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Title: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 09, 2018, 03:20:39 am
Well, I was recording some riding footage with the GoPro on the handle bar mount. I stopped by the grocers for a few items. When I came out, GoPro was gone. All within a couple minutes!! If there's one thing I hate, it's a thief.
I don't know what I'm gonna do about the ride to Motorcycles of Dulles in Dulles Virginia at the end of the month. There's no way I can save up by then. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: wildbill on October 09, 2018, 03:32:15 am
yep! nothing worse than a thief. when caught if they cut the hands off all thieves it would make it more difficult for them to steal again...LOL after-all pretty hard to hop down the road and holding the items with the other foot!
now back to your predicament. why not buy a cheap gitup get2 camera used or second hand from ebay for a fraction of the gopro price and it will do the job just as well. in fact all my yotube videos are on that camera. probably cost you about $130
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 09, 2018, 03:56:35 am
I'll guess start saving. I've been working on a shoe string budget with a sprinkle of luck as it is.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Richard230 on October 09, 2018, 01:59:25 pm
I bet used GoPros are pretty cheap.  ;)
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: ace.cafe on October 09, 2018, 04:09:56 pm
Sorry to hear.

Last December I came out of the house and my red 2014 Continental GT 535 was gone. Never got it back.
 :(
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: heloego on October 09, 2018, 06:17:08 pm
I'm all for cutting off the hands.
So flame me. >:(
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bert Remington on October 09, 2018, 06:39:56 pm
Since its looking like my RE won't be back on the road until next summer, would you like to borrow my Garmin VIRB Elite for your trip?  I chose the Garmin over the GoPro because it has GPS, accelerometer and altimeter that I wanted for track, etc performance data.  The data track is recorded in parallel with the MP4 track.  Garmin provides a free editing program for Windows that combines both tracks to provide an instrumented "dashboard" overlaid on the video.  Very cool.  Works great for road courses, Bonneville, etc.  Not so good for dragstrips -- 6 seconds go by too quick. :)  BTW that's 1/8 not 1/4 mile track -- my friends ain't all that rich either.

I'll include the parts to mount it on the RE, a 64GB microSD, two batteries, 110V and 12V chargers, and cables.  The mount is a snap-in and the camera fits easily into a jacket pocket when its not on the mount.

BTW the GBs go by really quickly so make sure your laptop has plenty of storage -- at least 256GB free if you're going to be on the road for several days.

PS I'm with ace.cafe.  I had a 2001 Integra Type R for three weeks before it was stolen 30 feet from my front door.  I'm pretty sure it was towed and is now south of the border so I ain't ever gonna see it again.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 09, 2018, 07:18:43 pm
Since its looking like my RE won't be back on the road until next summer, would you like to borrow my Garmin VIRB Elite for your trip?

    Bert, I really do appreciate the offer but if something were to happen to it (fall off, God forbid an accident, lost, stolen, just stop working while in my possession, etc.) I would feel horrible for one and more importantly
 I wouldn't be able to pay you for it. I've always been the nice guy. Trusting of people, give the shirt off my back to help someone else my whole life. More often than not it has come back to bite me in the rump. I appreciate the
offer, but I think I'll sell some things and get another camera. Already sold my fiddle this morning to the pawn shop, and I have a few more things around here.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Carlsberg Wordsworth on October 09, 2018, 08:45:19 pm
Feel sorry for you Bmadd34.

I had my bicycle nicked from outside the local shop whilst I popped inside. I didn't lock it so partly to blame. Think I 'might' have saw it once a couple of years later but no proof.

I'd probably have sold it when there were plenty about but I had a TZR125 that also went some years earlier. Would be worth a smal fortune now. That wasn't locked either. You can't trust a quiet neighbourhood I guess. As you can see, there seems to be a pattern here do i always lock the Enfield with at least something in the hope to at least slow a thief down.   

