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Title: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: 9fingers on October 06, 2018, 09:49:27 pm: Thought I would check as I have been getting 93 at my local Mobil station but the RE dealer told me to avoid ethanol gas. Other than buying race fuel for $$$ a gallon how does one avoid Ethanol? I do use race fuel in my trials bikes but I use about 3/4 of a gallon at an event, at most.
9fingers
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Richard230 on October 07, 2018, 01:33:08 am: All of the gas anywhere near me in the SF Bay Area includes 10% ethanol at no extra cost. I use 87 octane in my B5 and it seems to run well on the stuff. At least it gets me down the road at 75 mph, I get at least 70 mpg during my rides and my spark plug looks perfect, with light tan on the electrode and insulator and a light deposit of black soot around the plug's housing. Bike starts right up every time with no drama, too. :)
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: wildbill on October 07, 2018, 01:50:22 am: never worry about the cheaper gas and always run 98 ron
always keep in mind the ethanol gas was responsible for eating away at the fuel float inside the tank and ended up doing it in.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Chilliman on October 07, 2018, 06:47:17 am: I use 98 octane and a quality upper cylinder lube in the fuel
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Bmadd34 on October 07, 2018, 01:58:15 pm: I always run Premium in Fieldy.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: tooseevee on October 07, 2018, 03:26:55 pm: Quote from: 9fingers on October 06, 2018, 09:49:27 pm
Thought I would check as I have been getting 93 at my local Mobil station but the RE dealer told me to avoid ethanol gas. Other than buying race fuel for $$$ a gallon how does one avoid Ethanol? I do use race fuel in my trials bikes but I use about 3/4 of a gallon at an event, at most.
9fingers

The Left has made ethanol a political and moral issue (if you disagree with the whole ethanol subject you are an evil, immoral criminal and want to destroy the world and kill everybody) so if you think that non-ethanol fuel will EVER be readily available you are sadly mistaken so you simply have to accept it, adjust and move on and buy one of the ethanol-fighting additives and put it in your fuel because it is here forever and will only get worse.

I've been using the ethanol fighters in my bikes since the beginning of the making fuel out of food political scam long before I got the 2008 AVL brand new in 2010. It seems to work "OK" although the only empirical evidence I have is that I no longer see the white, chalky residue in carburetors that I saw in the early days of the ethanol scam.

And yes, I use 93 or 94 in bikes whether they need it or not. I have no rational defense for that. Don't care. Always have. Since the '50s. Never cared about $$/mile all that much. It relieves me from worrying or analyzing it to death ad nauseam.

PS: I've used the Lucas brand for many years. Seems OK. Maybe Dry Gas would be just as good? Who knows?
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: hpwaco on October 07, 2018, 04:38:23 pm: Here in Waco there is one station that sells ethanol free gas - only one of the Murphys at the four Walmarts. Sign says its 87 octane and currently costs about $2.90 per gal vs $2.59 for regular. Never know how often it sells / how long its been sitting in the ground. OR if its really alcohol free! Never had a problem with it in my 14GT or previous 01 Bonneville. Also use STARTRON and carry it with me when on a trip. Anyone remember the days of GULF CREST 100 octaine in the purple pump? Were those the good olde days?
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: tooseevee on October 07, 2018, 06:15:38 pm: Quote from: hpwaco on October 07, 2018, 04:38:23 pm
Anyone remember the days of GULF CREST 100 octaine in the purple pump? Were those the good olde days?

Anyone remember Amoco White? It's all I would use throughout the '50s and '60s until the last station in RI finally gave up the ghost in the late '70s, I think. The memory is foggy.

You had to use a little top oil with it and some used a lead additive.

Engines that ran on Amoco White and had regular oil and filter changes from new were clean as a whistle inside when disassembled no matter what the mileage.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Bilgemaster on October 07, 2018, 07:38:40 pm: My 2005 Bullet 500ES is on a steady diet of ethanol-free 89 octane that I haul home from about a half hour away. To that I add just a dash of Marvel Mystery Oil--maybe an ounce a tankful. All my outboards, small engine gardening stuff, generators, and the Amphicar get the same "real gas" brew, but with a dash of Sta-Bil 360 Marine fuel stabilizer as well, since they tend to keep a belly full of gas longer.

Every time I go on one of those fuel runs down to Stafford, Virginia, I make sure and let my Congressman and both Senators know what an unnecessary pain in ass it was. There is no debate that ethanol is harmful spew that'll ruin my property, and I resent the fact that I have to go so far out of my way to avoid it. Why not write YOUR congresschumps too? Otherwise, you've little right to bitch about the shit fuel being foisted on you just because every Presidential candidate since maybe Grover Cleveland needed the Iowa Caucuses to get forward momentum and took the damned
Ethanol Pledge...

