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I love the Interceptor, these bikes were built to a price point and i think given the budget they smashed it out of the park.

Still, there is no reason to slowly replace some of the cheaper parts with ones of our choosing.  What has stood out to you on the bike that you would like to replace that you just can't find in the aftermarket yet?  Either at all or with a product you like.

For me its just a few things right now:

-Speedo/Tach mounting bracket.  It's some cheaply stamped piece of metal that's really curvy and odd looking.  Would love to replace it with something CNC machined and more angular.

-Fenders.  Not a fan of the plastic.  Would love to find ones in metal that are similar shape.  The Hitchcocks ones are too angular/cut at their edges, i would like to find the rounded edges on a set of metal fenders.

-Rear-sets that include shift/brake levers.   Still haven't seen a set that i like.  I like the factory pegs, but the rear sets them selves and shift levers are very wobbly.  I'm not looking for "racing" rearsets, just something higher quality that keep the factory dimensions and maybe even reuse the factory pegs.  I want rubber on my pegs/shifter/brake, not hard metal.

What are those perfect parts that you are still looking for and waiting for? 
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Simple bolt-in fork cartridges with caps that don't look too high tech.  Split the damping adjustments between the two sides and the kit should be under $800.  It doesn't need to be race-ready, just a proper cartridge with shim valves.


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Simple bolt-in fork cartridges with caps that don't look too high tech.  Split the damping adjustments between the two sides and the kit should be under $800.  It doesn't need to be race-ready, just a proper cartridge with shim valves.
You are describing the Andreani Misano Cartridge Kit. $600 You'd have to paint the fork tops flat black to hide them some.
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A simple way to swap out the clumsy, keyed gas cap for a nice alloy Monza style.


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A simple way to swap out the clumsy, keyed gas cap for a nice alloy Monza style.

THIS!!!  I will so buy a nice gas cap when i see one available.  The stock unit is heavy as hell and feels clumsy.
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THIS!!!  I will so buy a nice gas cap when i see one available.  The stock unit is heavy as hell and feels clumsy.
Search the forum here. There is some complete information.
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Rick, I fitted a Monza cap as did Breaker Express and Wachuco.  There's a thread;  https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?topic=29941.0
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You are describing the Andreani Misano Cartridge Kit. $600 You'd have to paint the fork tops flat black to hide them some.
This is the USA importer. Super knowledgeable and super helpful.
https://shop.fastbikeindustries.com/t/andreani-misano-cartridge-kit

Thanks.  Yes, for me those caps look out of place.  Also their instructions online seemed to indicate that some machining was required.  Is that not the case?


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Thanks.  Yes, for me those caps look out of place.  Also their instructions online seemed to indicate that some machining was required.  Is that not the case?
Machining is too strong a term. You do have to cut off a lip which then allows you to remove the lower-most internal spacers from each fork tube. I used a die grinder but any cut off wheel or disc sander will do. No marksmanship required.
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The aftermarket luggage situation is pretty bad, either wildly overpriced or wildly impractical.
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The aftermarket luggage situation is pretty bad, either wildly overpriced or wildly impractical.

That'd be my choice. I like traditional Craven bags, but the ones for the Interceptor just don't cut it.


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The aftermarket luggage situation is pretty bad, either wildly overpriced or wildly impractical.

The upswept exhaust is a little too upswept. It costs more than I wanted to pay for HB C-mounts and bags. They are also small. The Givi bags are huge and too high for me.

The best looking exhaust to me are Diablo headers and slip on, that look like they'd solve that problem, but the rear footpads are also a pain point for bags.
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I'd go for an upgrade Brembo caliper swap.  Maybe there is one, but my reading uncovered only tales of speculation, trial, and mostly error.  If the "BYBRE" caliper is proprietary, then I'm scratching my head wondering why create totally new engineering and tooling when they could re-purpose an already established production-ready unit. 

Everything old is new again, so to speak.
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An elegant solution to eliminate the stock taillight bracket/fender bracket/wiring rat's nest. Something that still allows the use of an old school round brake light, mounted vertically, but also hides the wires and perhaps a second bracket to just hold the fender on and not do double or triple duty.
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I'd go for an upgrade Brembo caliper swap.  Maybe there is one, but my reading uncovered only tales of speculation, trial, and mostly error.  If the "BYBRE" caliper is proprietary, then I'm scratching my head wondering why create totally new engineering and tooling when they could re-purpose an already established production-ready unit. 

Everything old is new again, so to speak.

