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on: January 19, 2023, 09:18:54 pm
 I have read countless posts on curing gauge fog by removing the ‘Yellow Stickers” from the back/bottom of the gauge cluster.
 Last year I completed disassembly my gauges to replace the face with custom gauge faces. I did not remember seeing any ‘Yellow Stickers’ and every time I read another post praising their removal it bugs me.
 I was working on another project that required removing my faring so I thought why not investigate the sticker thing while I’m at it.
 I unbolted the gauges and look at back & bottom and find no stickers other than product bar codes. See attached photos.
 What am I missing?
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Reply #1 on: January 19, 2023, 10:20:23 pm
Same here Jess, ive looked and looked and looked a little abit more and still cant find these bloody little yellow stickers, so i just gave up.


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Reply #2 on: January 19, 2023, 10:25:58 pm
 So that leads me to this question: did they change the design? I have never had any fogging issues, even with a pretty wet fall.
 Mine is a 2022 model, bought in September of 2021.
 Anyone have photos of the stickers?
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Reply #3 on: January 19, 2023, 10:36:06 pm
 My 2020 Interceptor = no yellow stickers, no fogging.


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Reply #4 on: January 19, 2023, 10:40:19 pm
I have read countless posts on curing gauge fog by removing the ‘Yellow Stickers” from the back/bottom of the gauge cluster.
 Last year I completed disassembly my gauges to replace the face with custom gauge faces. I did not remember seeing any ‘Yellow Stickers’ and every time I read another post praising their removal it bugs me.
 I was working on another project that required removing my faring so I thought why not investigate the sticker thing while I’m at it.
 I unbolted the gauges and look at back & bottom and find no stickers other than product bar codes. See attached photos.
 What am I missing?

Yours have been removed. What build date is yours?

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Reply #5 on: January 19, 2023, 10:48:58 pm
Yours have been removed. What build date is yours?

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Jan 2022
 I am the first and only owner and did not remove any stickers, it came from factory this way.
 Can you tell me where they would have been? There are no open holes anywhere that they would have covered, just indentions for the screws.
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Reply #6 on: January 19, 2023, 10:59:20 pm
Jan 2022
 I am the first and only owner and did not remove any stickers, it came from factory this way.
 Can you tell me where they would have been? There are no open holes anywhere that they would have covered, just indentions for the screws.

Normally the outboard holes at 9 oclock and 3 oclock on the speedo.
Maybe the factory got the message OR the dealer got sick of complaints and removed them on the PD.
Your bike is 9 months younger than mine and mine had them.

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Reply #7 on: January 19, 2023, 11:30:48 pm
Normally the outboard holes at 9 oclock and 3 oclock on the speedo.
Maybe the factory got the message OR the dealer got sick of complaints and removed them on the PD.
Your bike is 9 months younger than mine and mine had them.

Phil
Doubt the dealer removed them. Bike was delivered (to dealer)in its crate on a Friday morning and I took it home Saturday afternoon.
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Reply #8 on: January 20, 2023, 05:17:06 am
The misting doesn't bother me too much as it only seems to come with blue skies and dissappears after a few minutes riding, so mine are still in place, intact.

Build is 8/2020.

Ps, I've heard that bikes coming out of the Chennai factory are a bit rough, reflecting poor assembly practices and quality control, compared to the Kanchipuram factory, where workers are more dedicated and treat their job like like a spiritual calling.  I was so relieved to find mine was assembled by the blessed hands of Kanchipuram Brahmans... Hence the yellow dots.   
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Reply #9 on: January 20, 2023, 05:57:34 am
The misting doesn't bother me too much as it only seems to come with blue skies and dissappears after a few minutes riding, so mine are still in place, intact.

Build is 8/2020.

Ps, I've heard that bikes coming out of the Chennai factory are a bit rough, reflecting poor assembly practices and quality control, compared to the Kanchipuram factory, where workers are more dedicated and treat their job like like a spiritual calling.  I was so relieved to find mine was assembled by the blessed hands of Kanchipuram Brahmans... Hence the yellow dots.

How did you establish your build location?

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Reply #10 on: January 20, 2023, 06:02:41 am
How did you establish your build location?