Those githubs seem to get some good reviews and appear fairly cheap so you might not need to save long. Shame you had to pawn the fiddle too.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Richard230 on October 09, 2018, 10:48:04 pm
I had a draftsman coworker years ago who lived in San Francisco. He always garaged his bicycle but one day someone took an axe and chopped down his garage door to steal it.  :o  A while later he purchased my 1983 Kawasaki GPz305 and parked it in the street in front of his home in the hope that if it was stolen at least he wouldn't have to replace his garage door. Unfortunately, he got his wish and the motorcycle was stolen a couple of weeks later.  >:( After that he moved out of town to Sacramento to open an acupuncture business.  ???
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: wildbill on October 10, 2018, 12:26:34 am
yep! I like the cutting off the hands idea as it would serve two purposes.
1. it would stop them from stealing
2. long term it would improve their vision...LOL
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 10, 2018, 06:23:36 pm
Okay, did some calling around and found a GoPro Hero 5 in a Pawn shop next town over. Traded my Martin for it and a decent Takamine so I wouldn't be without a guitar. I've never had anything handed to me in life.
I grew up literally DIRT poor in the mountains. Hell, we didn't get a refrigerator until I was around 10 yrs old or so and didn't live in a place with Air conditioning until I joined the ARMY. LOL, Basic Training was like a
Damn summer camp to me; regular meals, warm bed, heat and air, I was already used to hard work, being outside, and thanks to an extremely abusive upbringing, someone yelling at me was nothing, lol. I have literally
worked my body harder than I should have to scrimp and scratch my way to where I am today. College education (Thanks G.I. Bill), own my home and acreage, my kids have everything I didn't and no credit cards in my
wallet. So for some low life common piece of human excrement to steal what I sacrificed and saved to purchase just chaps my ass to no end. Probably some junky piece of trash that's gonna trade it for $20 worth of dope.
All I can say is he's lucky I didn't catch him taking it. Period. Well, I'll get off my soap box now, lol.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: mattsz on October 10, 2018, 10:51:09 pm
Okay, did some calling around and found a GoPro Hero 5 in a Pawn shop next town over.

You don't by any chance have a way of checking to see if that's your GoPro, do you?
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 10, 2018, 11:48:12 pm
You don't by any chance have a way of checking to see if that's your GoPro, do you?

No, I checked the serial number.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: mattsz on October 11, 2018, 12:23:17 pm
Oh well... sorry that happened.

Years ago my car was broken into - the only thing in the car was an open box of old home-grown audio cassettes.  The thieve(s) grabbed it - why I'll never understand.  I don't know if they ever bothered to listen to them, but they were all folk music recordings, most of them not even English language songs, so I'm sure they were disappointed.  One of those tapes was a recording of a concert performance in which my wife and I shared the stage with another well-known artist - irreplaceable.  Shoulda made a copy, I guess...

People do suck...
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: heloego on October 11, 2018, 02:47:52 pm
This episode reminds me of a story told me by a very close friend many years ago.
His sister took a job in New York just before a garbage strike. Things were so bad the garbage was piled high in the streets, and of course stunk big time making everyone's lives miserable.
She and her roomie came up with a brilliant idea.
They gift-wrapped their garbage and left it in the car every night, one of the doors unlocked.
Next morning the "gifts" were gone.  ;)
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 11, 2018, 03:18:40 pm
This episode reminds me of a story told me by a very close friend many years ago.
His sister took a job in New York just before a garbage strike. Things were so bad the garbage was piled high in the streets, and of course stunk big time making everyone's lives miserable.
She and her roomie came up with a brilliant idea.
They gift-wrapped their garbage and left it in the car every night, one of the doors unlocked.
Next morning the "gifts" were gone.  ;)
   That's hilarious!!
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: johno on October 12, 2018, 08:07:22 am
Sorry to hear of your theft incident.
I never understand why some delinquents think it's ok to take stuff that not theirs whether it be something small or an entire bike/vehicle.


Any way, I use one of these
https://www.nextbase.com/en-gb/dash-cams/ride-motorcycle-bikecam/
 I am quite lucky in having 4 Motrorcycles, this camera is quite streamlined and is easy to move from one bike to another, records for up to around 6 hours continuously (30 min battery life so needs a hard wire) and also is a dashcam so locks the recording in case of an accident. The wifi allows the footage to be downloaded onto a phone or an officer of the laws device as evidence!
Its so useful, and looks to be part of the furniture,I forget it's fitted and do exactly as you have done and leave it on the bike when parked.......
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bilgemaster on October 12, 2018, 02:03:14 pm
I'm all for cutting off the hands.
So flame me. >:(

I don't know if I'd go full-on Sharia Law mutilation, but a few pillories in the park might just slow down the light fingered...

