Author Topic: Royal Enfield Fury? (Read 9920 times)

trees · **on:** November 25, 2010, 03:05:38 am

?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/November/nov2410-more-pics-of-enfield-fury/

Im sure its a nice bike, but i cant help look at it with one eye closed.

Royal Rider · **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2010, 03:15:13 am

Well, it isn't that I'm against anything new...but me thinks they lost their way with this one. Resale values just went UP!!!

chumma7 · **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2010, 03:18:01 am

should be renamed Royal Enfield Hideous.

Chuck D · **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2010, 04:30:05 am

I don't know... It's not a bad direction for them to go. I personally like the flat tracker style. The proportions here seem a little off though. Does look kinda nice from the rear. Nice headlight too.

Anon · **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2010, 05:05:19 am

Aaaaccckkk!!!! That is awful! Can that really be from the same people who gave us a beautiful bike like the C5? somebody please tell me this is just some individual's hideous idea of a joke!

Eamon

daves02ES · **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2010, 05:25:56 am

Twin silencers, on a single? Why?

icarus · **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2010, 06:05:27 am

Most ugly Enfield ever.

Ice · **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2010, 11:08:31 am

Dear R.E.,
Unless that thing is both faster and quicker than real Fury, please, please,please,please DO NOT call it one.

Thank you,
Ice

motomataya · **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2010, 12:49:40 pm

The good news is, Many parts on that bike will let it not pass the US DOT inspection. You won't see here loking like that here, but it could get worse.

luoma · **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2010, 04:49:18 pm

I remember back in the 80s, the Japaneese experimented with some ugly design concepts. That's what this reminds me of, a poor copy of a failed design. I prefer when form follows function.

Blltrdr · **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2010, 05:26:21 pm

This may be an effort from the same design team who re-badged the GTO!

This is probably an India bike shop concept bike and has nothing to do with RE. Does it really need a dual exhaust? The kiddie slide seat design is wack; you would need some Velcro installed to keep the passenger from sliding forward, pushin your junk into the gas tank.

The cafe style Bullet would be the only model I'd like to see added to the US RE lineup.

Bullet Whisperer · **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2010, 06:50:09 pm

Well, looks like I'm in the minority here, but I like it overall - that gap between seat and sidepanel needs sorting though. Twin silencers featured on some Guzzi, Ducati and Triumph TR5MX machines, so why not? [We have Redditch Furys too here, by the way]
B.W.

aleman · **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2010, 07:52:53 pm

Hmmm. Weird.

I agree with Ice- I hate it when they take a name that actually meant something and then use it JUST to forward a branding idea.

aleman

Warwick · **Reply #13 on:** November 25, 2010, 08:34:25 pm

I think it looks great. It looks better than the C5. It doesnt have tiny wheels and doesnt look like a toy. Youre all a hard mob to please.

warwick

mrunderhill1975a · **Reply #14 on:** November 25, 2010, 09:10:07 pm

I don't care for the white color scheme, I could consider the black. I would have to agree that this is not aimed at the north american market. It seems to be aimed at the domestic younger riders in India..

Blltrdr · **Reply #15 on:** November 25, 2010, 09:11:04 pm

Quote from: Warwick on November 25, 2010, 08:34:25 pm

Youre all a hard mob to please.
warwick

If you could please everyone then you would only need one model of motorcycle for the people. I'm sure it would be painted some shade of gray.

r80rt · **Reply #16 on:** November 25, 2010, 09:36:55 pm

That's hideous.

Warwick · **Reply #17 on:** November 25, 2010, 10:54:37 pm

(I would have to agree that this is not aimed at the north american market. It seems to be aimed at the domestic younger riders in India..) I dont think any RE is aimed at the north american market. Its not a Vtwin or a bobber. US just happens to be a growing market. If anything the sporty flat track look may entice younger riders to the brand. Good on em!

