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Reply #285 on: June 04, 2021, 03:16:14 pm
I have just been reminded that this is National Doughnut Day in the U.S. Likely also in California, where they make their donuts out of gluten-free sustainable fish meal and seaweed.  ::)

I bet they don't have a national doughnut day in Sweden.  ;)  The Swedes don't know what they are missing.  ;D
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Reply #286 on: June 04, 2021, 03:23:28 pm
I have just been reminded that this is National Doughnut Day in the U.S. Likely also in California, where they make their donuts out of gluten-free sustainable fish meal and seaweed.  ::)

I bet they don't have a national doughnut day in Sweden.  ;)  The Swedes don't know what they are missing.  ;D

I took advantage of National Cheeseburger Day last week. I'll also enjoy National Doughnut Day today too.
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Reply #287 on: June 04, 2021, 04:26:11 pm
Well the Swedish apparently hate their own traditions so much that they have to import foreigners to uphold them.

I certainly don't know if religion needs to be something that's part of a government. Looking at our CDU (Christian Democratic Union) and Mrs. Merkel being the Head of it maybe that party has come into place to exploit Christians and their willingness to contribute to society. Mrs. Merkel is grown up in the DDR, sure is atheist herself and apparently inclined to recreate that DDR which would be a "security" and "control" state.

A human just can't exist in a spacetime where you can't trust anything, Swedish are probably most advanced in that dehumanisation process. I rather surround myself with a bunch of assholes than robots.
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Reply #288 on: June 04, 2021, 05:34:29 pm
@ 284, 289: So you are all good with the ends justifying the means. Welcome to the very OpFor you railed against.

"A human just can't exist in a spacetime where you can't trust anything,"
When you voluntarily create such a space instead of working to fix what you had, how is "trust" still a real issue?

" maybe that party has come into place to exploit Christians and their willingness to contribute to society "
So if following Christian doctrine isn't where the Evangelicals are, how are they still to be considered Christians? CINO's?
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2011-sep-13-la-pn-ron-paul-gop-debate-20110913-story.html
Support at GOP debate for letting the uninsured die
“That’s what freedom is all about: taking your own risks.,” Ron Paul said, repeating the standard libertarian view as some in the audience cheered.
“But congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die,” Blitzer asked.
“Yeah,” came the shout from the audience. That affirmative was repeated at least three times.


That's certainly the attitude I see locally amongst many "Christian Folk", pure "Us vs. Them".
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Reply #289 on: June 04, 2021, 06:03:52 pm
Man, I don't even know where to start!

What ends justified what means?
What in the world are you talking about?

As for the Wolf Blitzer's attempt at a weak "gotcha" question to RP, the answer is very simple.
It is the duty of family or charity to care for indigents. Those who choose to not have insurance made their own choice, not "society". The gov't has no duty or authorization to provide insurance for anybody.

BTW, I voted for Ron Paul in the primary 2008 and 2012, and for Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party in the 2008 general election. Wrote in Ron Paul in 2012. I would never vote for McCain or Romney.
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Reply #290 on: June 04, 2021, 07:55:55 pm
https://youtu.be/8elv8N91Bm4

Could you just reimport that guy back home and teach him some Christian values? Please.


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Reply #291 on: June 05, 2021, 12:22:14 am
What ends justified what means?
What we've been talking about for a while here - deliberately voting into office a self-involved opportunistic misogynistic playboy to achieve a more theistic government. Using the polar opposite of your biblical values to further your cause.

