[Sam Simons]

Ah,wait a minnit....Who would those dumfukkers have 'control' the 'Net ??
After all,no one individual does(or can ) do so now......
 Al's too boring.....
 Michelel's ass is too big....
Ted is....too dead.....

Who'll run it??

[stipa]

"How fortunate for leaders that men do not think."
- Adolf Hitler

"When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship."
--Harry S. Truman


I read that bill, (I can't believe I did that), and it seems like a lot of impotent legal-sleaze  gibberish, to create yet another layer of bureaucratic crap to cover tracks and provide some post- Senatorial employment for,,Lieberman and Collins, perhaps?

[oldsalt]

Back when Indy cars had skinny tires I was watching American politics.   I still do.  Never in my wildest dreams [nightmares] did I believe such a bill could ever be drafted.  Incredable!   No one a couple of years ago would have believed it was possible.  Them idiots obviously never read the Constitution.  Remember that NAZI is an acronem for "National Socialest Party".  Now we have a Socialest for a president.  Although after his election it was a sure thing that he would be a one term president I didn't believe he would try to push things that far.  In the history of Congress never has there been a document drefted that was this outragous.  This is deffinately a new low even for the current liberal congress.   

[PaulF]

No doubt, he will be a one-termer. He has nothing to offer to the greater good of the country except grabbing all of your money in taxes, forcing you to buy "health care insurance", siphoning off your freedoms, and now, controlling your thermostat thru cap & trade and nailing you for $6 / gallon gas. Squashing free speach is just another cog in his socialist dream machine.

The thing I worry about is, will the next president and the next congress have the huevos to undo all of this damage? Or, will they too become quickly intoxicated with money and power? 

This is why I support term-limits.

[Anon]

I'll say it again.  All sorts of self serving bull$hit legislation is proposed constantly that never has a chance at becoming law.  This has happened through our entire history.  Worse legislation has been proposed before - this is hardly a new turn of events.  Lieberman is behind this and it has nothing to do with "liberals" or Obama (Obama and Lieberman are not exactly pals either).  Link it to your fantasy Obama socialist nightmare conspiracy theories all you want if it makes you happy.  Me, I'm going to go walk the dog, prepare my bike a for a little rain, and ride to work.  Got real things to worry about and $hit to get done!

Later taters!
Eamon

[PaulF]

There is one leader of the party - Obama.

Have a nice walk, a nice ride and a nice day at work champ.

[Anon]

There is one leader of the party - Obama.

Sure, but this is not a bill Obama or "the party" is pushing.  Lieberman isn't part of the party anymore and I'm not sure why he ever was.  He was the biggest reason I didn't vote for Gore (not that I voted for Bush).  Believe whatever else you want about Obama, but the topic of the original post has nothing to do with him.

Have a nice walk, a nice ride and a nice day at work champ.

Thanks!  Nothing like a little rain in the face to wake you up!   

Eamon

[stipa]

http://news.cnet.com/politics-and-law/

http://cpsr.org/issues/privacy/ecpa86/

http://epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

Anybody see a pattern here?   Gets a bit confusing, doesn't it?

Who do we get to help explain this stuff to us commoners?

a)  Glenn Beck
b) Rachel Maddow
c) Walter Cronkite
d) Glen Fiddich

How fortunate for leaders that men do not think."
- Adolf Hitler
(How fortunate for the world that he was wrong!)

[PaulF]

Leberman called himself and independent to get re-elected. He still caucuses witrh the Democrats and votes their way almost always. Symantics.

And I really love the way that the bill is touted as a precaution against terrorism, since terrorists have foresaken all technology. The US has the capability to track computers and cell phones - so they don't use any. Couriers deliver intel by word-of-mouth or hand-written coded messages. So the gub'ment is preparing for a cyber attack from UBL? Yeah right. China is the biggest offender when it comes to daily attempts to crack Pentagon encryption, and they haven't done it yet. And China is not listed as a state sponsor of terror.

Again, symantics. Call the bill one thing while designing it to do another.

Also, senators won't do anything that makes them look bad, (unless they get caught with their fingers in the, uhh, well, you fill in the blank). In other words, this bill would never even get introduced if Reagan was still in the Oval Office. This bill will at least be debated if not voted on, because I'm sure Lieberman has at least off-the-rocord, tasset support from Obama and his private assurance that he'll sign it into law if passed. If it gives him even more power, why wouldn't he? He couldn't care less of the Constitution or the will of the American people.

[stipa]

You're right!!

[oldsalt]

I'll say it again.  All sorts of self serving bull$hit legislation is proposed constantly that never has a chance at becoming law.  This has happened through our entire history.  Worse legislation has been proposed before - this is hardly a new turn of events.  Lieberman is behind this and it has nothing to do with "liberals" or Obama (Obama and Lieberman are not exactly pals either).  Link it to your fantasy Obama socialist nightmare conspiracy theories all you want if it makes you happy.  Me, I'm going to go walk the dog, prepare my bike a for a little rain, and ride to work.  Got real things to worry about and $hit to get done!

Later taters!
Eamon

Eamon

You are probably right about this proposal being a concept not being pushed by the current administration.  But I also believe that I have license to charge him with anything I can think of to trip him up.  I remember very well the year that Goldwater ran for president.  His catch phrase was "In your heart you know he's right".  The Demo put up billboard ads that said "In your guts you know he's nuts".  Ancient history?  Ya.  But before that I can clearly recall the outragious crap thrown at Eisenhower by the same band of mud throwers.  Great Americans had to be smeared with mud no matter what the truth.  The left has never stopped at anything in all the years I have watched.  In short, It makes little difference, to me, if the charges now being thrown at the left are completely or only partially true or outright fabrications.  It's what the left has done, in spades, for the last half century that I have watched.