72westie · **Reply #18 on:** November 26, 2010, 03:58:46 pm

I like the seat set-up. Not sold on the twin mufflers on a single, looks odd. Its looks like a Flat-track wannabe. I'd ride it.

longstrokeclassic · **Reply #19 on:** November 26, 2010, 04:44:39 pm

Here's another picture, this time with the bike emerging from the Watsonian Squire workshop - which leads me to think in the absnce of any other useful info, that it might be just for the UK market only (cue sighs of relief)

Anon · **Reply #20 on:** November 26, 2010, 04:48:58 pm

I guess it's mostly the rear end that bugs me - that and the tacky giant "Fury" logo on the side cover. I know the rear end looks vaguely XR750 like, but then I never like that on XR750's either.

Can there be any point other than cosmetic for the twin silencers? The head looks the same as the standard efi motor.

Eamon

longstrokeclassic · **Reply #21 on:** November 26, 2010, 04:54:00 pm

the pipes start the 'one into two' configuration just below the gearbox section of the engine,
There was what looked like an an EFI test mule, with an identical set up at this years UK importers open day ( except it was all bright yellow). But it was so caked in mud and rust that most never gave it a second glance, From memory all references to 'enfield' had either been removed or covered in duct tape, but there's no mistaking that engine .

Of course it could have been someones pride and joy that just hadn't ever been cleaned.

powerclown · **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2010, 05:54:24 pm

I like the original

powerclown · **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2010, 06:08:29 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjcURS60rq4

enjoy

1 Thump · **Reply #24 on:** November 30, 2010, 06:50:20 pm

Is this the much talked about EFI based cafe racer stock from the factory. I would say No to that.

powerclown · **Reply #25 on:** November 30, 2010, 09:35:14 pm

I dont like it,it looks strange to me,maybe they smoke to much....

but i like this:

500KsGerry · **Reply #26 on:** December 02, 2010, 01:57:11 am

Ewwwwwwwww

cyrusb · **Reply #27 on:** December 02, 2010, 04:44:39 pm

Hey, don't be so hard on it. After all it's a direct decendant of the original Fury, isn't it?

mballmur · **Reply #28 on:** December 02, 2010, 04:52:40 pm

The Fury sure makes the Classic that much more appealing....

Blltrdr · **Reply #29 on:** December 02, 2010, 05:03:49 pm

Quote from: cyrusb on December 02, 2010, 04:44:39 pm

Hey, don't be so hard on it. After all it's a direct decendant of the original Fury, isn't it?

If your using "descendant" as an adjective than I would have to agree.

REpozer · **Reply #30 on:** December 03, 2010, 03:32:45 am

If that Fury had been produced a few years ago,...

There would be no 1%er known as REpozer

1 Thump · **Reply #31 on:** December 05, 2010, 10:26:29 pm

Alright. So the fury is ready to hit the showrooms in the UK:

http://www.royal-enfield.com/fury.html

Lets see how it does.

cyrusb · **Reply #32 on:** December 05, 2010, 11:22:40 pm

5895 pounds if you want "colours" That seems like a lot of money. The prices on these things are really going up. Add VAT to that, and there's quite a nut to crack.

1 Thump · **Reply #33 on:** December 05, 2010, 11:34:24 pm

But the good thing is tha the resale on these bikes is low , so you could buy a used one for much less. Not good if you bought it new.

cyrusb · **Reply #34 on:** December 05, 2010, 11:38:39 pm

That's $9,296 ! plus that awful VAT. Furget the Furry, I'll take a bag of whatever they are smoking over there!!

singhg5 · **Reply #35 on:** December 06, 2010, 06:37:31 am

Quote from: Eamon on November 25, 2010, 05:05:19 am

Can that really be from the same people who gave us a beautiful bike like the C5?

Eamon:

RE India website does not mention anything about this model Fury. When I read the Watsonion website, it states "Developed by Watsonian Squire" - May be it is a creation of Watsonian, like the Italian creation McDeeb. Just a thought. The lines below are cut and pasted from the Watsonian website -

"Developed exclusively for UK customers by Watsonian Squire, and based on the fuel-injected Electra, the Fury is the first new model in 40 years to feature twin silencers, which allow the 499cc single cylinder engine to breathe more freely"

robbw · **Reply #36 on:** December 11, 2010, 08:46:08 am

According to the official press release the Fury will “appeal to a younger and more image-conscious customer base” than any other Enfield model.

enuf said!!!