Phil

VIN letter K for Kanchipuram, seven from the right. (C for Chennai on the faulty bikes)


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Reply #11 on: January 20, 2023, 06:53:43 am
VIN letter K for Kanchipuram, seven from the right. (C for Chennai on the faulty bikes)

Ok thanks. I'll check mine.
EDIT....winner, winner, chicken dinner, mines a K bike (quality one) Apparently the "K" bikes are reserved for the "commonwealth" countries and the shitty "C" bikes for the rest of the world. By Royal decree apparently.

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Reply #12 on: January 20, 2023, 08:44:39 am
Yes, mine has a K.  K for Kwality. Now as a useless side storey. There was an Indian restaurant down here in Frankston, called Kwality Indian.  It went bust......


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Reply #13 on: January 20, 2023, 08:52:25 am
I've got a K- bike as well, mine had the yellow stickers and condensation until I removed the stickers.
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Reply #14 on: January 20, 2023, 09:06:45 am
Can you hear that?......................................
Thats 20,000 people getting their reg docs out.
There you go, this explains all the ills, Yellow dots, relays, poor welds, wobbly front ends, spark plugs etc.
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Reply #15 on: January 20, 2023, 09:50:23 am
Ha! Another megathread is born!  ;D

I'm putting my yellow stickers back on!


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Reply #16 on: January 20, 2023, 09:52:35 am
Ok thanks. I'll check mine.
Apparently the "K" bikes are reserved for the "commonwealth" countries...

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Reply #17 on: January 20, 2023, 12:34:31 pm
No yellow sticker, no fogging, K in the VIN.
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Reply #18 on: January 20, 2023, 02:54:57 pm
 Side note: this is only the second time my gauges have been removed from the bike and the mounting grommets completely fell apart.
Literally, one came off in two pieces the other three.
 I’m waiting on delivery of new ones to reassemble my GT. Ugh!!!
 
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Reply #19 on: January 20, 2023, 04:31:47 pm
<<Unless the the build location protocol for the SM is different from the INTerceptor, the build location is specified by the EIGHTH digit of the VIN (0 = Chennai; 1 = Kanchipuram):>

Pls disregard — that’s the engine number.

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Reply #20 on: January 20, 2023, 04:38:58 pm
Help, I can't take anymore, one moment my bike is better than Honda and now it's a grenade. What do I do?
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Reply #21 on: January 20, 2023, 06:11:25 pm
Ha! Another megathread is born!  ;D

I'm putting my yellow stickers back on!
Don't worry it's guaranteed to go off topic.
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Reply #22 on: January 20, 2023, 08:58:52 pm
Don't worry it's guaranteed to go off topic.
Most threads do when the topic is pointless/already done to death.

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Reply #23 on: January 20, 2023, 09:39:11 pm
Mine is a K 2021 engine build Jan 2021 and has the yellow stickers (and fogs badly in winter)
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Reply #24 on: January 21, 2023, 01:37:16 am
While we are out on a tangent: my bike is a "K" bike. I also notice that mu key # begins with a "K".
No clue if that K stands for the word key or the factory of origin.
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Reply #25 on: January 21, 2023, 07:07:18 am
does anyone here even have a C in their vin? mines k too. shrug.


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Reply #26 on: January 21, 2023, 07:46:45 am
No yellow sticker, no fogging, K in the VIN.
How do I know you're not pretending? 🤨


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Reply #27 on: January 21, 2023, 08:33:10 am
It's the month of build that's critical to the issue, with the level of misting reflecting the average humidity at date of manufacture relative to it's new environment.

Furthermore, it's actually a blessing, not a fault. Hanuman, the local grease monkey god, is powerless against humidity, but always has a plan. His promise, to those of faith, is a "holy water premium" that will double the resale value of the Kanhipuram twins that preserve the mini monsoons in the dials; those yellow dots are golden seals of kwality, so guard them with your life.

Sorry, Phil and Jess, this must really hurt.

Ps, Here's a image of the young grease monkey showing his precocious mechanical genius, hardening a piston with sacred milk. In this regard, he reminds me of you as a youngster, Phil.   
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Reply #28 on: January 21, 2023, 09:14:34 am
Chennai, anyone?


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Reply #29 on: January 21, 2023, 07:37:34 pm
I just pulled up the docs for my bike on my phone, and the letter C is nowhere in my VIN. So, I got a good one?