Just throwing this out there but has anyone looked at any of the other aftermarket calipers out there? Everyone seems to be fixated on Brembo, but Wilwood, Nissan, PM and Tokico all come to mind as options. I've no plans to ever swap mine out but if I was I'd look at all of them before making a decision.


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Just throwing this out there but has anyone looked at any of the other aftermarket calipers out there? Everyone seems to be fixated on Brembo, but Wilwood, Nissan, PM and Tokico all come to mind as options. I've no plans to ever swap mine out but if I was I'd look at all of them before making a decision.

That's a good point. . . I would've hoped to see more discussion about possible direct swaps due to the concerns over the recall situation.  Instead there's 18 pages of oil filter speculation.  ( Not that there's anything wrong with that." - Seinfeld )
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Without a doubt the ' intake covers'.
Not sure quite why they call them that anyway as they don't cover the air intake.
Right out there on show but brushed aluminium looks really cheap and nasty.
Hate to say it but look at the Triumphs.
Never heard anyone else get upset about them so maybe it's just me and a bit of a personal thing.


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I love the Interceptor, these bikes were built to a price point and i think given the budget they smashed it out of the park.

Still, there is no reason to slowly replace some of the cheaper parts with ones of our choosing.  What has stood out to you on the bike that you would like to replace that you just can't find in the aftermarket yet?  Either at all or with a product you like.

For me its just a few things right now:

-Speedo/Tach mounting bracket.  It's some cheaply stamped piece of metal that's really curvy and odd looking.  Would love to replace it with something CNC machined and more angular.

-Fenders.  Not a fan of the plastic.  Would love to find ones in metal that are similar shape.  The Hitchcocks ones are too angular/cut at their edges, i would like to find the rounded edges on a set of metal fenders.

-Rear-sets that include shift/brake levers.   Still haven't seen a set that i like.  I like the factory pegs, but the rear sets them selves and shift levers are very wobbly.  I'm not looking for "racing" rearsets, just something higher quality that keep the factory dimensions and maybe even reuse the factory pegs.  I want rubber on my pegs/shifter/brake, not hard metal.

What are those perfect parts that you are still looking for and waiting for?

I’m with you on the mounting bracket.  I’d like something old school in which the tach and Speedo disappear altogether.  I’m also waiting on the right shortie kit with a short but not too short fender.  I hate that taillight bracket that’s welded onto the frame.  Eventually I’ll chop the subframe and install an upturned tail loop with a taillight that mounts directly to the (stainless steel) fender.


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Without a doubt the ' intake covers'.
Not sure quite why they call them that anyway as they don't cover the air intake.
Right out there on show but brushed aluminium looks really cheap and nasty.
Hate to say it but look at the Triumphs.
Never heard anyone else get upset about them so maybe it's just me and a bit of a personal thing.

Fake carbs are better to you?





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Just throwing this out there but has anyone looked at any of the other aftermarket calipers out there? Everyone seems to be fixated on Brembo, but Wilwood, Nissan, PM and Tokico all come to mind as options. I've no plans to ever swap mine out but if I was I'd look at all of them before making a decision.
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I now have proof of concept on my front brake upgrade, and now that it is test fitted, the next step is to machine the calliper adapter bracket.  The bracket is a bit tricky to get right the first time, so I am going to get the front end assembly 3D scanned and the bracket modeled by Global Dimensions in Bangkok. 

There is a bit of fettling, and a few bespoke parts in order to make this work due to calliper to spoke clearance, and overall clearance due to moving the rotor outboard:
 Rotor spacer
 ABS ring
 ABS sensor spacer
 Calliper adapter

You will need to buy:
330mm rotor
Brembo P4 x 65mm axial mount calliper
Brembo RCS 15mm master cylinder   


I may make a few sets if anyone is interested, and the only machine work you will need to do is insert M10 Heli-coils in fork leg calliper mount tab.
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Fake carbs are better to you?



IMO those fake Monoblocks are one of the worst styling decisions ever made. It kept me from buying one.


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See this post:

Seems like overkill, but like granddad always said "everyman knows his own business best." For sure it should stop on a dime and return 9 cents change.


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Just throwing this out there but has anyone looked at any of the other aftermarket calipers out there? Everyone seems to be fixated on Brembo, but Wilwood, Nissan, PM and Tokico all come to mind as options. I've no plans to ever swap mine out but if I was I'd look at all of them before making a decision.

