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dcolak

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Reply #45 on: June 30, 2020, 06:38:40 pm
Where in my reply does it say about a rev limiter at  max hp?
As for information on Soft & Hard ecu cuts I suggest you do a bit or research on the Internet.
Perhaps you can enlighten us to your location in the world.

So you all have new motorcycles?

I am sorry, I did not know everyone here just bought their new GT 650's.

Thank you for mentioning soft rev-limiters. I learned something new.

I do not think there is a soft rev-limiter in GT 650.

Anyone, please, does your bike bog down on 7000 RPM in 1st gear, before reaching rev limited 8000 RPM?

Thank you!
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Reply #46 on: June 30, 2020, 08:20:37 pm
I pick up bike on Saturday. It has 150 miles on it so that is close to 190 so I will wind it up to 8000 rpm in 1st gear and see what happens. 8)





NOT!!!!
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dcolak

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Reply #47 on: June 30, 2020, 08:27:41 pm
I pick up bike on Saturday. It has 150 miles on it so that is close to 190 so I will wind it up to 8000 rpm in 1st gear and see what happens. 8)

NOT!!!!

Why not? What do you think would happen?  :)

If you think you would break something, you are simply wrong.

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Reply #48 on: June 30, 2020, 08:31:54 pm
I'm loving this thread, brings a smile to my face every time ;D
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Reply #49 on: June 30, 2020, 09:03:39 pm
All the bike forums I'm on and have been on in the past, NO ONE has asked to go and see where your bike rev limiter kicks in in first gear, not even on sport bike forums.

I'm with everyone else why??

Go to your dealer and test ride another, instead if asking us to red line our bikes.
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Reply #50 on: June 30, 2020, 09:31:59 pm
I've tried it  :) :) :) :) :)
It kicks in at 14.750 RPM and than I heard a strange noise...

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Reply #51 on: June 30, 2020, 10:13:44 pm
Here is another example for you.   ;) Bad things can happen when mistreat mechanical things.  ::)
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Reply #52 on: June 30, 2020, 10:26:27 pm
All the bike forums I'm on and have been on in the past, NO ONE has asked to go and see where your bike rev limiter kicks in in first gear, not even on sport bike forums.

I'm with everyone else why??

Go to your dealer and test ride another, instead if asking us to red line our bikes.

You really think you could do anything bad to a motor by hitting once in a while the rev limiter?

Please explain.

Knowing where rev-limiter kicks in is a safety issue.

You MUST know where it kicks in, that's the point where you are going to lose the traction.

Out of thousand members of this forum, not even one hit the rev limiter in first gear?  ;D ;D

Hitting the rev-limiter is NOT "mistreating" things. Where did you get that idea?  :D :D
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Reply #53 on: June 30, 2020, 10:31:19 pm
Anyone, please, does your bike bog down on 7000 RPM in 1st gear, before reaching rev limited 8000 RPM?
The way I ride, my bike will most likely never see 7,000 RPM in any gear.  No reason to ever rev it that high.
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Reply #54 on: June 30, 2020, 10:44:41 pm
Clearly, you're doing it wrong jimku..



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Reply #55 on: June 30, 2020, 11:09:55 pm
The way I ride, my bike will most likely never see 7,000 RPM in any gear.  No reason to ever rev it that high.

So, you don't actually use the whole RPM span bike offers?

That's strange, knowing that most HP you get at 7.250 RPM.

It's actually perfect spot to change the gear and stay at the top of the torque curve.
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Reply #56 on: June 30, 2020, 11:40:54 pm
If you hit the limiter and upshift, you are not going to accelerate any quicker than if you shift slightly earlier without the engine being cut by the limiter. What power there is after the limit is static, not increasing. The limiter isn't a shift indicator, but a protection against abuse. There are shift lights that display the ideal shift point to avoid the limiter or one can simply use a handy tachometer. I've unintentionally hit the limits on my bikes while street racing, often followed by some special words. YMMV.
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Reply #57 on: July 01, 2020, 01:33:39 am
If you hit the limiter and upshift, you are not going to accelerate any quicker than if you shift slightly earlier without the engine being cut by the limiter. What power there is after the limit is static, not increasing. The limiter isn't a shift indicator, but a protection against abuse. There are shift lights that display the ideal shift point to avoid the limiter or one can simply use a handy tachometer. I've unintentionally hit the limits on my bikes while street racing, often followed by some special words. YMMV.

Of course rev limiter is not a shift indicator.

My problem is, GT gets bogged long before reaching rev limiter (at 7.000 rpm, even before reaching it's max HP at 7.250 rpm), but only in 1st gear.

Other gears have no such problem.

I just wanted to know whether your bikes behave in the same way or I need to take mine into the service.

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Reply #58 on: July 01, 2020, 02:46:03 am
But I want my amp to go to 11 not 10. Thats why I got an 11 knob made.


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Reply #59 on: July 01, 2020, 03:10:49 am
Quantify your shift rpm versus a lower rpm at the track.  The track is the only way to know if you shifting at 8k is correct for the bike or not