To check on ethanol-free gas availability, check out the state-by-state directory at Pure-gas.org (https://www.pure-gas.org)
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: upintheair on October 07, 2018, 07:44:35 pm: Sometimes marinas have unadulterated fuel, as the fiberglass tanks in many of the older boats are negatively affected by the high fructose corn syrup. Another possibility is to talk to a friend with an airplane, and get some 100LL before it disappears. My XK120 used to run great on the 115/145 purple avgas.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: 9fingers on October 09, 2018, 12:17:57 pm: Isn't it great that NJ does not allow the sale of ethanol free gas? That an only 10 rounds in a handgun now, instead of the 15 that it used to be. I did find 98 ethanol free up in Albany, NY, about 2 hours 20 from me. I guess I can take a couple of 5 gallon cans up there once in a while and fill up. I have business in Kingston so will not be a total waste of time.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: tooseevee on October 09, 2018, 01:01:58 pm: Quote from: Bilgemaster on October 07, 2018, 07:38:40 pm

To check on ethanol-free gas availability, check out the state-by-state directory at Pure-gas.org (https://www.pure-gas.org)

There are 3 or 4 places in RI that have non-corn gas. All of them are an hour there and an hour back.

There is one multi-cultural bike shop that sells every brand except harley that sells racing fuel, but godonlyknows how much they charge for it.

PS: Why should we expect the fuel to not have corn in it when EVeRything else we eat has corn in it?
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Mad4Bullets on October 09, 2018, 04:55:25 pm: Ah yes the ethanol question. For two years of winter storage I actually removed the ethanol from the gas by mixing it with water in inverted gallon jugs. Shake well and the ethanol and water combine and eventually sink to the bottom. Each inverted jug is fitted with a custom bottom tap to easily drain off the combined water/ethanol leaving only pure fuel for winter storage. There are kits available on line for this sort of thing and are a great idea for older carbureted machines or bikes with fiberglass tanks as they are highly susceptible to ethanol damage. In the end I accepted that our modern bikes are engineered with materials to run with ethanol gas and stopped this practice altogether. At the end of the season I top off the tank with fresh pump gas that I pre-treat with Stabil per the directions and I haven't had a single problem ever. The winter months are relatively dry in the northeast and moisture in the gas isn't really a problem. The bike runs like a top each spring and during the season I just run straight ethanol gas from the pump. We all want the best for our bikes and I love to learn new skills but I was probably overdoing it a bit. Regards, Kevin Daly
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: heloego on October 09, 2018, 06:15:55 pm: Truck and car use corn gas, but the bikes are filled regularly with 89 Non-Ethanol.The station is only about 5 minutes away, and one of the very few left that actually do maintenance, too. Great guys.I just hope they can keep getting good gas. Only place in town.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: wildbill on October 10, 2018, 12:33:35 am: bit different here in OZ. where I live in a town of 40,000 people -you can get 95 RON at every gas station PLUS 4 servo's carry the premium 98 RON
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Richard230 on October 10, 2018, 01:18:48 am: I just heard on the TV news that the President will be approving E15 for use all year long. >:( So keep your eye on the signs posted on those fuel pumps to make sure that you are not refilling with E15. >:( If you think that E10 is bad for your RE, you really don't want to fill up with that stuff.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Narada on October 12, 2018, 09:33:53 pm: That should be a "Presidential Alert" LOL!
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Bilgemaster on October 15, 2018, 01:52:25 pm: Look, I have no problem with making E15 available. Sell 100% Ethanol Spew, for all I care. I just want the option of being allowed to buy what I want. Free Markets and all that. I mean, just because China threw up a tariff on ethanol and Trump felt he had to stroke off Iowa Senators Grassley and Ernst while Ted Cruz served as "towel boy" last Tuesday (https://whotv.com/2018/05/09/president-trump-agrees-to-year-round-sale-of-e-15-but-scott-pruitt-has-final-say/) doesn't mean I should then have to fill my carb bowls with their sploodge, right?

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G6eWcemH668/hqdefault.jpg)
You'll use the ethanol, and you'll like it.
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: 9fingers on October 15, 2018, 02:15:31 pm: Quote from: Bilgemaster on October 15, 2018, 01:52:25 pm
Look, I have no problem with making E15 available. Sell 100% Ethanol Spew, for all I care. I just want the option of being allowed to buy what I want. Free Markets and all that. I mean, just because China threw up a tariff on ethanol and Trump felt he had to stroke off Iowa Senators Grassley and Ernst while Ted Cruz served as "towel boy" last Tuesday (https://whotv.com/2018/05/09/president-trump-agrees-to-year-round-sale-of-e-15-but-scott-pruitt-has-final-say/) doesn't mean I should then have to fill my carb bowls with their sploodge, right?

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G6eWcemH668/hqdefault.jpg)
You'll use the ethanol, and you'll like it.

RIGHT!
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: hpwaco on October 15, 2018, 07:36:25 pm: Buying/using higher then recommended octane gasoline in unmodified engines only decreases the performance of your wallet!
Title: Re: What Gasoline do you use?
Post by: Scotty Brown on October 16, 2018, 07:22:29 am: 87 octane ethanol since new. Now over 16,000 miles. I do add a bit of sta-bil and marvel Mystery oil from time to time. Never have had a problem. Fuel without ethanol almost impossible to find here in Kalifornia. My C5 is so forgiving it would probably run on Chicken fat.