close to NATO turf. A "trade" is in the works, where Ukraine gets maybe 30 of Poland's old MiG29's and Poland gets a smokin' deal on some new F16's. Ukraine thus has access to aircraft & they are getting local airspace intel via our fighter sortees over NATO turf. That's likely why the Russian advance is slow, a MiG29 with a full weapons load can really dampen a conscripts enthusiasm for following orders he knows are bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryi_Air_Base#:~:text=Stryi%20(Ukrainian%20%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9%2C%20also%20Stryj,Aviation%20Regiment%20(179%20IAP).
https://www.airforcemag.com/us-air-force-discusses-tactics-with-ukrainian-air-force-as-russian-advance-stalls/
Earlier in the day, DOD confirmed that the air space over Ukraine remains contested with Ukrainian aircraft and air defenses still viable.
The ISR shared with the Ukrainian Air Force by the United States and NATO includes NATO Alliance Ground Surveillance (AGS) data and data gathered by AWACS in NATO eastern flank air space as well as by satellites, radar systems, and radio and communications. The data is being used to help the Ukrainian Air Force develop an air picture of what’s flying and where, the official said.
Roughly 25 KC-135 and KC-10 refuelers from the United States, Turkey, and the Netherlands are supporting the effort, the defense official confirmed.
The U.S. Air Force is also sharing sensor data picked up by some 30 American fighter jets, including F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, and F 35s, operating on air policing missions on the NATO eastern flank.
“They can see a long way into Ukraine,” the official said.
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The TV news a few minutes ago was reporting on gas prices in California and were interviewing experts on the subject. The experts were saying that our gas price has 80 cents in state and local taxes and another 29 cents of additional "fees" (a large portion of which goes to fund the state's "cap and trade" market) for a total of $1.19 per gallon in taxes. But added to that is another 30 cents for a mystery charge that no one can account for and does not show up on gas prices in other states. The claim is that the high price of gas in California is pretty much kept high by the big oil refineries and their company-owned gas stations. Surprise! ::)
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Woody Guthrie says it best:
Yes, as through this world I've wandered
I've seen lots of funny men;
Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.
https://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Pretty_Boy_Floyd.htm
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Woody Guthrie says it best:
Yes, as through this world I've wandered
I've seen lots of funny men;
Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.
https://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Pretty_Boy_Floyd.htm
Blablabla, if someone were to profiteer on my s#$it, they would get a rocket in their arse.
How great "sharing" works i don't need to see ever again. ;D
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"Blablabla, if someone were to profiteer on my s#$it, they would get a rocket in their arse."
So - you are a volunteer Freedom Fighter in the Ukraine now? Commendable! It's the only place I know that you'd be likely to possess a MANPADS. Otherwise it's just egomaniacal spew. Other than the normal self-centered rhetoric, I'm not following exactly how the phrase "How great "sharing" works i don't need to see ever again." fits in to what we were discussing, i.e. that industry tends to pad its coffers at public expense via well heeled lobbyists. However, the Ukrainians could well do with some technically savvy assistance at their airfields to maintain those MiG-29's in the pipeline. Field trip opportunity?
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220309-polish-offer-to-donate-mig-29-jets-to-ukraine-took-us-officials-by-surprise
http://saharareporters.com/2022/03/01/bulgaria-poland-slovakia-donate-70-fighter-jets-ukraine
Lots of "Fog of War" around this story...stay tuned.
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You mean the Ukrainian gob. makes gas transit to Europe through the pipeline they probably didn't build expensive? Wirering some of it onto Hunter B's account?
That's got to be sustained of course, send Greta there to teach them a lesson about sustainability.
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I think a LOT of this tiresome hyperbolic rhetoric will get shelved if P-Daddy pops a tactical over the battlefield to see if we're serious. Somehow when reality rears its ugly head the self-entertaining delusional bullshit takes a back seat.
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If that happend it would be to 99% false flag. P-Daddy likes knows his limits unlike some of our leaders and Gretas friends.
You should watch the nordics, they just love to fart in the bus and accuse someone else.
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Are those Kremlin cheques still cashing? Your rates must have necessarily gone up. I look forward to seeing you on RT.
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That's got to be sustained of course, send Greta there to teach them a lesson about sustainability.
Aside from being actually autistic, which apparently people think it is perfectly OK to make fun of, and also apparently to young to be allowed to have an opinion, she generally seems fairly decent. However what has Greta and Climate Change got to do with the Ukraine ?
Are you seriously claiming that Putin is attacking the Ukraine to save the world from a green conspiracy led by 19 year old Greta who is out for world domination?
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The joke going round is Greta is worshipping P-Daddy now. The threads of war are more effective in promoting the green bullshit tech than whatever doomsday scenarios she and her sect members potentially could come up with.
Besides of that i suffer currently an autistic period too combined with heavy symptoms of tourette syndrom. I don't need any f#$ing help. Just send me the cash that threatment woud cost. >:(
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You are the only person here entertaining themselves with Greta & Sweden related pending-war-based conspiracy theories. Actual Ukrainians are being butchered out and you are playfully conflating this with some grand design conspiracy for your own amusement. When the dust settles, I'd have to assume that folks not supporting the effort will be asked to move on. Got those Brazil or Cuba tickets ordered? Might be good to get ahead of the curve. Always a need for fresh workers in the cane fields.
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What you are not saying, why don't you move yourself to Ukraine to support the efforts?
It sure would be atleast as lucrative and entertaining as workigh with the global warming scammers, an experience you may be lacking.
Looking at the bright side, plenty of moto friendly roads around. And the ridiculous covid regs are to be dropped next month except of intensive care and elderly homes where they may make actual sense.
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"What you are not saying, why don't you move yourself to Ukraine to support the efforts?