Don’t Beringer make a complete kit caliber, disc, master cylinder?
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IMO those fake Monoblocks are one of the worst styling decisions ever made. It kept me from buying one.

The fake carbs look better with the optional fake throttle and choke cables.  :D


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The fake carbs look better with the optional fake throttle and choke cables.  :D

Maybe if it leaked a bit out of a fake tickler I'd like them better.  ;)


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Don’t Beringer make a complete kit caliber, disc, master cylinder?
They do but the issue with all the "bolt on" solutions is will the inside of the 4pot caliper clear the spokes.
   There are different paths to gain the clearance. Wider triple tree sets, offset rotors, hub spacer for the rotor ...
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A simple way to swap out the clumsy, keyed gas cap for a nice alloy Monza style.

This.

I really wish they had gone with a hinged flush mount, but a Monza style would be ok too. Anything but the current POS.


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I love the Interceptor, these bikes were built to a price point and i think given the budget they smashed it out of the park.

Still, there is no reason to slowly replace some of the cheaper parts with ones of our choosing.  What has stood out to you on the bike that you would like to replace that you just can't find in the aftermarket yet?  Either at all or with a product you like.

For me its just a few things right now:

-Speedo/Tach mounting bracket.  It's some cheaply stamped piece of metal that's really curvy and odd looking.  Would love to replace it with something CNC machined and more angular.

-Fenders.  Not a fan of the plastic.  Would love to find ones in metal that are similar shape.  The Hitchcocks ones are too angular/cut at their edges, i would like to find the rounded edges on a set of metal fenders.

-Rear-sets that include shift/brake levers.   Still haven't seen a set that i like.  I like the factory pegs, but the rear sets them selves and shift levers are very wobbly.  I'm not looking for "racing" rearsets, just something higher quality that keep the factory dimensions and maybe even reuse the factory pegs.  I want rubber on my pegs/shifter/brake, not hard metal.

What are those perfect parts that you are still looking for and waiting for?


Iam with you on the speedo bracket,  the whole dash has an odd angle and is way to high .

I lowered mine by 1 inch but still
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-Fenders.  Not a fan of the plastic.  Would love to find ones in metal that are similar shape.  The Hitchcocks ones are too angular/cut at their edges, i would like to find the rounded edges on a set of metal fenders.

You should look at the BAAK metal fenders.
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I'd go for an upgrade Brembo caliper swap.  Maybe there is one, but my reading uncovered only tales of speculation, trial, and mostly error.  If the "BYBRE" caliper is proprietary, then I'm scratching my head wondering why create totally new engineering and tooling when they could re-purpose an already established production-ready unit. 

Everything old is new again, so to speak.

I now have this figured out and proof of concept fitted to my bike.  330mm rotor and Brembo P4 Four piston axial mount calliper.  I already have a Brembo RCS15 master cylinder, which will be required in a calliper upgrade
Working on the calliper bracket, but got a bit sidetracked on a fork brace design, and hope to get back to the brake mod soon.
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Just throwing this out there but has anyone looked at any of the other aftermarket calipers out there? Everyone seems to be fixated on Brembo, but Wilwood, Nissan, PM and Tokico all come to mind as options. I've no plans to ever swap mine out but if I was I'd look at all of them before making a decision.

The problem is inboard clearance at the spokes, and common with all opposed piston callipers.  A larger diameter rotor and skinny supermoto calliper from Brembo or Beringer is a solution, but big bucks - I think Beringer is 15-1700 GBP for the kit
I have proof of concept now using a Brembo P4

Wider yokes is the other solution
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An Interceptor footrest bracket that moved the footrests, etc, an inch closer to the centerline of the bike.  The room is there.  I am tired of banging my shins on the too far outboard footrest ends.  Where's my hacksaw?

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Without a doubt the ' intake covers'.
Not sure quite why they call them that anyway as they don't cover the air intake.
Right out there on show but brushed aluminium looks really cheap and nasty.
Hate to say it but look at the Triumphs.
Never heard anyone else get upset about them so maybe it's just me and a bit of a personal thing.