Still haven’t seen my bike in person up close since the night I bought it.
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Reply #30 on: January 21, 2023, 08:33:34 pm
I just pulled up the docs for my bike on my phone, and the letter C is nowhere in my VIN. So, I got a good one?

Still haven’t seen my bike in person up close since the night I bought it.
The K & C just denote which factory you bike was assembled. One poster suggested that the
Kanchipuram Factory produced better products than the Chennai factory, but without citing any supporting data.
 I put this in the same category as the old saying that cars build on Friday were crap. Since no one ever produced evidence that one out of every 7 cars were defective I put no stock in the validity of either statement.
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Reply #31 on: January 21, 2023, 08:49:27 pm
It's the month of build that's critical to the issue, with the level of misting reflecting the average humidity at date of manufacture relative to it's new environment.

Furthermore, it's actually a blessing, not a fault. Hanuman, the local grease monkey god, is powerless against humidity, but always has a plan. His promise, to those of faith, is a "holy water premium" that will double the resale value of the Kanhipuram twins that preserve the mini monsoons in the dials; those yellow dots are golden seals of kwality, so guard them with your life.

Sorry, Phil and Jess, this must really hurt.

Ps, Here's a image of the young grease monkey showing his precocious mechanical genius, hardening a piston with sacred milk. In this regard, he reminds me of you as a youngster, Phil.

Milk hardened pistons will become the next booster plug controversy for sure…

How did you get on with your replacement SSB battery?


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Reply #32 on: January 21, 2023, 09:50:51 pm
The K & C just denote which factory you bike was assembled. One poster suggested that the
Kanchipuram Factory produced better products than the Chennai factory, but without citing any supporting data.
 I put this in the same category as the old saying that cars build on Friday were crap. Since no one ever produced evidence that one out of every 7 cars were defective I put no stock in the validity of either statement.

This particular anecdote requires no supporting data Jess. Everyone knows deep down in their soul that their Monday and Friday efforts could be, lets say, improved upon. It's a the very core of being human :)

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Reply #33 on: January 22, 2023, 07:00:35 am
This particular anecdote requires no supporting data Jess. Everyone knows deep down in their soul that their Monday and Friday efforts could be, lets say, improved upon. It's a the very core of being human :)

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Reply #34 on: January 22, 2023, 07:19:15 am
Everything requires supporting data Phil.
Why did you choose the colour red?
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Reply #35 on: January 22, 2023, 07:21:14 am
Why did you choose the colour red?
My favorite color. And historically significant for café racers.
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Reply #36 on: January 22, 2023, 05:54:10 pm
So called Friday jobs.It was a way of blaming the skilled workforce for faults on cars,bikes etc on the assembly lines.Nothing to do with poor management,poor work practices implemented by the management,poor quality materials,inferior components.No it was the guy with the Friday syndrome of looking forward to the weekend and not concentrating on his job and not tightening up that nut or bolt that got the blame.I know I was there.
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Reply #37 on: January 22, 2023, 07:32:12 pm
My '22 GT (red) has no yellow stickers.

I'll get back about its VIN, when I return home tomorrow.

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Reply #38 on: January 23, 2023, 05:57:44 am
Milk hardened pistons will become the next booster plug controversy for sure…

How did you get on with your replacement SSB battery?

Y'know that's a sacramental lactate from Brahma's Kanchipuram bull? The controversy was settled with partition in 1947.

Speaking of which, I've been milking the last drops from the OEM battery with a friend's charger. Although the battery light stays red when I'm riding (sometimes it even goes off 🤗) I haven't been stranded, yet. I'm holding off on repurchasing a replacement LiPO4 while I figure out what kind of charger is actually needed - the instructions in the box say to fully charge it before installation, which I didn't do last time as I didn't have the appropriate charger. However, the tech person I spoke with at SSB said a generic 12V charger is perfectly fine depsite the hype of manfufacturers spruiking their overpriced LiPO4 specific chargers. I need to go to the forum's brain trust with this one. SSB techie also busted another myth I'd believed that charging a LiPO4 on the bike will blow you to smithereens. He said that may happen if you leave it charging for days, but it only needs 5-15 minutes to fully charge and it's fine to do that using  a generic charger with the battery installed. I've been meaning to post this in the Lithium Battery thread so knowledgeable folk can offer their two cents.
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Reply #39 on: January 23, 2023, 06:16:34 am
This particular anecdote requires no supporting data Jess. Everyone knows deep down in their soul that their Monday and Friday efforts could be, lets say, improved upon. It's a the very core of being human :)

Phil
+1 My efforts on Monday were so shameful, I couldn't live with myself, so for the past eight years I've been taking Monday's leave without pay. No comment on Friday efforts as I'm still being paid for them.
 