Too old, too fat. I do however write my Congressman and I show up to vote, unlike some others. My vote is to support Ukraine in every way we can. Putin won't stop, might as well yank hard on his chain very soon at a time of our choosing. Waiting just increases the body count and emboldens his effort. Nothing will change except the start date of hostilities. We're also NOT the only Nuclear player here, France & England (and maybe more) can call bullshit on him also if he starts brandishing battlefield nukes. The Ukrainians need those Polish MiG-29s to push back effectively against Russian artillery and Russian fighter jet incursions. Ukrainian Pilots flying older donated Polish MiGs in combat sorties is no different that Ukrainian infantry using donated US, German & French MANPADS in combat. Why our government is cringing over aircraft delivery is a puzzle, just put them on a truck and drive them across the border just like everything else. I hope they get over their queasiness before the Ukraine is reduced to wheat fields & rubble.
It sure would be atleast as lucrative and entertaining as working with the global warming scammers, an experience you may be lacking." True, I AM lacking in experience working with global warming scammers. Also true because of actual empirical evidence for a warming trend, thus no scam. But please feel free to explain in detail how to privately profit from "global warming scammers", and do be specific. I'm looking forward to supplementing my Social Security check, much like you apparently do from being a Putin apologist. Sadly, the Ruble doesn't go as far as it used to, eh Comrade?
"And the ridiculous covid regs are to be dropped next month except of intensive care and elderly homes where they may make actual sense. "
It's highly probable those "ridiculous covid regs" helped get us here faster and with fewer body bags. Those regs didn't seem to have any effect on conspiracy theory though, that's alive & well. If only there was a vaccine against that we'd all be better off.
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These developments won't help any.
March 13, 2022: Russia has requested military assistance from China in Ukraine, US official says
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/13/politics/jake-sullivan-meeting-chinese-counterpart-ukraine/index.html
Russia has asked China for military assistance in Ukraine, including drones, as it continues its unprovoked invasion, a senior US official told CNN.
Potential assistance from the Chinese would be a significant development in Russia's invasion, and could upend the hold Ukrainian forces still have in the country.
When asked by CNN about the reporting of Russia's request for military aid, Liu Pengyu, spokesperson for the Chinese embassy in the US, said in a statement, "I've never heard of that."
Liu expressed concern for "the Ukraine situation" -- calling it "indeed disconcerting" -- and said China has and will continue to provide humanitarian assistance to Ukraine.
Liu said: "The high priority now is to prevent the tense situation from escalating or even getting out of control. ... China calls for exercising utmost restraint and preventing a massive humanitarian crisis."
The Russian embassy in the US did not immediately respond to CNN's request for comment.
News of Russia's request comes before White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan will meet with his Chinese counterpart, Yang Jiechi, in Rome on Monday as part of a follow-up conversation to President Joe Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping's virtual meeting last November, according to National Security Council spokesperson Emily Horne.
Sullivan told Dana Bash on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday that China providing Russia with support is a "concern."
"We also are watching closely to see the extent to which China actually does provide any form of support, material support or economic support, to Russia. It is a concern of ours. And we have communicated to Beijing that we will not stand by and allow any country to compensate Russia for its losses from the economic sanctions," Sullivan said.
Russia expanded its offensive to western Ukraine on Sunday, firing missiles near the city of Lviv and hitting a large military base close to the Polish border, reportedly killing dozens of people as the war draws closer to NATO's territory.
Local authorities say 35 people were killed and 134 injured at the military base, in what Ukraine's Minister of Defence Oleksii Reznikov described as a "terrorist attack" on peace and security "near the EU-NATO border."
US officials, including White House press secretary Jen Psaki, have been increasingly critical of Beijing's response to Russia's war in Ukraine. While Beijing has seemingly tried to strike a neutral tone on the international stage, Chinese domestic media coverage has promoted Russian disinformation campaigns and described the war as a "special military operation." Psaki also tweeted Wednesday that Beijing "has seemingly endorsed" false Russian claims that the US is developing chemical weapons in Ukraine.
"Our assessment right now is that (China is) abiding by the requirements that have been put in place, but we would continue to encourage any country to think a lot about what place they want to -- what role they want to play -- in history as we all look back," Psaki said during a news conference Wednesday.
Sullivan told Bash on Sunday that the US has made it clear to Beijing that there will "absolutely be consequences" for "large-scale" efforts to give the Kremlin a workaround to US sanctions.
"We will not allow that to go forward and allow there to be a lifeline to Russia from these economic sanctions from any country anywhere in the world," he said.
Still, Sullivan said that while the US believes "China, in fact, was aware before the invasion took place that Vladimir Putin was planning something, they may not have understood the full extent of it."
"Because it's very possible that Putin lied to them the same way that he lied to Europeans and others," Sullivan told Bash.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-701150
Russia to bring Libyan, Serbian mercenaries to Ukraine
Russia is reportedly paying foreign mercenaries a monthly salary of $300-600 to fight in Ukraine, and had approved recruitment of 16,000 Middle East volunteers.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-wagner-group-mercenaries-soldiers-b2028799.html
Guns for hire: How shadowy Wagner Group mercenaries support Russian soldiers in Ukraine conflict
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In California the Governor tossed out the idea of rebating our 51 cent gas tax for 6 months (until the election is over). But the Democratic-controlled state legislature isn't buying that idea. The gas tax goes up in July based upon inflation numbers. They say they won't give up that increase this year, either. The guy in charge of the legislature's finance committee nixed that idea too, even though the state has a $71 billion budget surplus this fiscal year. He says that they don't want to give back any money and certainly not to motorists who don't need it if they can afford to drive a car and refuse to ride public transit. Apparently they know how to spend our tax money better than the state's resident's do. >:(
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Today's California latest election year proposal in the state legislature is to give every resident in the state a $400 gift to help compensate them for the higher price of gasoline, even if they don't own a car or anything else for that matter. ::) This gift would hit the state's budget to the tune of around $9 billion. :o Easy come, easy go. ;)
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Looking like no MiG-29's for Ukraine. I guess the idea of a NATO funded sortie of 30 full weapons load MiG-29's headed to Moscow at 100 feet, Mach 2 was too unnerving for the powers that be. However, these Exocets will at least keep the Russian Navy farther offshore, that should help the coastal defense effort.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-supplying-ukraine-with-weapons-to-counter-russian-navy/
February 9, 2022:
Ukraine will receive anti-ship missiles from the UK to counter the Russian Navy in the Black and Azov Seas, Ukrainian Ambassador to the UK, ex-Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko has said in an interview with Radio Novoye Vremya.