BAAK makes a nice set of Aluminum covers for the intake in either black or brushed finishes.

https://www.baakmotocyclettes.com/en/interceptor-continental-gt-650/3410-17314-intake-covers-for-royal-enfield-650-interceptor-continental-gt#/822-finition-brushed
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I would like a seat that looks like stock but is actually comfortable.
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BAAK makes a nice set of Aluminum covers for the intake in either black or brushed finishes.

https://www.baakmotocyclettes.com/en/interceptor-continental-gt-650/3410-17314-intake-covers-for-royal-enfield-650-interceptor-continental-gt#/822-finition-brushed

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BAAK makes a nice set of Aluminum covers for the intake in either black or brushed finishes.

https://www.baakmotocyclettes.com/en/interceptor-continental-gt-650/3410-17314-intake-covers-for-royal-enfield-650-interceptor-continental-gt#/822-finition-brushed

Personally I think way better than those bland BAAK covers the standard ones with a quick polish look fine.


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I would like a seat that looks like stock but is actually comfortable.
That's where one of the various custom foam recipes with the stock seat cover comes into play.
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It’s funny that I read all these seat/ posture /suspension etc complaints. I must be one of the fortunate few that the GT is a perfect fit for. If anything, I’d like to change the inclination of the clipons, but that’s a little gripe.
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It’s funny that I read all these seat/ posture /suspension etc complaints. I must be one of the fortunate few that the GT is a perfect fit for. If anything, I’d like to change the inclination of the clipons, but that’s a little gripe.

Agree on both points, the seat is as good as most of my previous bikes and the bars should be pivoted towards the rear slightly. The h/bar locating pin and steel "yoke to bar hanger" makes what should be a simple job a little more interesting.


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I'd like to see some high quality non-glare lenses for the clocks.


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I'd like to see some high quality non-glare lenses for the clocks.

Yes!
Also, replacements for the chrome bezel / ring and center pivot pin of the clock needles.

Those things kick back a burning glare when the sun is at certain angles that makes it virtually impossible to read the gauges, not to mention the distraction and irritation.

Is it really rocket science to keep the faux-chrome look to a minimum for glare control?

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In the past I've used photographers removable dulling spray but it not a good solution.  The glare with a high and slightly behind sun is annoying as can be.


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In the past I've used photographers removable dulling spray but it not a good solution.  The glare with a high and slightly behind sun is annoying as can be.

I'm tempted to mask the gauges off and hit the bezel (is that the right word? wtf is bezel) with flat black Krylon, but I'd probably booger it up bad.
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I'm tempted to mask the gauges off and hit the bezel (is that the right word? wtf is bezel) with flat black Krylon, but I'd probably booger it up bad.
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The problem is inboard clearance at the spokes, and common with all opposed piston callipers.  A larger diameter rotor and skinny supermoto calliper from Brembo or Beringer is a solution, but big bucks - I think Beringer is 15-1700 GBP for the kit
I have proof of concept now using a Brembo P4

Wider yokes is the other solution

That is EXACTLY what Triumph did to add Brembo 4 pots to the front of the 2019 Street Twins and street Scramblers.


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I'm tempted to mask the gauges off and hit the bezel (is that the right word? wtf is bezel) with flat black Krylon, but I'd probably booger it up bad.

Plasti-Dip spray bombs. Rubberised paint is designed to be removable. People paint wheels, grill badges etc with it.

You can also get a Matt paint film which would reduce the glare off the ‘glass’.

If you guys are suffering, imagine what the guys with chrome tanks are going through  ;) ;)


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Chrome tank????  That would be me :-\

I generally ride with a tank bag so I'm not been bothered by that but the instruments are vexing.  I'm gonna figure something out.


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No issues with sun reflection here, there isn't any sun.

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Chrome tank????  That would be me :-\

I generally ride with a tank bag so I'm not been bothered by that but the instruments are vexing.  I'm gonna figure something out.
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That is EXACTLY what Triumph did to add Brembo 4 pots to the front of the 2019 Street Twins and street Scramblers.

Not that difficult for me to make them, but I think that some will balk at the cost as not only new yokes and dealing with the stem, but fork brace, axle, speedo drive, axle spacer,.......... One can however use the stock rotor
With a bit of machine work, it can be done with the stock yokes, and I hope to get back to designing the last piece soon
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Can’t say I’ve ever noticed but I always wear polarised sunnies when I ride.

I figured the wide black stripe on top of the Glitter & Dust tank was to keep the glare out of the riders' eyes.
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I switched my Interceptor to GP shift because there were no levers that did it available that I could find.   It's really a simple job on the Interceptor being it uses linkage to transfer the lever movement to the shift lever on the transmission shaft.   The GT is impossible to switch unless you'd remove the counter-shaft sprocket cover or go internally into the cases.