(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/secularspectrum/files/2016/11/John_Waller_in_pillory.jpg)

As it happens, what took my '57 Zuendapp Bella scooter (https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php/topic,26658.msg305103.html#msg305103) off the road, which ultimately led to its quarter century hibernation, was a pair of "ghettard" rocket scientists stealing it one July 4th as I was watching the fireworks near the Capitol. I got it back, but not before the Doofus Duo had taken a brick to the dash in a back alley to try to get it started--This display of engineering finesse was all witnessed by nearby residents.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Richard230 on October 12, 2018, 02:14:28 pm
Twice during the past 5 years, I have had a black teenage boy come up to me and say: "Give me your motorcycle" (my Triumph Bonneville, not the RE). When I reply: "No, you will have to go buy your own. Would you like me to tell you where the closest dealer is located?"  Both times I received a strange puzzled look upon hearing my reply and then the boy walked away.  I found both experiences very strange and am still wondering what was going on.   ???
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: wildbill on October 12, 2018, 02:21:40 pm
I agree....always someone out there looking for a free ride!
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bilgemaster on October 12, 2018, 03:04:34 pm
Twice during the past 5 years, I have had a black teenage boy come up to me and say: "Give me your motorcycle" (my Triumph Bonneville, not the RE). When I reply: "No, you will have to go buy your own. Would you like me to tell you where the closest dealer is located?"  Both times I received a strange puzzled look upon hearing my replya huge waste  and then the boy walked away.  I found both experiences very strange and am still wondering what was going on.   ???

Well, at very least there's a huge waste of oxygen going on. With a bit of luck, they'll pull that shit some fine day on some nervous concealed-carry type who'll just put a round in their brainpans, dislodging whatever dead insects are in there, and we'll all breathe just a little easier.

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(with unintentional ungrammatical irony)
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 12, 2018, 08:15:27 pm
Well, at very least there's a huge waste of oxygen going on. With a bit of luck, they'll pull that shit some fine day on some concealed-carry type who'll just put a round in their brainpans, dislodging whatever dead insects are in there, and we'll all breathe just a little easier.


    I always carry when I ride, always have. .38 fits nicely.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: heloego on October 13, 2018, 12:19:58 am
My  Ruger SR9c rest very comfortably in my tool box if I need to leave the bike for any reason. Otherwise it's holstered wherever I ride.  :)
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: wildbill on October 13, 2018, 12:24:52 am
I should be ridd'in in the good old usa -and pack'in power ;)
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: heloego on October 13, 2018, 12:30:08 am
   Depends on the State you're in.   I keep my gun on my thigh so it's nice and visible and my Bill of Sale handy in case I get any flak from the justice minions in New Mexico, Arizona, or Colorado. No real worries yet, but I have been stopped by local police a couple times asking why I carry.
   I usually respond "This is Albuquerque. Why do you think I carry?". They just nod and send me on my way.  ;)
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 13, 2018, 12:42:20 am
I should be ridd'in in the good old usa -and pack'in power ;)
    I thought about installing a leather rifle scabbard on the right fork and riding with my double barrel 12, lol.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bilgemaster on October 15, 2018, 03:50:34 am
Hmmm...Beginning to see a trend here. But, I should probably leave the smoke wagon at home. I mean, do we really need  all those folks slumped over their steering wheels horn blaring 'cause they didn't signal that lane change while texting or were playing Katy Perry too loudly? I think not. Still, I am pretty sure that woodchuck out on Route 624 was looking at me funny...disrespecting me...making me feel unsafe. Maybe I should  pop a cap in his furry ass! Guess I'll just wait for the voices in my head to let me know what to do.

(http://rs1357.pbsrc.com/albums/q741/Kenna_Lea/dramaticlookgopher_zps95fc1270.gif~c200)
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: 9fingers on November 17, 2018, 03:50:12 pm
Thining one of these might be perfect for you Bmadd...............
Just don't tell anyone I said so.
9fingers
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: tooseevee on November 17, 2018, 04:07:07 pm
But there are
Well, at very least there's a huge waste of oxygen going on.