“For the first time, our Armed Forces, in particular the Navy, will receive real weapons, missiles, which will finally allow us to oppose something to the Russians in the Black and Azov Seas”, he said.
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There seems to be a huge amount of very poor Ukrainians though escaping in their large 100k$ SUVs. Sometimes your news sources won't report.
Probably the upcomming NXT leaders and bosses to come and tell us what we do wrong and ought to do better.
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Good point. In Vietnam, it certainly wasn't helicopter loads of poor dirt farmers exiting from the rooftops in Saigon. Not surprisingly, people with more resources have more options. On the flip side, if you are a $25-a-month Russian artillery (Motorized Rifle Brigade) conscript, what makes a better target - a 1964 Lada or a 2019 Cayenne?
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There seems to be a huge amount of very poor Ukrainians though escaping in their large 100k$ SUVs. Sometimes your news sources won't report.
Probably the upcomming NXT leaders and bosses to come and tell us what we do wrong and ought to do better.
This is true, only poor people should be allowed to be refugees. People with money should stay put and throw Rolex watches at the missiles.
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This is true, only poor people should be allowed to be refugees. People with money should stay put and throw Rolex watches at the missiles.
Or we could adopt the swedish model and anyone who's a refuge gets first of all all belongings confiscated. When are the Swedes joining the nato again?
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When are the Swedes joining the nato again?
Never been part of NATO.
EU but not NATO .
Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Romania, Slovenia and the Czech Republic are all NATO members.
Neither Sweden nor Finland have ever been members. Possibly because they have both managed to stand up against Russian aggression in the past with minimal outside help.
Traditionally in Sweden the right wing parties favoured NATO membership and the left leaning including the Social Democrats and the Greens were opposed preferring neutrality.
It does seem that the current somewhat irrational behaviour of Russia dividing the world into two camps, "with us" and "against us", is nudging the left leaning parties to change their mind. If Russian is intent on forcing countries to choose sides Sweden is not likely to choose Russia.
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Never been part of NATO.
EU but not NATO .
Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Romania, Slovenia and the Czech Republic are all NATO members.
Neither Sweden nor Finland have ever been members. Possibly because they have both managed to stand up against Russian aggression in the past with minimal outside help.
Traditionally in Sweden the right wing parties favoured NATO membership and the left leaning including the Social Democrats and the Greens were opposed preferring neutrality.
It does seem that the current somewhat irrational behaviour of Russia dividing the world into two camps, "with us" and "against us", is nudging the left leaning parties to change their mind. If Russian is intent on forcing countries to choose sides Sweden is not likely to choose Russia.
But why isn't Austria part of NATO? ???
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But why isn't Austria part of NATO? ???
Neither Austria nor Australia are NATO
I was trying to list ex-iron curtain countries that are now in NATO. Not sure if I got the list 100% correct. I probably should have Poland and Hungary in the list for starters.
Austria was never an iron curtain country - it even had an electric fence separating it from Hungary back in the day.
The EU country which are NOT members of NATO are Austria, Cyprus, Ireland, Malta, Finland and Sweden. Now Ireland is most likely due to them being fiercely independent after centuries of oppression, Cyprus is complicated to say the least and the rest were probably hoping for some sort of neutrality.
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Never been part of NATO.
EU but not NATO .
Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Romania, Slovenia and the Czech Republic are all NATO members.
Neither Sweden nor Finland have ever been members. Possibly because they have both managed to stand up against Russian aggression in the past with minimal outside help.
Traditionally in Sweden the right wing parties favoured NATO membership and the left leaning including the Social Democrats and the Greens were opposed preferring neutrality.
It does seem that the current somewhat irrational behaviour of Russia dividing the world into two camps, "with us" and "against us", is nudging the left leaning parties to change their mind. If Russian is intent on forcing countries to choose sides Sweden is not likely to choose Russia.
If the Swedes join Nato their SUV drivers will be soon here to get their SUVs confiscated. And they're probably going to join since as usual they can't see past their nosy noses.
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Yes but how many of those are electric ??
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Yes but how many of those are electric ??
The hybrids will be considered tax return, electrics won't make it over the border fortunately.
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Looks like things are getting even uglier...If a cease-fire isn't declared to allow rescue of these folks that were sheltering under the theater, there will be a large uptick in public pressure to intervene.
Ukraine: Hundreds still trapped under Mariupol theater, Zelenskyy says — live updates
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-hundreds-still-trapped-under-mariupol-theater-zelenskyy-says-live-updates/a-61168458
Here is one of the new weapons Ukraine is using. First I'd heard of "loitering munitions", but it really gives the Ukrainians on the ground some leverage against the Russians. The range puts the Russian artillery under real threat and may get them to back off. These drones are really changing the game on the battlefield.
Actual Polish-surplus MiG-29 aircraft would likely be used to attack the Kremlin in Moscow, much like the Doolittle raid on Tokyo, 18 April 1942. God knows they have reason enough to do so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_Switchblade
The AeroVironment Switchblade is a miniature loitering munition designed by AeroVironment and used by several branches of the United States military. Small enough to fit in a backpack, the Switchblade launches from a tube, flies to the target area, and crashes into its target while detonating its explosive warhead. Introduced in 2011, the original Switchblade was rebranded the Switchblade 300 after the Switchblade 600 anti-armor variant was introduced in 2020.