Blltrdr · **Reply #37 on:** December 11, 2010, 07:13:59 pm

This is a pic of the new Fury kit from Hitchcock's. This is a great representation of the original, especially with the big head.

Anon · **Reply #38 on:** December 11, 2010, 09:16:05 pm

Quote from: Blltrdr on December 11, 2010, 07:13:59 pm

This is a pic of the new Fury kit from Hitchcock's. This is a great representation of the original, especially with the big head.

Now THAT is sharp looking!

Eamon

cyrusb · **Reply #39 on:** December 13, 2010, 05:15:43 pm

Something is not adding up here. It's not a c5 based bike,(looks good , don't it? ) how does it pass the Euro emissions? I thought legacy Bullets were done, big head or not.

Blltrdr · **Reply #40 on:** December 13, 2010, 05:42:30 pm

Quote from: cyrusb on December 13, 2010, 05:15:43 pm

Something is not adding up here. It's not a c5 based bike,(looks good , don't it? ) how does it pass the Euro emissions? I thought legacy Bullets were done, big head or not.

It's a kit.

cyrusb · **Reply #41 on:** December 13, 2010, 05:56:52 pm

It's not what Watsonian is offering as a Fury. They offer a complete bike as mentioned in the original post(and it's still ugly). Any idea what they want for that kit? Probably more than good used bullet.

Blltrdr · **Reply #42 on:** December 13, 2010, 07:27:37 pm

Quote from: cyrusb on December 13, 2010, 05:56:52 pm

It's not what Watsonian is offering as a Fury. They offer a complete bike as mentioned in the original post(and it's still ugly). Any idea what they want for that kit? Probably more than good used bullet.

The Hitchcock's site will have the pricing.

enfield freddy · **Reply #43 on:** December 13, 2010, 07:51:44 pm

Quote from: Blltrdr on December 13, 2010, 07:27:37 pm

The Hitchcock's site will have the pricing.

the bike has nothing to do with hichcocks? , hichcocks DO NOT sell new bikes in the UK , they are only an "indipendant" parts supplier , undoughtedly the largest , however watsonion squires (who are the bikes importers) are another large suplier of parts

The new fury will be distributed by watsonion squires as a full bike ,, not a kit, all UK bike dealers (re) have to buy enfields thru watsonion,

I was discussing the fury with 2 RE dealers in the UK ,, there comments were not good ,,,and they will be "forced" into buying at least one as a demo???

the bike "might" be aimed at the younger end of the market , alas 99.9% of bullet sales are to "born again" brit bike owners in there late 40s to 60s age group

unfortunatly we are seeing a lot of 12m -2 yr old bikes with almost zero milage up for sale . as the 60 yr old suddenly remembers why he sold his "19 bow and arrow" , bsa/triumph etc and bought a car, as he grew up

I do not think the fury will sell , for a youngster , a more reliable jap ,, or even a new triumph , is within £ of the furys price ,,

Blltrdr · **Reply #44 on:** December 13, 2010, 08:35:05 pm

Quote from: enfield freddy on December 13, 2010, 07:51:44 pm

the bike has nothing to do with hichcocks? , hichcocks DO NOT sell new bikes in the UK , they are only an "indipendant" parts supplier , undoughtedly the largest , however watsonion squires (who are the bikes importers) are another large suplier of parts

The new fury will be distributed by watsonion squires as a full bike ,, not a kit, all UK bike dealers (re) have to buy enfields thru watsonion,

I was discussing the fury with 2 RE dealers in the UK ,, there comments were not good ,,,and they will be "forced" into buying at least one as a demo???

