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on: January 15, 2021, 10:34:40 am
https://youtu.be/nFLfhfFmXz8

Makina Stalion 250cc, ....bit underpowered though otherwise almost identical look.  :o


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Reply #1 on: January 15, 2021, 12:25:49 pm
That's not the worst looking bike I've ever seen. Unless I'm mistaken, a whole range of their bikes from 50cc singles to 650cc twins are sold in Europe with the "Mash" nameplate: http://www.mash-motors.fr/en/

Here in the States a proposed vehicle named a "Mash" is something very different--some sort of hot rod 3-wheeled cross between a Ford Model A and a V-Twin Harley: https://mashmotorco.com/. Apparently they're taking orders...

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Reply #2 on: January 16, 2021, 03:44:39 pm
Mash - looks potentially fun. The website shows one parked on a city street with a small white rock preventing it from rolling away, so I assume that means more development time is needed. Their slogan "LIKE NOTHING YOU’VE DRIVEN BEFORE" seems a bit ambivalent.

Another nascent vehicle - Elio - the three wheel car that's been "coming next year" for a while now.
https://www.eliomotors.com/

Slogan for three wheel vehicles in general - "Tumbling like a football has never been such fun!"
 
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Reply #3 on: January 16, 2021, 04:14:55 pm
The Elio looks like a less fun version of the pre-war Morgan JAP or Matchless vee twin engine 3 wheeler.

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Reply #4 on: January 16, 2021, 04:20:12 pm
It's supposed to be a fuel sipping commuter, but has never made the jump to actual production. You're always welcome to put down a deposit though.

I am amazed that there isn't a Kit Car version, maybe using a Mitsubishi Mirage or other lo-buck front wheel drive powerplant. A do-it-yourself 60 MPG Electra Glide with A/C & rain protection, that would be an improvement!

That 250cc Mash is similar to the CSC SG250:
https://cscmotorcycles.com/2020-sg250-cafe-racer-pre-order-deposit/
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Reply #5 on: January 16, 2021, 04:59:03 pm
Is that still a carburetor on the Mash 250? Almost tempted to see if I can get one!  ;D

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Reply #6 on: January 16, 2021, 07:15:30 pm
The SG250 is available in the USA & is carbureted; 5 speed, 17 HP.

The Mash seems to have 2 variants:
The "Black 7" and "250"
it's currently a 5 speed, 17 HP, EFI machine; older versions were carbureted.
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Reply #7 on: January 16, 2021, 07:40:49 pm
The Mash 650 single 4 valve SOHC with some 40hp @ 6000rpm has something to it too. Shouldn't take too much work to make the RE650 owners cry.  :D


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Reply #8 on: January 16, 2021, 09:23:11 pm
This one, the Dirt Track 650?

http://www.mash-motors.fr/en/motos-650-cc/45274-mash-dirt-track-650-cc.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0uQdPPcHeU

ENGINE :
Single cylinder: 4T, SOHC, 4 valves
Displacement : 647 cc
Max Power : 40 hp à 6000 rpm (29,4 Kw)
Injection: electronic DELPHI
Ignition: electronic
Starter: electric
Torque : 4,6 Mkg à 4500 rpm
Compression: 8.8 à 1
Gearbox: 5 speed
FRAME :
Front fork: hydraulic inverted Ø 41 mm
Braking: ABS disconnectable
Front brake: disk Ø 320 mm, 4 pistons caliper,
Rear brake: disk Ø 240 mm, 2 pistons caliper,
Front tyre : 120/80-18
Rear tyre : 130/80-18
SIZE :
L x W x h : 2080 x 890 x 1170 mm
Seat Height : 780 mm
Dry weight : 163 kg
Fuel tank : 13 liters
WARRANTY :
2 years spare parts & labour, Unlimited mileage


https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/mash-x-ride-classic-650/
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Reply #9 on: January 16, 2021, 09:40:34 pm
This is the first I've heard of Mash, but they look interesting. Is there anyone here that's ever ridden one?