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The trouble with the Ukrainians flying aircraft is that they need a long runway and the Russians would take care of that takeoff and landing facility in short order with cruise missiles. I think they are a lot better off with portable surface to air missiles and drones, in spite of what their president says they want.
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R230 - looks like you were operating under the same assumptions I was. In combat theater reality they can apparently use a 1 kilometer piece of pavement. Obviously more is better, but these are performance machines in every sense. A short piece of highway, a re-arming crew with a U-Haul cab-over filled with ammo & missiles and a fuel truck and you'd be back in business terrorizing underpaid Russian conscripts. I still say the main reason we're holding back is the CINC doesn't want to see a Ukrainian "pay-back" air strike directly on the Kremlin.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/mig-29-specs.htm
length of takeoff run, in meters: Without afterburner 600-700m; With afterburner 260m.
length of the landing path with a brake parachute, in meters, 600m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29
https://skybrary.aero/aircraft/mg29
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R230 - looks like you were operating under the same assumptions I was. In combat theater reality they can apparently use a 1 kilometer piece of pavement. Obviously more is better, but these are performance machines in every sense. A short piece of highway, a re-arming crew with a U-Haul cab-over filled with ammo & missiles and a fuel truck and you'd be back in business terrorizing underpaid Russian conscripts. I still say the main reason we're holding back is the CINC doesn't want to see a Ukrainian "pay-back" air strike directly on the Kremlin.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/mig-29-specs.htm
length of takeoff run, in meters: Without afterburner 600-700m; With afterburner 260m.
length of the landing path with a brake parachute, in meters, 600m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29
https://skybrary.aero/aircraft/mg29
Don't forget that the Russians have several batteries of S-400 anti-aircraft missiles in eastern Ukraine just waiting to be tested. If you can believe the hype, they would make short work of the Migs.
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Unless they have a Beriev A-50 Mainstay in the air continuously they are likely to miss an extreme low altitude (on the deck), high speed attack. There is also diversionary tactics like simultaneously sending off 20 surface to ship "Exocet" or similar towards the Black Sea fleet to distract the command structure. The MiG-29 equipped with drop tanks could cover the 550 or so miles to Moscow in 20-25 minutes. They likely couldn't get back, but they certainly could make a point. A Lob or Toss bomb run with a "smart weapon" would help a lot. Possibly mission survivors could punch out close to Estonia or Latvia and attempt to exfil to these countries. Hopefully we'll get lucky and Russia will "retire" Putin real soon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_A-50
https://warontherocks.com/2016/04/rediscovering-low-altitude-getting-past-the-air-forces-overcommitment-to-stealth/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toss_bombing
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The few remaining Ukraine su27 are probably better suited to an attack on Moscow than the Mig 29s but I think the likely hood of that actually occurring is close to zero.
It would undo a lot of the good PR the Ukrainian have managed to build up and basically confirm for a lot of Russians that "Putin was right about the Ukrainian threat" .
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From GlennF: "It would undo a lot of the good PR the Ukrainian have managed to build up and basically confirm for a lot of Russians that "Putin was right about the Ukrainian threat"."
That's hard to disagree with. It makes it even harder to find a logical reason that the USA is blocking the transfer of Polish MiG's. If the Ukrainians are able to hit Moscow now with their Su27's but are strategically savvy enough not to, I'm not seeing how providing more aircraft like those they already are using aggravates the situation more than semi-trailer loads of various lethal MANPADS and ammunition. The Switchblade 600's, Javelins, Hellfire's, Exocets, etc. coming in to Ukraine from Poland are all lethal to the Russian troops, trucks & armor, and the Russian air defenses are fully tuned up for conventional aircraft. I AM hoping the various pickup-portable shore-to-ship missiles will keep the Russian Black Sea Navy at a polite distance from shore, that will at least reduce the damage from Naval gunfire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-27
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The new toybox gets opened... :(
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60802572
How significant are Russia's hypersonic missile claims?; Paul Kirby, BBC News Online Europe editor
As was reported here earlier, Russia's military has said it fired a "Kinzhal" hypersonic ballistic missile and destroyed a big underground arms depot in western Ukraine. If confirmed, it would be Russia's first use in this war of the Kinzhal - or Dagger - ballistic missile launched from the air, most likely by a MiG-31 warplane.
Russian leader Vladimir Putin unveiled the Kinzhal four years ago as one of a series of "invincible" weapons that he said would evade enemy defences. The Kinzhal can carry a nuclear warhead as well as a conventional one, and recent reports said MiG-31 fighters had been sent to Kaliningrad, bringing numerous European capitals within reach. There is no indication from where the attack on the arms depot was launched.
"It's a sign of showmanship. Even if it's used we should consider it as an isolated moment because Russia doesn't have a large number of these missiles," says Dominika Kunertova of the Center for Security Studies in Zurich. "It's a signal to the West, because Putin is annoyed that the West is daring to shift all these weapons [to Ukraine]," she told the BBC. "It's questionable that it's so accurate, so it's not a game changer.
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I just heard on the ABC national radio news that there is a report that the head of the Russian spy agency, FSB?, has been placed under house arrest by Russia's favorite dictator. Is he getting a little worried about his former coworkers? ;)
Meanwhile this dog poo disposal can has popped up at a local park. ;D
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Looks like some job openings at the Kremlin - what's Stephen Miller doing now? I hear the FSB offers "lifetime" pensions...and the work should be right up his alley.
