Most of the active ingredients in these injector cleaners are alcohols, and maybe some de-lacquering agent like Xylene..
Continuous use of the fuel should NOT result in any buildup as ACE points out - the toluene and xylene are powerful solvents - as well as flammable.
A little SeaFoam added to the fuel now and then has been doing a good job reducing carbon deposits in my Iron Barrel.
Singh,+1 on what SB said, if it needs to be cleaned send it to a shop that does that.
I have started a MSDS Composition Thread in Tech Tips that can help compare products based on their ingredients http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,9767.0.html
Here in Cali, our gasoline is just bad. We get a summer and a winter blend, the winter evaporates faster and is anywhere from 10 to 20% alcohol. Saying it's gasoline is a stretch. It's a poorly combustible liquid filled with odd chemicals.In our bmw's we started getting bikes hard to start, poor idle, and just running crappy.Pulling injectors showed flaky white deposits on the nozzles. BMW suggested we use the FI cleaner made for the cars that contains Thecron made by Chevron.Liquid magic. One ounce per gallon solved all our problems within a few miles.We now suggest it every few months.I checked the MSDS sheets on our product vs. the chevron branded stuff sold at auto parts stores and Costco.The BMW cleaner has 3 times the amount of Toulene than the other stuff.It also contains a gas preservative, an anti oxidant and an anti corrosion additive.For modern vehicles using the "film strip" type of fuel sender, this keeps things clean.It's about 15.00 per 20oz. Bottle so it goes a long way.it's approved for carby bikes as well and helps keep the pilot jets and passages clean as well.Again, we Cali folks have a unique gasoline issue.Sorry for the long post.BA
Anyone ever used OWS(germany) additive products?
Isn't it also a selling point with their fuel..chevron gas with techron in it??
how does that compair to sea foam?
I am jumping into this thread late and know absolutely nothng about engine fuel additives, but I had wondered in an earler thread whether the alcohol content variation in gasoline from region to region may account for some of the variability in performance (both speed and mileage) we see from owners on these threads/ SB's comment above on this thread regardign the potential to "fool" the oxygen sensors make we wonder that again. Thoughts? Nigel
Sat Sree Akaal Singh Ji.So far I have managed to locate three system cleaner available in my town.A. OWS(Germany) for two wheelers- No info on content.B. Wuerth(Germany) Petrol Additive- 1. Low boiling point hydrogen treated naptha2. Propane-2-ol3. kerosine4. Hydrocarbylamine5. Phenol, isobutylented6. 2-(2-heptadec-8-enyl-2-imidazolin-1-yl)ethanol7. (Z)-N-methyl-n-(1-oxo-9-octadecenyl)glycine8. NapthaleneC. Cyclo(USA)- Max 44 total system cleaner - Contents1. Fuel oil, no. 2 2. Xylene (mixed isomers) 3. Ethylbenzene 4. Naphthalene 5. Polymer Amine BlendWhat do you think which one sounds more promising?
My local station advertises premium with no methanol added, I hope they are telling the truth because that's what I run
Are they supposed to run on regular or premium?
I think alcohol has about half the energy of gasoline when you burn it. It's a very clean burning fuel but if you run a fuel like E-85 (85% ethanol, 15% gas) you need things like bigger injectors or carbs to deliver the fuel the engine needs and you get much less power for the same displacement.Scott
Couldn't the Model-T run on just about anything? Alcohol. kerosene, gasoline, diesel, peanut oil? And I think it gets in the neighborhood of 40-45mpg on many of those fuels. Makes you wonder what we've been doing since then that that mileage is still considered outstanding.Scott
YES! The fuel blend will definitely affect mileage and performance - more ethanol - less mileage, percent for percent almost. It's exacerbated on a ONE cylinder engine because you FEEL every firing cycle, too .... one or two lean hiccups in a row and you are going "WTF?" ................
How does it affect performance though.
Are we robbing our engines of real gasoline to psychologically save a few cents per litre and end up burning more than those few cents we saved?
RESULTS OF LUCAS INJECTOR CLEANER & UPPER CYLINDER LUBE / VALVE LUBE IN MOTORCYCLE Nobody replied 'yes' to my question if any one had used the above product in their motorcycle. So, I tried it in my G5 - turning it into a guinea pig. I added a little bit to my fuel tank a few days back. Since then I have covered over 150 miles. The results are pretty good. These are my observations -1. The valve noise is less.2. The idle is more stable.3. The fluctuations in idle engine rpm, due to EFI doing its 'thing' are less.4. The pick up is better.
How much of that little bottle did you put in? I've used it in my truck and did notice improvement in pick up.
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