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Dexter

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on: May 06, 2022, 01:20:47 am
Needing to know a few critical torque values on the Meteor, I went to our Factory Service Manual today, only to discover that there is no master sheet listing the torque values for all critical fasteners, unlike my Honda Service Manual, forcing you to scroll through hundreds of pages to find each value you might need. WTF! I'd never buy a hard cover copy of this POS.

Anyway, if there is anyone with a lot of spare time on their hands, looking for a project, the hive here would greatly benefit from a master sheet being made and posted as a sticky here.

I'm gathering a few for my task currently at hand and will record them for future use. Maybe a sticky that is writeable, where members could go and add specs as they come across the need for them could be a way to get this done.

Just a thought to make the DIY'er life a tad easier and, by the way, I'm not up up this N-m thingy and wish the manual also showed Ft-lb specs, to suit my old Snap On torque wrench, so listing found specs in Ft-lb would also be helpful for us old time codgers.
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Reply #1 on: May 07, 2022, 02:48:37 pm
Hi Dexter,.. that is a great idea ...torque settings are very important and it's hard to understand why they are not readily available... I have a new RE350 Reborn and I'm guessing a lot of the settings will be the same but anyway whatever ...it would be great to get a sheet up and running to help all of us RE
 riders. I would love to be able to contribute but I cannot find a single torque setting for my bike... I realise they are still fairly new but I want to put some crash bars on ... have to remove an engine mount bolt for that ....and a rear shock absorber upgrade so would be nice if I could torque  them up to the right settings...


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Reply #2 on: May 07, 2022, 03:28:40 pm
Hi Dexter,.. that is a great idea ...torque settings are very important and it's hard to understand why they are not readily available... I have a new RE350 Reborn and I'm guessing a lot of the settings will be the same but anyway whatever ...it would be great to get a sheet up and running to help all of us RE
 riders. I would love to be able to contribute but I cannot find a single torque setting for my bike... I realise they are still fairly new but I want to put some crash bars on ... have to remove an engine mount bolt for that ....and a rear shock absorber upgrade so would be nice if I could torque  them up to the right settings...

Here is the Meteor Service Manual. It has all the torque settings, but unlike a Honda Service Manual, there is no master sheet listing all values on one or two pages, so you have to search through the manual's various sections for the values you need. Not very convenient, but better than nothing.

That's why it would be good to have a master sheet, as has been done for the 650 models on that sub forum.

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LRVf/dC5NZW3pQ

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Reply #3 on: May 13, 2022, 05:20:01 pm
Anyone found the torque specs for the handlebar clamp pinch bolts?

Update... found it.  24-28 N-m
« Last Edit: May 13, 2022, 05:23:19 pm by Meteorite »


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Reply #4 on: May 15, 2022, 05:38:19 pm
Here is the Meteor Service Manual. It has all the torque settings, but unlike a Honda Service Manual, there is no master sheet listing all values on one or two pages, so you have to search through the manual's various sections for the values you need. Not very convenient, but better than nothing.

That's why it would be good to have a master sheet, as has been done for the 650 models on that sub forum.

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LRVf/dC5NZW3pQ

It loads a black page with a bunch of Russian writing. ???


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Reply #5 on: May 15, 2022, 07:04:53 pm
It loads a black page with a bunch of Russian writing. ???

I know everyone expects instant gratification from their computing devices when accessing information, but sometimes a bit of patience works wonders. The manual is a large PDF file and the initial page that opens from the link takes a few minutes to load the PDF to your downloads folder, after you click on the Meteor Manual icon.

Then, it takes several minutes, once you click on the downloaded folder, for the manual to appear on your desktop, where you can save it as a PDF on your computer device.

I just tried it and it worked fine, with some patience.
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Reply #6 on: October 01, 2022, 06:29:49 am
...hive here would greatly benefit from a master sheet being made and posted as a sticky here...

...Maybe a sticky that is writeable, where members could go and add specs as they come across the need for them could be a way to get this done.

...I'm not up up this N-m thingy and wish the manual also showed Ft-lb specs...

Well, lets give it a go. Here is a link we can all share to enter torque specifications. When you enter the specifications in N-m it will automatically calculate the rest for you (for those needing it)  :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pWGBuKAdP7UsRVF1zMgc1d05boKrTIfSSJdB5bO_Fto/edit?usp=sharing

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Reply #7 on: October 01, 2022, 07:04:47 am
Well, lets give it a go. Here is a link we can all share to enter torque specifications. When you enter the specifications in N-m it will automatically calculate the rest for you (for those needing it)  :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pWGBuKAdP7UsRVF1zMgc1d05boKrTIfSSJdB5bO_Fto/edit?usp=sharing

Most excellent Frank! Hopefully Bilgey can give this top of board status, like the one on the 650 forum. Is it possible that this can automatically put entries into alphabetical order, or is that asking too much?

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Reply #8 on: October 01, 2022, 06:19:23 pm
Is it possible that this can automatically put entries into alphabetical order, or is that asking too much?

I only know of two ways to accomplish alphabetizing:

One can select the row (where it should go) by clicking on the far left (the number of the row) and then selecting "Insert", "Rows", and then selecting "1 row above" or "1 row below. Then, type in the data. Formulas will automatically be inserted for the rest when the N-m value is entered.

If one is not comfortable doing that, they can simply enter their data and it can periodically be updated with a sort command.

It is important to realize this is a "live document" and data can be entered simultaneously by other users. As such, don't be alarmed if you see things happening on the screen you are not controlling. Not likely, but it could happen. This should also be considered a group effort, so the next time you are working on something or if you already have some of the torque values handy, take a moment and enter them accordingly.

Remember, this is designed to be a work in progress and will likely be a long ongoing project so some patience will be warranted here. I hope this proves to be a worthwhile endeavor, especially for those of us who perform our own maintenance and repairs.
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Reply #9 on: October 01, 2022, 09:33:26 pm
Hi Frank,

I plan to spend some time here and there working my way through the Meteor factory service manual and enter values as I find them and put them in alphabetically. However, I noted that there are a few already added, but their SM (service manual?) page numbers do not match with what I am seeing in the digital downloaded copy on my computer.

 ???
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Reply #10 on: October 01, 2022, 11:22:31 pm
I am using the service manual downloaded from the Russian website I think. Give me an example and I will check if it is one of the items I listed or maybe someone else. Thanks for the heads-up!
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Reply #11 on: October 02, 2022, 12:11:10 am
I am using the service manual downloaded from the Russian website I think. Give me an example and I will check if it is one of the items I listed or maybe someone else. Thanks for the heads-up!

The four entries that show SM pages in the 80's are not from that service manual. I have the same manual as you.

Also, when I have entered a line alphabetically, using your instruction for that, the torque value settings do not automatically compute through, but stay vacant. I was just there a few minutes ago and noted you were on there entering those - however you do that??
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Reply #12 on: October 02, 2022, 12:25:48 am
For now, if you just enter them starting with the first blank they will calculate properly. I can go in periodically and alphabetize them with a sort routine.
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Reply #13 on: October 02, 2022, 12:32:30 am
For now, if you just enter them starting with the first blank they will calculate properly. I can go in periodically and alphabetize them with a sort routine.

Will do. Cheers!
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1966 Honda 65 Sport
1967 Honda CB160
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Reply #14 on: October 02, 2022, 12:34:31 am
The four entries that show SM pages in the 80's are not from that service manual.

I posted the 80's pages. I've attached them for comparison. Maybe I don't have the same one as you...
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