11 May 2020:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10603045/Putin-places-head-FSBs-foreign-intelligence-branch-house-arrest.html
17 May 2022:
https://sofrep.com/news/putin-turns-on-his-own-fsb-spies-as-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-goes-wrong/
Here's hoping some potential "retiree" does a pre-emptive strike.
Apparently Russia are serious about eliminating the US Navy. Hopefully the US Navy's laser defense hardware is up and running.
From 15 Dec 2021:
( https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tech/334520-russia-begins-mass-production-of-hypersonic-missilesOther than Vladimir "Putin’s statement (that it can cover 1,000 km at Mach 9), practically nothing is known about Zircon. Even its appearance is classified. It is known only that Zircon cannot be tracked by any radar or intercepted by any air defense system, thus posing a huge threat.
There is one other important and curious reason why Russia was able to create Zircon right now, seemingly far from military matters: the creation of a hip endoprosthesis made from a carbon fiber–reinforced composite material. At recent arms exhibitions, the development has been actively promoted by Russian weapons manufacturer Tactical Missiles Corporation, which encompasses the Reutov design bureau. The human skeleton among cruise missiles, aerial bombs and naval mines may look strange, but it is the key to understanding Zircon.
According to official sources, the material not only looks like human bone tissue and becomes part of the body, it does not require subsequent transplantation, as in the case of titanium prostheses, and can withstand a temperature of 2,500°C. This is exactly what Zircon has to endure when flying to a target at a distance of 1,000 km in less than five minutes, a feat that was way beyond last-century technologies."
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It's not good when Fox & Axios agree....looks like a 2 front effort begins as soon as the first Russian missile hits a Polish NATO convoy. Or sooner when we establish a humanitarian "No-Fly" over Lviv & Mariupiol.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/17/europe/ukraine-mariupol-bombing-theater-russia-intl/index.html
"People are doing everything themselves. My friends went to help, but due to constant shelling it was not safe. People are clearing away the rubble themselves. There is no rescue operation, because all the services that are supposed to rescue people, to treat them, to bury them, these services no longer exist," Taruta told Ukrainian television.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-admiral-says-china-militarized-isles-south-china-sea
"These actions contradict Chinese President Xi Jinping's past assurances that the isles would not be converted into military bases"
https://www.axios.com/china-fully-militarized-three-islands-south-china-sea-ad53e225-960b-4b17-aab4-c88408c4b4e3.html
China has fully militarized at least three artificial islands it built in the South China Sea, U.S. Indo-Pacific commander Adm. John C. Aquilino told the Associated Press.
Why it matters: The country's territorial claims over the South China Sea have been a frequent source of tension with neighboring nations, as well as the United States, which seeks to bolster its engagement in Southeast Asia and the Indo-Pacific region
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Something for our audiophiles...not exactly a "backlash" when Big Brother calls the shots.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60814306
War in Ukraine: Backlash in Russia against anti-war musicians
A few days after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, one of Russia's largest media companies, Russian Media Group (RMG), released a statement explaining why it would no longer be playing certain artists on its popular radio stations or music TV channel.
"The reason for this decision was the harsh statements these musicians made towards Russia in the context of the difficult situation between Russia and Ukraine," the statement read.
It explained that respect for its listeners was the company's top priority, and the "arrogant and contemptuous attitude of the musicians towards Russian listeners" left it no choice but to terminate its contract with the artists.
The list included several Ukrainian musicians and three Russian acts, including legendary rock group Aquarium, whose lead singer, Boris Grebenshchikov, had called the war "madness" in a post on Instagram. He is no stranger to political pressure.
"I've spent half my life under some sort of ban", Mr Grebenshchikov told the BBC. "There were bans in the 70s, bans in the 80s - there's nothing unusual about it. Then the same people who ban you give you prizes."
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Looks like the Exocets have been uncrated...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60859337
Russian warship destroyed in occupied port of Berdyansk, says Ukraine
A Russian landing ship has been destroyed and two other vessels have been damaged in the occupied Ukrainian port city of Berdyansk, say Ukrainian officials.
The Ukrainian military posted footage early on Thursday and said the Orsk had been hit by its forces.
Details of what caused the explosion and fire on board the ship are unclear.
Berdyansk, which is west of the besieged port of Mariupol, was seized four days after Russia invaded Ukraine.
Russia says it has used the port as a base to ferry in equipment for its troops.
Russian army TV hailed the arrival of the Orsk in Berdyansk last week as an "epic event" as it was the first Russian warship to dock there.
You need to do something. If Russia destroys Ukraine successfully by making them unable to feed or house its own people, that is a very real win for them. They need to be stopped before that crisis point is reached, it gives the Russian too much leverage. Finland or Sweden could be next.
https://www.newsweek.com/poland-nato-ukraine-russia-war-invasion-1689420
Poland Pushes NATO for Forces to Ukraine in Potential Major Escalation
Poland will ask NATO if it can send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine in an attempt to step up the alliance's involvement in crisis following Russia's invasion.
"I think that it is necessary to have a peace mission, NATO, possibly some wider international structure," Kaczynski said according to news agency Ukrinform. "But a mission that will be able to defend itself, which will operate on Ukrainian territory."
Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said on Friday that Warsaw would make a formal submission to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine at the next NATO summit, Reuters reported.
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Someone figured Putin will let the Natgas and possibly Oil flow for free while everyone sanctions Russia.
Putin will take payment in Rubles now - Check.
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Might be a good time to stock up on Iodine & Atropine. :o Air Brazil is just a phone call away...
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Might be a good time to stock up on Iodine & Atropine. :o Air Brazil is just a phone call away...
