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on: June 27, 2020, 08:46:26 pm
It might be handy if we posted items from other brands of motorcycles that also fit our 650s. Even other RE models or heck, snowmobiles.
A lot of the accessory companies don't know about specific RE fitment so they don't yet list the RE 650s.

I'm sure that a number of rear shocks are the same length and bolt size, etc.

One off the wall example is that our left side handlebar switch box is exactly the same as the one on my 2005 Suzuki SV 650.
 
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Reply #1 on: June 28, 2020, 08:07:20 am
Great idea!! I for one shall be watching this thread like a hawk!!
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Reply #2 on: June 28, 2020, 10:16:59 am
I guess it depends on the manufacturer,  but years ago Yamaha only had about 3 different oil filters across their whole model range, wheel bearings were common too. Suzuki though had virtually no consistency.  You would think that rationalizing parts would save a company lots of money in manufacturing and spares holdings.  Now selling them as spare parts is very different,  if you were unscrupulous you could sell identical parts but labelled as bike specific with model specific part numbers. Mmm, how many are guilty of that? I know a couple of brands!
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Reply #3 on: July 12, 2020, 12:47:10 am
It might be handy if we posted items from other brands of motorcycles that also fit our 650s. Even other RE models or heck, snowmobiles.
A lot of the accessory companies don't know about specific RE fitment so they don't yet list the RE 650s.

I'm sure that a number of rear shocks are the same length and bolt size, etc.

One off the wall example is that our left side handlebar switch box is exactly the same as the one on my 2005 Suzuki SV 650.
Disappointed that this thread has stalled. I think it’s a great idea 👍
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Reply #4 on: July 12, 2020, 12:57:30 am
I guess it depends on the manufacturer,  but years ago Yamaha only had about 3 different oil filters across their whole model range, wheel bearings were common too. Suzuki though had virtually no consistency.  You would think that rationalizing parts would save a company lots of money in manufacturing and spares holdings.  Now selling them as spare parts is very different,  if you were unscrupulous you could sell identical parts but labelled as bike specific with model specific part numbers. Mmm, how many are guilty of that? I know a couple of brands!

The other unscrupulous thing that sometimes happens with spares is pricing them high to get a good tax write off on warranty work and not particularly caring if the general public every buy any. This happen a LOT with things like laptop motherboards.


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Reply #5 on: July 12, 2020, 09:31:04 pm
Front brake pads are 95-03 CB500.

Front fork preload adjusters are generic 41mm.

Front fork springs look remarkably same as SV650. I’ll double check as I’ve got some ktech ones for my SV race bike I’ll try them out.


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Reply #6 on: July 14, 2020, 07:55:49 pm
This is a "universal" Fork tube mount which could be handy for adjustable clip-on handle bars and / or a custom windshield mount or auxiliary driving lights and so on
https://www.amazon.com/PROCNC-motorcycle-Handlebar-replacement-1987-1998/dp/B07Q85SLV3/ref=sr_1_13?crid=2T13CCLJ41XZV&dchild=1&keywords=41mm+clip+on+handlebars&qid=1594739211&sprefix=41mm+clip%2Caps%2C239&sr=8-13 $23USD
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Reply #7 on: July 14, 2020, 08:09:25 pm
Stripped my forks today to install stiffer springs.
With stock springs out and fork compressed the air gap was 140mm. I drained the oil and there was 410ml that came out. I didn’t strip damper rods so there would be a tiny bit left. That isn’t far from the manual spec.
The replacement 9.0 linear springs are SV650 fitment and are 100mm longer than the stock springs meaning the preload spacers needed cutting down to 80mm.
Filled back up with 10w oil to the same 140mm air gap. Once back on bike set sag and had a bounce. May need to go to 15w oil but I’ll take a ride out first and see.
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Reply #8 on: July 20, 2020, 03:29:48 am
Copied from Couchy’s post elsewhere regarding front brake pads-


Brembo part no. 07BB03SA

When I say race they are used in racing cb500’s by some, they are a road based pad though .
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Reply #9 on: July 20, 2020, 03:32:56 am
Also, from NVDucati-

I did a fair bit of searching for a USA retailer but in the end I ordered them from https://www.carpimoto.com/en-US/ They have a page for US ordering. Still priced in Euro but no VAT and the shipping wasn't bad. They claim 5 days.
They have a number of INT 650 specific items including front (15-16) and rear (38) sprockets.
For the "cafe crowd" they have aluminum fly screens, too.
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Reply #10 on: July 22, 2020, 01:39:17 am
Front brake pads are 95-03 CB500.

Front fork preload adjusters are generic 41mm.