So called Friday jobs.It was a way of blaming the skilled workforce for faults on cars,bikes etc on the assembly lines.Nothing to do with poor management,poor work practices implemented by the management,poor quality materials,inferior components.No it was the guy with the Friday syndrome of looking forward to the weekend and not concentrating on his job and not tightening up that nut or bolt that got the blame.I know I was there.

+1 Thanks James, deep down I knew it was their fault!


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Reply #40 on: January 24, 2023, 03:32:07 am
Ok, just took my first official ride on my 650 (If you don't count the mad dash from the original owner's house in the dark to get it in the garage before it started raining.

It got cold, and my clocks started to fog up a bit. If I supposedly have one of the "good" bikes, what gives?
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Reply #41 on: January 24, 2023, 03:55:44 am
Ok, just took my first official ride on my 650 (If you don't count the mad dash from the original owner's house in the dark to get it in the garage before it started raining.

It got cold, and my clocks started to fog up a bit. If I supposedly have one of the "good" bikes, what gives?

Sounds like stickers are intact meaning you can expect a holy monsoon premium, an inundation of cash, on resale, at the very least! 💰💰💰 🤑


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Reply #42 on: January 24, 2023, 04:26:55 am
Update. My VIN contains a K, and no C. Build is January 22.

Again, no stickers and no fogging issue.


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Reply #43 on: January 24, 2023, 04:47:21 am
Update. My VIN contains a K, and no C. Build is January 22.

Again, no stickers and no fogging issue.

Sadly, someone has removed them, means you're knackered, ie no resale value 😰

Though at least you can look forward to fault free ownership, unlike those poor Chennai chumps 🙈🥜

Ps, while I don't condone deceipt, you could restore it to mint with a couple of these

https://www.amazon.com.au/Avery-Assorted-Stickers-Diameter-932291/dp/B078HHB5Q5/ref=asc_df_B078HHB5Q5/?tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=341744967513&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7824846478349359958&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071921&hvtargid=pla-892443155659&psc=1
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Reply #44 on: January 24, 2023, 09:24:23 am
Thats it! if mine has yellow stickers I am selling it! Along with a side stand that is too short for some (that makes it suitable for some roads that are not level), I can't believe they have sold a single bike  :P
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Reply #45 on: January 24, 2023, 12:51:43 pm
Mine is a K  ( sept2021) and it is fogging too. I havent looked for the stickers yet though. RE still promised me to come up with a solution.


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Reply #46 on: January 24, 2023, 01:37:09 pm
Yellow stickers ? I got ‘em. I also have fogged clocks depending on the weather. My bike was a K factory build in January 2021.


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Reply #47 on: January 24, 2023, 04:30:13 pm
Sounds like stickers are intact meaning you can expect a holy monsoon premium, an inundation of cash, on resale, at the very least! 💰💰💰 🤑

Oh man, that's a relief. I could really use a win right now, so the added holiness is appreciated.

Acutally, between the bike I sold to make room in my garage, and the purchase of my 650, I netted some cash, so it's already a lucky bike.

I suppose every time I hit a false neutral between 5 and 6, something good happens too?
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Reply #48 on: January 24, 2023, 07:13:50 pm
 Just a reminder that there are no yellow stickers on my, and apparently several others gauges.
 More importantly there are no holes for these stickers to cover…
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Reply #49 on: January 24, 2023, 08:30:55 pm
Mine is a K  ( sept2021) and it is fogging too. I havent looked for the stickers yet though. RE still promised me to come up with a solution.

Funny.

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Reply #50 on: January 24, 2023, 10:56:10 pm
Funny? That's hilarious! 😂🤣


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Reply #51 on: January 25, 2023, 09:45:34 pm
You can buy yellow stickers from India. About $20 each. I would think if your bike does not have them, this would be a wise buy.  They should stop fogging. Or not.