Brasil is a bit too enlightened for my taste with the vaxx quote of 100%. ;)
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Covid's OVER - just drop by my local supermarket & see. Have you ever personally seen the Covid-19 virus? I think not - proof it's all just a UN/WHO/Trilateral Commission/Democrat/Illiterati, er Illuminati hoax. :o
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I don't care if it's a hoax or not. You tell me what the literary rate in Brazil is, however 100% vaxx rate, right. ;)
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You've already said you test everyday, so there has to be a record of your negative tests. As far as Proof of Vaccination, you can get those docs over the Internet... ;)
As to literacy rates, as my old pal Dave used to say about his lady friends "Pleasant is good." No college degree required there, right? ;D
All that's left is a rental motorcycle & a chrome .44 caliber Rossi. 8) Adeus e boa viagem!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5iHSh54xeo
"Maria Rita" - [Menina da Lua]
https://br.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/#:~:text=Brazil%20requires%20proof%20of%20full,Requirements%20for%20Travel%20to%20Brazil.%E2%80%9D
Brazil requires proof of full vaccination, a negative COVID-19 test, and a completed Traveler's Health Declaration (DSV) prior to boarding a Brazil-bound flight to enter. Detailed information on Brazil's entry requirements can be found under “Entry and Exit Requirements for Travel to Brazil.”
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You've already said you test everyday, so there has to be a record of your negative tests. As far as Proof of Vaccination, you can get those docs over the Internet... ;)
As to literacy rates, as my old pal Dave used to say about his lady friends "Pleasant is good." No college degree required there, right? ;D
All that's left is a rental motorcycle & a chrome .44 caliber Rossi. 8) Adeus e boa viagem!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5iHSh54xeo
"Maria Rita" - [Menina da Lua]
https://br.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/#:~:text=Brazil%20requires%20proof%20of%20full,Requirements%20for%20Travel%20to%20Brazil.%E2%80%9D
Brazil requires proof of full vaccination, a negative COVID-19 test, and a completed Traveler's Health Declaration (DSV) prior to boarding a Brazil-bound flight to enter. Detailed information on Brazil's entry requirements can be found under “Entry and Exit Requirements for Travel to Brazil.”
They "subjects" still did´t give up on the "testing". A positive test is good for 2 weeks off. ;) ...looks like I will get just a flue thouh.
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Covid's OVER - just drop by my local supermarket & see. Have you ever personally seen the Covid-19 virus? I think not - proof it's all just a UN/WHO/Trilateral Commission/Democrat/Illiterati, er Illuminati hoax. :o
It was Lizard People, a friend of mines mum saw it on the internet so it must be true.
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This is apparently how it's going down... :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw7tZ2z9krE
The Lizard People Conspiracy
Comment from Ginlock45:
Finally some positive reptoid representation in media. Just to thinking we might be able to walk the surface without an active chameleon matrix someday brings a crocodile tear to my slit pupil eyes.
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Looks like a Swedish party, or swedish EU part of the party atleast.
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That should tip the "scales" then...see what I did there? ;D
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Back to California again. It is an election year and the state has collected a lot more in taxes than they know what to do with (other than cutting taxes). They collected something like $70 billion more than they had anticipated, apparently due to everyone quitting their jobs and going on the federal government's pandemic handout dole. ::) Now with gas prices going over $6 a gallon, there is a rush to give the voters some of the extra money back in the form of a $200, $400, or $800 "gift" to compensate for the extra cost of fuel. That way they can turn around and give that money to the Oil Companies when they drive their cars on vacation this summer. >:(
So far there are three competing plans for giving out money to CA's residents: the Governor's plan which proposes to give $400 to every vehicle owner with a limit of 2 vehicles, including owners of electric vehicles; the "progressive" legislature democrats' plan, that proposes to hand out $200 to every low-income resident (even if they don't pay taxes or own a car) in the state and another plan by more "central" democrats who want to return $400 to every taxpayer. This being an election year, the majority of voters will be getting something for free and that is for sure - even if they will just be getting some of their own money back. ::)
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That should tip the "scales" then...see what I did there? ;D
No wonder they're praying for Putin to come and free them from the lizzard brain wash.
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Didn't I see you on that latest Sky News video from Donbas, spotting for Naval artillery? The red bike darting around the smoking ruins?
"С нами Бог и Андреевский флаг!"
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Been at the lizard 🦎 party too, if that thing with the plenty tentacles wasn't there it might have played out fine, so it wasn't all that much fun.
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@ #983: "even if they will just be getting some of their own money back."
Get my own money back? Sounds good to me. "Some is better than none" I've heard. Better than adding it to a surplus tucked away for a "rainy day", like that would ever happen. Anyway, $400 is about the amount needed for a new cylinder head or timing cover for my spare 350 motor.
$6 a gallon for petro already in the storage tanks? No price gouging or collusion there. The Petro industry is completely out of control. I wonder how long an individual Senator would last before being run out of office if he dared call for actual Oil Company regulation. Shell recently beat a Nigerian lawsuit where their private mercenary army executed unarmed protesters occupying a near shore platform after locking them in a connex for 2 days.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/23/dutch-court-rejects-suit-of-nigerian-widows-against-shell
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-11/shell-to-pay-110-million-to-end-30-year-nigeria-oil-spill-case
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@ #986: Did you get to Second Base? :o
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@ #986: Did you get to Second Base? :o
After a third time to that party i had no choice than to sell the world. ;)
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I just passed by my local Shell (no service) gas station. Regular 87 octane fuel was priced at $5.90 but diesel fuel was an even dollar more. :o What is up with that?
