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Reply #15 on: October 19, 2020, 01:40:50 pm
Don't go for the tec, they are cheap chinese shocks. I have seen many examples on line of them failing, and even had mine fail on me (oil leaking everywhere).

Save the head ache and go for YSS or something


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Reply #16 on: October 19, 2020, 02:33:21 pm
I'm not saying the no-name Chinese products are as good.

Got your point. The problem is, you can only find out the hard way and I wouldn't want to risk that, neither in an airplane or a motorbike.

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Reply #17 on: October 19, 2020, 07:41:42 pm
Don't go for the tec, they are cheap chinese shocks. I have seen many examples on line of them failing, and even had mine fail on me (oil leaking everywhere).

Save the head ache and go for YSS or something
This comes up every time someone mentions TEC. Since I already had them on the bike I got concerned. The only example of a catastrophic failure that I can find is not the RE shock and it is clearly crash damage, not just falling apart. I have no problem changing stuff, my four different sets of mufflers are proof of that, but I also don't fall for scare tactics. OMG!!! Look at what happened!!!! Ok, what happened? Nobody seems to know but they sure get excited about it.

Someone named chunkybutt has a seal leak? I'm shocked! (pun intended)


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Reply #18 on: October 19, 2020, 08:32:42 pm
This comes up every time someone mentions TEC. Since I already had them on the bike I got concerned. The only example of a catastrophic failure that I can find is not the RE shock and it is clearly crash damage, not just falling apart. I have no problem changing stuff, my four different sets of mufflers are proof of that, but I also don't fall for scare tactics. OMG!!! Look at what happened!!!! Ok, what happened? Nobody seems to know but they sure get excited about it.

Someone named chunkybutt has a seal leak? I'm shocked! (pun intended)

Yes the internet, and these forums in particular, are really good at inducing paranoia. @Eddiesgirl nailed it in another forum: "because cancer" is the answer to all internet medical questions, and the similar logic applies here :)
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Reply #19 on: November 20, 2020, 08:07:51 pm
An interesting thread is this about tec shocks.Ive put them on my inter,and at first they felt really hard and when you pushed down on them it was if there was too much rebound holding them down or only letting them return back up slowly.I asked tec about this,but the reply was all about covid and they are a small family business trying to get parts out.Anyway ive now done 200mls with them set on no preload,and no.1 soft damping,and i think they are bedding in,quite good actually solo,havent tried them with the wife on the back.They are nicely made,good finish,fitted perfectly,mine are silver with black springs.If i have any problems with them i will fit either hagon or ikon.
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Reply #20 on: November 20, 2020, 08:29:02 pm
An interesting thread is this about tec shocks.Ive put them on my inter,and at first they felt really hard and when you pushed down on them it was if there was too much rebound holding them down or only letting them return back up slowly.I asked tec about this,but the reply was all about covid and they are a small family business trying to get parts out.Anyway ive now done 200mls with them set on no preload,and no.1 soft damping,and i think they are bedding in,quite good actually solo,havent tried them with the wife on the back.They are nicely made,good finish,fitted perfectly,mine are silver with black springs.If i have any problems with them i will fit either hagon or ikon.
Curious, are there separate adjustments for rebound / compression?
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Reply #21 on: November 20, 2020, 09:19:28 pm
As far as  price goes one of things you pay for when buying suspension components is experience. Ohlins, Penske, White Power (sorry if that sounds racist) and Race Tech to name just four that I've used on my race bikes not only build excellent products, but generally know what will work best for a given application and can offer a fair amount of help when things go wrong. There is also a lot of support as far as rebuilding and tuning go.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the lower priced aftermarket components but you get what you pay for. Buy a set of Hagon's for your RE and if things go south you can be reasonably sure they'll take care of it. Buy a no-name from the internet and it'll hold the back of the bike up, but after that your experience may vary.


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Reply #22 on: November 21, 2020, 06:37:17 am
As far as  price goes one of things you pay for when buying suspension components is experience. Ohlins, Penske, White Power (sorry if that sounds racist) and Race Tech to name just four that I've used on my race bikes not only build excellent products, but generally know what will work best for a given application and can offer a fair amount of help when things go wrong. There is also a lot of support as far as rebuilding and tuning go.

That is absolutely true. From experience I can only encourage everyone to go the Ohlins/KTech way at least once in your bike career. Together with setup assistance from a specialist (e. g. the Ohlins Service Centers).
It's a world of difference. I often hear statements like "I don't go on the racetrack, so I don't need that".
But that is only half of the story. You also get way more comfort and most important : More confidence whatever road imperfections or sudden wells or bumps in curves you may face. That is worth every cent!
Racetrack capable is just a nice to know extra to keep in mind.
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Reply #23 on: November 21, 2020, 03:01:02 pm
For those of you that are really interested in getting the most from your bikes suspension, and saving some money by avoiding time wasting "experiments." I'd recommend reading two books before you open your tool box or wallet.

The first is Kevin Cameron's Sport Bike Performance Handbook. The second is Race Techs Motorcycle Suspension Bible by Thede and Parks.
Both will provide a lot of insight into the how's and why's of suspension and explain how to dial in what you have or figure out what to replace it with.
Both also go a long way towards explaining why premium stuff is worth the extra dollars.


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Reply #24 on: November 21, 2020, 03:14:37 pm
The second is Race Techs Motorcycle Suspension Bible by Thede and Parks.

that's indeed a great book, I have the translated German version of it. For the German speaking readers, the title is "Handbuch Motorradfahrwerke: Einstellen - Optimieren - Reparieren"
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Reply #25 on: November 22, 2020, 12:49:18 pm
If in uk I can supply yss at discount. 3 grades eco, Z series or G Top depending on your needs or budget


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Reply #26 on: November 22, 2020, 04:07:46 pm
My two pennies worth, I went for hagon rear shocks and hyperpro progressive fork springs and hyperpro 15wt oil up front.
   The difference for me is night and day, before when pushing on through chopped up British twisties  there were times when I didn’t know if the front and or rear were actually in contact with the road surface !!
   Much more controlled now , I little firmer but no nasty surprises now .


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Reply #27 on: November 22, 2020, 04:43:18 pm
My two pennies worth, I went for hagon rear shocks and hyperpro progressive fork springs and hyperpro 15wt oil up front.
   The difference for me is night and day, before when pushing on through chopped up British twisties  there were times when I didn’t know if the front and or rear were actually in contact with the road surface !!
   Much more controlled now , I little firmer but no nasty surprises now .
Nice, thanks for the report. And yeah, there comes a point when "pushing on through" presents uncertainty.
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Reply #28 on: November 22, 2020, 05:55:25 pm
Interesting to hear about the hyper pro springs up front. Are they are straight replacement for the stock spring?


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Reply #29 on: November 22, 2020, 06:09:51 pm
I forgot to add I have the preload adjuster caps but yes they  are a straight swap out.
   They’re about 10 mm shorter and hyperpro inform you of this in the blurb and there’s no inference this is a problem with standard end caps.
   I’m a bit of a fan boy of  hyperpro springs , used a lot of them front and rear  in various guises.