It is the duty of family or charity to care for indigents.
So if you end up robbed, penniless, unconscious under a bridge 1000 miles from home  mostly beat to death, the Ladies Home Auxiliary will hold a bake sale?
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In the United States, charity care is health care provided for free or at reduced prices to low income patients.[1] The percentage of doctors providing charity care dropped from 76% in 1996-97 to 68% in 2004-2005. Potential reasons for the decline include changes in physician practice patterns and increasing financial pressures.[2] In 2006, Senate investigators found that many hospitals did not inform patients that charity care was available. Some for-profit hospitals provided as much charity care as some non-profit hospitals. Investigators also found non-profit hospitals charging poor, uninsured patients more than they did patients with health insurance.[3]

Those who choose to not have insurance made their own choice, not "society".
A choice between eating, rent & health care is a helluva thing, but it happens when you get laid off in a recession. Diabetes & other meds aren't free. So people with chronic health conditions are supposed to be happy to be "called home" when their ability to get meds stops? Who drives the body collection carts, the ambulance folks weren't too excited about that duty during the C19 peaks.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/2020/coverage-options-laid-off-workers
Did You Lose Your Health Insurance Because of the Coronavirus Pandemic? Coverage Options for Laid-Off Workers and Others

The gov't has no duty or authorization to provide insurance for anybody.
This might come as quite a shock to the VA and Congress.

Sounds like as long as you personally are doing well, too bad for everyone else. Stay lucky or crawl away under a bush & die. Nice.
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Reply #292 on: June 05, 2021, 12:59:03 am
Who said anything about a theistic government? This gov't is as far from theistic as is humanly posdible at this point. Trump did not make it any more theistic, regardless of what some may have thought or wanted.
People in this country can vote for anyone they want to, for any reason they want to. Maybe some thought he was better than Satan's minion on the Dem side of the ticket? Could be.

And that "playboy" for any/all of his faults is offered the same forgiveness of sins as any other Christian, none of which are perfect in the last ~2000 years or so.

The "cause" is to stop and reverse the progression of leftist policies in this country, not establish theistic gov't.

Yes, a bake sale might help.
Beggars take what is offered by those who can help. There is no shortage of help for those who truly need. The "victim card" is a stale ploy. It always gets trotted out to try to elicit an emotional response, hoping to override a logical decision.

Everybody is responsible for their own well-being. Fall down, and people will help. Lay down and expect a free ride from gov't tax welfare because you failed to prepare for unexpected life events, not so much.

If I am doing fine, it's because I worked to make it that way, and I have seen my share of unforseen hardships. There's a lesson in there.

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Reply #293 on: June 05, 2021, 03:07:39 am
Here's a good piece on the hypocrisy of voting for Trump. It illustrates the transactional nature of ignoring Trump's immorality to gain the new Supreme Court makeup, which will legislate more in keeping with Evangelical values, i.e. theocratic values.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/the-evangelical-movements-bad-bargain/616760/
The less gullible or more cynical evangelicals view Trump transactionally. Trump may be using evangelicals to advance his aims, but they are also using Trump to advance their aims. (Many evangelicals have grown enamored with Trump’s relentless attacks and aggression, believing that he is inflicting wounds on those who deserve to be wounded.) The president might not be a model Christian in his personal life, they admit, but he delivers what they want, which is power and influence.
In no area is that more true than in the judiciary, where Trump has placed two conservative justices on the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, and, absent anything unforeseen, will end his first term having added a third, Amy Coney Barrett. Say what you will about Trump’s ethical failures, his evangelical supporters insist, on the issue that matters most to them, Trump has been spectacular.
The transaction, from their perspective, is better than they could have hoped for. Trump has reshaped the federal judiciary, particularly compared with what would have happened if Hillary Clinton had been president, and nothing else Trump has done—no moral line he has crossed, no offense he has committed—can take away from his achievements in this area.

But if politically conservative evangelicals have things they can rightly claim to have won, what has been lost?
For starters, by overlooking and excusing the president’s staggering array of personal and public corruptions, Trump’s evangelical supporters have forfeited the right to ever again argue that character counts in America’s political leaders. They might try, but if they do, they will be met with belly laughs. It’s not that their argument is invalidated; it is that because of their glaring hypocrisy, they have sabotaged their credibility in making the argument.
The conservative evangelical David French has reminded us that in 1998, during the Bill Clinton–Monica Lewinsky scandal, the Southern Baptist Convention passed a “Resolution on Moral Character of Public Officials,” declaring that it was wrong to “excuse or overlook immoral or illegal conduct by unrepentant public officials so long as economic prosperity prevails,” because “tolerance of serious wrong by leaders sears the conscience of the culture, spawns unrestrained immorality and lawlessness in the society, and surely results in God’s judgment.”
It further affirmed that “moral character matters to God and should matter to all citizens, especially God’s people, when choosing public leaders,” and “implore[d] our government leaders to live by the highest standards of morality both in their private actions and in their public duties, and thereby serve as models of moral excellence and character.”