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Reply #52 on: January 26, 2023, 12:11:27 am



Speaking of which, I've been milking the last drops from the OEM battery with a friend's charger. Although the battery light stays red when I'm riding (sometimes it even goes off 🤗) I haven't been stranded, yet. I'm holding off on repurchasing a replacement LiPO4 while I figure out what kind of charger is actually needed - the instructions in the box say to fully charge it before installation, which I didn't do last time as I didn't have the appropriate charger. However, the tech person I spoke with at SSB said a generic 12V charger is perfectly fine depsite the hype of manfufacturers spruiking their overpriced LiPO4 specific chargers. I need to go to the forum's brain trust with this one. SSB techie also busted another myth I'd believed that charging a LiPO4 on the bike will blow you to smithereens. He said that may happen if you leave it charging for days, but it only needs 5-15 minutes to fully charge and it's fine to do that using  a generic charger with the battery installed. I've been meaning to post this in the Lithium Battery thread so knowledgeable folk can offer their two cents.

This. ^
Some people seem to think that you need a special charger. but ignore the fact that the bike's charging system is nothing special, nor does it come with a lithium specific setting. What do they think is going on?
Same people are probably the ones who freak out about tubeless conversions, fitting the wrong size tyres or doing engine mods when you could just buy a faster bike. They never do any of these things but they're happy to poo poo them because they don't like the sound of it.
A fool like that on another forum believes that turning a wheel on a bar between stands for balancing can damage the wheel bearings. I don't think there's a cure for stupid.

Personal antidote, and empirical evidence: I have lithium batteries in a couple of bikes. They're both at least 6 years old. I've charged them on the bike, with the bike, with car chargers and with hobby chargers. Not that I really need to. Neither has exploded even once. The one in my track bike, I disconnect it when I pack the bike away, hook it back up a month later and it's good to go. Unless I left the key on  ::) . Even then, they have some kind of low voltage cutoff that prevents them being damaged the way a LiPo battery is.

If you want to do it, do it and get on with your LiFe (Ahem. I'll see myself out...).
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Reply #53 on: January 26, 2023, 08:15:43 am
Just a reminder that there are no yellow stickers on my, and apparently several others gauges.
 More importantly there are no holes for these stickers to cover…
They must have changed them, Jess. Now the question is when?
btw I had yellow stickers and my bike is 05/21


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Reply #54 on: January 28, 2023, 08:04:00 pm
2020 GT 650. Here you can see the yellow stickers on mine. Just took them off as i have issues with fogging up the instruments here in New England. Yep there's a hole behind those stickers. Hope that fixed the issue.
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Reply #55 on: January 28, 2023, 10:23:22 pm
2020 GT 650. Here you can see the yellow stickers on mine. Just took them off as i have issues with fogging up the instruments here in New England. Yep there's a hole behind those stickers. Hope that fixed the issue.

let us know if it works
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Reply #56 on: January 29, 2023, 12:15:47 am

Why are the yellow stickers there?

The first time I saw them I thought they were simply quality control check dots that you see elsewhere.

So now we know they’re covering up holes, it would appear their purpose is to keep debris out.

 Perhaps they are also intended to keep rain and water out.

For those who have removed the stickers, are your gauges taking in water when you’re riding through rain, or even just washing the bike?
Are they taking in dust?

I rarely ride in the rain but have been caught in heavy cloudbursts from time to time.
Similarly, I don’t seek out gravel roads on the GT but have come across quite a few stretches of it, at a dozen or so kilometres length.
I’d hate to think the bottom of the gauges were filling up with mud.

Fogging may be the lesser of the issues??

FWIW
Here’s a photo from Hitchcocks’ parts book:

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Reply #57 on: January 29, 2023, 12:39:19 am
Why are the yellow stickers there?

The first time I saw them I thought they were simply quality control check dots that you see elsewhere.

So now we know they’re covering up holes, it would appear their purpose is to keep debris out.

 Perhaps they are also intended to keep rain and water out.

For those who have removed the stickers, are your gauges taking in water when you’re riding through rain, or even just washing the bike?
Are they taking in dust?

I rarely ride in the rain but have been caught in heavy cloudbursts from time to time.
Similarly, I don’t seek out gravel roads on the GT but have come across quite a few stretches of it, at a dozen or so kilometres length.
I’d hate to think the bottom of the gauges were filling up with mud.

