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Reply #1 on: December 14, 2020, 05:15:01 pm
That kinda takes a lot of the fun out of it, I prefer the personal touch.  Nothing like the rush of danger and the budget friendly nature of a step ladder, a Bic lighter, and a can of Lysol,  .... or better yet:

https://youtu.be/k2sC29_XR88?t=73


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Reply #2 on: December 14, 2020, 05:20:42 pm
No draw up a list of the people you don't want to be allowed anywhere near that first one, or the parts to make one.

It literally takes arson to a whole new level.

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Reply #3 on: December 14, 2020, 05:28:28 pm
That's a neat idea, I know of a place where those might sell very well... ;D

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Reply #4 on: December 14, 2020, 07:19:03 pm

It literally takes arson to a whole new level.


 8) 8)
I think I'd be on your list  ;D
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Reply #5 on: December 14, 2020, 07:27:40 pm
I think we're looking at the next innovation in warfare, boys.

Check out this prescient old short story : Watchbird by Robert Sheckley
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29579/29579-h/29579-h.htm
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Reply #6 on: December 14, 2020, 08:35:31 pm
I'm surprised PETA hasn't complained about cruelty to animals...…wait for it .


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Reply #7 on: December 14, 2020, 10:23:18 pm
I think we're looking at the next innovation in warfare, boys.

Check out this prescient old short story : Watchbird by Robert Sheckley
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29579/29579-h/29579-h.htm
Excellent tale  8)
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Reply #8 on: December 14, 2020, 10:33:17 pm
The spooky part is that it's mostly off the shelf tech now. The Canadians proposed a "flying defibrillator" that could deliver shocks to remote patients. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-40360164

Plan "B" would be to add a couple extended antenna use it as police backup on foot chases. Would be some bad news to become collateral damage, eh? That particular Watchbird might stimulate a booming market in Faraday Suit hoodies though... ;)
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Reply #9 on: December 14, 2020, 10:42:11 pm
More dystopia, just what we all need.

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Reply #10 on: December 14, 2020, 10:58:37 pm
As soon as you have throttle by wire in your bike, you will have ASC and anti wheely, it's just a bit of code in the computer.

As soon as you have a drone with a cam you can attach a grenade to it. If you live in a civilised place you can assume your neighbor is not going to drop it in your garden. In a place I don't want to mention ;) I would not be so sure of it. 
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Reply #11 on: December 15, 2020, 12:25:31 am
@ #10: Where ya' been?  Used for 3 years on now, almost ancient history. We are living in the future, mein freund....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/14/isis-drones-are-attacking-u-s-troops-and-disrupting-airstrikes-in-raqqa-officials-say/

My Bullet has always had throttle by wire and anti-wheelie capability. Maybe you should upgrade that 535GT with a 28mm Mikcarb and a nice 5:1 CR potmetal piston and join us futuristas! ;D
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Reply #12 on: June 03, 2022, 07:46:20 pm
Coming to  classroom near you: Watchbird. The Tech already exists. Since when ever did ethics ever stand in the way of profit in the USA?
 ( Watchbird by Robert Sheckley )  http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29579/29579-h/29579-h.htm
This also solves some touchy problems for Congress. You don't need to modify out appetite for weapons and you don't need to ask unsettling questions about why an all-white PD stood off for 40 minutes waiting for the Border Patrol SWAT team to sort out an all-Hispanic school shooting.

The demand for gun range Skeet Shooting practice and shotgun sports in general is about to skyrocket amongst our Alt-Reich brethren. Imagine a swarm of these above the 06 January 2021 crowd, chances are nil that it would have progressed to what it did. Facial recognition tech is commonplace, with "Watchbird" abetted by it the GO signal in virtually assured in most scenarios. Having a human operator is mostly unnecessary, but if they did it would be a sough after job position. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment ){The Milgram experiment(s) on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. They measured the willingness of study participants, men in the age range of 20 to 50 from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience. Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a "learner". These fake electric shocks gradually increased to levels that would have been fatal had they been real.}

Axon stock is trading at about 1/2 of its Feb & Aug 2021 high of $200, tell me with a straight face that our "Legally & Ethically Profiteering Congress" won't snap it up and then enact Watchbirds use.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61685117
US shootings: Firm unveils plans for Taser-armed drones