the bike "might" be aimed at the younger end of the market , alas 99.9% of bullet sales are to "born again" brit bike owners in there late 40s to 60s age group

unfortunatly we are seeing a lot of 12m -2 yr old bikes with almost zero milage up for sale . as the 60 yr old suddenly remembers why he sold his "19 bow and arrow" , bsa/triumph etc and bought a car, as he grew up

I do not think the fury will sell , for a youngster , a more reliable jap ,, or even a new triumph , is within £ of the furys price ,,

You didn't read the whole post or subsequent posts. Read them and it will make sense.

enfield freddy · **Reply #45 on:** December 13, 2010, 08:39:41 pm

umm , i thought i did ?

the bike is being built/modified by the uk importer for sale in the uk , this bike will never make it to the usa

parts for this bike will not be available to buy from watsonion

just my views , as i live here ,

Blltrdr · **Reply #46 on:** December 13, 2010, 09:42:24 pm

Quote from: enfield freddy on December 13, 2010, 08:39:41 pm

umm , i thought i did ?

the bike is being built/modified by the uk importer for sale in the uk , this bike will never make it to the usa

parts for this bike will not be available to buy from watsonion

just my views , as i live here ,

I made reference earlier in this post to the Fury kit Hitchcock's has for sale and added a pic off their website. So the pricing question was referencing this particular kit and not the Watsonian Fury model.

enfield freddy · **Reply #47 on:** December 13, 2010, 10:03:20 pm

ok , sorry about that !

hichcocks are just using there stock parts ( + the big valve fury head) to sell this "kit"

looks nice , not sure about the 18 in rar rim tho?

3.50-19 - revs per km 482, rolling circ = 2.075m, rolling dia = 660mm

100/90-19 - revs per km 493, rolling circ = 2.02m, rolling dia = 646mm

and a 18 in rim?

100/90-18 - revs per km 516, rolling circ = 2.94m, rolling dia = 608mm

you would either have to rev her hard , or alter the gearing quite a lot

Blltrdr · **Reply #48 on:** December 13, 2010, 10:45:20 pm

Here is a pic of a '61 Fury. Looks like Hitchcock's reproduced the look closely using the Indian frame.

cyrusb · **Reply #49 on:** December 14, 2010, 02:08:52 am

The orig,Fury was nice, I could live with that. What bugs me about the early Brit offroad bikes was the lack of an air filter. ???No wonder they died early.

mrunderhill1975a · **Reply #50 on:** December 14, 2010, 03:43:19 am

I think Hitchocks is still struggling with the shape of the seat. The '58-'60 fury seat was a work of art. It was very curvaceous, like a lady. Notice that it curves up slightly in the front and back. Really flows with the whole line of the tank and up in the back. A real female form. The Hitchock reproduction seat is flat and weak sisterish. We need to work on that seat with a hot knife to sculpt it to the correct shape. Knobby tyres and some black paint on the upper fork would not hurt.

After comparing the '61 fury to the 2010 Indian version, I can see why they chose the new version to have the upswept rear fender, the lines flow a bit better. I still think the new fury in black is something I could purchase, however, the white colour scheme seems out of place. The roundness of the tank is broken by the white "tank mount bolt area". If this area were painted black on the white bike, the female tank form would be emphasized. On both the black and white versions, the rear fender needs more flowing lines to compliment the tank and seat. Just my opinion.

Blltrdr · **Reply #51 on:** December 14, 2010, 04:47:45 am

Quote from: mrunderhill1975a on December 14, 2010, 03:43:19 am

I think Hitchocks is still struggling with the shape of the seat. The '58-'60 fury seat was a work of art. It was very curvaceous, like a lady. Notice that it curves up slightly in the front and back. Really flows with the whole line of the tank and up in the back. A real female form. The Hitchock reproduction seat is flat and weak sisterish. We need to work on that seat with a hot knife to sculpt it to the correct shape. Knobby tyres and some black paint on the upper fork would not hurt.

Good point about the seat. A seat pan could be made to mimic the earlier seat.

Love that tractor tire on the rear of the '61!