Fogging may be the lesser of the issues??

FWIW
Here’s a photo from Hitchcocks’ parts book:
My opinion is Yes, they are to keep debris and dust out and maybe even insects. These gauges are born in a different factory and if not in a "Clean Room" at least a clean room.

Then they travel to the RE assembly plant with stops along the way til mounted. Then the whole bike travels again, often across an ocean.
Me, I just poked holes in my yellow dots to make them into a screen, so to speak. If one used the bike in a place and circumstance that made rain entry is a worry ... I'm sure you could find a EZ way to shield them and still let the air migrate..
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Reply #58 on: January 29, 2023, 12:51:17 am
Yet there are no yellow stickers on my gauges, nor are there any holes, as is the case with several others here…
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Reply #59 on: January 29, 2023, 01:21:15 am
Just went out to have another look, took a torch this time. There is NO yellow stickers but there is those white bar code stickers. Without taking the gauges off i dont know if there is any holes, next time i take the screen off ill take the gauges off and look for any holes. btw my gauges fog up in cold weather. To be honest it really doesn't bother me.


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Reply #60 on: January 29, 2023, 01:36:19 am
Yet there are no yellow stickers on my gauges, nor are there any holes, as is the case with several others here…

Thus far then, there appears to be two types of gauges
 - early models with holes covered by stickers
 - later models with no holes or stickers.
Change over between 2021 and 2022??

(If you ever needed to order a new set Jess, be sure to clarify which version you need.)

The discussion now, therefore, is for those of us with holes and stickers.
NVDucati has pierced the stickers rather than remove them.
That is the easiest solution by far, thank you.

The gauges on my Feb 2019 build bike had never fogged in the first couple of years, until the bike was at a service and left out in the rain.
Ever since then, only the speedo gauge fogs and not the tacho.
If it ever gets to the stage where it bothers me, I’ll pierce the speedo’s yellow sticker.
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Reply #61 on: January 29, 2023, 04:23:07 am
let us know if it works
Will do once Spring time is here
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Reply #62 on: January 29, 2023, 12:38:43 pm
I took off the stickers and put a little electrical tape in front of the holes - not over them - to stop water being pushed in. No issues in that regard.

A little fogging can return on a bright dry day preceded by seriously damp Irish weather,  but it's much less than before and dissipates quickly.


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Reply #63 on: January 29, 2023, 06:34:42 pm
1/22 build date, no stickers, my gauges fog up in certain weather conditions.


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Reply #64 on: January 29, 2023, 06:51:49 pm
1/22 build date, no stickers, my gauges fog up in certain weather conditions.
Curious, assuming that you have loosened the mounting bolts, do yours have the holes?
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Reply #65 on: January 29, 2023, 07:01:19 pm
 My Rolex submariner has the same problem, and it has no yellow stickers. Any idea?  8)
PS: Built autumn 21, no stickers.


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Reply #66 on: January 29, 2023, 07:12:14 pm
Curious, assuming that you have loosened the mounting bolts, do yours have the holes?


I just took off the cluster. There are stickers over those holes, they're just black.


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Reply #67 on: January 29, 2023, 07:21:36 pm
almost positive i dont have stickers either when i installed my dart pirahna screen. will re-check though. this has to got to be the most boring/interesting thread about this bike yet!


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Reply #68 on: January 29, 2023, 08:48:21 pm
My Rolex submariner has the same problem, and it has no yellow stickers. Any idea?  8)
PS: Built autumn 21, no stickers.

Yes it needs the seals replacing and the watch evacuated on assembly.

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Reply #69 on: January 29, 2023, 09:26:02 pm
My Rolex submariner has the same problem, and it has no yellow stickers. Any idea?  8)
PS: Built autumn 21, no stickers.

Yeah its a fake ;)


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Reply #70 on: January 29, 2023, 09:42:38 pm
Black stickers eh, that explains quite a bit.
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Reply #71 on: January 29, 2023, 10:06:55 pm
My Rolex submariner has the same problem, and it has no yellow stickers. Any idea?  8)
PS: Built autumn 21, no stickers.
And my VP Commodore. Build date 1991. It used to have a MCM sticker but taking it off didn't help. Just got chopped more often.
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Reply #72 on: January 31, 2023, 01:14:05 am
So, last Friday night, I finally brought my 650 home from my Mom's garage. About 65 miles, along a coastal highway. It was getting dark, and since my headlight plug fell off a few minutes into my ride, causing me to turn around and assess for a long period of time before I figured out what had happened, I got on the road quite a bit later than I had planned.