The carefully choreographed dance goes like this: Moral character in public officials matters quite a lot when the public officials who morally fail are Democrats; it matters hardly at all when they are Republicans. If it’s a liberal who has crossed ethical lines, emphasize righteous conduct; if it’s a conservative, emphasize forgiveness and verses like “Judge not lest you be judged.” If it’s Bill Clinton in the dock, savage him; if it’s Donald Trump, savage his critics.
But the problem goes far beyond an inconsistent application of a biblical ethic. What the Trump years have exposed is something more fundamental, which is that many evangelical Christians have not brought anything distinctively Christian to politics.





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Reply #294 on: June 05, 2021, 03:26:44 am
W were a little less deep in the UK.
We saw a choice of 'Hillary' and 'Not Hillary'.
Most of the people I talked to weren't surprised that 'Not Hillary' won.
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Reply #295 on: June 05, 2021, 03:32:55 am
Well that's nice.
Their opinion and 5 bucks will get a double mocha latte' at Starbucks.
Thanks for reminding me that The Atlantic is still just as worthless as always. Not to mention those other fish wraps that you have been quoting. We don't really care what leftist writers think about us. We know their game.

I appreciate your efforts but you have about as much chance of swaying my position as moving the sun into another galaxy. I will continue to work diligently to vote people into office who will dismantle every aspect of the progressive agenda for as long as I breathe air,... just in case I wasn't clear.


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Reply #296 on: June 05, 2021, 08:09:56 am
I don't believe in charity and would not put a cent in one ever again. You pay 60% taxation on any job you pick up in Europe. Not counting the charity you have to contribute to the already immense waterheads that occupy privileged positions in those  socialist corporates and motherships.

If you work 20 years, you worked 12 years for charity. In the meantime the risk equity companies stuff their money to the cayman islands and in software development to create Internet censorship to promote dictatorships in Europe. Now with the covid emergency treatment they effectively turned the countries of Europe into concentration camps.

I plan to contribute exactly 12 years of zero ecomic value to this fine society, after that it most likely going to be china running the show, we doing them a favour by handicapping ourselves with the "green" ideology that makes everything impossible and is about outlawing everything only.
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Reply #297 on: June 05, 2021, 11:55:37 am
I don't believe in charity and would not put a cent in one ever again. You pay 60% taxation on any job you pick up in Europe. Not counting the charity you have to contribute to the already immense waterheads that occupy privileged positions in those  socialist corporates and motherships.

If you work 20 years, you worked 12 years for charity. In the meantime the risk equity companies stuff their money to the cayman islands and in software development to create Internet censorship to promote dictatorships in Europe. Now with the covid emergency treatment they effectively turned the countries of Europe into concentration camps.

I plan to contribute exactly 12 years of zero ecomic value to this fine society, after that it most likely going to be china running the show, we doing them a favour by handicapping ourselves with the "green" ideology that makes everything impossible and is about outlawing everything only.
Yes, it's sad that they take so much tax, so that money for private donations is almost eliminated. Maybe it would be better to eliminate the gov't instead of the charity.
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Reply #298 on: June 05, 2021, 12:27:00 pm
It doesn't seem to be possible, companies like Bosch need that big government to make that ABS mandatory on everything that moves.


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Reply #299 on: June 05, 2021, 02:42:56 pm
It doesn't seem to be possible, companies like Bosch need that big government to make that ABS mandatory on everything that moves.

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