Front fork springs look remarkably same as SV650. I’ll double check as I’ve got some ktech ones for my SV race bike I’ll try them out.

I have a pair of 41mm fork preload adjusters ordered off Ebay for $25 AUD delivered. I hope they will fit and will post here result of fitment.
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Reply #11 on: August 15, 2020, 08:52:20 am
Thought I’d revive this in case it was forgotten!
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Reply #12 on: August 15, 2020, 09:14:58 am
I have some items in my shed that are not brand specific, spanners, compressor, paddock stand, battery charger. Sorry,  I am a naughty boy.
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Reply #13 on: August 15, 2020, 10:27:37 am
Has anyone come across a helmet lock like the one in the pictures. I’m not sure if this would fit the Enfield, it is made for triumphs by motone.
 Surely something like this is semi universal?
 Are the rear top shock mounts similar to that of a T100?
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Reply #14 on: August 15, 2020, 11:11:37 pm
Wouldn't a helmet attached to that lock touch the hot ?muffler
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Reply #15 on: August 15, 2020, 11:19:33 pm
Wouldn't a helmet attached to that lock touch the hot ?muffler

That was the exact reason I sent back the license-plate helmet lock that had such high reviews on Amazon (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002F85VQS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1).

It was a really elegant solution that alas was not made for our upswept pipes. Now I have a carabiner lock. Cheap but effective for short-term walks away from the bike.
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Reply #16 on: August 16, 2020, 12:54:50 am
Wouldn't a helmet attached to that lock touch the hot ?muffler
You could probably just sling the helmet back over the seat? I was just thinking that it looked pretty flash😁
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Reply #17 on: August 16, 2020, 12:59:42 am
If you fitted the TEC 2-1 you could put that fancy helmet lock on the side without the silencer ;D.
Just sayin'.
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Reply #18 on: August 16, 2020, 01:11:59 am
If you fitted the TEC 2-1 you could put that fancy helmet lock on the side without the silencer ;D.
Just sayin'.

Hahaha! You’re really taken by that 2 into 1, aren’t ya?
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Reply #19 on: August 16, 2020, 01:23:30 am
Hahaha! You’re really taken by that 2 into 1, aren’t ya?
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I saw it on YouTube for the first time last night. I don’t care about the claimed power increase I just like the way it looks 8)
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Reply #20 on: August 16, 2020, 01:26:20 am
I saw it on YouTube for the first time last night. I don’t care about the claimed power increase I just like the way it looks 8)
Yes it does, but I’ve got this anal thing about symmetry!
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Reply #21 on: August 16, 2020, 01:28:04 am
That 2-1 does look pretty sweet and it’s not overly expensive either. You may see a low klm AEW system up for sale soon. 😉
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Reply #22 on: August 16, 2020, 02:17:05 am
That 2-1 does look pretty sweet and it’s not overly expensive either. You may see a low klm AEW system up for sale soon. 😉

I agree. It is reasonably priced. I am not in a hurry to change the pipes but after seeing that it removes all the bs in the headers I am leaning that way. I also noticed it does turn blue because of the heat and it not being double walled.
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Reply #23 on: August 16, 2020, 06:40:27 am
I agree. It is reasonably priced. I am not in a hurry to change the pipes but after seeing that it removes all the bs in the headers I am leaning that way. I also noticed it does turn blue because of the heat and it not being double walled.
Which is always a good look to me!
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Reply #24 on: August 16, 2020, 11:04:28 pm
Which is always a good look to me!

Me too.
Now there is a thread for this and it sounds like they are making a standard set up 2-2, just like what is on the bike now :P
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Reply #25 on: August 24, 2020, 09:45:33 am
Relays under left side cover can use Narva 68070BL 5 pin relay or Tridon TR039. Top left Main relay top right starter relay bottom left accessory relay and bottom right fuel pump relay.  Just from taken posts elsewhere, not actually required to try out any of it yet. I do have some Narva relays as spares under the seat now.
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Reply #26 on: August 24, 2020, 09:49:37 am
Relays under left side cover can use Narva 68070BL 5 pin relay or Tridon TR039. Top left Main relay top right starter relay bottom left accessory relay and bottom right fuel pump relay.  Just from taken posts elsewhere, not actually required to try out any of it yet. I do have some Narva relays as spares under the seat now.

