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Slappy

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on: September 28, 2022, 01:10:43 pm
Good afternoon all

Having recently finished my bike I am having a bit of an issue with the handlebars slipping, the bars are the 1950's type from Hitchcocks

all the bolts and bracket are new stainless steel, the last thing I want is them slipping when riding, and I didn't really  want to pin or grub screw them if possible
Has anyone got any good ideas

Thanks Dave.


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Reply #1 on: September 28, 2022, 01:20:50 pm
I'll toss this out there. Can't guarantee it will work.
My handlebar controls would not stay in place. They are pretty beat up, so may be deformed. Anyway, I wrapped a bit of that traction tape you put on stair risers around the bar and that did the trick.
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Reply #2 on: September 28, 2022, 01:35:02 pm
If I ran into a similar problem, I'd probably go for shimming the clamp with some slices of thin steel. If I had the tool, knurling the bar where it clamps would probably work too.


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Reply #3 on: September 28, 2022, 01:57:13 pm
As 'ddavidv' and 'stinkwheel' have already suggested, taking about the only actual maintenence-related excerpt from Pirsig's famous Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence  to heart and somehow shimming them seems worth a try. Pirsig described shimming his loose handlebars with a simple cut piece of a beer can. But then beer cans were made of stouter stuff back then. Still, any thin sheet of reasonably firm metal cut to size might do the trick. I can't see how a drop or three of some "medium threadlocker" too, like this goo from Harbor Freight, could hurt. It'll be handy anyhow almost everywhere else if you're nursing a Bullet along. Hell, you might as well wear one as a pendant. Oh, and you would do well to wear gloves while preparing and manhandling that shim into place.


Step One: Prepare the metal
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Reply #4 on: September 28, 2022, 02:48:13 pm
+1 on the beer can trick. I've used them to shim a few different things with good results. Actually the modern beverage can being thin is a plus for me. They can be cut with regular scissors into long strips of what ever width you want and for a circular object like a handlebar wrapped how ever many layers it takes to get the right thickness.


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Reply #5 on: September 28, 2022, 02:51:30 pm
As 'ddavidv' and 'stinkwheel' have already suggested, taking about the only actual maintenence-related excerpt from Pirsig's famous Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence  to heart and somehow shimming them seems worth a try. Pirsig described shimming his loose handlebars with a simple cut piece of a beer can. But then beer cans were made of stouter stuff back then. Still, any thin sheet of reasonably firm metal cut to size might do the trick. I can't see how a drop or three of some "medium threadlocker" too, like this goo from Harbor Freight, could hurt. It'll be handy anyhow almost everywhere else if you're nursing a Bullet along. Hell, you might as well wear one as a pendant. Oh, and you would do well to wear gloves while preparing and manhandling that shim into place.


Step One: Prepare the metal
(Pretzels optional)

Thanks everyone for the reply's

I will give the shimming a go we have some really thin gauge at work

regarding the suggestion of beer can, I am a little concerned that a can from different continents are not the same i.e. US contains lager stuff that rot's the can leaving it useless as a shim and destroys the soul

where as UK Ale adds layers to the metal and works wonders for the grey matter so aiding better motorcycle engineering ideas

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Reply #6 on: September 28, 2022, 03:34:38 pm
If the shimming with aluminum beverage can trimmings doesn't work out, these may be a next step:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-4-3-16-in-x-11-1-4-in-150-Fine-Grit-Drywall-Sanding-Sheets-5-Pack-9091DC-NA/100130840

Thin, tough open mesh fabric with a hard mineral coating for bite. Use an old resharpenable knife to trim to desired size.
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Reply #7 on: September 28, 2022, 03:41:20 pm
Thanks AzCal


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Reply #8 on: September 28, 2022, 03:44:45 pm
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regarding the suggestion of beer can, I am a little concerned that a can from different continents are not the same i.e. US contains lager stuff that rot's the can leaving it useless as a shim and destroys the soul

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Reply #9 on: September 29, 2022, 02:07:59 pm
When I've needed a thin shim, I've cut a blade off a feeler gauge set.
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Reply #10 on: September 29, 2022, 03:08:45 pm
When I've needed a thin shim, I've cut a blade off a feeler gauge set.
Yep, same here  ;D
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Reply #11 on: October 22, 2022, 10:26:12 pm
Good afternoon all

Having recently finished my bike I am having a bit of an issue with the handlebars slipping, the bars are the 1950's type from Hitchcocks

all the bolts and bracket are new stainless steel, the last thing I want is them slipping when riding, and I didn't really  want to pin or grub screw them if possible
Has anyone got any good ideas


I had to use a set screw on my trials bike.

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Reply #12 on: October 24, 2022, 06:35:34 am
When I've needed a thin shim, I've cut a blade off a feeler gauge set.

Always wondered what that super thin one was for  ???
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Reply #13 on: October 24, 2022, 09:46:24 am
If you cut off a feeler gauge, the next job you do will probably require a feeler gauge of exactly that thickness.
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Reply #14 on: October 24, 2022, 10:54:33 am
After posting the question I've not had the chance to even take the cover back off the bike, I have been doing a complete rewire for a friend with a XS 750 Chop.

One issue I did have the last time I tried to tighten it down a bit more one of the top threads went, so I am going to have strip it all off and fit a hellicoil when I get a minute

Need to pull my finger out as it is going to an indoor show on the 10th December

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