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on: February 20, 2011, 02:39:42 am
In case any of you are interested, here's some info that you might find interesting, especially if you have darker skin or live in the Northern Climes. Any questions, feel free to ask.. If I proselytize  anything, this is it.A years supply costs less than $20, and every week there's another study published about it's various roles and results of deficiencies. This article is a little technical but regardless, you'll get the idea. It covers colds/flu, autoimmune diseases, mood, cancers, etc.,etc. Bone health is the least of it.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller25.html

This is a Libertarian website, by the way, and Miller was a Prof. of Cardiac Surgery at U. Wash., Seattle. The article itself is several years old, but the science has only been extended and corroborated.
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Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 03:35:45 am
Cheers, as I lift my goblet of chocolate milk to that.
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Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 03:42:29 am
A glass of milk has 400iu. You need to drink 13 glasses/day to get what you need, after drinking 30 glasses a day for 6 months to get your levels up to tropical blood levels up to minimum assuming you live in a non tropical area.
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Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 03:52:11 am
jjoe256 by chance do you have anything handy like web sites or whatnot about possible links between Vitamin D deficiencies and Seasonal Depression ?  I wonder,,Hmmm.
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Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 03:56:43 am
You're on the money. Higher levels enhance serotonin production:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/depression.shtml


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Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 04:01:31 am
Thanks Much.
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Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 04:07:06 am
Also, a possible mechanism:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9792205

It's hard to evaluate many studies as either the wrong test is used, the wrong type of D, or the levels are too low. For example, life guards in San Diego have levels of 81 ng/ml, but so far, the totalitarian medical establishment : :D only recognizes much lower levels, less than 50ng/ml.

I have read studies reflecting gene expression requiring D in the brain that has influenced levels:

Increases serotonin production. The role of serotonin in mental health is now well established. One study found that summer sunlight increased brain serotonin levels twice as much as winter sunlight8

"One theory for this is that vitamin D stimulates the brain to produce more serotonin. In a wintertime experiment, serum vitamin D levels doubled in six months through supplementation and dramatically increased their scores on a wellbeing assessment when two groups were given either 1,000 IU or 4,000 IU of vitamin D daily." And although both groups improved, the higher dose produced better results. In another investigation, researchers studied the association between vitamin D levels and the risk of mood disorders in the elderly. The results were impressive."
- Marc Sorenson, Solar Power For Optimal Health

Hope this helps.

If you're really interested, scroll down to where it talks about Vitamin D and the Brain:

http://books.google.com/books?id=oSl8VY33634C&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=vitamin+d+brain+gene+expression&source=bl&ots=E51raGP6s_&sig=0FG6dN5viBz_NDcPMFd2M3pLxlo&hl=en&ei=GZpgTfydEIqisAPWkf3fCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=vitamin%20d%20brain%20gene%20expression&f=false
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Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 09:26:59 pm
Any idea if Melaluca or Shaklee supplements meet these minimum intake requirements?
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Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 11:14:18 pm
Just look at the ingredient list. If it says 5,000 iu Vitamin  D3, it doesn't. I'd have to know exactly what specific product you mean. I'd also be surprised if it had more than 1,000iu.


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Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 06:05:41 am
My local Safeway carries three brands of D3 in 5,000 I.U.
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Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 04:52:15 pm
Great. Everyone's genetics is different but it's safe to assume you're deficient. It's just about impossible to OD. I would say take 10,000iu/day for the next 6 months and then cut back to 5,000iu/day. It takes a lot over a very long period of time to raise levels. As mentioned in the article, the Canadian gov't. routinely gives 600,000iu shots, a day at a summer beach will make 20,000iu in less than 15 minutes, so your safe. Next fall, you might want to get a blood test (@$50. and even covered by most costly corporate insurance plans). Good luck!! Oh, it's fat soluable so make sure you take it with a meal. If you're interested, I have a bottle of this that I bought by mistake I can let you have at cost if you get up to Seattle, or this is a good price from them:

http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?ss=1&Ntk=products&Ntt=vitamin%20d3%2010000%20iu


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Reply #11 on: February 22, 2011, 05:19:12 pm
I'd rather have a day at he beach than take pills but that's just me.


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Reply #12 on: February 22, 2011, 05:58:23 pm
Some people have a genetic defect that can't use sunshine. And if you don't live in the south, it's not an option. Look out for skin cancer!!


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Reply #13 on: February 22, 2011, 07:11:36 pm
I'd rather have a day at he beach than take pills but that's just me.
Me too. Regrettably, here in the Pacific Northwest that is rarely an option most of the year.  The Western part of the country has a fairly high suicide rate. There is speculation that this may be related to fewer hours of sunlight.  Many studies have been done on this subject and many conclusions drawn. A lack of Vitamin D is one of those conclusions as well as lower serotonin levels, increased melatonin levels, and lately gene mutation.  Whatever the root cause, I have found that increased exercise, getting as much artificial light as possible, and taking Vitamin D are helpful in keeping the effects of seasonal depression at bay.  Good luck.


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Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 12:45:53 am
My sister suffers from SAD and needs to use full-spectrum lighting as much as possible inside her house.  It is tough in the NW during these dark months.
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Reply #15 on: February 24, 2011, 12:50:14 am
My sister suffers from SAD and needs to use full-spectrum lighting as much as possible inside her house.  It is tough in the NW during these dark months.

Amen to that.  Prayers to your sister. I know how she feels.




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Reply #17 on: February 26, 2011, 06:11:26 pm
"much higher than the minimal intake of vitamin D of 400 IU/day that was needed to defeat rickets in the 20th century."   a quote from the article in the last post ... i think the reason for this might be global dimming a phenomominon , recently observed by three independent studies in different countries, caused by aircraft vapor trails reflecting sunlight.
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Reply #18 on: February 26, 2011, 11:30:41 pm
Allergies in KIds. Doesn't help adults because it's too late: it's all about prevention, maybe treatment, depending on condition:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110224103244.htm


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Reply #19 on: February 27, 2011, 01:52:21 am
"much higher than the minimal intake of vitamin D of 400 IU/day that was needed to defeat rickets in the 20th century."   a quote from the article in the last post ... i think the reason for this might be global dimming a phenomominon , recently observed by three independent studies in different countries, caused by aircraft vapor trails reflecting sunlight.

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Reply #20 on: February 27, 2011, 07:16:03 pm
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Reply #21 on: March 01, 2011, 10:24:13 pm