Cheers! Nice to know.
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Reply #27 on: August 24, 2020, 12:14:24 pm
Relays under left side cover can use Narva 68070BL 5 pin relay or Tridon TR039. Top left Main relay top right starter relay bottom left accessory relay and bottom right fuel pump relay.  Just from taken posts elsewhere, not actually required to try out any of it yet. I do have some Narva relays as spares under the seat now.
Excellent, thanks.
This is the kind of information is very helpful because our bikes are not (yet) listed in auto part stores cross reference data. Having those two brands and model numbers lights up many other compatible relays.
I've made a list and taped it into my owner's manual (which I carry on board).
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Reply #28 on: August 24, 2020, 02:09:04 pm
Yes it does, but I’ve got this anal thing about symmetry!
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Yes, take care of the imbalance because of the lack of weight on the opposite side of the bike. Maybe an idea to get that helmet lock there and use it for a permanent pillion helmet? Or an extra can of gas? ;-)
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Reply #29 on: April 03, 2021, 08:27:48 pm
Grabbed this from another thread:
Just in case you break a wire, this part fits our bikes perfectly. And much cheaper than the Royal Enfield part.
$34 vs $116
Same p/n, engine light cleared after about 20 miles easy riding.

 28596570 LAMBDA OXYGEN O2 4-PIN/ WIRE OSM SENSOR FOR HARLEY DAVIDSON
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Reply #30 on: April 03, 2021, 11:08:52 pm
Splendid info.  Thanks to Aspina and NVDucati. 8)


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Reply #31 on: April 04, 2021, 01:17:31 am
Relays under left side cover can use Narva 68070BL 5 pin relay or Tridon TR039. Top left Main relay top right starter relay bottom left accessory relay and bottom right fuel pump relay.  Just from taken posts elsewhere, not actually required to try out any of it yet. I do have some Narva relays as spares under the seat now.

Another substitute of FAR higher quality are the Panasonic CM1-R-12V relays commonly available in the US.


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Reply #32 on: June 23, 2022, 01:33:22 pm
For a rear sprocket replacement I'd like to consider a "dual sprocket" from Moose or other suppliers.
https://www.mooseracing.com/products/547339/productGroup/384502
From thier website:
    "Designed to outlast standard aluminum rear sprockets and is much lighter than steel rear sprockets
    Inner ring is made from 7075 T6 aluminum and the outer ring is made from heavy duty steel
    Self-cleaning mud grooves between each tooth to prevent dirt build up
    Inner rings are anodized; available in black, blue, green, orange, red and silver"

Naturally, they don't yet include the Royal Enfields in the drop down fitment list. Do we know which rear sprockets from other brands fit our bikes?
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Reply #33 on: June 24, 2022, 03:11:47 am
That's a good question, I took a look at JT Sprockets latest catalog and no RE at all. Bummer.
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Reply #34 on: January 23, 2023, 10:17:41 pm
Wouldn't a helmet attached to that lock touch the hot ?muffler

I dunno, what size helmet do you wear?
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Reply #35 on: July 16, 2023, 08:34:51 am
Originally offered by:  author Alan F.
Another note to place here along with the Tec Stinger notes, RE Exhaust Gaskets from India on ebay are $15.99 a pair. 34x42x4 in copper.
I noticed that 35x42x4 in copper for Honda CBR600F CB650 CB900F CBR900RR VF1000F VF750C
18291-MN4-920, 18212-634-010,
18291-236-000, 18212-634-000 are currently available for $10.99 for 4 on Ebay shipped from the USA and you can probably find those locally if needed.
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Reply #36 on: July 16, 2023, 01:49:09 pm
Has anyone come across a helmet lock like the one in the pictures. I’m not sure if this would fit the Enfield, it is made for triumphs by motone.
 Surely something like this is semi universal?
 Are the rear top shock mounts similar to that of a T100?

I have this on my Interceptor.  I can’t say whether or not a helmet would touch the stock cans because I have a Stinger 2-into-1 exhaust and the lock is mounted on the opposite side.  I suspect a thief with a pair of pliers could walk off with my helmet but it hasn’t happened yet.


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Reply #37 on: July 16, 2023, 03:02:01 pm
Originally offered by:  author Alan F.
Another note to place here along with the Tec Stinger notes, RE Exhaust Gaskets from India on ebay are $15.99 a pair. 34x42x4 in copper.
I noticed that 35x42x4 in copper for Honda CBR600F CB650 CB900F CBR900RR VF1000F VF750C
18291-MN4-920, 18212-634-010,
18291-236-000, 18212-634-000 are currently available for $10.99 for 4 on Ebay shipped from the USA and you can probably find those locally if needed.
That is a great piece of information, thanks NV.
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Reply #38 on: July 16, 2023, 04:28:44 pm
I can't help but wonder if that 35mm ID will flow better than the 34mm ID of the stock gaskets?
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Reply #39 on: July 16, 2023, 05:05:47 pm
Motone helmet lock is a little bulky but more or less disappears in all the black.  A helmet would definitely rest against the stock exhaust.