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Reply #15 on: October 23, 2010, 06:01:17 pm
r80RT,
Yep, you are a hater.  As am I apparently.  We offer a differing point of view, and despite all statements asserting fair and open discourse, that only applies when one agrees with a liberal (or progressive, or socialist, take your pick) viewpoint.  When you disagree, you are labeled.  That, quite frankly, is OK with me.   I believe what I believe and neither NPR nor MSNBC nor Fox News is making a dent in that.  They all have something to offer, none is without bias.

Car Talk.... I love those guys, but really, check out Terry Gross.  She makes no attempt to hide her liberal sympathies.  There are numerous other examples.

I also realize that I am not about to change any opinions here, people already have an established belief as to the bias of the media (either left or right).  I don't deny the bias from conservative organizations.  It just steams me when liberals make statements with absolute, supreme confidence that their position is the only possible answer.  I would never label Eamon as a "hater" for holding a position different than mine.  It is his right to do so.  It is also my right to respectfully disagree, one would hope without having a label attached to me.
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Reply #16 on: October 23, 2010, 06:14:22 pm
Well, if I'm a hater I'll be one proudly.
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Reply #17 on: October 23, 2010, 06:48:43 pm
Yeah those freakin radicals at Car Talk, they're the most left leaning show about cars out there   - practically a mouth piece for Denocrat Party presidents.   ;)

Just heard them today - click and clack brothers  :D.  Makes my day !  

How about more left leaning programs on WNYC - a New York public radio that broadcasts New Sounds (an in depth program of music from all around the world), Radio Lab, Studio 360, Classical music, BBC News, A Prairie Home Companion and to top it all - Weekend Crossword Puzzle  ;D.  
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Reply #18 on: October 23, 2010, 07:16:56 pm
I'm a hater because I don't agree with NPR news?

I thought it was obvious I was referring to haters of NPR.  There are posts specifically stating hatred and disdain for NPR.   No personal attack intended on you, nor is there one implied.  I guess I should have "NPR haters".  What is offensive about that?  If someone says they hate something, then they are a hater of it.  Lighten up, man!   :)

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Reply #19 on: October 23, 2010, 07:19:59 pm
Just heard them today - click and clack brothers  :D.  Makes my day !  

How about more left leaning programs on WNYC - a New York public radio that broadcasts New Sounds (an in depth program of music from all around the world), Radio Lab, Studio 360, Classical music, BBC News, A Prairie Home Companion and to top it all - Weekend Crossword Puzzle  ;D.  
Sound Check... Wait,Wait...Don't Tell me...Honky Tonkin'...I LOVE NPR!!
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Reply #20 on: October 23, 2010, 07:29:19 pm
r80RT,
Yep, you are a hater.  As am I apparently.  We offer a differing point of view, and despite all statements asserting fair and open discourse, that only applies when one agrees with a liberal (or progressive, or socialist, take your pick) viewpoint.  When you disagree, you are labeled.

Re-read this entire thread and tell me who cast the most labels around.  Hint - it wasn't you or me.

Car Talk.... I love those guys, but really, check out Terry Gross.

Hey, if you can convince them to ditch Terry Gross, no one would be happier than I!  I can't stand her!  I don't don't know about her bias - I just can't stand her interviewing style and the way she insults her guests sometimes.

I would never label Eamon as a "hater" for holding a position different than mine.  It is his right to do so.  It is also my right to respectfully disagree, one would hope without having a label attached to me.
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I didn't label you anything and I'm sorry you took it that way.

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Reply #21 on: October 23, 2010, 07:30:22 pm
Sound Check... Wait,Wait...Don't Tell me...Honky Tonkin'...I LOVE NPR!!

Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is hilarious!