The US company behind Tasers plans to produce stun gun-armed drones it claims will help stop school shootings.
The Arizona-based company, Axon, says that the high-tech solution is necessary amid a "fruitless" debate on gun policy in the US.
The announcement, however, earned a stern rebuke from the company's own ethics board.
Nearly 30 school shootings have taken place in the US this year.
Axon - formerly known as Taser International - said that it has formally begun developing a miniature, lightweight Taser that can be deployed on a drone or robot, as well as "targeting algorithms" to assist operators safety aim the device.
According to Axon, all use-of-force decisions will be made by an authenticated and authorised human operator "who has agreed to take on legal and moral responsibility for any action that takes place".
The announcement Thursday came amid a renewed debate over gun control following the 24 May shooting of 21 people at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas.
Axon's founder and chief executive Rick Smith - a father of 12-year-olds twins - told the BBC that he decided to go public with the project after last week's events in Texas.
"Politicians in the US have not been effective in dealing with this," he said, adding that suggestions that teachers be armed are "a very risky thing to do that will lead to more accidents than solutions".
The project also includes integrated camera networks that allow schools and businesses to share real-time access to censors with local public safety agencies.
However, after considering a limited pilot of the project a year ago - which was only to be used by police - the company's own Artificial Intelligence ethics advisory board voted against the idea moving forward.
In its own statement, the ethics board said that Axon's announcement asserting that civilian-operated drones and robots could be deployed to schools has given it "considerable pause".
"Reasonable minds can differ on the merits of police-controlled Taser-equipped drones - our own board disagreed internally - but we unanimously are concerned with the process Axon has employed regarding this idea of drones in school classrooms," the board said.
Mr Smith said that the question of who would operate the drones remains unanswered, with possibilities ranging from police departments, federal agencies or people at Axon itself.
One possibility could be that the drones would be flown with "encrypted keys" that are centrally managed and accessible only to authenticated users.
Despite the board's statement, Mr Smith told BBC that a "proof-of-concept" model could be ready within a year, with field trials possible in two years, pending regulatory approvals.
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Reply #13 on: June 04, 2022, 05:34:30 pm

As soon as you have a drone with a cam you can attach a grenade to it.

You do not really need a drone, just do the well known Mossad trick of putting explosives in a cell phone battery rigged to detonate when they answer their phone.


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Reply #14 on: June 04, 2022, 10:46:37 pm
Well at least using that method you know you will blow off the head of the right person, l also heard via the grape vine they use poisoned soap in hotels, on the subject of that drone that will probably make a large version and use it to start fires for military reasons you can see what’s coming there.


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Reply #15 on: December 01, 2022, 03:47:32 am
Something special for R230 to worry about... :o  ;)
With the total amount of crazy on tap, maybe this will de-stress the cops a bit.
Lots of situations where an armed remote control box would tip the scales for the home team a bit.
Some schizoid holed up in a house with a deer rifle/kalashnikov has to make some important choices when one of these rolls up to the door. It takes away the "winning" aspect from the nut job when there's no one to shoot at. An implacable box with a pound of C4 coming at you should induce some serious soul searching in anyone worth saving.


https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63816454
San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
San Francisco's ruling Board of Supervisors has voted to let the city's police use robots that can kill.
The measure permits police to deploy robots equipped with explosives in extreme circumstances.
Dr Catherine Connolly, from the group Stop Killer Robots, said the move was a "slippery slope" that could distance humans from killing.
The city's police - the SFPD - told the BBC they do not currently operate any robots equipped with lethal force.
They said though that there may be future scenarios in which lethal force could be used by a robot.
A spokesperson for the police said "robots could potentially be equipped with explosive charges to breach fortified structures containing violent, armed, or dangerous subjects".
They also said robots could be used to "incapacitate, or disorient violent, armed, or dangerous suspects who pose a risk of loss of life".
Advocates for the measure said it would only be used in extreme situations.
Opponents, however, say the authority could lead to further militarisation of the police force.
The measure passed, with an amendment on Tuesday specifying that officers could only use robots wielding deadly force after employing alternative de-escalation tactics.
The board also stipulated that only a limited number of high-ranking officers could authorise its use.
This type of lethal robot is already in use in other parts of the United States.
In 2016, police in Dallas, Texas, used a robot armed with C-4 explosive to kill a sniper who had killed two officers and injured several more.
The SFPD said the department does not currently own any robots outfitted with lethal force, but said the measure might be needed in the future.
"No policy can anticipate every conceivable situation or exceptional circumstance which officers may face. The SFPD must be prepared, and have the ability, to respond proportionally," a spokesperson said.
The federal government has long dispensed military grade equipment, camouflage uniforms, bayonets and armoured vehicles to help local law enforcement.
But a California state law passed this year now requires city police forces to inventory military-grade equipment and seek approval for their use.
Dr Catherine Connolly, from the campaign group Stop Killer Robots, said the move could "make humans more and more distant from the use of force and the consequences of the use of force".
She also said the measure could make it "easier to make decisions to use lethal force in the first place".
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Reply #16 on: December 01, 2022, 02:34:00 pm
That SFPD Robocop story was all over the local TV news yesterday. Frankly, I was really surprised that the proposal was approved by the very liberal "progressive" SF Board of Supervisors. But I guess all of the crime, both violent and property theft and damage, is finally getting to them. The residential rats and businesses are leaving the city in droves, decreasing the city's tax base and visitors and tourists are staying away in noticeable numbers. I haven't been in SF for the past three years. I just can't deal with the stress of crazy street people wandering randomly across the streets in front of traffic, tents all over the sidewalks making pedestrians walk into the street to get past them (what ever happened to handicap access laws?) and having no legal and safe (is there any such thing) place to park your vehicle on public streets without paying big money for the privilege. Right now the Board of Sups is very concerned about the golden goose of taxes starting to dry up a bit, even though there is hardly anything left to tax or fine in town. That is the bottom line in SF. They need lots of money to advance their "progressive" agenda and seem to be willing to stop cutting criminals as much slack as they used to in order to make people feel safer to live in and visit the city so that they can spend their money there.