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(with unintentional ungrammatical irony)

        :) :) :) Exactly. Huge contraction error there. But they are so common now; why even comment. And Grocer's Apostrophes are ubiquitous.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: rtillery02 on November 17, 2018, 04:21:38 pm
Hands off would certainly fix the problem,  but severing just the THUMBS would probably be easier & quicker...I should see my therapist soon >:( ;D
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: 9fingers on November 17, 2018, 05:55:21 pm
Hands off would certainly fix the problem,  but severing just the THUMBS would probably be easier & quicker...I should see my therapist soon >:( ;D

Hey, hey! Watch the severed thumb comments..........why do you think my name is 9fingers?
8fingersandathumb
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: mattsz on November 17, 2018, 11:14:32 pm
....why do you think my name is 9fingers?

Because "8fingersandathumb" takes too long to type?
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: 9fingers on November 18, 2018, 02:55:09 am
Because "8fingersandathumb" takes too long to type?

That's it! And it is not quite as catchy.........
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: addict1 on November 18, 2018, 03:38:00 am
Damn! Sorry to hear about your gear loss mate! I think with all the freedoms bikes offer us, it does leave us vulnerable at the same time.
I use my bike almost exclusively for touring which is I why I ended up going to all the trouble of building a set of secure, lockable panniers. Now, when I stop somewhere to explore, I can drop my cam and navigator in one for [relative] peace of mind.
One thing I won't do is carry my firearm, makes would be villains nervous and do silly things things like shoot you (at least where I come from). I carry a neat, powerful pepper spray close to me which can (and has) been useful.

Regarding cameras, have you tried a helmet mount? I find it much more stable and I never leave my helmet on the bike.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: GlennF on November 19, 2018, 03:22:24 am
I had a draftsman coworker years ago who lived in San Francisco. He always garaged his bicycle but one day someone took an axe and chopped down his garage door to steal it.  :o  A while later he purchased my 1983 Kawasaki GPz305 and parked it in the street in front of his home in the hope that if it was stolen at least he wouldn't have to replace his garage door. Unfortunately, he got his wish and the motorcycle was stolen a couple of weeks later.  >:( After that he moved out of town to Sacramento to open an acupuncture business.  ???

I had a friend that chained his bike to a very large set of cast/wrought iron gates in an inner city park in Sydney only to come back to find both gates and bike gone.  He got a lot of ribbing from friends and coworker about how his bike was barely worth stealing and the thieves were probably after the gate.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bmadd34 on November 19, 2018, 10:19:35 am
Damn! Sorry to hear about your gear loss mate! I think with all the freedoms bikes offer us, it does leave us vulnerable at the same time.
I use my bike almost exclusively for touring which is I why I ended up going to all the trouble of building a set of secure, lockable panniers. Now, when I stop somewhere to explore, I can drop my cam and navigator in one for [relative] peace of mind.
One thing I won't do is carry my firearm, makes would be villains nervous and do silly things things like shoot you (at least where I come from). I carry a neat, powerful pepper spray close to me which can (and has) been useful.

Regarding cameras, have you tried a helmet mount? I find it much more stable and I never leave my helmet on the bike.

I never really trusted those sticky 3M camera mounts.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bilgemaster on November 19, 2018, 05:00:24 pm
I never really trusted those sticky 3M camera mounts.

Yup! That's why I attach a little lanyard from the camera around my half-helm's chinstrap. Unfortunately, there's no external mike option on my 1st generation Ion AirPro, so every ride video seems to have the same soundtrack as John Glenn reentering the atmosphere in 'The Right Stuff'. I've tried a couple of roughshod wind noise reduction  remedies, but it seems there's nothing for it but to train a big hairy hamster to hug the end of the camera for dear life to fur up that mike hole. Having a problem finding a suitable helmet for him though, and the droppings are staining my Belstaff's right shoulder. For what it's worth (and that ain't much), you can see my tests so far at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL1sEUVEcQTVDkr_zw4zqNg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL1sEUVEcQTVDkr_zw4zqNg).  Of these, this one's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP1iTsBd11o) probably the most viewable.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: tooseevee on November 19, 2018, 07:34:29 pm
For what it's worth (and that ain't much), you can see my tests so far at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL1sEUVEcQTVDkr_zw4zqNg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL1sEUVEcQTVDkr_zw4zqNg).  Of these, this one's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP1iTsBd11o) probably the most viewable.