As such, it got very chilly along parts of the ride along the coast in a non-populated area, probably just below 50 degrees F. My gauges started fogging at that point, and the fogging went away when I got inland into a city, and could sense the temps climbing back up to about 55.

So, I'm going to call fogging an internal temperature gauge. When mine fog, I know it's 50 degrees or colder.

Pretty smart, Royal Enfield! Most bikes have to employee complicated electronics to do that!
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Reply #73 on: January 31, 2023, 01:40:06 am
So, last Friday night, I finally brought my 650 home from my Mom's garage. About 65 miles, along a coastal highway. It was getting dark, and since my headlight plug fell off a few minutes into my ride, causing me to turn around and assess for a long period of time before I figured out what had happened, I got on the road quite a bit later than I had planned.

As such, it got very chilly along parts of the ride along the coast in a non-populated area, probably just below 50 degrees F. My gauges started fogging at that point, and the fogging went away when I got inland into a city, and could sense the temps climbing back up to about 55.

So, I'm going to call fogging an internal temperature gauge. When mine fog, I know it's 50 degrees or colder.

Pretty smart, Royal Enfield! Most bikes have to employee complicated electronics to do that!

Problem is the internal fogging eventually causes the instruments to fail

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Reply #74 on: January 31, 2023, 04:47:11 pm
As long as it's as good as 80s Honda technology, it will be fine. The gauges on my Nighthawk used to fog up just as much.
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Reply #75 on: January 31, 2023, 06:55:26 pm
I’m thinking that environment and where you store your bike may be the bigger factors in fogging as people report fogging with and without the stickers.
 In the year & half I’ve owned my GT I have never had any fogging. I live in north Texas about 300 miles from the coast, so humidity is not a big issue.
 I also keep my bike in my garage when its not in use.
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Reply #76 on: January 31, 2023, 07:01:25 pm
It seems the bikes with yellow stickers have 10 more hp.  The sticker is how the factory could simply but subtly differentiate them. :)
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Reply #77 on: January 31, 2023, 07:49:17 pm
Finally got out a flashlight and looked up under there. I have yellow stickers!
10 more horsepower, cool!
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Reply #78 on: January 31, 2023, 10:23:18 pm
I’m thinking that environment and where you store your bike may be the bigger factors in fogging as people report fogging with and without the stickers.
 In the year & half I’ve owned my GT I have never had any fogging. I live in north Texas about 300 miles from the coast, so humidity is not a big issue.
 I also keep my bike in my garage when its not in use.
Quite possible, I had the stickers but removed them because of fogging and have had no fogging since.
I live within 1km of the coast
I don’t ride in the rain (car)
Bike is stored in a garage
I wash the bike with a freezer bag covering the dash, then damp sponge for the dials.
It can get quite humid here particularly after rain.


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Reply #79 on: January 31, 2023, 11:20:32 pm
Quite possible, I had the stickers but removed them because of fogging and have had no fogging since.
I wonder that an indian bike has such problems. In most areas of India the Monsun is like a permanent flood, and it takes months. Its so humid and wet that your clothes do not dry anymore.


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Reply #80 on: February 01, 2023, 12:39:08 am
I wonder that an indian bike has such problems. In most areas of India the Monsun is like a permanent flood, and it takes months. Its so humid and wet that your clothes do not dry anymore.
True they do have monsoons, not so here but sometimes it’s impossible to dry clothes here without an electric dryer.
I’m in Queensland, 100km south of the Tropic of Capricorn


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Reply #81 on: February 01, 2023, 01:27:51 am
I wonder that an indian bike has such problems. In most areas of India the Monsun is like a permanent flood, and it takes months. Its so humid and wet that your clothes do not dry anymore.

They have the same issue in India.

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Reply #82 on: February 01, 2023, 01:28:45 am
As long as it's as good as 80s Honda technology, it will be fine. The gauges on my Nighthawk used to fog up just as much.

Did you 80's Honda have an LCD display?

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