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@ #986: Did you get to Second Base? :o
I forgot to mention the probably most entertaining part of the party was the russian madam with swedo-american heritage delivering that what was supposed to be the sputnik-v shot. ;D
The answer i got was: "Do you understand Russian?". ;D ;D ;D ...the rest went somewhat like this.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLHJSWjw/
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...so round, so firm, so fully packed... ;D
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Doesn't really sound like China's backing off its world domination plan. The lesson from Ukraine is that the West won't really oppose your incursions. No "Humanitarian Zone", no "No Fly Zone", just die while we wring our hands, pat ourselves on the back and watch the Oscars. There's a real message there - if you don't have nuclear weapons, get ready to get gobbled up. Ukraine had a device but turned it over to Russia in exchange for a non-aggression pact. That hasn't worked out so well. Yielding a square inch of ground in Ukraine puts every non-NATO country at risk. Can't wait until Russia begins threatening Finland & Sweden to block their NATO membership. "Ya pays me now or ya pays me later", easier to deal with it now. Ukraine has a lot of reasons to be bitter when we blocked their NATO entry and then didn't allow them air cover resources, allowing Russia to pulverize their infrastructure. Those 30 aircraft would have made a difference early on. Nobody appreciates being made the sacrificial anode.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-60870238
Solomon Islands confirms China security draft, alarming Australia
The details of the leaked plans have particularly concerned Australia, which is just 2000km (1,400 miles) south of the Solomon Islands.
The papers set out a framework which could allow Beijing to deploy forces to "protect the safety of Chinese personnel and major projects in Solomon Islands".
The tiny Pacific nation could also "request China to send police, armed police, military personnel and other law enforcement and armed forces", according to the document.
There is also provision for China to "make ship visits, to carry out logistical replenishment in, and have stopover and transition in Solomon Islands".
Security analysts say the plans reveal China's clear intention in the region for the first time.
"It shows in black and white what China is asking for and in some ways has done Australia a favour," said Jonathan Pryke, a Pacific Islands analyst at Australia's Lowy Institute thinktank.
"We are at the start of a long process before we would see any sort of boots on the ground or form of military presence in the Solomon Islands... but it is worrying to see just what China's intent is," he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3171975/increased-us-activity-south-china-sea-raises-risk-conflict
Increased US activity in South China Sea raises risk of conflict, Chinese researchers warn
6:00pm, 27 Mar, 2022
Study by a Beijing think tank says the US has almost doubled the number of exercises involving carrier groups and stepped up other activities. Many of the drills, including dozens with US allies, are clearly aimed at China, the report says.
https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/china-in-a-microwave-weapon-great-leap-forward/
China in a microwave weapon great leap forward ; MARCH 17, 2022
Chinese scientists have developed a microwave weapon device that could be deployed to target and burn US satellites.
In a space shot across America’s bow, Chinese scientists have reportedly developed an ultra-high powered microwave device that can potentially jam satellite communications or damage sensitive satellite electronics.
The device, known as the Relativistic Klystron Amplifier (RKA), is a high-power microwave (HPM) source that is widely used in high-power radars, new accelerators and new communication systems because of its advantages in high-power, high-efficiency, stable-phase and stable-amplitude of output power.
According to Sichuan-based Chinese researchers, the device could generate a 5-megawatt short pulse in the Ka-band, a satellite frequency increasingly used by businesses and the military.
Ka-band systems are especially useful for military applications since they are built with smaller, steerable beams for high-capacity density, which adds some enhanced jam resistance for platforms while supporting significant uplink data rates for programs such as military intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and other data-rich applications.
Previous Chinese RKA prototypes only achieved a few hundred kilowatts of power in the Ka-band, but a substantial redesign by Chinese researchers allowed it to generate 501 megawatts in an experiment, with computer modeling suggesting even more room for improvement.
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https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukraines-old-air-defense-proves-unexpectedly-effective-in-combat/
Ukraine’s old air defense proves unexpectedly effective in combat ; March 16, 2022 11:47 pmNo one really expected it — but after three weeks of Russia’s all-out war, Ukraine’s air defense is still exceeding expectations.
This branch of service not only managed to largely survive Russia’s massive missile attacks in the invasion’s early hours. It took up the fight and prevented the Russians from enjoying total supremacy in the air.
Obviously outnumbered and outgunned, Ukraine’s air defense has been particularly effective in defending Kyiv from most cruise and ballistic missiles, which is yet another surprising moment of this war.
In contrast to Kharkiv, Mariupol, or Chernihiv, which are vulnerable to airstrikes, Kyiv is still the best-protected, as most missiles targeting the city are successfully intercepted.
This comes in spite of the fact that Ukraine lacks tactical anti-missile defense systems of the Patriot or Aegis class, and isn’t expecting to get such assistance from the West any time soon.
Nonetheless, as experts say, despite Russia probably running out of high-precision missiles like the Kalibr or Iskander, the Kyiv air and missile defense should embrace itself for a tough test.
Besides, according to experts, despite having operated older Soviet weaponry, Ukrainian air defense units have had extensive simulator training for years, which now effectively reveals its results in real air combat against Russia.
Now, to seek and destroy an effective stationary surface-to-air missile system deployed in the depths of urban terrain is a very complicated and expensive mission.
“An S-300 unit is a weapon that can defend itself in the first place. Russia needs to deliver a range of precise missile strikes to possibly take just one air defense unit out,” Zhdanov says.
“This is something it cannot afford.”
Meanwhile, as Western and Ukrainian intelligence suggests, Russia is very likely using the relative lull in combat operations to consolidate its forces and supplies for yet another attempt to encircle Kyiv from the east and the west and impose a full blockade.
As experts believe, the new strike would be weaker in terms of manpower Russia can apply, given its weak reserves and low mobilization capabilities.
So it comes very naturally that Russia is very likely to compensate for that with an inflated amount of airpower thrown in battle, which means a hard mission for the Kyiv air defense.
Read also: Russia concentrates military power for Kyiv assault
So far, all calls to NATO and the West by Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine, or at least provide Ukraine with Soviet-era fighters like MiG-29s, have been fruitless.
The deployment of extremely expensive and complicated U.S.-produced systems like the MIM-104 Patriot, in Ukraine, is also very unlikely in the foreseeable future.
