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Title: English dual seat
Post by: saint45 on July 01, 2012, 10:46:12 pm
Hey all...after springing for the old style Lycett seats...I must say I absolutely cant stand them. Anyone know if the Enfield GT or English Dual seat fit on the UCE bikes? Thx
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: gremlin on July 02, 2012, 02:26:20 pm
At first I was unhappy with the "Old-style" all-springs saddle on my Bullet.  However, after adding some height to the rear two mounting brackets and tripping the seat slightly forward (rear high) I noticed a dramatic improvement in comfort.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: saint45 on July 02, 2012, 05:30:23 pm
Gremlin-
Thanks but that one of the things I dislike most about it.
Thx for reply.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: motorat on July 02, 2012, 09:52:03 pm
if you want to try out the c5 seat i can meet you  and you can take mine for a ride.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: saint45 on July 03, 2012, 04:33:12 am
Thats VERY nice of you, but I wont be up that way for sometime now. I live in the east bay. What year is your C5? Hows it been treating you? ;D
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: motorat on July 03, 2012, 04:43:03 am
2012. so far so good.
i will be replacing the chain with an o-ring either wednesday or saturday.

i have a 34 mile commute and took the c5 3 times and the seat was fine, it is about 45 minutes each way.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: GlennF on July 03, 2012, 05:21:44 am
I thought the C5 came with an O-ring chain ?
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: motorat on July 03, 2012, 04:49:49 pm
it says it does but it doesn't.....at least not mine.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: The_Rigger on July 03, 2012, 06:17:11 pm
Thats VERY nice of you, but I wont be up that way for sometime now. I live in the east bay.

East Bay of where?

If you really dislike the Lysette and want to trade for the OEM C5 solo seat, I'd do an even-up swap; the geography of my "Southern Hemisphere" doesn't particuarly agree with the factory seat and I want to try a Lysette.

I'm in Michigan.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: The_Rigger on July 03, 2012, 06:17:34 pm
I thought the C5 came with an O-ring chain ?

Nope...
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: saint45 on July 04, 2012, 07:06:31 pm
East Bay California, Sorry. gonna sell the lycett seats if you are interested. im going to a bench of some sort. Dont like solo's even tho they look incredible. Let me know if your interested. Give me some time tho, they are on my bike still, LOL.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: The_Rigger on July 04, 2012, 07:31:59 pm
Let me know if your interested. Give me some time tho, they are on my bike still, LOL.

Oh, I am definitely interested. And I'm not financially ready right now anyway so take your time.  When you get your bench saddle sorted & done, let me know.

Is this the larger Lycette solo or the smaller one?
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: rav on July 04, 2012, 07:34:14 pm
Can you post some pics?
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: The_Rigger on June 18, 2013, 07:18:57 pm
Ressurecting the Zombie Thread:

Mr. saint45? Are you still here?  We tried putting your old Lycett on Fiona yesterday; the one you sold me last summer...  We seem to be missing a part; the base that the pilot saddle rear springs bolt to, which then connects to the bike frame.  No way to finish installing the seat without it, and it's definitely not in the box.  Might you still have it somewhere?

For that matter, does anyone have one of these that they'd like to sell? I'm up a tree without a paddle without it...
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: jartist on June 18, 2013, 09:02:02 pm
You can try PM'ing.  I think the default settings are for the forum program to send an email alert for the PM so he'd get it unless he's shut down the account.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: wildbill on June 19, 2013, 01:39:31 am
both my c5's came with the 'o' ring chains and both chains were no good! lol
as for the c5's seat -after about 50 miles i have to get off and rest the rump myself. that seat is pretty firm -reminds me of my youth :D
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: D the D on June 19, 2013, 05:28:44 am
... im going to a bench of some sort. Dont like solo's even tho they look incredible.
+1  Solo's look great, but a bench seat is more comfortable on longer rides.  The flatter the better.  You can shift about on it for and aft.  Not so with a solo that cups your behind or has nowhere to shift to.  Seems counter to what I'd expect, but that's my experience. 
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: The_Rigger on June 20, 2013, 01:02:08 am
I'm going to try the solo with a gel pad stuck in between the cover and the springs; seems that's met with success before, as I read the fora...

Found out today that there's an extra bracket needed to mount the Lycett copy on a C5, that isn't listed in the catalog. I ordered it today from Go Moto; a RE dealer here in Minneapolis, hopefully it'll be here before I leave town this weekend.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: jartist on June 20, 2013, 03:23:02 am
I found that the wire hook that's inserted in the springs need to be re-bent to even out the spring rate and then it's really comfortable.  The re-bent wires will break, however, so I replaced all those wires with the heaviest finish nails that would fit in the springs.  It's a little trouble but it's been two years and 12,000 miles of reliable comfort and is holding up well.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: jartist on June 20, 2013, 03:36:06 am
Looking at my picture I just remembered that I used a countersink bit to clean up holes in the comb piece so that the hooks that are part of the spring wont get worn by the sharp factory edge.

To clarify, one end of the spring is hooked. Don't bend that side. That hook will hold up if you clean up the edges of the comb centerpiece and you don't alter it. The other side of the spring is brittle wire. Replace the wire with a nail, bend the hook in the nail to desired spring tension and bouncy-bouncy you're butt down the road as happy as if you were riding a john deere tractor or a Brough superior!
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: AussieDave on June 21, 2013, 09:55:57 am
i had a lycett style seat that i got from the importer (at a price)and made it more comfortable by cutting up a yoga matt from bunnings and placing two layers between the springs and the cover. it worked great. have spent 8 Hours in the saddle without a sore butt. i also found i had to modify the mounting system to get the height\angle perfect. this involved some l shaped brackets where the springs join the seat  and lowering the pivot point at the front.  not the work of an artisan but i got away with it. yoga matt. yeah!
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: The_Rigger on June 22, 2013, 09:33:23 pm
Kudos to Tim at NFG (yeah, I wrote that) and John at Go Moto, here in Minneapolis!  I now have the extra bracket needed to mount that Lycett seat on my C5, using the OEM seat springs and not the springs that came with the solo Lycett. When I get home on the 2nd, I'll swap the gel-padded Lycett for the OEM plank, put the Vista Cruise and the Hagon shocks on, and that should just about get Fiona all prepped for the run up to Sault Ste. Marie.

I'll try to shoot a couple of photos of the bracket & install job, if anyone's curious about it.
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: hortoncode3 on June 24, 2013, 01:51:51 pm
Perhaps a gel pad is in order. I hear good things ...I think they look like hell, but hey, it's under your ass so who's gonna see it? I found my "banana" bench seat on my 09 G5 finally softened up after a few miles even though it's still no La-z-boy.. Plus, it's not a bad idea to get off every couple hours anyway
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: AussieDave on June 24, 2013, 03:41:16 pm
you guys must be soft ,i ride 300k each way to visit my eldest daughter all the time and my bony arse is fine. i can't feel it ,but its fine :)
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: Ducati Scotty on June 25, 2013, 06:22:50 pm
I had a bike like that.  Great for 30 minutes, not so great at 45, then couldn't feel anything after an hour.  The trick on long runs was to stay in the seat once your butt was numb :)

Scott
Title: Re: English dual seat
Post by: Royalista on June 25, 2013, 08:51:51 pm
I had a bike like that.  Great for 30 minutes, not so great at 45, then couldn't feel anything after an hour.  The trick on long runs was to stay in the seat once your butt was numb :)

Scott

+1
Like that, don't give it a thought. Think of England and chuck on.