On the Interceptor lever the linkage tab was cut off then welded on the underside...which worked except the geometry wasn't right and on downshifts the lever could go over-center.   I cut a thin wedge at the lever pivot then welded it together which lifted the tip about 2" and solved the geometry problem.   Shifts great now and I really do love the GP pattern.   My other bike (SV1000S Suzuki) has it also so no 'relearning' involved...GP is 'normal' to me and I always wonder just WHY them's that make the choices for us all went with the now standard pattern?   GP makes a lot more sense just riding around easily let alone on the track where you might be leaned over scraping peg and need to upshift where getting ones toe under the lever is impossible.

TEC offers an adjustable lever machined from billet aluminum and they could VERY easily machine the linkage tab on the bottom and offer an over the counter GP lever setup.


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I'm waiting for exactly the right tail hoop and short fender for my Interceptor.  I want a hoop that loops upward a bit and is long enough to accomodate the stock seat should I have a passenger.  I also want to mount my Motone Eldorado taillight directly to the fender.  I considered the Baak short leather seat kit but the fender is too short and there's be no practical way to use the stock seat after you chop the frame and install the Baak hoop.  I'll probably have to have something custom made, which will be more expensive but have the added benefit of setting my Interceptor apart from everybody else's.  I may end up using the Hitchcock's stainless rear fender and bobbing it.


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I'm waiting for exactly the right tail hoop and short fender for my Interceptor.  I want a hoop that loops upward a bit and is long enough to accomodate the stock seat should I have a passenger.  I also want to mount my Motone Eldorado taillight directly to the fender.  I considered the Baak short leather seat kit but the fender is too short and there's be no practical way to use the stock seat after you chop the frame and install the Baak hoop.  I'll probably have to have something custom made, which will be more expensive but have the added benefit of setting my Interceptor apart from everybody else's.  I may end up using the Hitchcock's stainless rear fender and bobbing it.
This might be a starting place, Amazon, "cafe racer rear hoop"
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=cafe+racer+rear+hoop&crid=3KCCWUZTWWVVT&sprefix=cafe+racer+rear%2Caps%2C862&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_15
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This might be a starting place, Amazon, "cafe racer rear hoop"
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=cafe+racer+rear+hoop&crid=3KCCWUZTWWVVT&sprefix=cafe+racer+rear%2Caps%2C862&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_15

Thanks NVD.  I'll probably end up going with one of those and welding it exactly where I want it.  Hopefully I'll be able to pay the welder out of what I save on the hoop, or spend it on an ARC welder.  I'm developing a whole new set of skills from tinkering with this bike.  (By the way, your photos have me yearning for a motorcycle tour of California--something I did regularly when I lived on the west coast--though I'm not sure I want to ride my Interceptor all the way from Brooklyn.)


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Thanks NVD.  I'll probably end up going with one of those and welding it exactly where I want it.  Hopefully I'll be able to pay the welder out of what I save on the hoop, or spend it on an ARC welder.  I'm developing a whole new set of skills from tinkering with this bike.  (By the way, your photos have me yearning for a motorcycle tour of California--something I did regularly when I lived on the west coast--though I'm not sure I want to ride my Interceptor all the way from Brooklyn.)
Yeah, new skills, big and small, are fun and good for the brain. As regards the welding, you can consider a slip-fit tubing or pipe inside each piece and through bolted. Sorta like an internal splint.
     And Yes, you should come out West for some riding. Maybe ship the bike to Colorado and join it there.
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Reply #58 on: September 30, 2021, 03:40:46 pm
I don't know what this part is called "shift actuator?" but it looks really cheap, like someone whittled it from a clump of scrap metal.

I've seen these made aftermarket for Triumphs, and if someone made a nice, high quality CNC machined replacement i'd snap it up in a hot second.

Call me a crazy details person....
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Reply #59 on: September 30, 2021, 05:52:56 pm
I don't know what this part is called "shift actuator?" but it looks really cheap, like someone whittled it from a clump of scrap metal.

I've seen these made aftermarket for Triumphs, and if someone made a nice, high quality CNC machined replacement i'd snap it up in a hot second.

Call me a crazy details person....
I can see your point. I think the only sane path, even for a "crazy person", is to buff it out to match the engine cover and swap out the pinch bolt for a bright allen head unit.
But if you find a billet something please let us know.
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I don't know what this part is called "shift actuator?" but it looks really cheap, like someone whittled it from a clump of scrap metal.

You want to look at the rocker arms on the 500cc single cylinder engines then. They look like they've been chewed out by someone with their teeth.
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