I appreciated Clamps engaging attitude - I agreed with some of his philosophy. He was, sadly, prone to baiting others for a reaction. It is one thing to discuss with vigor and gusto - quite another to attack a fellow participant in that discussion. I encourage rounding discussion here - I'll miss old Clamper for that - but I'm guessing there are a few here who will not miss him at all ...... a lesson in civility learned, perhaps?