           Three good, long videos. Must have taken days for them to upload. It's a nice little camera, but as you say, sound sux.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: mike_bike_kite on November 20, 2018, 10:44:16 pm
Here in London (UK) I swapped from riding my Vespa to the Enfield because the thieves had taken to stealing Vespas all the time. It got so bad that you could get surrounded at the traffic lights by armed youths on stolen scoots demanding your scoot. I figured that they'd never get the hang of riding an Enfield so swapped to that. So far so lucky ...
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bilgemaster on November 26, 2018, 11:40:54 pm
           Three good, long videos. Must have taken days for them to upload. It's a nice little camera, but as you say, sound sux.

Thanx! Actually those videos uploaded fairly quickly while I was doing other things--taking just a couple-few minutes at most direct from the camera via an older-style USB port on an elderly 12 year old Alienware laptop. Absolutely no complaints there. Though I am still having a challenge getting the hamster aroused enough to really "engage" with the camera's external mike. And when it does go well all that muffled squeaking doesn't mean something needs a good oiling...

(http://animalblog.a.n.pic.centerblog.net/ke9f1rim.gif)
Installation of Noise Reduction System
Part One: Finding the Right Fragrance
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Narada on December 11, 2018, 06:13:51 pm
Police in London are employing a new tactic... I'm glad to see they're finally fighting back!

https://advrider.com/london-police-knocking-moto-thieves-off-bikes/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=12_11_2018
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Bilgemaster on December 31, 2018, 03:13:36 pm
Caught this image of one of London Police's new Ramming Squad vehicles on another website. Is it real? Maybe not. But it should  be:

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/292de80553bf777694d3aa3ef81a5208d4fc90ae5cead336f16ae3cca5e02482.jpg)


(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BogusGrandIndigowingedparrot-small.gif)
"Ramming Speeeeed!"
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Keef Sparrow on September 02, 2020, 10:23:21 pm
My last bike (Triumph 955i Daytona) was stolen and I thought my biking days were over as it seemed likely if I got another bike that would get stolen too. Then I figured - maybe if if got something so slow (and low perceived value) that no thieving toerag would be interested.... So now I have a Bullet. A dealer told me not many REs get stolen. So far so good....

Here in London (UK) I swapped from riding my Vespa to the Enfield because the thieves had taken to stealing Vespas all the time. It got so bad that you could get surrounded at the traffic lights by armed youths on stolen scoots demanding your scoot. I figured that they'd never get the hang of riding an Enfield so swapped to that. So far so lucky ...
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: GlennF on September 03, 2020, 12:29:08 am
Probably not a lot of demand for a stolen Bullet nor is it really joy ride material. The 650 interceptor however may be a different matter.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Nitrowing on September 03, 2020, 12:56:46 am
No one's ever tried to steal my 420kg GoldWing  :o
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Keef Sparrow on September 03, 2020, 09:04:34 pm
That's is exactly why I chose a Bullet Trials. Apparently the Enfield 650 twins were the biggest selling motorcycles in the UK last year (which must be giving Triumph a lot of food for thought) so there must be a lot of demand for them - probably also making them more attractive to thieves. I think the dealers can sell 650s quicker than India can build them.
Probably not a lot of demand for a stolen Bullet nor is it really joy ride material. The 650 interceptor however may be a different matter.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Keef Sparrow on September 03, 2020, 09:07:12 pm
No one's ever tried to steal my 420kg GoldWing  :o
Yes, I believe the Goldwing and Triumph Rocket 3s are two of the least stolen motorcycles - purely on account of their weight making them so difficult to pick up and load into the back of a van.
Title: Re: Thieves
Post by: Morgan65 on September 05, 2020, 03:00:05 pm
I’m a long distance rider and I never leave anything on the bike unattended that I’m not willing to lose. If the bike isn’t with in eye shot I lock the the forks and at lest two discs. Everything else is in locking bags or it goes with me. The only place I ever felt like I could leave things on the bike was Newfoundland and Labrador Canada.