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Reply #10 on: January 16, 2021, 09:42:39 pm
This one, the Dirt Track 650?

http://www.mash-motors.fr/en/motos-650-cc/45274-mash-dirt-track-650-cc.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0uQdPPcHeU

ENGINE :
Single cylinder: 4T, SOHC, 4 valves
Displacement : 647 cc
Max Power : 40 hp à 6000 rpm (29,4 Kw)
Injection: electronic DELPHI
Ignition: electronic
Starter: electric
Torque : 4,6 Mkg à 4500 rpm
Compression: 8.8 à 1
Gearbox: 5 speed
FRAME :
Front fork: hydraulic inverted Ø 41 mm
Braking: ABS disconnectable
Front brake: disk Ø 320 mm, 4 pistons caliper,
Rear brake: disk Ø 240 mm, 2 pistons caliper,
Front tyre : 120/80-18
Rear tyre : 130/80-18
SIZE :
L x W x h : 2080 x 890 x 1170 mm
Seat Height : 780 mm
Dry weight : 163 kg
Fuel tank : 13 liters
WARRANTY :
2 years spare parts & labour, Unlimited mileage


https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/mash-x-ride-classic-650/

Reminds me of the old XT/TT 500 Yamaha, I'll bet that thing goes like stink. I'd love to try one.


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Reply #11 on: January 16, 2021, 10:01:20 pm
Or the flat track inspired Mash 650. Yup it's got something, at 5000€ it definitely competitive.


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Reply #12 on: January 16, 2021, 11:37:15 pm
Or the flat track inspired Mash 650. Yup it's got something, at 5000€ it definitely competitive.

That engine sure looks like a Rotax 500 single to me.
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Reply #13 on: January 17, 2021, 02:29:52 am
Retred Honda tech! In the USA the "Genuine Scooter Company" and "Cleveland Cycle Werks" carry a 400 Honda single based thumper and are looking at soon importing the 650 Honda based machine also. The already available in the USA G400C is a Shineray product.   - ACR -

https://clevelandcyclewerks.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_CycleWerks

http://www.genuinescooters.com/
http://www.genuinescooters.com/genuine_news/2019/G400C-Motorcycle-Review.pdf
>>> They knew their customers wanted retro styling and that it was going to be made in Asia, to get that combination of rugged durability and affordable pricing. They found it with Shineray, a Chinese manufacturer that, back in the day, worked with Honda to develop and build the Asian market CB400SS. Classic looks, Japanese-engineered durability: Ding! Ding! Genuine
 knew it had a winner.<<<


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https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/mash/x-ride-classic-650/2020/

Mash are a French concern – and yes, they’re named after the TV show of the '70s/'80s. In business for a decade, their bikes are actually built by Shineray, a huge Chinese company that makes a very comfortable living from building machines based around existing designs.

For the Mash X-Ride 650 Classic this means the single-cylinder engine that used to power Honda’s legendary NX650 Dominator. There’s more connection to old-school 'giant trailies' too, as there’s an unmistakable and completely intentional hint of Yamaha XT500 to the retro bike’s look. If you still pine for the time of dirt-based thumpers the Mash seems like just the ticket, especially with its very modest £4999 asking. 


http://www.mash-motors.fr/revendeurs
England, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Holland, Portugal

https://adventure-motorcycling.com/2015/05/04/the-chinese-adventure-travel-bikes-are-coming/

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Reply #14 on: January 17, 2021, 10:33:56 am
Retred Honda tech! In the USA the "Genuine Scooter Company" and "Cleveland Cycle Werks" carry a 400 Honda single based thumper and are looking at soon importing the 650 Honda based machine also. The already available in the USA G400C is a Shineray product.   - ACR -

https://clevelandcyclewerks.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_CycleWerks

http://www.genuinescooters.com/
http://www.genuinescooters.com/genuine_news/2019/G400C-Motorcycle-Review.pdf
>>> They knew their customers wanted retro styling and that it was going to be made in Asia, to get that combination of rugged durability and affordable pricing. They found it with Shineray, a Chinese manufacturer that, back in the day, worked with Honda to develop and build the Asian market CB400SS. Classic looks, Japanese-engineered durability: Ding! Ding! Genuine
 knew it had a winner.<<<


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https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/mash/x-ride-classic-650/2020/

Mash are a French concern – and yes, they’re named after the TV show of the '70s/'80s. In business for a decade, their bikes are actually built by Shineray, a huge Chinese company that makes a very comfortable living from building machines based around existing designs.

For the Mash X-Ride 650 Classic this means the single-cylinder engine that used to power Honda’s legendary NX650 Dominator. There’s more connection to old-school 'giant trailies' too, as there’s an unmistakable and completely intentional hint of Yamaha XT500 to the retro bike’s look. If you still pine for the time of dirt-based thumpers the Mash seems like just the ticket, especially with its very modest £4999 asking. 


http://www.mash-motors.fr/revendeurs
England, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Holland, Portugal

https://adventure-motorcycling.com/2015/05/04/the-chinese-adventure-travel-bikes-are-coming/

xxxx

My 535, 2 valve pushrod, only air cooled single is still faster though.  ;)   :D