BTW, I was really surprised to hear that the SFPD already has 17 criminal-chasing robots. Maybe they think that things are even worse in SF than I realize. Or maybe the Trump administration sent them a big Christmas gift a few years ago?  ;)

In even more positive news: It was also reported yesterday that for the next two years the City would be painting over graffiti on building walls using four new employees that they have hired to do that job. In the past the owner of the buildings being tagged were required to immediately remove or paint over the graffiti at their cost or be fined. Now, for the next two years, the city crew will paint over the messes within 72 hours of receiving a graffiti complaint from the property owner - or so they say. Yesterday on the TV news they showed the Mayor repainting a wall using a bucket of paint and a long pole - likely so that she didn't have to get too close to the walls, which are typically used as a toilet by the homeless.  ::)

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Reply #17 on: December 01, 2022, 07:37:50 pm
" Or maybe the Trump administration sent them a big Christmas gift a few years ago?  ;) "

Seems unlikely seeing how petty & vindictive #45 is. I'm not sure why finding a piece of flat ground, making communal toilet/shower facilities, using 20' Conex/Seatrain containers for shelter and having a communal cafeteria isn't being done. The Japanese just use large sections of pipe as shelters, Conex's are cheap and way better. Police or National Guard reservists could circulate and keep the total amount of stupid to a minimum. A bus could take those able out & back daily to paid civil project work locations like the CCC/WPA did years ago. The "Free Range Crazies" plan isn't working out so well for anyone. As far as I'm concerned, let the real nut jobs grow weed & vegetables next to their Conex, provide them food, a toilet, appropriate psychoactive meds as needed and keep them separate from the rest of us. The bootstrappable folks will avail themselves temporarily of the free housing, site security and jobs project income to soon move along or reintegrate. The rest will barter weed amongst themselves.

Years back the wife & I spent a couple days in a posh L.A. 5-star hotel. Entering & exiting we had to pass thru a remarkably "Soylent Green" looking entourage of homeless relieving themselves in the shrubbery. I think we can do better. Pretending isn't action. Creating & tolerating a cast of human racoons isn't productive, and I believe the racoons really resent it.

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Reply #18 on: December 02, 2022, 04:23:32 am


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Reply #19 on: December 02, 2022, 06:27:40 pm
DARPA and Tesla just to name two have self driving vehicles. Autonomous military vehicles (Pentagon $$$) have existed since the 1970's at least. The X-37B has been going on "repair" missions for nearly 20 years. Battlefield tech doesn't need human intervention or much discernment when picking targets, but you'd best have your IFF dialed in. Tanks are problematic on a battlefield as you REALLY need to control the airspace to have a survivable military armored ground force. IF you did control the airspace, as long as you didn't ever get stuck, throw a track or have to refuel too often you'd be "OK". I'm thinking drones, cruise missiles and HGV's will do the deed of remote destruction without risking personnel with parents that vote.

But most certainly in 2022 the tech to fully automate tanks or similar vehicles exists and can be readily applied. Actually doing so is a question for military strategists.

Here's a report of a Libyan autonomous HK drone from 2020. I'm guessing the Pentagon didn't miss this report and just possibly has made even better ones with a black budget program. With luck we'll never know.
https://bigthink.com/the-present/lethal-autonomous-weapon-systems/

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