However, as CNN reported on March 16, quoting an unnamed senior U.S. official, the U.S. and NATO allies were “already sending several surface-to-air missile systems” to Ukraine.
These additional systems include reportedly short- and medium-ranged Soviet weapons marked under their NATO codes as SA-8 Gecko (9К33 Osa), SA-10 Grumble (S-300P), SA-12 Gladiator (S-300V), and SA-14 Gremlin, (9К34 Strela-3) man-portable light anti-aircraft systems.
Shortly following Zelensky’s address to the U.S. Congress on March 16, U.S. President Joe Biden also said he would allocate additional $800 million in security assistance to “to help Ukraine fend off Russia’s assault.”
The new package includes 800 Stinger anti-aircraft systems and 100 drones.
“We’re going to continue to have their backs as they fight for their freedom and democracy,” Biden said.
Moreover, on March 16, the United Kingdom’s Secretary for Defense Ben Wallace also confirmed Britain would provide Ukraine with short-range man-portable systems Starstreak.
Some air defense reinforcement might be coming from Slovakia.
According to three sources quoted by CNN on March 16, Slovakia, a NATO member nation still operating S-300 systems, is preliminarily ready to hand the air defense capabilities to Ukraine.
However, Slovakia wants the older Soviet hardware to be immediately replaced with modern, U.S.-produced Patriot systems, CNN said.
Germany and the Netherlands have already publicly announced their readiness to send Patriots to Slovakia, but the acquisition of the air defense system might take time, as CNN sources noted.
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These should help against the artillery.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/switchblade-bombs-us-ukraine-b2045728.html
26 May - Ukraine to use baguette-sized Switchblade flying bombs to attack Russian tanks from above
The US has sent 100 of the weapons to aid in the war against Russia
Ukraine is preparing to deploy a high-precision missile bomb that can autonomously scout out Russian targets. The American-made Switchblades can be remotely-piloted or independently fly over enemy lines to identify and then hit battlefield command and control headquarters.
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100 missiles will not go far. I suspect they mean 100 launchers.
I had the impression the loitering capability was mainly for anti-radar. When an air defence system fires up its radar the switchblade locks on and takes it out.
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The Switchblade comes in two types. Both are electric-powered. The 300 model only weighs around 12 pounds has a range of about 6 miles, while the 600 model is much larger and has a range of 25 miles. Both are directed by a TV camera and controlled by the launching operator. The 300 has a small warhead that will damage unarmored trucks, while the 600 is much larger and has a shaped charge that can take out a tank if hit in the right spot. This is according to YouTube videos that I watched yesterday which looked like they were published by the Switchblade manufacturer. Both drones are designed for close battlefield warfare.
This morning the news is reporting that Russia says they will be pulling away from Kyiv and concentrating their forces in the eastern area of Ukraine. Speculation is that their new and improved plan is to cut off an eastern chunk of the country and absorb it into Russia. I doubt the Ukrainians are going to be happy about that and might just keep on fighting and wearing the Russian forces down to a nub over the next few years.
BTW, it is going to cost the Russians a lot of money and time to replace all of the munitions that have been burned up in this war. I think this war is going to compromise their ability to invade any more countries for the next ten years.
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Returning to California politics again: Yesterday the Democratic state legislature was considering a bill proposed by the few remaining Republicans that would have rolled back the state's gas tax for the rest of the year. They kept the bill's title, but removed all of its language and replaced it with a oil extraction tax. As usual, the Democratic majority believes that creating more taxes will solve all of the state's problems - provided that they get to specify how to spend the money. ::)
The other money news is that some of the state's big water districts, who demanded that people cut back on water usage and created usage tiers that punished residents who used too much water by increasing the cost of the water by a lot if they went over a minimum amount, are now establishing general fee increases to address the anticipated drought this year. What I got a kick out of is their justification. They first said that their customers were only cutting back their water consumption by a small amount - which they were, drought be dammed. Then they said that their customers were not using enough water and since that lowered their income, they needed to raise their general water rates to maintain the income that they need to maintain their operations and established expenses. ::)
No one is more creative than a politician looking for more money to spend. ;)
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@ #996: Something doesn't add up. Wikipaedia claims a $6000 each cost for the 300 model. Obviously the 600 would be more, say $20,000?
$600,000,000/$20,000 = 30,000 missiles....seems a lot.
This is from the "Independent" article.
" US President Joe Biden supplied Ukraine with 100 of the weapons for a cost of £600m. " 600,000,000/100 = $6,000,000 per shoulder fired missile...?!?
Anyway, the 25 mile range Switchblade 600 seems like a good weapon to get the Russian Motorized Rifles Brigade off the back of Mariupol. Watching the howitzer & crew next to you become firey chunks should be a real demoralizer and good incentive to back-the-F _ _ _ off.
What do you bet that Taiwan is next in line at AeroVironment to get their order filled?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_Switchblade
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The YouTube video that I watched said the 300 cost $10K. Likely the price has gone up recently due to consumer demand. ::) I can't recall exactly, but I bet the 600 runs a lot more that $20K. ;) The argument by the manufacturer for its much higher price is that it is still well worth the cost if it can knock out a multi-million dollar MBT.
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Yep pretty sure they are supplying 100 launcher systems and a LOT more than 100 of the missile/ordinance you fire from them.
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Here is something a little different for this thread. A friend sent me this nice photo of the Half Moon Bay Airport, California, located about 40 miles south of San Francisco. He took it about 10 years ago when he could still fly his airplane, before a motorcycle crash put a stop to that activity a couple of years ago. :(
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Someone has done a freeware version of that for Microsoft Flight Simulator. Not up to the standard of custom payware airports but it is after all free.
(https://cdn.flightsim.to/images/01/OF7h1plj.png?width=1400&auto_optimize=medium)