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Reply #22 on: October 23, 2010, 07:46:57 pm
I sent the ombudsman a note as well.  I don't donate when they have fund drives, but my wife always does.  We are both conservative, me fairly rabidly so, my wife more moderate.  I told them that they had received the last penny they ever would from my household.  I listen to NPR because the discussions are intelligent, though I rarely agree with the perspective.  I'll continue to listen but will never again send them money.  I still operate under the "everything I need to know in life I learned from the Godfather" so imagine in the best Marlon Brando you could do...
"Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer"
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Reply #23 on: October 23, 2010, 07:48:32 pm
Re-read this entire thread and tell me who cast the most labels around.  Hint - it wasn't you or me.

Hey, if you can convince them to ditch Terry Gross, no one would be happier than I!  I can't stand her!  I don't don't know about her bias - I just can't stand her interviewing style and the way she insults her guests sometimes.

I didn't label you anything and I'm sorry you took it that way
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Terry Gross is HOT!
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Reply #24 on: October 23, 2010, 07:59:13 pm
Terry Gross is HOT!

I've tried to like her over the years, but I think it was her interview with Lou Reed, Neil Young, and Frank Zappa that turned me off.  I felt she insulted them  ::)  She does get some impressive guests though!

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Reply #25 on: October 23, 2010, 08:17:43 pm
I sent the ombudsman a note as well.  I don't donate when they have fund drives, but my wife always does.  We are both conservative, me fairly rabidly so, my wife more moderate.  I told them that they had received the last penny they ever would from my household.  I listen to NPR because the discussions are intelligent, though I rarely agree with the perspective.  I'll continue to listen but will never again send them money.  I still operate under the "everything I need to know in life I learned from the Godfather" so imagine in the best Marlon Brando you could do...
"Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer"
TFM

Those fund drives don't raise money for NPR - they are for the operation of the local radio station you listen to.  If you are going to stop contributing based on this incident, you might want to send an email to the programming director or station manager at your local station.  They do take listener input seriously, in my experience, and you'll probably get a response.  Just a thought - not trying to talk you out of stopping your contribution.

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Reply #26 on: October 23, 2010, 08:34:32 pm
Those fund drives don't raise money for NPR - they are for the operation of the local radio station you listen to.  If you are going to stop contributing based on this incident, you might want to send an email to the programming director or station manager at your local station.  They do take listener input seriously, in my experience, and you'll probably get a response.  Just a thought - not trying to talk you out of stopping your contribution.

Eamon

Thats sounds an awful lot like what the local Union guys said to me when I quit, "Your screwing the local folk"  Told em I was only 45% screwing em,   since 55% went to AFL-CIO and their crap agenda...  

I have come to the conclusion that any support you give to a philosophy  you don't endorse is a tacit endorsement of it.    Some people don't see it this way but I am of the opinion that every excerpts at least a minimal pressure on society to shape it into what they believe the way things are or should be, even if they do not realize it.  I like to push for should be instead of thinking things are and I have no real say in the matter..


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Reply #27 on: October 23, 2010, 08:55:35 pm
Thats sounds an awful lot like what the local Union guys said to me when I quit, "Your screwing the local folk"  Told em I was only 45% screwing em,   since 55% went to AFL-CIO and their crap agenda...  

Not at all what I'm, saying.  Like I said, I wasn't trying to talk him out of stopping contributing.  I just pointed out the distinction between NPR and the actual radio station.  If he is angry about the content his station carries (and his wife has been contributing), he may want to tell them why he is upset.  Writing to NPR is a perfectly good way to tell NPR how you feel, but it's not the same as expressing your opinion to the actual station on which he hears that content. 

Unrelated to this point, but each station decides how much actual NPR programming they run - some actually do produce huge portions of their programming locally.

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Reply #28 on: October 23, 2010, 09:40:24 pm
I prefer more civilized forms of entertainment, like cage fighting.  In the end, you have a winner and a loser and at least those guys hug it out after the fight.  Think they might be a brighter lot too then those meat heads on the "news" shows.
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Reply #29 on: October 23, 2010, 11:15:33 pm
I've tried to like her over the years, but I think it was her interview with Lou Reed, Neil Young, and Frank Zappa that turned me off.  I felt she insulted them  ::)  She does get some impressive guests though!

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She almost got in a fistfight with Gene Simmons. :D
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